Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-10-11 Thread Judith Dinowitz
> 1.) Creating new terrorists, the so called "hearts and minds".  Those > in the region (King of Jordan, Prime Minister of Pakistan) have > explicitly said no.  Not only that, but they've described how the war > has inflamed radical Muslims and that has balloned al Queda > recruitment and created n

Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-10-11 Thread Judith Dinowitz
Gruss, > There's only ever been one reason - US foreign policy that favors one > terrorist over another: The Shah over the clerics; Iraq over Iranian > clerics, Saudi Arabia over Iraq, Israel over Palestine. I think you have a problem with history here. The Jews did not teach the Arabs terrorist

Global Warming or Chicken Little?

2004-10-11 Thread Gruss Gott
Scientists worried by two-year, rapid carbon dioxide rise ALARMING TREND: The findings, which experts have dubbed the `Mauna Loa effect,' are stoking fears of a `runaway greenhouse effect' THE GUARDIAN , LONDON Tuesday, Oct 12, 2004,Page 7 An unexplained and unprecedented rise in carbon dioxide i

Entire Republican Strategy in 2 min

2004-10-11 Thread Gruss Gott
http://www.kontraband.com/show/show.asp?ID=1627 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

Re: George Bush, demonstrating Cognitive Defects ;-)

2004-10-11 Thread Gruss Gott
But as the video points out, it's not just in the debates. The interesting thing to me is that I have lots of relatives in Dallas who have been following Mr. Bush for years.  They've said the same thing starting about a year ago and they are avid Bush supporters. It's actually quite similar to wh

Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-10-11 Thread Gruss Gott
> On Mon, 11 Oct 2004, Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's not true either. The point is that the Jews used terrorism to get what wanted politically - phoning ahead doesn't exactly lessen the death of a hundred people; the Jews certainly didn't hold off because the hotel wasn't evacuate

Bush's telling Non Answer.

2004-10-11 Thread Angel Stewart
http://www.washingtonpost.com /wp-dyn/articles/A23013-2004Oct10.html   *. . . And Bush's Telling Non-Answer* By E. J. Dionne Jr. Monday, October 11, 2004; Page A23 When this campaign is over, Linda Grabel may become famous. Grabel was the citizen-questioner at Friday's debate who asked Preside

RE: Tax and Spend Liberal

2004-10-11 Thread Andy Ousterhout
That's what my mom died of.  Go buy a lottery ticket.  You are very lucky. And we are glad that you were. Andy   -Original Message-   From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:33 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: Tax and Spend Liberal   pulmonary e

Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-10-11 Thread dana tierney
As I said elsewhere, a prudent person would have made sure. But just now I was talking about the situation then, pre-Iraq invasion. As for now...Kerry has been known to admit to being wrong and to take the consequences. Not to be partisan or anything. Dana On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 21:09:46 -0400, Joc

RE: Bush killed superman!

2004-10-11 Thread Jim Davis
Still - I've no problem with a genuinely nice guy suddenly taking on a fever for a cause when that cause hits home. Christopher Reeve, Michael J. Fox, Doug Flutie, etc - they were all active and charitable before - but once something hit home hard they got some passion about it. Jim Davis From:

Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-10-11 Thread Jochem van Dieten
dana tierney wrote: > > As for European volunteers, why not? As I understand the situation > they objected to being expected to follow on faith. A reasoned > rationale might well have met with better success. With 20-20 hindsight: how can a reasoned rationale convince those countries that WMD exi

FW: URGENT - CNN HEADLINE NEWS POLLS EQUAL CUSTODY RIGHTS

2004-10-11 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
Sorry for the all caps subject line. I realize this can be a rather controversial subject, but this is from an organization I trust and respect (not CNN, Florida Dads org). Personally I think we need some serious attention to the state of affairs in Family law in this country (on both sides), so we

Re: George Bush, demonstrating Cognitive Defects ;-)

