Re: Meriweather doing it right, Harrison whining like a little girl

2010-10-21 Thread Medic
Harrison whining like a little girl You know little boys whine just as much as little girls right? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion

RE: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sisk, Kris
Umit's video chat...It's nothing new. My family's been doing it with their laptops and MSN Messenger for years. The only difference here is that one end is a cell phone, which is kinda meh in my opinion, especially since there are MSN and Skype clients for phones already. Apple's catching up

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Ras Tafari
keep livin the dream amigo... someday you will see... listen, i dont like jobs, or apple for any other reason than the computing equipment ive gotten from them has PROVEN beyond a shadow of a doubt, that they've figured something out... something that left me frustrated, and bored for 14 years of

RE: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sisk, Kris
Vim's good for that but it's got a brutal learning curve. I used to use it for my config files on Linux, but it was overkill so I switched to nano and forgot how to use vim :(. -Original Message- From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 20,

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: Umit's video chat...It's nothing new. My family's been doing it with their laptops and MSN Messenger for years. The only difference here is that one end is a cell phone, which is kinda meh in my opinion, especially

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
Don't all computers have a hibernate option? On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Ras Tafari rastaf...@gmail.com wrote: when you open your laptop up, and waiit, ill be whizzing by on my beautiful little metal creation, typing away whilst you wait for yours to come up to the

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Ras Tafari rastaf...@gmail.com wrote: a year ago, and now im wholly out of the office suite, a pc, and slow loading frustration! DUDE!! Ridding myself of Office is one of the most wonderful things that's ever happened to me! I haven't used Outlook in years,

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Don't all computers have a hibernate option? On both my XP laptop and my Vista Desktop, putting the computer to sleep is the single fastest way to see the BSOD. -Cameron ...

Adobe MAX?

2010-10-21 Thread Cameron Childress
I get there on Saturday. Who else is going? Anyone? -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive:

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Ray Champagne
Apple buys Facebook, integrates Facetime with it. Every FB user would have an iTunes account http://blogs.forbes.com/briancaulfield/2010/10/18/heres-a-thought-apple-could-buy-facebook/ On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: I see alot of people looking at this from a very small, personal, individualized, I'm an Apple hater point of view. We're not small picture Apple haters, we just don't understand you tiny view Apple worshipers. As

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
Sucks to be you. Methinks you were doing something wrong. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Don't all computers have a hibernate option? On both my XP laptop and my Vista Desktop,

RE: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sisk, Kris
I'll put my Debian laptop up against your MBP for speed any time :P As for ease of use...meh. I'm a Debian user. Debian's good for people who want to have control over every little detail of the system setup. You really can't have that kind of control over the system and user friendliness in the

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Casey Dougall
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: That's the weird thing, iTunes has always sucked yet the lemmings can't wait to overspend money on it. That's some powerful marketing. Music is normally cheaper for the mainstream shit you find on iTunes, I spend on average

RE: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sisk, Kris
I see alot of people looking at this from a very small, personal, individualized, I'm an Apple hater point of view. I admit I'm an Apple hater. Their products are overhyped, overpriced, and no better than what I use. Actually, in my opinion, OSX is a hell of a lot more painful to use than Linux

Re: Adobe MAX?

2010-10-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Not this year. With CFUnited now dead I may attend Max next year. larry On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: I get there on Saturday.  Who else is going?  Anyone? -Cameron ...

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Ras Tafari
well for your genre, id wholly assume that you could do better than itunes. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Casey Dougall ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: That's the weird thing, iTunes has always sucked yet the lemmings

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Ras Tafari
you are forgetting that most of us tiny view mac worshippers started as -in your thinking- big view microshit worshippers. i drank the blue koolaid of windows for long enough... i decided to OPEN MY MIND that MAYBE there was something better out there... gave it a shot, and there's no single

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Ras Tafari
it was this that was the final straw on my pc. i no longer have to wait for more than 2 seconds before im back up and working on my mbpro. ill challenge ANYONE, besides Kris, who is truly unto his own in console land ;) but thats ok, i get those people too. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:57 AM,

Re: Adobe MAX?

