How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Howie Hamlin
Take the ACLU quiz and find out. Heck, it's even writeen in ColdFusion :-) http://www.aclu.org/Quizzes/QuizIntro.cfm?ID=4MX=549H=1 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription:

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Will Swain
free are we? Take the ACLU quiz and find out. Heck, it's even writeen in ColdFusion :-) http://www.aclu.org/Quizzes/QuizIntro.cfm?ID=4MX=549H=1 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Timothy Heald
free are we? Take the ACLU quiz and find out. Heck, it's even writeen in ColdFusion :-) http://www.aclu.org/Quizzes/QuizIntro.cfm?ID=4MX=549H=1 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription

Re: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Jacob
Where is DevCon this year? Orlando? hmmm... How many of you will volunteer for the x-ray machine??? ;-) At 11:19 AM 10/23/2002 -0400, you wrote: Take the ACLU quiz and find out. Heck, it's even writeen in ColdFusion :-) http://www.aclu.org/Quizzes/QuizIntro.cfm?ID=4MX=549H=1

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Jacob
: Howie Hamlin [mailto:howie;coolfusion.com] Sent: 23 October 2002 16:20 To: CF-Community Subject: How free are we? Take the ACLU quiz and find out. Heck, it's even writeen in ColdFusion :-) http://www.aclu.org/Quizzes/QuizIntro.cfm?ID=4MX=549H=1

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Raymond Camden
Yahoo IM : morpheus My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:howie;coolfusion.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:20 AM To: CF-Community Subject: How free are we? Take the ACLU quiz and find out. Heck, it's

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Larry Lyons
PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- -Original Message- From: Timothy Heald [mailto:healdt;dsmail.state.gov] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:27 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? Wow that is not even close to impartial. It's right

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Jacob
Subject: How free are we? Take the ACLU quiz and find out. Heck, it's even writeen in ColdFusion :-) http://www.aclu.org/Quizzes/QuizIntro.cfm?ID=4MX=549H=1 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Timothy Heald
Did you even bother to read the rest of my email? Tim -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:llyons;ebstor.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:36 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? Not close to impartial? All the items are entirely legit and have been

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Jacob
;dsmail.state.gov] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:27 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? Wow that is not even close to impartial. It's right, but that's besides the point. And damn they need to go to the bandwidth store baaad. Tim -Original Message- From

Re: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Paris Lundis
people, places and things] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jacob) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 08:28:45 -0700 Subject: Re: How free are we? Where is DevCon this year? Orlando? hmmm... How many of you will volunteer for the x-ray machine??? ;-) At 11:19 AM 10/23/2002 -0400

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Will Swain
I wouldn't have thought so. I done similar quizzes and they seem to work fine. w -Original Message- From: Jacob [mailto:jacob;excaliburfilms.com] Sent: 23 October 2002 16:36 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? Can't be that hard to code... At 11:32 AM 10/23/2002 -0400, you

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Will Swain
Hi Tim, Why is the accuracy or otherwise besides the point. I assume that's what you meant by the rest of your email. Cheers w -Original Message- From: Timothy Heald [mailto:healdt;dsmail.state.gov] Sent: 23 October 2002 16:36 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? Did you

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Larry Lyons
: (703) 393-2659 Web: http://www.ebstor.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- -Original Message- From: Timothy Heald [mailto:healdt;dsmail.state.gov] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:27 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Larry Lyons
AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? Wow that is not even close to impartial. It's right, but that's besides the point. And damn they need to go to the bandwidth store baaad. Tim -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:howie;coolfusion.com] Sent

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Nick McClure
Nothing forbids a private company from putting up an x-ray machine. -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:llyons;ebstor.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:36 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? Not close to impartial? All the items are entirely legit

Re: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Howie Hamlin
DoS attack from whitehouse.gov? - Original Message - From: Paris Lundis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:33 AM Subject: Re: How free are we? yeah their app keeps throwing CF server errors... sever is either restarting service

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Nick McClure
I get a quiz no longer available error. -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:howie;coolfusion.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:20 AM To: CF-Community Subject: How free are we? Take the ACLU quiz and find out. Heck, it's even writeen in ColdFusion :- ) http

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Nick McClure
It is being Farked. That is what happens with 5000 people hit a site at the same time. -Original Message- From: Paris Lundis [mailto:PLundis;areaindex.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:34 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: How free are we? yeah their app keeps throwing CF