2004-10-11 Thread Sam Morris
He was fine in the second debate. The excuse I've heard form my buddies over in the Bush camp are: 1. He was emotionally exhausted after spending the day with hurricane survivors. 2. He was shocked by all the lies from Kerry. -sm --- Angel Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If it's true, it

Re: Tax and Spend Liberal

2004-10-11 Thread dana tierney
pulmonary embolism. Known in medical terms as "you were really lucky", "God was on your side" and "you're the miracle patient of the night." As I understand it they don't usually catch these, even in the US. You just die. I am doing really well, as the treatment for this seems to be also wiping

Re: Tax and Spend Liberal

2004-10-11 Thread dana tierney
I think Kerry's plan is irrelevant to my own personal wellbeing, honestly. But I have a unique set of local circumstances. I do know that based on what I saw of OHIP, if I were in Ontario I would be dead; if I were in my former HMO I would be dead. Sorry if that doesn't fit your paradigm. Dana O

Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-10-11 Thread dana tierney
While I am not sure what effect French participation would have had on the rest of the world, I do think that French participation was not in fact out of the question. First, as Jochem says, French is French. Officially, anyway. There is (or was, it's been a while) in fact some prejudice against A

Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-10-11 Thread Sam Morris
That's not true either. The British were in charge of the Mandate for Palestine, which was supposed to allow the Arabs and Jews to live side by side. After awhile, under Arab pressure the British started the White Paper policy which restricting immigration and acquisition of land by Jews, which ca

Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-10-11 Thread dana tierney
So you are saying that Bush shot himself in the foot politically? Hmm, it's an interesting idea. However I am not sure that a) "he would still be abusing his people today" or b) "I don't expect France, Germany or Russia would be volunteering" is correct. Correct me if I am wrong, but while Sadd

Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-10-11 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Larry C. Lyons wrote: > Several things to remember about the region at the time, what we know > now as Israel was set up by UN mandate in 1949 out of British > controlled Palestine. Immediately after the independence mandate took > effect the territory was invaded by what is now Egypt, Jordan, Syri

Re: Tax and Spend Liberal

2004-10-11 Thread Robert Munn
Wall Steet Journal today. My mistake, the figures are combined for John and Theresa Kerry for their released income taxes for 2003. The article was written by  Steven Moore of the Club for Growth, so make what you will of that, but I just checked the figures at www.johnkerry.com and they check out.

Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-10-11 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Larry C. Lyons wrote: > Bu the 1949 border is not defensible - when you can have light > artillery on one part of the border and hit the Mediterranean, and > overrunning the country would take an afternoon, those borders do not > work. I think we are decades away from the moment that any force oth

Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-10-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Bu the 1949 border is not defensible - when you can have light artillery on one part of the border and hit the Mediterranean, and overrunning the country would take an afternoon, those borders do not work. Part of what is necessary is to ensure that an independent Israel is worth more to its neigh

Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-10-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Several things to remember about the region at the time, what we know now as Israel was set up by UN mandate in 1949 out of British controlled Palestine. Immediately after the independence mandate took effect the territory was invaded by what is now Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebannon. Of those natio

Re: Tax and Spend Liberal

2004-10-11 Thread Kevin Graeme
Look up 1991 and 1995. I don't have official records, it's just what the Kerry haters mention. -Kevin On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 17:40:38 -0500, Jim Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You likely > won't find Kerry not giving to charity (or, at least, not claiming it on > his tax return) at any point

Re: Tax and Spend Liberal

2004-10-11 Thread Jim Campbell
http://www.taxhistory.org/thp/thpwebsite.nsf/Web/PresidentialTaxReturns?OpenDocument 2003 - $43,650 2002 - $18,600 2001 - $22,370 2000 - $18,471 1999 - $21,955 It's pretty funny - when he decided to run for President, the charity giving goes up like 300%.  Of course, realistically, you can't run

Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-10-11 Thread Jochem van Dieten
G wrote: > If both sides are terrorists, whom would you prefer the US supported? I am in favour of the one that is going to build a 100 feet wall on top of the 1949 border: two people have to learn to live next to eachother before thay can try to live together. We would still have to figure out

