Re: Election Day Results Thread

2008-11-06 Thread G Money
Fair enough. And our President should always be a sports fanit's really the only redeeming quality of our current Prez. On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Heh, well ... you are who you are. > -- I'm only one, but not alone My finest day, is yet unknown

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2008-11-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> gMone wrote: > Watching Gruss switch into partisan mode was..revealing. > Heh, well ... you are who you are. As I've said, I'm fairly biased here. I don't personally know Obama but I know people that have worked with him, my wife's a U of C alum, and we spend a LOT of time in the Chicago s

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2008-11-06 Thread G Money
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 7:01 AM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have not seen Gruss post one anti-Obama statement, nor one pro-McCain > statement, so based on my experience, I would have to say, 'yes' > I know, that's why I brought him up :) Watching Gruss switch into partisan mode wa

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2008-11-06 Thread Scott Stroz
I have not seen Gruss post one anti-Obama statement, nor one pro-McCain statement, so based on my experience, I would have to say, 'yes' On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 7:59 AM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > And, G - I wo

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2008-11-06 Thread G Money
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And, G - I would agree with Charlie, you were not one of the vocal sheeple > that fit my description. And again, like Charlie, I would not hesitate to > say so if it were true. > Is Gruss a sheeple? (yeah, i'm trying to ge

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2008-11-06 Thread G Money
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > In addition to my previous response... let me ask this: > > Have you not seen such behavior from any Obama supporters? Because it's > really not an all-or-none proposition. > I haven't seen anything out of Obama's suppor

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2008-11-06 Thread denstar
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:11 PM, Charlie Griefer wrote: > But yeah, point being that I personally see that mentality on both ends of > the spectrum. This election, however, I felt that I heard it much much much > much much more from one side. Perhaps you already know why, but I think it's bec

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2008-11-05 Thread denstar
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Loathe wrote: > They were unarmored because the units involved were light infantry, not even > supposed to have vehicles in most cases. > > A lot of the issues early on with supply can be laid directly at the feet of > the Clinton administration. Maybe, but the stor

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2008-11-05 Thread Judah McAuley
I wanted to see Obama win because I think he is worthy of my criticism. As I've mentioned before, I violently disagreed with him on the FISA bill. I thought he had the opportunity to take control of the Democratic Party as its presumptive nominee and use his clout to defeat a very bad bill. He decl

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2008-11-05 Thread Gruss Gott
> tBone wrote: > Combination of things. > Not related to anything in particular but wasn't Rummy's top directive pre-Iraq to pull down and restructure the military? For example, to realign forces from a Cold War structure to a 21st century structure? And as part of that weren't his orders to cut

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2008-11-05 Thread Scott Stroz
+1 - I cannot discuss politics with most of the people in my wife's family for the same reasons...and on the same side of the aisle as Charlie's step father. And, oddly enough, they make the same claims about CNN and Fox news. I guess there are people like that on both sides, but this year it was

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2008-11-05 Thread Sam
I like Rush but only agree with half of what he says...maybe 60% On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and to be fair to our resident fan of W :) > . it extends beyond the list. My step father, for example. listens to > Rush religiously. Believes R

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2008-11-05 Thread Charlie Griefer
and to be fair to our resident fan of W :) . it extends beyond the list. My step father, for example. listens to Rush religiously. Believes Rush. Religiously. Says CNN isn't a reputable news source, but believes Fox News is fair and balanced. The guy's good to my mom, which is all that

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2008-11-05 Thread Charlie Griefer
hehe... I guess it's hard to not "name names" on this list when talking about Bush defenders :D On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think Bush made plenty of huge mistakes, Tenet, Greenspan, Armitage > and a few more leftovers he should have removed. Spending was aw

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2008-11-05 Thread Scott Stroz
And, G - I would agree with Charlie, you were not one of the vocal sheeple that fit my description. And again, like Charlie, I would not hesitate to say so if it were true. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > G - It was an over generalization, and I do not th