2010-10-21 Thread Ras Tafari
drink a few for me cc On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: I get there on Saturday.  Who else is going?  Anyone? -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Sucks to be you. Methinks you were doing something wrong. Yeah, installing Vista. -Cameron ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: I see alot of people looking at this from a very small, personal, individualized, I'm an Apple hater point of view. We're not small picture

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Ras Tafari
like ive said. maybe someday you all will see. its not so much about being an apple hater and feeding into that dogma, or defending it... i know where im at in my programming life and i know what i needed, and that was a change towards more productivity and an overall desire to be on a

Re: Adobe MAX?

2010-10-21 Thread Scott Stewart
and you're not coming to my HTML 5 Lab on Sunday??? On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: I get there on Saturday.  Who else is going?  Anyone? -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Casey Dougall
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Ras Tafari rastaf...@gmail.com wrote: well for your genre, id wholly assume that you could do better than itunes. iTunes did come in on a pinch when I needed a bunch of tunes for a wedding. Outside of that, yeah totally.

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
I bought a video and it ended up being like 2 x 3 and low res. I was pissed. As for music, I'm old, I don't buy songs, I buy cds. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Casey Dougall ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: That's

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
Back in the mid 90's I had to use Macs at Time Warner. It was the same kind of worshiping back then. I couldn't wait to get home and get real work done. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Ras Tafari rastaf...@gmail.com wrote: you are forgetting that most of us tiny view mac worshippers started

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I bought a video and it ended up being like 2 x 3 and low res. I was pissed. As for music, I'm old, I don't buy songs, I buy cds. I have ~150 old CDs in the back of a storage unit somewhere. Want em? -Cameron ...

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: Apple TV isn't widespread enough to help Facetime. I could see Facetime helping make Apple TV something you can talk about without causing people to ask what it is, but not the other way around. I will make another

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
I respect the power of marketing and the way they use it. Just don't mock me for not falling for it. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:  On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Cameron

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
That's awesome and I'm glad you and many others found what works for them. Now please respect my decision to make a different choice. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Ras Tafari rastaf...@gmail.com wrote: like ive said. maybe someday you all will see.  its not so much about being an apple

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread G Money
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote: I have ~150 old CDs in the back of a storage unit somewhere. Want em? I'll take 'em, unless your taste in music sucks.who we talking about here?

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Ray Champagne
So you're going off experiences that you had 15 years ago? On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Back in the mid 90's I had to use Macs at Time Warner. It was the same kind of worshiping back then. I couldn't wait to get home and get real work done. On Thu, Oct

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Its just one more thing that can break. Installing PHP is very easy, just download the dmg file and run it. AS for CF etc, I use the war file versions of CF, Railo and Open BlueDragon, using Mod_ajp as the connector and JBoss as the app server. The entire setup took about 20 minutes to install,

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
If it's Coldplay and Timberlake then no. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I bought a video and it ended up being like 2 x 3 and low res. I was pissed. As for music, I'm old, I

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Ray Champagne
My problem with the Apple haters is that they have to whirl insults around when someone says that they like Apple. And most of them haven't even tried the product, or tried it umpteen-odd years ago and are going off bad info. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
No, I'm saying the Mac user attitude hasn't changed one bit in 15 years. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Ray Champagne r...@raychampagne.com wrote: So you're going off experiences that you had 15 years ago? ~| Order the

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Back in the mid 90's I had to use Macs at Time Warner. It was the same kind of worshiping back then. I couldn't wait to get home and get real work done. OS 7.6 timeframe? I was totally a 100% PC guy then and Mac/PC couldn't

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
Wow I'm flashing back to Web TV days? On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: Apple TV isn't widespread enough to help Facetime. I could see Facetime helping make Apple TV

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Ras Tafari rastaf...@gmail.com wrote: it was this that was the final straw on my pc. i no longer have to wait for more than 2 seconds before im back up and working on my mbpro. ill challenge ANYONE, besides Kris, who is truly unto his own in console land

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
Challenge Kris to an HD video editing contest with you mbp against his Debian laptop :) On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Ras Tafari rastaf...@gmail.com wrote: it was this that was the final straw on my pc. i no longer have to wait

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:49 AM, G Money gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: I'll take 'em, unless your taste in music sucks.who we talking about here? Really, I haven't been to the storage unit in a couple of years. Haven't bought a CD in probably 10-12 years. Mostly stuff from the 90s. Alot

Re: Adobe MAX?