Recognize our Troops over the Holidays

2004-10-11 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Folks, A email exchange I just had reminded me of the importance of letting our troops know how much we appreciate the sacrifices they are making.  While we disagree on many points, I think it is safe to say that we all support the troops as individuals making a sacrifice for us. I am asking every

Re: Tax and Spend Liberal

2004-10-11 Thread Gruss Gott
> On Mon, 11 Oct 2004, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am going to be better off when John Kerry raises my taxes? That's just plain silly. I agreed with most of what you said except this - in concept.  In 1993 when President Clinton raised top bracket rates from ~31% to ~39% supply sid

RE: Tax and Spend Liberal

2004-10-11 Thread Andy Ousterhout
I don't remember him making that much.  But I do remember him not consistently tithing either.  Perhaps it was 2002 that he gave zip to charity. Andy   -Original Message-   From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 3:01 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: R

Re: Tax and Spend Liberal

2004-10-11 Thread Jim Campbell
I'm looking at his tax return I linked to in my previous email...  (PDF Page 4) Schedule A line 15 - $43,650, then PDF page 25 where he lists $18,650 as "Miscellaneous", $15,000 for NE Shelter for Homeless Veterans and $10,000 for Liberty House.  I don't know what the "Miscellaneous" charities

RE: Tax and Spend Liberal

2004-10-11 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Where did you get those numbers?  I remember Kerry giving $0 to charity.   -Original Message-   From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 2:42 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: Tax and Spend Liberal   >Speaking of taxes, have you seen the Kerry's late

Re: Tax and Spend Liberal

2004-10-11 Thread Jim Campbell
>Speaking of taxes, have you seen the Kerry's latest returns, (he ones they have released, anyway)? He paid around $870K or so on $6.8 million in wages- an effective tax rate of 12.8%. I thought rich guys had to pay more in taxes? Isn't that Kerry's whole stance? > >   > Where did you get those nu

Re: Tax and Spend Liberal

2004-10-11 Thread Robert Munn
>I think you're a bit mistaken about what helps the economy.  Government >spending helps the economy more than cutting taxes.  It's a staple of >economic theory that the velocity of a dollar (the speed with which it moves >from entity to entity) is much greater when it comes from the government, >b

NY Sports

2004-10-11 Thread Won Lee
> >-- > >Top >Reply >10/11/2004 12:53 PM >Author: Won Lee >Short Link: >http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=m:4:35925:181188 > >What a great time for sports in NY. > >We have another fall classic.  The valiant and pure of heart Yankees defend >everything that is good about baseb

Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-10-11 Thread G
Are Americans the early front runners in the 21st century? Some people sure seem to think so.   - Original Message -   From: Gruss Gott   To: CF-Community   Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 2:07 PM   Subject: Re: The politicization of the Iraq War      Unfortunately the Palestinians

Fwd: ebags

2004-10-11 Thread Won Lee
>Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:13:11 -0400 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: Won Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: ebags > >I know ebags.com is written in CF but I'm having major problems with their >site and their customer support people.  First of all the website didn't >calculate my shipping correctly

Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-10-11 Thread Gruss Gott
Hi Larry, Great clarifications, and clearly I'm no expert.  However, I think the basic points apply.  You're also right about Palestine being a British protectorate, although it was still effectively it's own country. Unfortunately the Palestinians have been called "the worst led people of the 20

Re: Bush killed superman!