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Nick McClure
What I really don't understand is why isn't the ACLU bringing this stuff before the supreme court? -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:llyons;ebstor.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:36 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? Not close to impartial? All

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Larry Lyons
PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:jacob;excaliburfilms.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:38 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? What Constitution? We still have one? I though

Re: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread jon hall
While you guys are there...the ACLU has a nice but infrequent newsletter that keeps people up to date on what they are doing. A lot of times if there is a bill being considered that they are against they will send links to the bill and their position. It's a nice way to keep up to date on the

Re: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Jacob
Subject: Re: How free are we? yeah their app keeps throwing CF server errors... sever is either restarting service or is timing out.. growl... Paris Lundis Founder Areaindex, L.L.C. http://www.areaindex.com http://www.pubcrawler.com 412-292-3135 [finding the future in the past

Re: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Paris Lundis
, 23 Oct 2002 11:45:13 -0400 Subject: Re: How free are we? DoS attack from whitehouse.gov? - Original Message - From: Paris Lundis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:33 AM Subject: Re: How free are we? yeah their app keeps

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Paris Lundis
McClure [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:45:52 -0400 Subject: RE: How free are we? I get a quiz no longer available error. -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:howie;coolfusion.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:20 AM To: CF-Community Subject: How free

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Larry Lyons
) 393-2659 Web: http://www.ebstor.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- -Original Message- From: Nick McClure [mailto:cf-lists;king-nacho.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:48 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? What

Re: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Jacob
Speaking of free, US may release some of those being held at Gitmo in Cuba... At 12:48 PM 10/23/2002 -0400, you wrote: While you guys are there...the ACLU has a nice but infrequent newsletter that keeps people up to date on what they are doing. A lot of times if there is a bill being considered

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Phoeun Pha
right to sue and exploit our laws! -Original Message- From: Nick McClure [mailto:cf-lists;king-nacho.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 10:45 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? Nothing forbids a private company from putting up an x-ray machine. -Original Message

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Phoeun Pha
No. THe government pulled it down once it realized people were passing these quizzes!!! :) -Original Message- From: Nick McClure [mailto:cf-lists;king-nacho.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 10:48 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? It is being Farked

Re: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Howie Hamlin
Maybe they're trying. Remember - the case has to be approved for consideration by a 5-4 conservative court. - Original Message - From: Nick McClure [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:48 AM Subject: RE: How free are we? What I

Re: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread jon hall
- From: Paris Lundis [mailto:PLundis;areaindex.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:34 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: How free are we? yeah their app keeps throwing CF server errors... sever is either restarting service or is timing out.. growl... Paris Lundis NM

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Timothy Heald
their trash or what have you). Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:jacob;excaliburfilms.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:57 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: How free are we? A DDOS attack from ACLU launched on whitehouse.gov servers that backfired... At 11:45 AM 10

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Jacob
and things] -Original Message- From: Nick McClure [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:45:52 -0400 Subject: RE: How free are we? I get a quiz no longer available error. -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:howie;coolfusion.com] Sent: Wednesday, October

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Jacob
Subject: RE: How free are we? Nothing forbids a private company from putting up an x-ray machine. -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:llyons;ebstor.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:36 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? Not close

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Phoeun Pha
We CFugged the site. CFuggers, march on! -Original Message- From: jon hall [mailto:jonhall;ozline.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 12:11 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: How free are we? lol we cf-communityed (ied?) the site! The sounds odd though...any suggestions? :) -- jon

Re: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Paris Lundis
412-292-3135 [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: jon hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 13:10:46 -0400 Subject: Re: How free are we? lol we cf-communityed (ied?) the site

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Jacob
;excaliburfilms.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:57 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: How free are we? A DDOS attack from ACLU launched on whitehouse.gov servers that backfired... At 11:45 AM 10/23/2002 -0400, you wrote: DoS attack from whitehouse.gov? - Original Message - From: Paris Lundis

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Nick McClure
have a Constitution, and when the dust settles I feel it will still be on top. -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:llyons;ebstor.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 12:01 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? They probably are. Unfortunately these things take

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Ben Doom
Beta. --Ben Doom Programmer General Lackey Moonbow Software : -Original Message- : From: Jacob [mailto:jacob;excaliburfilms.com] : Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 12:25 PM : To: CF-Community : Subject: RE: How free are we? : : : Access 2.0 : : At 11:56 AM 10/23/2002