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2008-11-05 Thread Sam
He's is The One. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A trinidadian living in the US posted this: > > "My voice has gone. I have been screaming and shouting since the first > polls started coming in. Virginia was the biggest catch of them all > PERSONALLY to me not o

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2008-11-05 Thread Loathe
Message- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 3:51 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Election Day Results Thread > > so are you saying that there was no problem with their lack of armor? > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:45 PM,

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2008-11-05 Thread Scott Stroz
G - It was an over generalization, and I do not think all Obama suporters are like that (nor do I think that all Mac owners are like that - I am a Mac owner and I am not like that). On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:41 PM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Scott Stroz

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2008-11-05 Thread Sam
I think Bush made plenty of huge mistakes, Tenet, Greenspan, Armitage and a few more leftovers he should have removed. Spending was awful and lot's more. When I defend him on this list, it's usually from outright lies - Bush lied people died kind of nonsense. I'm all for criticizing him, just get

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2008-11-05 Thread Vivec
A trinidadian living in the US posted this: "My voice has gone. I have been screaming and shouting since the first polls started coming in. Virginia was the biggest catch of them all PERSONALLY to me not only due to proximity but because of it's history! Yesterday I cried, but today it hasn't sun

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2008-11-05 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:41 PM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Honestly, in what you've gathered from my posts here...do you think this > describes me? > > Man up and say "Yes G, this is what I think of you"..because I don't > want to hear "Well, not ALL of his followers are like that

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2008-11-05 Thread Dana
mm I had about the same reaction. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:41 PM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I just know was able to put a finger on what bothered me so much about the >> Obama campaign and, more to the point, Ob

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2008-11-05 Thread Dana
sues early on with supply can be laid directly at the feet of > the Clinton administration. > >> -Original Message- >> From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 3:07 PM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Re: Election Day Res

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2008-11-05 Thread Charlie Griefer
sorry, G... but it's certainly not all Obama supporters. I can't speak for Scott, but for me, I wouldn't make such a generalization. I know people on this list (or know of people on this list) who voted for Obama who have been very clear in stating why. I've seen one person in particular leap to

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2008-11-05 Thread Loathe
TECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 3:07 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Election Day Results Thread > > but ... it was republicans that sent soldiers out in > unarmored vehicles. What would you actually like to see? > That is my question. I was thinking about thi

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2008-11-05 Thread G Money
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just know was able to put a finger on what bothered me so much about the > Obama campaign and, more to the point, Obama supporters. > > They remind me of of Mac/Apple zealots. I can't help but personalize this because, wh

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2008-11-05 Thread Charlie Griefer
+1 To paraphrase a quote... "it's not God I have a problem with... it's his fan club". I don't hate Obama. When it came down to who to choose, yes... I did think that McCain had more experience and I was a bit worried by Obama's vision of change, but no clear plan of how to accomplish that change

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2008-11-05 Thread Dana
I listened to the McCain concession speech and his supported booed when he mentioned Obama. He put a stop to it though. I gather from the news this morning that Obama spoke a bit later, but I meissed it. Too much to do already and I took time off to knock on doors. I will say that the get out the v

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2008-11-05 Thread Scott Stroz
I just know was able to put a finger on what bothered me so much about the Obama campaign and, more to the point, Obama supporters. They remind me of of Mac/Apple zealots. The seemingly blind adoration. The never ending criticism of the other side. The air of arrogance and disdain against those w

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2008-11-05 Thread Dana
but ... it was republicans that sent soldiers out in unarmored vehicles. What would you actually like to see? That is my question. I was thinking about this today. I said an Obama administration should be held accountable also. But where to start? Obviously the economy. But how exactly?And what el

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2008-11-05 Thread Scott Stewart
how dare you, hijacking my cynicism :) Scott Stroz wrote: > I never assumed anything of him...I was merely trying to expand on the point > made by Scott Stewart so that it would read like this: > > I'm reallying hoping that Obama is a new > breed of politician that will do the will of the Americ

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2008-11-05 Thread Scott Stroz
I never assumed anything of him...I was merely trying to expand on the point made by Scott Stewart so that it would read like this: I'm reallying hoping that Obama is a new breed of politician that will do the will of the American people and not just the will of his party, or those who lined h

