Re: Going back to school....

2010-08-24 Thread Scott Stroz
I do plan on taking classes that will allow me to expand my skill set, but I want to balance that with being able to get credit towards a degree for all the stuff I learned on my own the last 10+ years. They offer a wide variety of IT related classes, including some on Java, .NET and PHP. There i

Re: Going back to school....

2010-08-24 Thread G Money
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > For the degree I am pursuing, BS in Information Technology, one of the > required classes is Web Site Development Using DreamWeaver and one of > the elective classes is Web Application Development Using ColdFusion. > > There are other clas

Re: Going back in time

2007-01-04 Thread Jerry Johnson
C'mon, I thought I set that one up for a much earlier return... On 1/4/07, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You know what hash is, dude. > ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion M

Re: Going back in time

2007-01-04 Thread Tony
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 2:27 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Going back in time > > > > kindergarten > > firstgrade > > chasing tail (you know the rest) > > 1.6 gpa in highschool > > 8 yrs later: > &g

RE: Going back in time

2007-01-04 Thread Ray Champagne
You know what hash is, dude. > -Original Message- > From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 2:27 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Going back in time > > kindergarten > firstgrade > chasing tail (you know the rest) > 1.6 g

Re: Going back in time

2007-01-04 Thread Matthew Blatchley
same here hash function or hash table - Original Message - From: "loathe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 1:41 PM Subject: RE: Going back in time > Damn see, I thought he meant an array (hash table) > > Da

Re: Going back in time

2007-01-04 Thread Scott_A . _Stewart
tt A. Stewart/REAC/HHQ/HUD) Subject:Re: Going back in time Number, pound, sharp, village, hash, octothorp # (Hash mark is the unix/old geek term) On 1/4/07, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > kindergarten > firstgrade > chasing tail (you know the rest) > 1.6 gpa

Re: Going back in time

2007-01-04 Thread Tony
a not a geek. was a designer, turned geek. still learning geekese tw On 1/4/07, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Number, pound, sharp, village, hash, octothorp > > # > > (Hash mark is the unix/old geek term) > > On 1/4/07, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > kindergar

RE: Going back in time

2007-01-04 Thread Scott_A . _Stewart
what's that gonna cost you? Scott A. Stewart REAC/PASS-IT (202)-475-8875 "loathe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 01/04/2007 02:41 PM Please respond to cf-community To: CF-Community cc: (bcc: Scott A. Stewart/REAC/HHQ/HUD) Subject: RE: Goin

Re: Going back in time

2007-01-04 Thread Jerry Johnson
Number, pound, sharp, village, hash, octothorp # (Hash mark is the unix/old geek term) On 1/4/07, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > kindergarten > firstgrade > chasing tail (you know the rest) > 1.6 gpa in highschool > 8 yrs later: > html > photoshop > ihtml > cfml >

RE: Going back in time

2007-01-04 Thread loathe
7 2:34 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Going back in time > > octothorpe = hash = pound sign = # = variable delimiter of ColdFusion > > > > > -- > Ian Skinner > Web Programmer > BloodSource > www.BloodSource.org > Sacramento, CA &g

RE: Going back in time

2007-01-04 Thread loathe
Array. > -Original Message- > From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 2:27 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Going back in time > > kindergarten > firstgrade > chasing tail (you know the rest) > 1.6 gpa in highschool >

RE: Going back in time

2007-01-04 Thread Ian Skinner
octothorpe = hash = pound sign = # = variable delimiter of ColdFusion -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA - | 1 | | - Binary Soduko | | | - "C code. C code run. Run code run. Please!" - Cynthia Dunning Confi

Re: Going back in time

2007-01-04 Thread Scott_A . _Stewart
amen brother. Scott A. Stewart REAC/PASS-IT (202)-475-8875 Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 01/04/2007 02:27 PM Please respond to cf-community To: CF-Community cc: (bcc: Scott A. Stewart/REAC/HHQ/HUD) Subject: Re: Going back in time kinder

Re: Going back in time

2007-01-04 Thread Charlie Griefer
> what the hell is a hash? it's an octothorpe :D -- Charlie Griefer "...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner,