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Kevin Graeme
I scored 100%. No CF errors or serious lag. Nice looking survey. -Kevin Graeme -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:howie;coolfusion.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 10:20 AM To: CF-Community Subject: How free are we? Take the ACLU quiz and find out. Heck, it's

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Timothy Heald
;excaliburfilms.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 12:34 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? Do you like 3rd amendment? Why is there no debate of that one? It was more important than the 4th or 5th amendment back in the 1780. At 12:13 PM 10/23/2002 -0400, you wrote: Ok

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Nick McClure
- From: Jacob [mailto:jacob;excaliburfilms.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 12:34 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? Do you like 3rd amendment? Why is there no debate of that one? It was more important than the 4th or 5th amendment back in the 1780

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Kevin Graeme
;excaliburfilms.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:34 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? Do you like 3rd amendment? Why is there no debate of that one? It was more important than the 4th or 5th amendment back in the 1780. At 12:13 PM 10/23/2002 -0400, you wrote: Ok, I

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Nick McClure
http://www.pubcrawler.com 412-292-3135 [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: jon hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 13:10:46 -0400 Subject: Re: How free are we? lol we cf

Re: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Howie Hamlin
people get out of prison. Howie - Original Message - From: Timothy Heald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 12:13 PM Subject: RE: How free are we? Ok, I reread my earlier post and I guess I need to be more obvious in my attempts

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Jacob
] [mailto:jacob;excaliburfilms.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:57 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: How free are we? A DDOS attack from ACLU launched on whitehouse.gov servers that backfired... At 11:45 AM 10/23/2002 -0400, you wrote: DoS attack from whitehouse.gov? - Original

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Phoeun Pha
;dsmail.state.gov] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:48 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? I still think it is very important to note that soldiers cannot be garrisoned in your home. That was a major issue, and with these uncertain times I could see it eventually becoming important

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Harkins,Patrick
ok someone - i think it's time to send in your resume! :-) -Original Message- From: Nick McClure [mailto:cf-lists;king-nacho.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 12:54 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? I was serious, it was Farked. I saw the site on Fark

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Kevin Graeme
: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 12:04 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? Exactly... With Bush sending troop to Afghanistan and Iraq, the Federal Government will start housing troops in the residences of those living in Enid, OK... At 12:47 PM 10/23/2002 -0400, you wrote: I still

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Kevin Graeme
But, but... It looks nice, and it worked for me. ;-) -Kevin Graeme -Original Message- From: Jacob [mailto:jacob;excaliburfilms.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 12:10 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? cf_resume_snippet No ColdFusion skills. Very little

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Phoeun Pha
Do as we say, not as we do - US Motto -Original Message- From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:kgraeme;facstaff.wisc.edu] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 12:14 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? Ah, you're pointing out the U.S. double-standard. Our laws apply to us but nobody

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Nick McClure
Subject: RE: How free are we? I am a constitution freak, I pretty much follow the tenth, anything not mentioned in the constitution specifically, falls to the state or the people. Now if you follow that line of reasoning I would say probably 90% of our federal government violates the letter

Re: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Howie Hamlin
Yeah, same as any other country AFAIK. - Original Message - From: Kevin Graeme [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:14 PM Subject: RE: How free are we? Ah, you're pointing out the U.S. double-standard. Our laws apply to us

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Larry Lyons
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- -Original Message- From: Timothy Heald [mailto:healdt;dsmail.state.gov] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 12:14 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? Ok, I reread my earlier post and I guess

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Jacob
, and... -Kevin Graeme -Original Message- From: Jacob [mailto:jacob;excaliburfilms.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 12:04 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? Exactly... With Bush sending troop to Afghanistan and Iraq, the Federal Government will start housing

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Phoeun Pha
:) -Original Message- From: Jacob [mailto:jacob;excaliburfilms.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 12:26 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? Double-standards in the U.S. Government... never! Actually, I was trying to say that the 3rd amendment is really not needed. It was added

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Timothy Heald
-Original Message- From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:phoeunp;entelligence.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:35 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? Does anybody ever consider that the constitution was written under a state of passion? You know what that feels like. You do things

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Nick McClure
It wasn't just British troops. The Minutemen would force themselves into the houses of British supporters. It was to protect the people, all of the people. Actually, I was trying to say that the 3rd amendment is really not needed. It was added because when the Brits came over in the 1700s,

Re: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Howie Hamlin
The US Constitution is one of the greatest documents ever written. How can you say this? - Original Message - From: Phoeun Pha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:34 PM Subject: RE: How free are we? Does anybody ever consider