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2008-11-05 Thread Maureen
Obama !=Clinton so why not at least give him a chance to present his plan before you label it a failure. As for withdrawal being surrender, I've never seen the enemy in Iraq defined, so who would we surrender to? I hope you do keep your list, because I think you'll be surprised at how well he del

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2008-11-05 Thread Larry Lyons
Loned his pockets? is this some new form of campaign tactic? that said, aren't you assuming a lot here, and in a very negative direction? Showing a negative bias in this care don't you think by automatically presuming that the president elect would be that beholden to the contributors. Now unde

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2008-11-05 Thread Maureen
Nah. She's toast. Pregnant daughter, wack job husband. All the crap about her that surfaced during the election. She's toxic. I'd be surprised if she repeats as guv. The national Repugs won't touch her. Most of them were disgusted with the pick in the first place, and now she's got a big red Loser

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2008-11-05 Thread Larry Lyons
>Only when a Democrat wins ;) > >All kidding aside, I have not seen one minute of either speech but it would >not surprise me that the reps booed just as I would not be surprised if >McCain won and dems booed McCain. >From my best recollections it did not happen during dukkas', Gore's or Kerry's

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2008-11-05 Thread Robert Munn
nah, people taking profit after a two-day run-up On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Scott wrote: > CEO's selling off today? > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free T

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2008-11-05 Thread Sam
Anybody made redundant yet? On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Scott Raley -ITC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > CEO's selling off today? > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the

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2008-11-05 Thread Scott Raley -ITC
CEO's selling off today? -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:53 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Election Day Results Thread it woudl seem Wall Street are the only ones not drinking in the euphoria of an Obama win...D

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2008-11-05 Thread Scott Stroz
it woudl seem Wall Street are the only ones not drinking in the euphoria of an Obama win...DOW is down 300+ ppoints. -- Scott Stroz If you can't laugh at other people, who can you laugh at? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is

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2008-11-05 Thread Scott Stroz
Only when a Democrat wins ;) All kidding aside, I have not seen one minute of either speech but it would not surprise me that the reps booed just as I would not be surprised if McCain won and dems booed McCain. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I we

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2008-11-05 Thread Scott Stewart
even if he does that still has Military spending up 27% and it wasn't him that was Barney Frank and Frank has about as much federal clout as you do. Sam wrote: > He already said he's going to slash the military by 25% > > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

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2008-11-05 Thread Gruss Gott
> gMoney wrote: > I think Obama is a smart man. I think he knows the kinds of perils that > could arise from a diminished military. But I guess we'll just have to wait > and see. > The president sets the mission, the Congress has the power of the purse. If there was funding/mission mismatch then

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2008-11-05 Thread G Money
Where? When? Why would you post this without a link. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He already said he's going to slash the military by 25% > > -- I'm only one, but not alone My finest day, is yet unknown ~~

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2008-11-05 Thread Sam
He already said he's going to slash the military by 25% On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brice, > > If it matters at all...Thank you...for all you are doing. > > One thing I never got from Obama was an 'anti-military' kind of attitude. I > actually got qui

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2008-11-05 Thread Bruce Sorge
Time will tell. Again, I hope that this was not more than campaign rhetoric, but real promises that he intends to keep. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:13 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > Brice, > > If it matters at all...Thank you...for all you are doing. > > One thing I never got from Obama was an 'anti-mili

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2008-11-05 Thread Sam
If McCain win there would have been riots. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Only when a Democrat wins ;) > > All kidding aside, I have not seen one minute of either speech but it would > not surprise me that the reps booed just as I would not be surprised if

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2008-11-05 Thread Scott Stroz
Brice, If it matters at all...Thank you...for all you are doing. One thing I never got from Obama was an 'anti-military' kind of attitude. I actually got quite the opposite feeling from him. Mayeb its a case of him learning from what Clinton did. I may not like some of what he stands for, but

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2008-11-05 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I went back and watched Kerry's concession speech, and although I couldn't see how big the crowd was, there weren't any boos that I could hear. I can't remember other concession speeches, but is this typical? On Nov 4, 2008, at 11:13 PM, Dana wrote: > they actually booed him. America stil

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2008-11-05 Thread Bruce Sorge
Sorry to take so long to answer. Just got back from my second mission of the day. Loathe said it. I too remember the Clinton years, and they were by far the worst years of my 12 year military career. And I don't want to come home early if that means surrender, and that is what is going to happen.