Re: Going back in time

2007-01-04 Thread Tony
kindergarten firstgrade chasing tail (you know the rest) 1.6 gpa in highschool 8 yrs later: html photoshop ihtml cfml no formal anything. never got past algebra. what the hell is a hash? tw On 1/4/07, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You know, a hash... > > On 1/4/07, Tony <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Going back in time

2007-01-04 Thread Jerry Johnson
You know, a hash... On 1/4/07, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > octothorpe? > > please dont make me google something else today > ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 htt

Re: Going back in time

2007-01-04 Thread Tony
octothorpe? please dont make me google something else today On 1/4/07, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Out of control octothorpes and poor commenting were the hallmarks of my > early code. > > On 1/4/07, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > One nice thing about keeping all of the a

Re: Going back in time

2007-01-04 Thread G Money
Out of control octothorpes and poor commenting were the hallmarks of my early code. On 1/4/07, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One nice thing about keeping all of the apps I have written since I > started > with CF back in '96, I can go and look at that early code and think to > myself,

Re: Going back in time

2007-01-04 Thread Robert Bailey
Not so much with ColdFusion (my learning enviroment with CF was giuded by a few good developers), but I mostly do .NET and Java programming (maybe 20 percent CF anymore) and I have seen the same type of thing when looking at some of the older (we are talking 1.1 here) code I wrote that seem to over

Re: Going back in time

2007-01-04 Thread William Bowen
oh yes. declaring variables on every page of an application was one of my big issues... back in the day... On 1/4/07, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One nice thing about keeping all of the apps I have written since I started > with CF back in '96, I can go and look at that early

RE: Going Back

2006-11-04 Thread Scott_A . _Stewart
Please respond to cf-community To: CF-Community cc: (bcc: Scott A. Stewart/REAC/HHQ/HUD) Subject:RE: Going Back Yeah, well, from what I can tell the Army isn't really all that interested in me except as an infantryman, and I'm past that. So it's

RE: Going Back

2006-11-03 Thread Loathe
Actually, I got called back to go Civil Affairs so I think I'll be doing that for a year. Probably leave in Jan or Feb for school. > -Original Message- > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 12:14 PM > To: CF-Community > Sub

Re: Going Back

2006-11-03 Thread Larry Lyons
>Not with out a degree. > >> That's another route you may want to take. I'm not sure about the US system but in Canada, the Canadian military paid for most of my undergraduate education. You may want to check out something like that. If you want to server there are other ways. larry ~

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2006-11-03 Thread Gruss Gott
> tBone wrote: > Not with out a degree. > There's a university in Pittsburgh - it's fairly well known but I can't remember the name - anyway they've got a great online program that gives you college credits for IT experience and certifications. It's a great idea if you want the degree - you could

Re: Going Back

2006-11-03 Thread Scott_A . _Stewart
Yup, Cheney grew a sense of humor Scott A. Stewart REAC/PASS-IT (202)-475-8875 Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/02/2006 06:03 PM Please respond to cf-community To: CF-Community cc: (bcc: Scott A. Stewart/REAC/HHQ/HUD) Subject: Re: Going Back Yo

RE: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread loathe
Not with out a degree. > -Original Message- > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:59 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Going Back > > >Yeah, well, from what I can tell the Army isn't really all that >

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread Dana Tierney
advice we all should listen to I bet. Don't you know that bashing Bush makes baby Jesus cry? >> He was on Imus to bash Bush and was told to go home and shut up. >> Advice he should have listened to no matter where it came from. > >Ah, well there you go then... > >advice any politician should list

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread William Bowen
um... so did I. On 11/2/06, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No I didn't. I posted a article that discusses both sides. > > > On 11/2/06, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You say facts as if they're undisputed. > > > > So do you. > > > > Fact: Kerry received a bronze star > > Fact: T

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread Sam
You mean when he said "He was for the joke before he was against it" :) On 11/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cheney was speaking about it this morning. > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update.