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Phoeun Pha
[mailto:healdt;dsmail.state.gov] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 12:44 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? It wasn't just passion. They didn't write the constitution in a day. It was heavily debated. If you want to get a really good sense of the thoughts of the founders you should read

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Timothy Heald
Not every body gets it man. Clinton said the document was overly radical or something to that effect while he was in office. Tim -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:howie;coolfusion.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:48 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: How free are we

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Phoeun Pha
: Re: How free are we? The US Constitution is one of the greatest documents ever written. How can you say this? - Original Message - From: Phoeun Pha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:34 PM Subject: RE: How free are we? Does

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Timothy Heald
that closely mirror the original. Tim -Original Message- From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:phoeunp;entelligence.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:47 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? Yes I've read the papersin HS and debated on them heavily especially on Separation of Church

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Timothy Heald
religions free exercise? Tim -Original Message- From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:phoeunp;entelligence.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:47 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? Yes I've read the papersin HS and debated on them heavily especially on Separation of Church and State

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Nick McClure
, October 23, 2002 1:47 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? Yes I've read the papersin HS and debated on them heavily especially on Separation of Church and State. THe Constitution says that CONGRESS cannot ESTABLISH a religion blah blah blah. But it does not specifically

Re: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Howie Hamlin
- Original Message - From: Timothy Heald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:50 PM Subject: RE: How free are we? Not every body gets it man. Clinton said the document was overly radical or something to that effect while he was in office

Re: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Howie Hamlin
:49 PM Subject: RE: How free are we? The US Constitution is one of the greatest documents ever written and the patriotric passion the authors went through were felt by Americans on 9/11. :) ~| Archives: http

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Timothy Heald
I feel your pain brother. Do you know that most Americans have never even read the entire document? It just blows my mind. Tim -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:howie;coolfusion.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:59 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: How free are we

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Nick McClure
that to what we think is right. -Original Message- From: Timothy Heald [mailto:healdt;dsmail.state.gov] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:50 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? Not every body gets it man. Clinton said the document was overly radical or something

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Phoeun Pha
THen that makes me wonder why they remove prayer, even if silent, from football games. It abridges the player's priveleges. -Original Message- From: Timothy Heald [mailto:healdt;dsmail.state.gov] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 12:56 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Nick McClure
You are damn right. I hold the same exact opinion you do. -Original Message- From: Timothy Heald [mailto:healdt;dsmail.state.gov] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:58 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? Something else about this issue, and I am not a religious

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Phoeun Pha
Yes -Original Message- From: Timothy Heald [mailto:healdt;dsmail.state.gov] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 12:58 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? Something else about this issue, and I am not a religious person, just very literal in my interpretation

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Nick McClure
It does, but in general, this has not happened. -Original Message- From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:phoeunp;entelligence.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:08 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? THen that makes me wonder why they remove prayer, even if silent, from

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Nick McClure
: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:49 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? The US Constitution is one of the greatest documents ever written and the patriotric passion the authors went through were felt by Americans on 9/11

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Phoeun Pha
: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:03 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: How free are we? You are implying that the framers of our Constitution were akin to the people who jumped on the patriotic bandwagon just to wave a flag and join a cause. You are completely wrong. True patriotism is not about sticking

CLinton RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Phoeun Pha
THe paper that he criticizes allows him to do so. Praise that man for practicing the Constitution!! -Original Message- From: Nick McClure [mailto:cf-lists;king-nacho.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:12 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Phoeun Pha
[mailto:cf-lists;king-nacho.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:23 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? To say this shows that you don't truly understand the document. The document was an experiment, and it still is. The Articles of Confederation were too weak to keep things together

TERRORISM RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Phoeun Pha
is, doing so will label you as a terrorist. Guess were kinda stuck. -Original Message- From: Nick McClure [mailto:cf-lists;king-nacho.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:23 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? To say this shows that you don't truly understand

Re: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Howie Hamlin
Slaves were not considered to be anything but chattle and, so, the Constitution at that time did not apply to them. - Original Message - From: Phoeun Pha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:24 PM Subject: RE: How free are we

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Nick McClure
The really weren't, The Article of Confederation were written with that passion, and they failed. It wasn't until everybody calmed down and got back into normal life that they realized they needed something more powerful. I very much understand what you are trying to say, but just look at how