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2008-11-05 Thread Scott Stroz
Or the will of those who loned his pockets during the campaign. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > and your absolutely right, I'm reallying hoping that Obama is a new > breed of politician that will do the will of the American people and not > just the wil

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2008-11-05 Thread Erika L. Walker
If we believe that it is so, and we keep tabs on him and congress and continue to believe that it is so, then perhaps it will be so? America has certainly shown that it can be a noisy bunch, given a cause... Apathy usually does us in. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTE

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2008-11-05 Thread Scott Stewart
and your absolutely right, I'm reallying hoping that Obama is a new breed of politician that will do the will of the American people and not just the wil lof his party as so many in the past have done. G Money wrote: > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >

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2008-11-05 Thread G Money
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > Just my opinion, but these don't sound like the words of a President who > will abandon the military > No they don't, but for now they are just that...wordswe'll see if his actions bear that out. One can certainly s

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2008-11-05 Thread Loathe
L PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:30 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: RE: Election Day Results Thread > > Some viewer called into one of the nbc stations this > morning.. I don't know if it was MSNBC or what I switched to > that said they heard a rumor

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2008-11-05 Thread G Money
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Keep feeding us this info, please. > Indeed. This is good information and it's something that everyone needs to keep in mind. I think Obama is a smart man. I think he knows the kinds of perils that could arise from a di

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2008-11-05 Thread Scott Stewart
After reading yours and Loathe's threads.. 1) You should never, ever have to pay for your own gear. And you should have the best that science can come up with at your disposal. 2)The President should understand that a well fed, well cared for military means a stronger military that will be that

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2008-11-05 Thread Loathe
To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Election Day Results Thread > > Yes, it is all about dollars and cents. > Without money, we can't buy the parts we need to keep the > vehicles running to get us out to train. If we can't train, > we are not ready to fight. We can&#x

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2008-11-05 Thread Scott Raley -ITC
ge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:12 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Election Day Results Thread Yes, it is all about dollars and cents. Without money, we can't buy the parts we need to keep the vehicles running to get us out to train. If we can't train, we ar

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2008-11-05 Thread Jerry Johnson
Keep feeding us this info, please. Because it is not really Obama that is going to change all this, it is Congress. (You know, like the Republican controlled Congress during the Clinton Administration) So, I am going to listen to your suggestions, especially those changes you saw during the Clin

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2008-11-05 Thread Scott Raley -ITC
11:17 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Election Day Results Thread To jump in with my own experiences. Under the Clinton administration it seemed that the "dumb grunt" perception was furthered. Operational tempo was at an all time high (Somalia, Haiti, Eastern Europe, Korea, Kuwait, Saudi an

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2008-11-05 Thread G Money
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Understand I love the military very much, not because I get to wear a > uniform and everyone thanks me, but because I just love soldiering. And > that > is what bothers me so much, that this institution that has been so good

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2008-11-05 Thread Bruce Sorge
Yes, it is all about dollars and cents. Without money, we can't buy the parts we need to keep the vehicles running to get us out to train. If we can't train, we are not ready to fight. We can't afford the new equipment or the neccessary upgrades that are required to keep us technologically superior

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2008-11-05 Thread G Money
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To jump in with my own experiences. > > Under the Clinton administration it seemed that the "dumb grunt" perception > was furthered. Operational tempo was at an all time high (Somalia, Haiti, > Eastern Europe, Korea, Kuwait, Sau

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2008-11-05 Thread Loathe
That administration needed us, but it didn't want to see us. > -Original Message- > From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:03 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Election Day Results Thread > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at