2004-10-11 Thread Bill Wheatley
Yea but he didn't champion paralysis research until he became paralyzed. So it couldn't be completely selfless in that respect. Though some of the things i read about him before his accident he did use his wealth to try and help real charaties which is nice. Please no flames ;) We're only human a

Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-10-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Gus, The Israelis did not start a terrorist campaign to get independence. The British had already announced that they were turning over Palestine to the UN for resolution well before the formation of the Stern Gang or Irgun. The campaign waged by those two groups (the Stern Gang's leadership inclu

RE: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-10-11 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Interesting.   An excellent example of the law of unintended consequences.   -Original Message-   From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]        The problem started with implicit US support of the jewish terrorist   organization, The Irgun.  After WWII, Britian was put in charge of   Pa

Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-10-11 Thread G
If both sides are terrorists, whom would you prefer the US supported?   - Original Message -   From: Gruss Gott   To: CF-Community   Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 1:20 PM   Subject: Re: The politicization of the Iraq War   On Mon, 11 Oct 2004, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   > I get the

Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-10-11 Thread Gruss Gott
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I get the feeling that if the current excuse was removed, another would take its' place. There's only ever been one reason - US foreign policy that favors one terrorist over another: The Shah over the clerics; Iraq over Iranian clerics, Saudi Ara

Desperate Hubby

2004-10-11 Thread G
If yer marriage is failing, i wouldn't suggest this approach: http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/10/11/ok.staged.robbery.reut/index.html [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

killing acrobat process

2004-10-11 Thread Charlie Griefer
Sorry for the techie question...not CF related so posting here instead of cf-talk :) I have a link to a pdf document on the server.  it's a document that can be typed into and printed out by our users (this is Intranet). Problem is that when the browser window is closed, the Acrobat process is st

Re: [Gaming] Renting server space

2004-10-11 Thread Paul Ihrig
yep! thats why it is usually some web guy at a job where he/she has a test server... [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

FW: Bush's Debate #1 Flop Performance Probably Explained

2004-10-11 Thread Ian Skinner
Provided without comment at this time. Bush's mystery bulge The rumor is flying around the globe. Was the president wired during the first debate? -Oct. 8, 2004  |  Was President Bush literally channeling Karl Rove in his first debate with John Kerry? That's the latest rumor flooding the Internet

Re: [Gaming] Renting server space

2004-10-11 Thread Won Lee
At 11:15 10/11/2004 -0500, you wrote: >The $2/month figure is based on the hosted service link that Paul >provided and similar hosting services I've seen. If you were to divide >up the hosting costs to the players, that's about what it would cost. >But while I know a lot of gamers, I can't think of

Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-10-11 Thread G
If the US suddenly withdrew all support for Israel, do you think Arab opinions of the US would suddenly reverse? Likewise, if Israel pulled out completely from all of the disputed territories, do you think Arab nations would suddenly support an Israeli state? I'm of the opinion that decades of ent

Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-10-11 Thread Sam Morris
My point is the poll in 2001 was the same. Nothing has changed. Maybe a point or two. We still support Israel and they don't like us, at least according to your poll. -sm --- "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Pew Charitable Trust surveys come on a regular > basis. They survey > i

Re: [Gaming] Renting server space

2004-10-11 Thread Kevin Graeme
The $2/month figure is based on the hosted service link that Paul provided and similar hosting services I've seen. If you were to divide up the hosting costs to the players, that's about what it would cost. But while I know a lot of gamers, I can't think of any that I know firsthand that play using

Re: [Gaming] Renting server space

2004-10-11 Thread Won Lee
At 09:56 10/11/2004 -0500, you wrote: >There's a huge amount of demand considering most games are coming out >with an online component, but most gamers I know are split on the >value of paying an additional monthly fee for server access. They >already pump money into buying games, upgrading their r

Re: Bush killed superman!

2004-10-11 Thread Jim Campbell
I keep thinking there's some joke in here about Kryptonite or kneeling before Zod, but I don't feel particularly snarky about this.  From the report I read, it sounded like a standard pressure wound infection just went out of control became ultimately fatal.  It's tragic, really, especially for

Re: Bush killed superman!