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread Sam
No I didn't. I posted a article that discusses both sides. On 11/2/06, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You say facts as if they're undisputed. > > So do you. > > Fact: Kerry received a bronze star > Fact: The citation says it was for bravery under fire > Dispute: Other people, some w

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread William Bowen
> You say facts as if they're undisputed. So do you. Fact: Kerry received a bronze star Fact: The citation says it was for bravery under fire Dispute: Other people, some who were there, some not, say there was no gunfire. But the _fact_ remains that the citation says what it says and was approve

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread Sam
No, he didn;t address Kerry directly. On 11/2/06, Jerry Johnson wrote: > If he was smart enough to listen to Imus, he'd be president. > > And yes. I believe yesterday on his interview with Rush he repeated it again. > ~| Introdu

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread Larry Lyons
>Yeah, well, from what I can tell the Army isn't really all that interested >in me except as an infantryman, and I'm past that. > >So it's looking like I be sticking in code monkey land. > >> What about OCS? You'd make a kick ass officer. larry ~~~

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread Larry Lyons
>Gruss Gott wrote: > >Kerry was much like Al Gore, he simply has no idea how to be personable. > I was fortunate to meet and talk with Al Gore 3 years ago. In an individual or small group setting, he's about one of the most personable individuals I've met. From what I've seen when he's in larger

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread Scott_A . _Stewart
Cheney was speaking about it this morning. Scott A. Stewart REAC/PASS-IT (202)-475-8875 Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/02/2006 03:48 PM Please respond to cf-community To: CF-Community cc: (bcc: Scott A. Stewart/REAC/HHQ/HUD) Subject: Re: Goin

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread William Bowen
> He was on Imus to bash Bush and was told to go home and shut up. > Advice he should have listened to no matter where it came from. Ah, well there you go then... advice any politician should listen to... :-\ -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unac

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread Sam
He was on Imus to bash Bush and was told to go home and shut up. Advice he should have listened to no matter where it came from. On 11/2/06, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > He's a never been in my book. > > But you're recommending Kerry listen to him and STFU? > > ah... > -- > will >

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread William Bowen
> He's a never been in my book. But you're recommending Kerry listen to him and STFU? ah... -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~| Introducing the Fus

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread Sam
He's a never been in my book. On 11/2/06, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That grizzled ol'has been? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread Sam
You say facts as if they're undisputed. http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/k/kerry-swiftboats.htm Funny how out of 19 people on his boat only one or two support him. On 11/2/06, William Bowen wrote: > > Just one last thing. If you're biased because of what he did after the > war, that's one th

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread William Bowen
> Has Bush said anything about this in the last two days? > I know Kerry is still saying Bush should apologize. He should listen > to Imus and just shut up. Imus... BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! That grizzled ol'has been? -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that w

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread Jerry Johnson
If he was smart enough to listen to Imus, he'd be president. And yes. I believe yesterday on his interview with Rush he repeated it again. On 11/2/06, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has Bush said anything about this in the last two days? > I know Kerry is still saying Bush should apologize. He

RE: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread loathe
, but that's war. > -Original Message- > From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:40 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Going Back > > > I already said I am biased, I'm make no apologies for it. > > Well,

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread Sam
Has Bush said anything about this in the last two days? I know Kerry is still saying Bush should apologize. He should listen to Imus and just shut up. On 11/2/06, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course it is what he believes. He continues to say that Kerry > _meant_ that it was the t

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread William Bowen
> I already said I am biased, I'm make no apologies for it. Well, then I guess there's no point in trying to muddy up the water with facts... sorry I bothered. :-\ Just one last thing. If you're biased because of what he did after the war, that's one thing. And I completely understand... But if

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread Jerry Johnson
Of course it is what he believes. He continues to say that Kerry _meant_ that it was the troops lack of education that got them into Iraq. If Bush does not believe Kerry meant that, he should stop himself and his people from saying that is what Kerry meant. If he _does_ believe that is what Kerry

RE: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread loathe
I already said I am biased, I'm make no apologies for it. > -Original Message- > From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:22 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Going Back > > > Do you really think the Admiral