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2008-11-05 Thread Bruce Sorge
I was in between missions and had a couple minutes to put that out there. I am not going to let this affect how I do my job. I put forth 110% in everything I do, and it shows. I am already beeing looked at for early promotion, which satisfies one of my immediate goals. But again I do remember the

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2008-11-05 Thread Scott Raley -ITC
ovember 05, 2008 9:44 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Election Day Results Thread > Scott wrote: > Don't count those chickens... Today show (NBC) is interviewing people that > say they voted just because he is african american and their ancestors were > slaves so they took adva

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2008-11-05 Thread Scott Raley -ITC
--Original Message- From: Erika L. Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:32 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Election Day Results Thread Bruce - I can't begin to understand deep down why you feel this way - HOWEVER ... Like you said, there's nothing anyone

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2008-11-05 Thread Gruss Gott
> Scott wrote: > Don't count those chickens... Today show (NBC) is interviewing people that > say they voted just because he is african american and their ancestors were > slaves so they took advantage for the first african American to make it that > far in the elections.. I can't believe they wou

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2008-11-05 Thread Erika L. Walker
Bruce - I can't begin to understand deep down why you feel this way - HOWEVER ... Like you said, there's nothing anyone can do about it now. We have a new president-elect, and we will all have to suck it up, whether we supported him or not, because there's sure to be changes we all won't agree wit

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2008-11-05 Thread Tony
e- > From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:15 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Election Day Results Thread > > true... > > of course it is... but no matter what... i just cant understand how > obama wouldnt inspire someone... >

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2008-11-05 Thread Scott Raley -ITC
crap on TV.. -Original Message- From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:15 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Election Day Results Thread true... of course it is... but no matter what... i just cant understand how obama wouldnt inspire someone... even ac

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2008-11-05 Thread Tony
true... of course it is... but no matter what... i just cant understand how obama wouldnt inspire someone... even across party lines... the man is just so damn charismatic... i dont know, maybe its just me and the other 62,000, THAT GET IT! wtf... -- tony Better than a thousand hollow word

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2008-11-05 Thread G Money
I noticed that too Tee-Dub, but remember...it's an awful lot easier to be a gracious WINNER, than a gracious LOSERespecially when McCain gave such a wonderful concession speech...there wasn't anything in there that a reasonable person could possibly boo. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 7:21 AM, Tony <

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2008-11-05 Thread G Money
Terrific observation Jerry...i noticed the same thing. That speech, at the end, THAT was the real McCain. On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 11:04 PM, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did you see how flat it fell on his supporters? It was like he was speaking > French to them. > > _That_ is why we

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2008-11-05 Thread Loathe
ty > Subject: Re: Election Day Results Thread > > How is your life different today than it was yesterday? > > What actually changed? > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yeah. Military life just got shitty again. Thanks

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2008-11-05 Thread Larry Lyons
>Yeah. Military life just got shitty again. Thanks America for fucking us >again. I so much look forward to 4 years of getting fucked in the ass. >Oh well, not much I can do about it right now but suck it up and try to be >the best soldier I can be. Better luck in '12 Say what? What gives you that

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2008-11-05 Thread Larry Lyons
>I felt kinda bad for him. He has wanted it for so long. However, I >am much relieved that Ms.Hockey Mom is on her way back to the moose >hunt. > Don't count on it. She's going to be working the republican rubber chicken lunch and the fundamentalist revival circuits for the next 3 years. Then s

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2008-11-05 Thread Scott Raley -ITC
Why can't you look on the Brightside.. you have 70 days of Bush supremacy left and maybe you'll get to come home earlier now.. -Original Message- From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 7:56 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Election D

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2008-11-05 Thread Tony
you know it was going to happen, didnt you rob-o? -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:35 AM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have to admit, the press starting to come in from around the world is

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2008-11-05 Thread Tony
mccain supporters booed obama. obama supporters did nothing of the sort. showed me a lot -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:13 AM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > they actually booed him. America still

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2008-11-05 Thread Scott Stewart
How will it change? Obama didn't strike me as an enemy of the military.. Bruce Sorge wrote: > Yeah. Military life just got shitty again. Thanks America for fucking us > again. I so much look forward to 4 years of getting fucked in the ass. > Oh well, not much I can do about it right now but suck i