2010-10-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Scott Stewart webmas...@sstwebworks.comwrote: and you're not coming to my HTML 5 Lab on Sunday??? Wait - there are sessions at MAX? No, I may peek in on a few things but I go to meet the peeps and talk shop. It's rare that I can stand sitting through a

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
People don't say they like Apple, they say their world is now complete and until everyone else switches over they are losers. I have used Macs recently and it doesn't excite me. Same with using Linux. But the attitude that if you aren't using an Apple you're life sucks has not changed in all

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread G Money
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote: Really, I haven't been to the storage unit in a couple of years. Haven't bought a CD in probably 10-12 years. Mostly stuff from the 90s. Alot of stuff from my college days (mid 90s). Alot of the stuff the defined

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Jerry Johnson
That's because only girls and sissies use Macs. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Ray Champagne r...@raychampagne.comwrote: My problem with the Apple haters is that they have to whirl insults around when someone says that they like Apple. And most of them haven't even tried the product,

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
just checked my uptime on my mbp. It's been up 17 days -- that's with my moving it between work and home. It's put to sleep at least 3 times a day. My wife's Thinkpad will start acting wonky after 1 or two sleeps. My standard answer of reboot always corrects the problem. On Oct 21,

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Ras Tafari
ill respect your decision to live in the dark ages where computing sucks. that is wholly yours to make ;) On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: That's awesome and I'm glad you and many others found what works for them. Now please respect my decision to make a

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
If I was doing a lot of video editing I would get a Mac. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com wrote: Challenge Kris to an HD video editing contest with you mbp against his Debian laptop :)

RE: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sisk, Kris
I borrowed my sister's iPod for a trip last year while my MP3 player was missing (in the bottom of a toybox...go figure) and I have a Mac Mini sitting on my desk that I use for testing websites. I don't like either. The iPod wasn't bad, but it cost 4 times as much as my MP3 player that has more

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: I will make another prediction.  In 12 months we will be discussing Google vs Apple vs Vendor X in a huge battle over set top boxes. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Wow I'm

RE: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sisk, Kris
Give me a few months to learn to use KDenLive and I might take that challenge :) -Original Message- From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:57 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Facetime for Mac... Challenge Kris to an HD video

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:00 AM, G Money gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: Ok soI'll take 'em! Next time I'm out there I will dig out that box. May be awhile. I've already ripped them all to MP3 and haven't even looked at the CDs in years... -Cameron ...

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Ras Tafari
there you go kris, lets go! On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com wrote: Challenge Kris to an HD video editing contest with you mbp against his Debian laptop :) On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:31

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com wrote: Challenge Kris to an HD video editing contest with you mbp against his Debian laptop :) I'll challenge Kris to a game of I don't care what you prefer on your laptop and wasn't questioning your selection of

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
My Toshiba goes months without a reboot and 5 or 6 sleeps a day. And I leave about ten apps running. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com wrote: just checked my uptime on my mbp.  It's been up 17 days -- that's with my moving it between work and

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
I wasn't saying it's not coming, just saying I was having flashbacks. 1995 I think. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: I will make another prediction.  In 12 months we

Need a new laptop

2010-10-21 Thread Vivec
Ok, I cannot ignore it anymore. I need a new Laptop :( My old one has kicked the bucket, and not having a laptop is making meeting clients difficult. I was thinking of a small one, a 14 or so. But I realise that the power in those just isn't there. I usually keep my laptops for 4 or 5

Re: Need a new laptop

2010-10-21 Thread G Money
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I cannot ignore it anymore. I need a new Laptop :( My old one has kicked the bucket, and not having a laptop is making meeting clients difficult. I was thinking of a small one, a 14 or so. But I realise that the power

Re: Need a new laptop

2010-10-21 Thread Ras Tafari
mbpro 15 no question gel. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I cannot ignore it anymore. I need a new Laptop :( My old one has kicked the bucket, and not having a laptop is making meeting clients difficult. I was thinking of a small one, a 14 or so. But

RE: Need a new laptop

2010-10-21 Thread Sisk, Kris
I'm partial to Toshibas. They're generally well built machines and they look nice. -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 10:26 AM To: cf-community Subject: Need a new laptop Ok, I cannot ignore it anymore. I need a new Laptop :(