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread Sam
On 11/2/06, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think Bush _is_ intelligent. And since he is, there is no way he > actually believes that Kerry meant to insult the troops rather than > him. It's not a matter of what he believes. It's a matter of what the people in general believe and si

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread William Bowen
> Do you really think the Admiral was on the ground to witness something like > that? well now... You're purporting to believe guys that were not only on different boats, but many of whom were not involved in the actions described... as well as the words of a guy that also won a bronze star for th

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread Sam
It has nothing to do with partisanship. It has to do with respect. If you don't respect the military don't hide behind it. If you want to harm this country then you are fair game. I never said anything disrespectful about McCain's military services. I just don't agree with his politics. I would i

RE: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread loathe
Do you really think the Admiral was on the ground to witness something like that? Come on. > -Original Message- > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:00 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Going Back > > > tBone wro

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread Sam
My feeling, Senator, on Lieutenant Calley is what he did quite obviously was a horrible, horrible, horrible thing and I have no bone with the fact that he was prosecuted. But I think that in this question you have to separate guilt from responsibility, and I think clearly the responsibility for wha

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread Gruss Gott
> tBone wrote: > Even the sailors that served with him say he was a dirt bag officer. > Nothing says "dirtbag" likes this Silver Star write up by Vice Admiral Zumwalt: The citations

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread Jerry Johnson
Is he really defending the troops, or he _pretending_ to defend the troops against a statement he knows was never intended? If the former, kudos. I was actually with him in that the first day. If the latter, then he is a piece of poop, purposefully lying to make a political point. See, here is th

RE: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread loathe
st him said. I also rate him based on his performance in office, which has been terrible. > -Original Message- > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 2:51 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Going Back > > > Dana wrote: &

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread Jerry Johnson
grown up jail, that makes him a man. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 1:57 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Going Back > > > > From here in my dotage, that makes him a

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > The thing about these assertions of yours is that when I fact check them If that guy that just won the Silver Star should decide to run as a Democrat Sam and others will be right there telling us what a liar a piece of crap he is. They deliver all these histrionic platitudes about

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread Dana Tierney
The thing about these assertions of yours is that when I fact check them they almost never pan out. Shame I don't have time today. I have already spent too much time in here. > Kerry claimed that Lieutenant Calley was likely just following orders > and all soldiers were probably like him because

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread Dana Tierney
Do you know for a fact that they didn't happen? I am asking. You I might listen to on this. >He wasn't talking about My Lai. He made up other events that didn't happen >in order to push the liberal anti-war agenda of the peace movement. > >> ~

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2006-11-02 Thread Sam
Umm, Bush isn't running either. Kerry did this not Bush. Bush is defending the troops, I would expect no less form the Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces. On 11/2/06, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ah well. Kerry isn't even *running* and Bush still wants to use him as a > straw ma

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread William Bowen
n [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 1:57 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Going Back > > > > > The one that he wrote up himself for a scratch on his hand? > > > > Documentation? > > > > Self-recommenda

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread Dana Tierney
Dunno if you are talking to me. But my take on this is that Kerry did go, which gives him the right to talk about his experiences there, and the Roves of the world should shut the fuck up. You don't see me arguing with you about Afghanistan. >Man, you are seriously off about Kerry. > >Even th

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread Gruss Gott
> Loathe wrote: > Even the sailors that served with him say he was a dirt bag officer. > He's had crews stand up for him and stand up against him. We know the Navy stands by his medals, we know he volunteered to go to Vietnam despite an easy exemption in a cushy Ivy League school, and we know he

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2006-11-02 Thread Dana Tierney
I don't either and I am not sure how anyone can be *sure* it was all made up unless they want to be, for ideological reasons perhaps. And as Jerry points out, a number of people have changed their minds about a number of things since 1975... ah well. Kerry isn't even *running* and Bush still wa

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2006-11-02 Thread loathe
A kid old enough to kill and be killed. If he were a criminal he would go to grown up jail, that makes him a man. > -Original Message- > From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 1:57 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Going Back

RE: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread loathe
vember 02, 2006 1:57 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Going Back > > > The one that he wrote up himself for a scratch on his hand? > > Documentation? > > Self-recommendation is frowned upon is it not? > -- > will > > "If my life weren't funny, it