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2008-11-05 Thread Jerry Johnson
How is your life different today than it was yesterday? What actually changed? On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah. Military life just got shitty again. Thanks America for fucking us > again. I so much look forward to 4 years of getting fucked in the ass

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2008-11-05 Thread Bruce Sorge
Yeah. Military life just got shitty again. Thanks America for fucking us again. I so much look forward to 4 years of getting fucked in the ass. Oh well, not much I can do about it right now but suck it up and try to be the best soldier I can be. Better luck in '12 On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 5:54 AM, T

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2008-11-05 Thread Vivec
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2008-11-05 Thread Erika L. Walker
I quoted you on the blog... By Gruss. :) On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:47 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No child anywhere in the World will doubt that with hard work they can > be President; if only they have democracy like America. > > ~~

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2008-11-05 Thread Erika L. Walker
Now that almost made me cry ... On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:47 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No child anywhere in the World will doubt that with hard work they can > be President; if only they have democracy like America. > > America has just peacefully overthrown its existing Presi

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2008-11-04 Thread Beth In Alaska
>I felt kinda bad for him. He has wanted it for so long. However, I > am much relieved that Ms.Hockey Mom is on her way back to the moose > hunt. I have mixed feelings about that obviously. I'd love to pawn her off on someone else. ~

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2008-11-04 Thread Gruss Gott
> Maureen wrote: > I felt kinda bad for him. He has wanted it for so long. Bush effectively took him down both times: the first time with push-polling in the south suggesting he had fathered a black child and the second time through McCain's own support of him. ~~

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2008-11-04 Thread Maureen
I felt kinda bad for him. He has wanted it for so long. However, I am much relieved that Ms.Hockey Mom is on her way back to the moose hunt. On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Beth In Alaska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> McCain just conceded. In a very gracious speech. > > > I actually really like

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2008-11-04 Thread Beth In Alaska
> McCain just conceded. In a very gracious speech. I actually really like the guy. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;20717267

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2008-11-04 Thread Gruss Gott
> Weegs wrote: > amazing america... you have surprised and pleased me! > No child anywhere in the World will doubt that with hard work they can be President; if only they have democracy like America. America has just peacefully overthrown its existing President and replaced him with a black dude

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2008-11-04 Thread Robert Munn
I have to admit, the press starting to come in from around the world is rather awe-inspiring. On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Jerry J wrote: > God Damn! > > Sign me up. > > I don't know if that speech could have been any better. >

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2008-11-04 Thread Jerry Johnson
God Damn! Sign me up. I don't know if that speech could have been any better. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;294

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2008-11-04 Thread Robert Munn
There will be some bruised feelings on both sides for awhile, but the country is in such trouble at the moment that everyone is just going to have to suck it up and get to work. On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Dana wrote: > they actually booed him. America still has some work to do to restore >

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2008-11-04 Thread Dana
they actually booed him. America still has some work to do to restore civility to the public discourse. On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did you see how flat it fell on his supporters? It was like he was speaking > French to them. > > _That_ is why we did

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2008-11-04 Thread Charlie Griefer
clothes shopping. the man has good taste in boots. On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:00 PM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That speech. > Where was that McCain during the campaign :) > > 2008/11/5 Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > McCain just conceded. In a very gracious speech. > > ~~~

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2008-11-04 Thread Jerry Johnson
Did you see how flat it fell on his supporters? It was like he was speaking French to them. _That_ is why we didn't see that McCain during the campaign. His own campaign wouldn't have shown up. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:00 AM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That speech. > Where was that McCa

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2008-11-04 Thread Vivec
That speech. Where was that McCain during the campaign :) 2008/11/5 Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > McCain just conceded. In a very gracious speech. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to da

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2008-11-04 Thread Dana
McCain just conceded. In a very gracious speech. On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Definitely time to get moving forward. McCain and Obama have both had a ton > of people already given top secret access, so he has people ready to start > the transition with t

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