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
Thanks, that's all I needed to hear. I would hate to think I kept you up nights worrying about my seeing the light. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Ras Tafari rastaf...@gmail.com wrote: ill respect your decision to live in the dark ages where computing sucks. that is wholly yours to make

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Ras Tafari
it's ok, ill forget this conversation anyway later tonight :) On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, that's all I needed to hear. I would hate to think I kept you up nights worrying about my seeing the light. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Ras Tafari

Re: Need a new laptop

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
Sounds like the ThinkPad needs lot's of reboots. Maybe skip that. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I cannot ignore it anymore. I need a new Laptop :( My old one has kicked the bucket, and not having a laptop is making meeting clients difficult. I was

RE: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sisk, Kris
I really don't care what you run. I'm sorry if you got the impression that I do. Like I said earlier today, to each his own. No OS is or ever will be right for everyone. That said, my OS is better than yours. :P (That was a joke, not to be taken seriously) -Original Message- From:

Re: Need a new laptop

2010-10-21 Thread Jerry Johnson
I hate to say it, but so often developer contractors are judged by the bling of their laptops. Functional is less desirable than shiny for many paying clients. They want YOU to have the gear THEY want. On my budget, that means that big and clunky and functional and cheap went by the wayside,

Re: Need a new laptop

2010-10-21 Thread Ray Champagne
That is something we can agree on. ThinkPads have been the go-to machine for years for my department here. The past two years have really seen a decline in performance, quality, and are just a general headache. Our IT team is about 40ish people, we have the IBM tech in our building at least

RE: Need a new laptop

2010-10-21 Thread Sisk, Kris
+1 At work we have only IBMs in the server room and only Lenovos and old IBMs from before they sold their PC business everywhere else. I'm less than I used to think they made decent machines till I worked here for a while. After seeing up close and personal on a large scale how often they have

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
I liked the way you could color folders. Back then they had a way superior chip, then they converted to that dreaded inferior chip and ended up being so much better. Just saying. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:43 AM,

Re: Need a new laptop

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
ThinkPads were awesome before IBM sold them. Now they're junk. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Ray Champagne r...@raychampagne.com wrote: That is something we can agree on.  ThinkPads have been the go-to machine for years for my department here.  The past two years have really seen a

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Scott Stroz
If you use ColdFusion Builder, or anything Eclipse based, you may need to switch your OS in the future. http://www.dcooper.org/blog/client/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=CEB13E9F-4E22-1671-5BE18C1A5FEA83CC On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Ras Tafari rastaf...@gmail.com wrote: like ive said.

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Scott Stroz
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Ras Tafari rastaf...@gmail.com wrote: ill respect your decision to live in the dark ages where computing sucks. that is wholly yours to make ;) I have a MBP and I love it. In my opinion, I think the hardware is better than any other laptop I have owned,

RE: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sisk, Kris
Ok...that leaves me scratching my head. Why in the world would you kick something as widely used as Java off your platform? -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 10:50 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Facetime for Mac... If

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
or just use OpenJDK. On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:50 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: If you use ColdFusion Builder, or anything Eclipse based, you may need to switch your OS in the future. http://www.dcooper.org/blog/client/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=CEB13E9F-4E22-1671-5BE18C1A5FEA83CC On Thu, Oct

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Scott Stroz
To be fair, it does seem to say that they version of Java they 'supply' will no longer be supported. Its possible they will then allow third party implementations to be installed (something you cannot do now) On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: Ok...that

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Ras Tafari
yeah, that's entirely odd. wtf On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: Ok...that leaves me scratching my head. Why in the world would you kick something as widely used as Java off your platform? -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz

RE: Need a new laptop

2010-10-21 Thread Sisk, Kris
They were junk before. Trust me. I've got two IBM thinkpads within reach without moving right now. Back when I was in a school rather than the district office building I had 24 of the things that I carted around to classrooms. They were junk before Lenovo got to put their name on them.

Animation showing relationship between Education and Economy.