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread Sam
That's odd, Kerry just said the more troops we send, the more terrorists we create. Or something to that effect. On 11/2/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Because Kerry is saying that to make such a foolish decision as > invading Iraq with too few troops and bad intelligence and then >

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2006-11-02 Thread Jerry Johnson
>From here in my dotage, that makes him a kid. On 11/2/06, loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He wasn't a kid. He was an officer which means he was at least 22. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of

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2006-11-02 Thread William Bowen
> The one that he wrote up himself for a scratch on his hand? Documentation? Self-recommendation is frowned upon is it not? -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~~

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2006-11-02 Thread loathe
The one that he wrote up himself for a scratch on his hand? > -Original Message- > From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 1:33 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Going Back > > > He's not a decorated vet si

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2006-11-02 Thread loathe
He wasn't a kid. He was an officer which means he was at least 22. > -Original Message- > From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 1:28 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Going Back > > But does what he said and felt i

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2006-11-02 Thread loathe
ommunity > Subject: Re: Going Back > > the thing I don't understand is -- what is he was simply speaking the > truth? Why would it be more honorable to say nothing? I am really asking > here, not being sarcastic. It seems to be that the people who say Kerry > disgraced hi

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2006-11-02 Thread loathe
Man, you are seriously off about Kerry. Even the sailors that served with him say he was a dirt bag officer. > -Original Message- > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 12:54 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Going Back &

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread Sam
Kerry claimed that Lieutenant Calley was likely just following orders and all soldiers were probably like him because of tall the murders on American television and boot camp. On 11/2/06, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the thing I don't understand is -- what is he was simply speaking th

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2006-11-02 Thread Sam
You shouldn't hide behind the honor of something you have contempt for. On 11/2/06, William Bowen wrote: > > He's not a decorated vet since. He threw away his metals. > > did he give back the wound fo rhte purple heart too? > > regardless of what he did with the medals after the fact, it does not

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2006-11-02 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > If he was poking fun of Bush, why was make fun of his education when > Bush had slightly better grades in Yale and even went on to get an MBA > in Harvard. > Because Kerry is saying that to make such a foolish decision as invading Iraq with too few troops and bad intelligence and th

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2006-11-02 Thread William Bowen
> He's not a decorated vet since. He threw away his metals. did he give back the wound fo rhte purple heart too? regardless of what he did with the medals after the fact, it does not change the fact that they were recommended and later awarded. Were you to throw away your MCSE cert (supposing yo

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2006-11-02 Thread Jerry Johnson
But does what he said and felt in 1975 (as a kid right out of war) the same as what he thinks and says and feels now? I certainly have changed my mind on a number of subjects over the years, especially about items that once were painfully emotional, but that I can now apply perspective and thought

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2006-11-02 Thread Sam
Well if you insist. http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=10573 "The reason they had the joke in there was because of the crowd," the Kerry staffer says. "We'd told the office that there would be lots of MoveOn.org types, lots of young people at the event, so they gave him material to pla

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2006-11-02 Thread Rick Root
Gruss Gott wrote: >>Rick wrote: >>Kerry's problem is that he can't connect with Americans. Bush does. > > Can't disagree with you there although I would say that Kerry does > connect with me. I find him to be thoughtful and articulate in person > but he does have the usual corral of ridiculous f

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2006-11-02 Thread G Money
I dunno Dana. I've heard many servicemen say that his testimony exaggerated or even invented some of the atrocities. I don't know if that is true or not. A lot is perception, and Kerry's perception in the military doesn't seem very good, for whatever reason. On 11/2/06, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTE

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2006-11-02 Thread Dana Tierney
the thing I don't understand is -- what is he was simply speaking the truth? Why would it be more honorable to say nothing? I am really asking here, not being sarcastic. It seems to be that the people who say Kerry disgraced his uniform are assuming that there was no such thing as My Lai. Dana