2004-10-11 Thread Gruss Gott
> On Mon, 11 Oct 2004, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My first movie experience that i can recall was watching Superman...i > absolutely loved those first two movies. >   >  Feel like yet another part of my childhood has passed away... Same thing here.  Rest in peace Mr. Reeves ... [Todays Threa

Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-10-11 Thread Gruss Gott
> On Mon, 11 Oct 2004, Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >  Count inflation, weak dollar etc. and I think it is not that bad. Unless > you pay in dollars and own a SUV of course. This is disturbing for me because I'd like to upgrade my car from a v6 to a v8, but my wife is questioning m

Re: Bush killed superman!

2004-10-11 Thread G
My first movie experience that i can recall was watching Superman...i absolutely loved those first two movies. Feel like yet another part of my childhood has passed away...   - Original Message -   From: Erika L. Walker-Arnold   To: CF-Community   Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 10:03 A

RE: Bush killed superman!

2004-10-11 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
That seriously sucks :( :( :( /me cries -- >>| -Original Message- >>| From: Marlon Moyer >>| >>| It's ironic how he was mentioned in the debate on Friday >>| only to pass away on Sunday. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription]

RE: Bush killed superman!

2004-10-11 Thread Angel Stewart
There's supposed tobe a 'curse' of Superman that affects any of the actors who have played Superman in the movies. -Gel -Original Message- From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Okay not really, but I'm wondering how the dem's will this or maybe they'll be tactful enough not to

Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-10-11 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Gruss Gott wrote: > > Are we better off for invading Iraq?  I think by my key factors we're > not: > > 1.) Creating new terrorists, the so called "hearts and minds". I'm afraid I have to agree with you. I do not feel the invasion of Iraq made the world a safer place. Afghanistan perhaps, but not I

Re: [Gaming] Renting server space

2004-10-11 Thread Kevin Graeme
There's a huge amount of demand considering most games are coming out with an online component, but most gamers I know are split on the value of paying an additional monthly fee for server access. They already pump money into buying games, upgrading their rigs, and paying for high-speed bandwidth.

Bush killed superman!

2004-10-11 Thread Marlon Moyer
Okay not really, but I'm wondering how the dem's will this or maybe they'll be tactful enough not to use the stem cell research connection. It's ironic how he was mentioned in the debate on Friday only to pass away on Sunday. -- Marlon [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast

Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-10-11 Thread Gruss Gott
> On Mon, 11 Oct 2004, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Pew Charitable Trust surveys come on a regular basis. These numbers agree with Polls by the Economist amongst other sources. This compares to about 53% after the Afghanistan invasion.  The core question, however, is: Are we b

Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-10-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
The Pew Charitable Trust surveys come on a regular basis. They survey international opinions of the US by people in the Middle East, Europe, Africa,Latin American and Asia. The last one put the negative impression of America by Arabs, at over 90%. This was last March. According to recent polls that

Re: [Gaming] Renting server space

2004-10-11 Thread Paul Ihrig
well with my group there is a large demand. i ran several free servers when i had the resources. so any one that has a gaming group either needs a corporate geek that has access to a fast connection & the ability to have any junky box connected to it. or they purchase a plan like :: http://www.vs

Re: [Gaming] Renting server space

2004-10-11 Thread Won Lee
At 09:33 10/11/2004 -0400, you wrote: >yep... >o well.. >we found a few but they are pretty steep. > >some one offerd me space befor on the list. >but i forget who & i didnt take them up ion the offer. >think they a offline now. > >worth a shot. >thanks again >-paul Paul, Out of curiosity, how mu

Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-10-11 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Andy Ousterhout wrote: > > Thanks  for your response.  I was not aware of the German and other EU > country troop movement. The units moved to Turkey where joint German/Dutch units (our last mechanised army unit was joined with a German unit to create a larger unit a few years ago). Wholely financ

RE: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-10-11 Thread Jim Davis
I'm not sure about the folks at al-Muthanna but it seems to me that there must be some way to live between blind obedience to all that your government says and does and blind hatred of your country. There is a strong and persistent inference coming from certain factions that a willingness to criti