2010-10-21 Thread Vivec
Very interesting animation showing how Education feeds back into the Economy. The video below, though, argues that our whole concept of education discourages “divergent thinking,” the dynamic cognition that leads to innovation and change. Watch the video in which Ken Robinson discusses this

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
I'm flashing back to 1995 again when all the Apple users would crowd around my desk to see what this Java thingy buzz was all about :) On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: If you use ColdFusion Builder, or anything Eclipse based, you may need to switch your

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Vivec
The Macs are going to become part of the Walled Garden ecosystem. That means that Flash and Java may come in the crosshairs for removal, since they will allow customers to go outside this garden to get software. Apple is implementing the same App Stores etc. for the iPad and iPhone on the next

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Vivec
Facetime for MAC = Apple Video Conferencing tool. We've already had it for years in the form of Skype and several other similar applications. Facetime now has the marketing might of Apple behind it, but it's not a new application by any means. THis is what Apple does, and I must say it irks me

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: Facetime for MAC = Apple Video Conferencing tool. We've already had it for years in the form of Skype and several other similar applications. I'm not sure this is true, really. You can open the desktop version of Facetime,

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
Cameron has been the first victim of my random drive by facetime callling! muhwahaha On Oct 21, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: Facetime for MAC = Apple Video Conferencing tool. We've already had it for years

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
btw, nice to meet you Cameron ;) On Oct 21, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: Facetime for MAC = Apple Video Conferencing tool. We've already had it for years in the form of Skype and several other similar

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Vivec
To backup my theory on where Apple is heading with the Mac platform: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/10/macbook-air-3/ Flash does not come preloaded on the new Mac AIR laptops. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
now that I think about it, that really was seamless. I added Cameron's email address to my contact list. Then went back to face time. Clicked his name and it called him at his desk. Really, it can't get much easier than that. On Oct 21, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: On

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com wrote: now that I think about it, that really was seamless.  I added Cameron's email address to my contact list.  Then went back to face time.  Clicked his name and it called him at his desk. Really, it can't

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
does that mean he had facetime running and registered to that email? Sounds like Skype, except for the phone part. Although the droid adds all your facebook phone numbers and emails into you contact list, pretty annoying actually. Now my wife needs a way to filter them out. On Thu, Oct 21,

RE: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Eric Roberts
Actually...iTunes is not an original. Rhapsody and Yahoo music were around long before iTunes. While those weren't tied to a specific MP3 player, you could still do the dame thing with existing MP3 players. I had a subscription to Rhapsody when it was part of Yahoo and that was one of the

RE: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Eric Roberts
Oh please... -Original Message- From: Ras Tafari [mailto:rastaf...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 10:30 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Facetime for Mac... you are forgetting that most of us tiny view mac worshippers started as -in your thinking- big view microshit

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: does that mean he had facetime running and registered to that email? Actually, I didn't have Facetime running when he called. Must listen in the background (insert conspiracy theory here). I have registered both my email addys

RE: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sisk, Kris
I stand corrected then. -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 12:40 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Facetime for Mac... Actually...iTunes is not an original. Rhapsody and Yahoo music were around long before

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
But you trust facetime? On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah I don't allow facebook into anything of mine, just for general sanity (and privacy) reasons. ~| Order the Adobe

RE: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Eric Roberts
I did a contract last summer where I had to use a Mac...it was the worse computing experience I ever had. Eric -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:r...@raychampagne.com] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 10:49 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Facetime for Mac... So you're

RE: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Eric Roberts
I'll put my desktop up against it any day... -Original Message- From: Ras Tafari [mailto:rastaf...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:03 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Facetime for Mac... ill respect your decision to live in the dark ages where computing sucks. that is

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
That doesn't really sound seamless at all. Did you jailbreak your phone and add that fake 3g program so you can use it without wifi? Did you also bump up your plan? On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com wrote: now that I think about it, that really

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Ras Tafari
cool. that's awesome, for YOU. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: I did a contract last summer where I had to use a Mac...it was the worse computing experience I ever had. Eric

RE: Need a new laptop

2010-10-21 Thread Eric Roberts
I think it depends on the model. I had a Lenovo t60p that was maxed out and that was better than most of the desktops I had used up to that time. I never had any probs with that. I don't remember if I used the sleep function or not though, so I really can't comment on that. Eric

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Ras Tafari
ok. ill be outside by the sycamore tree enjoying the warm breeze while you hunker down beside your big bad desktop. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: I'll put my desktop up against it any day... -Original Message- From: Ras Tafari

RE: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Eric Roberts
That's a boneheaded move on Apple's part... -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:50 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Facetime for Mac... If you use ColdFusion Builder, or anything Eclipse based, you may need to switch your

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