RE: CLinton RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Nick McClure
23, 2002 2:21 PM To: CF-Community Subject: CLinton RE: How free are we? THe paper that he criticizes allows him to do so. Praise that man for practicing the Constitution!! ~| Archives: http

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Nick McClure
are trivializing this, they didn't come up with this overnight. -Original Message- From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:phoeunp;entelligence.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:24 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? It makes me wonder how they tackled the slave issue. I wonder

RE: CLinton RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Phoeun Pha
Yeah I heard him say God dangit! heh -Original Message- From: Nick McClure [mailto:cf-lists;king-nacho.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:33 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: CLinton RE: How free are we? You are right, it does allow him to do that, and for that I praise

RE: TERRORISM RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Nick McClure
Yes, the government will label you a terrorist, but that is why it is time to abolish it. -Original Message- From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:phoeunp;entelligence.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:26 PM To: CF-Community Subject: TERRORISM RE: How free are we? The same people who

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Kevin Graeme
was right, and compare that to what we think is right. -Original Message- From: Timothy Heald [mailto:healdt;dsmail.state.gov] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:50 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? Not every body gets it man. Clinton said the document

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Phoeun Pha
Gee I know but I have so little time to write a whole book :) -Original Message- From: Nick McClure [mailto:cf-lists;king-nacho.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:36 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? Well, Many people wanted to include a ban on slavery

Re: TERRORISM RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Howie Hamlin
Yeah, just what the terrorists wanted on 9/11. Good idea. - Original Message - From: Nick McClure [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: RE: TERRORISM RE: How free are we? Yes, the government will label you a terrorist

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Nick McClure
ten dollars for each Person. -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:howie;coolfusion.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:30 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: How free are we? Slaves were not considered to be anything but chattle and, so, the Constitution at that time did

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Nick McClure
I am not saying you should write a book. I am saying you should read the ones already written. ;) -Original Message- From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:phoeunp;entelligence.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:36 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: How free are we? Gee I know but I have

RE: TERRORISM RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Nick McClure
Subject: Re: TERRORISM RE: How free are we? Yeah, just what the terrorists wanted on 9/11. Good idea. - Original Message - From: Nick McClure [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: RE: TERRORISM RE: How free are we

Re: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Howie Hamlin
What I said was that the freedoms guaranteed to us in the Constitution specifically did not apply to slaves at the time. - Original Message - From: Nick McClure [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:43 PM Subject: RE: How free are we

Re: TERRORISM RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Howie Hamlin
-Community Subject: Re: TERRORISM RE: How free are we? Yeah, just what the terrorists wanted on 9/11. Good idea. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http

RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Nick McClure
Oh, my mistake. I misunderstood. -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:howie;coolfusion.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:46 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: How free are we? What I said was that the freedoms guaranteed to us in the Constitution specifically did

RE: TERRORISM RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Nick McClure
: Howie Hamlin [mailto:howie;coolfusion.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:51 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: TERRORISM RE: How free are we? The current administration is the cause of this - I'd rather keep our Constitution in place than these clowns

Re: TERRORISM RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Howie Hamlin
McClure [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:59 PM Subject: RE: TERRORISM RE: How free are we? I don't think we have reached the point, I don't think I would be labeled a terrorist for saying what I have said. Remember, the Senate passed

RE: TERRORISM RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Phoeun Pha
- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:howie;coolfusion.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:51 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: TERRORISM RE: How free are we? The current administration is the cause of this - I'd rather keep our Constitution in place than these clowns

RE: TERRORISM RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Nick McClure
Agreed -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:howie;coolfusion.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:05 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: TERRORISM RE: How free are we? No, but the congress is running scared because the administration keeps saying over and over that you

RE: TERRORISM RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Phoeun Pha
- From: Nick McClure [mailto:cf-lists;king-nacho.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:07 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: TERRORISM RE: How free are we? Agreed -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:howie;coolfusion.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:05 PM To: CF

RE: TERRORISM RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Cantrell, Adam
-Original Message- From: Nick McClure [mailto:cf-lists;king-nacho.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:38 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: TERRORISM RE: How free are we? Yes, the government will label you a terrorist, but that is why it is time to abolish it. Just make sure

RE: TERRORISM RE: How free are we?

2002-10-23 Thread Phoeun Pha
- From: Cantrell, Adam [mailto:Acantrell;kentlaw.edu] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:16 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: TERRORISM RE: How free are we? -Original Message- From: Nick McClure [mailto:cf-lists;king-nacho.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:38 PM To: CF-Community

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