Re: [Gaming] Renting server space

2004-10-11 Thread Paul Ihrig
yep... o well.. we found a few but they are pretty steep. some one offerd me space befor on the list. but i forget who & i didnt take them up ion the offer. think they a offline now. worth a shot. thanks again -paul [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User

Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-10-11 Thread Kevin Graeme
Andy, you do know that Germany supported the Gulf War financially and France had 11,000 troops on the ground? Shortly after 9/11, Germany pledged 3,900 troops to the war on terror and they've been supporting in Afghanistan and even had troops in Kuwait prior to the second Iraq war. France has tens

Re: George Bush, demonstrating Cognitive Defects ;-)

2004-10-11 Thread Marlon Moyer
To be fair, he was reading from a teleprompter 10 years ago.  In the debate he was having to rely on his own words.  Either that, or there was crosstalk coming through his wire :) Marlon On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 09:26:16 -0400, Angel Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If it's true, it's quite scary.

George Bush, demonstrating Cognitive Defects ;-)

2004-10-11 Thread Angel Stewart
If it's true, it's quite scary. If not, it's amusing :) http://home.comcast.net/~blogitics/BushTenYrs4MB.mov -Gel [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

Re: [Gaming] Renting server space

2004-10-11 Thread Kevin Graeme
Sorry. I know you've asked a couple times before too, but the only guys I know who run game servers cheap work at universities or ISPs and can "sneak" them onto the network. -Kevin On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 08:03:51 -0400, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > so now one knows a good place to rent a

Re: Bush, Kerry and non-admittance

2004-10-11 Thread Isaac Dealey
Andy Osterhout said: >Howie, >How do you know?  What is your source?  And how did you make the leap to >Watergate?  It actually has no relevance to Sam's email.  And nowhere is >criminal activity mentioned.  But now that you bring it up... Assault? ... to quote the article: "For example, at th

Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-10-11 Thread G
Wow, this has opened my eyes: Everything America does is evil. I will start blindly hating Americans too. This should allow me to post vacuous "factoids" like this one.   - Original Message -   From: Jochem van Dieten   To: CF-Community   Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 11:08 AM   Sub

RE: The Election and The Economy

2004-10-11 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Sam, I've never heard that Woodward makes up quotes.  However, it seems to me that many will trim quotes to extract what they thought was said or meant.  The result in many cases is not an accurate representation of what was meant.  So many people choose not to limit conversations with the Press.

RE: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-10-11 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Jochem, Thanks  for your response.  I was not aware of the German and other EU country troop movement.  Your perspective on France was very interesting.  And I whole agree with your closing statement on that the post war plan was poor.  Part of the planning failure was probably lack of a backup pl

RE: [Gaming] Renting server space

2004-10-11 Thread Angel Stewart
Nope :( Only thing I have heard of is Atari themselves having servers for UT2004 for rent. -Gel -Original Message- From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] so now one knows a good place to rent a server to run a game... o well. thanks -paul [Todays Threads] [This Message] [

Re: Tax and Spend Liberal

2004-10-11 Thread Deanna Schneider
Eek. What happened? Glad you're doing okay, at least. > By the way, I just spent a week and the annual economy of of a > third-world nation in a hospital. Fortunately I had really good > arrangements in place and personally am only out my Rx deductibles but > how many of you could say the same? Ei

Re: [Gaming] Renting server space

2004-10-11 Thread Paul Ihrig
so now one knows a good place to rent a server to run a game... o well. thanks -paul [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-10-11 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Andy Ousterhout wrote: > I think that it is naive to think that Germany or France would/could have > ever supported an invasion.  Under any circumstances.  Germany because of > it's post WW1/WWII anti-war culture That would probably prevent Germany from political support and participation. But the

Re: XP Media Center news

2004-10-11 Thread Bill Wheatley
ahh sounds spiffy On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 21:26:15 -0500, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Media Center Edition > > It's lets you watch TV, record TV, listen to music, play video files, > etc all with a very nice interface. It's MS's well designed home > theater PC. It's possible to do all th