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2006-11-02 Thread Gruss Gott
> Rick wrote: > Kerry's problem is that he can't connect with Americans. Bush does. Can't disagree with you there although I would say that Kerry does connect with me. I find him to be thoughtful and articulate in person but he does have the usual corral of ridiculous faux principled positions w

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2006-11-02 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
Yes, versus a president who went to war with a nation that did not possess wmd and then blamed it on bad intel from the cia and who has yet to apologize for spending hundreds of billions on said war. I can see a very clear delineation... On 11/2/06, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What he said

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2006-11-02 Thread Rick Root
Gruss Gott wrote: >>Sam wrote: >>the kind of person you think would make a great president? > > A decorated combat veteran who's not willing to take any sh1t from > people who avoided service during a time with 150,000 troops in > hostile territory? Kerry would've been a terrible president, if yo

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2006-11-02 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > the kind of person you think would make a great president? > A decorated combat veteran who's not willing to take any sh1t from people who avoided service during a time with 150,000 troops in hostile territory? Yeah.

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2006-11-02 Thread Sam
What he said was clearly offensive. The corrected version only offends the president. If Kerry explained what he meant from the beginning and apologized for leaving out a few key words it would have ended then. Instead he refused to apologize and blamed Bush for his messing up of the joke. In the e

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2006-11-02 Thread Jerry Johnson
Same thing. Looks who signs the checks for the Marines. *ducks and runs (and dodges bullets)* =) On 11/2/06, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He was in the navy, not the marines. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterl

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread G Money
On 11/2/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To have people that didn't serve in combat, and many didn't ever serve > in the military, purposely use his flub to make political hay should > be supremely offensive to anyone who's served! Judging from Loathe's comments, and the general reac

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread Gruss Gott
> gMoney wrote: > Cheney said "Kerry was for the joke before he was against it" *chuckle* > I hate to admit it, but THAT's hilarious! Poor Kerry. It's curtains for him. And I think for McCain too. And it's too bad because they were both swift boated and they both would of been great presidents

RE: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread Loathe
He was in the navy, not the marines. > -Original Message- > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 9:01 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Going Back > > > > JJ wrote: > > Pretending to be offended by a state

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread Gruss Gott
> JJ wrote: > Pretending to be offended by a statement you know someone didn't make > (that also hurts the feelings of the troops and their families), and > pretending that you really think the person holds that position is > _wrong_. Well said. And the worst part is that Kerry, like him or hate

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread G Money
Yeah, Ok. Since it came out what the joke was supposed to be, and the obvious flub, has the white house or republicans continued to suggest he believes the altered version, and not the original? If that's the case, honorless like you say. I haven't really been following it. Couple of hilarious q

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread Gruss Gott
> gMoney wrote: > Does it show desperation and a distinct lack of honor every time someone > uses one of Bush's language foul ups to smear him? > > Just curious. > Depends on the smear. If you're smearing him for a pattern flubs or being stupid for that specific flub then you're just calling it l

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread Jerry Johnson
I think there is a distinct difference between making fun of someone for a slip-of-the-tongue, and purposely misinterpreting a statement and implying someone believes something you don't think they do. Making fun of Bush's inability to vocalize a coherant thought is mean and petty. Pretending to

Re: Going Back

2006-11-02 Thread G Money
On 11/1/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It shows desperation and a distinct lack of honor. > Does it show desperation and a distinct lack of honor every time someone uses one of Bush's language foul ups to smear him? Just curious. -- "If I had a million dollars, I'd buy you an exo

Re: Going Back

2006-11-01 Thread Gruss Gott
> tBone wrote: > I just don't believe him anymore. I really used to feel he was honest, now > it's gone. > Mm Hm. +1. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion informa

Re: Going Back

2006-11-01 Thread Denny Valliant
There's also the issue of privilege... Bush used his money to get out of service, supposedly. You know, I read that "is our children learning" a little after bush got re-elected, and was pretty surprised to see how dope Gore was. That guy, I respect. If only he had been a little more public, and

RE: Going Back

2006-11-01 Thread Loathe
m [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 6:01 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Going Back > > > Kerry, McCain or both? > > On 11/1/06, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I gotta say, that dude pissed me off, yet agai

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