On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 5:20 AM, Robert Munn wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 6:20 PM, denstar wrote:
>
>> Ha! I was going to say you do the same thing, like surmising Judah
>> was a bush hater, although he's made it clear he ain't (at least not
>> rabidly, like some here, and as your comment mad
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 6:20 PM, denstar wrote:
> Ha! I was going to say you do the same thing, like surmising Judah
> was a bush hater, although he's made it clear he ain't (at least not
> rabidly, like some here, and as your comment made it seem like you
> think he is)
fair enough.
>
> I'm
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 6:20 PM, denstar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ha! I was going to say you do the same thing, like surmising Judah
> was a bush hater, although he's made it clear he ain't (at least not
> rabidly, like some here, and as your comment made it seem like you
> think he is).
Ssss
Ha! I was going to say you do the same thing, like surmising Judah
was a bush hater, although he's made it clear he ain't (at least not
rabidly, like some here, and as your comment made it seem like you
think he is).
I'm basing my comments off what you've said, both regarding the
wire-tapping (yo
This is the problem I have with many people on this list. You are arguing
with me based on a caricature of what you think a "conservative" is, and I
am a person with my own experiences and opinions.
I have been accused of many things on this list, all based on the beliefs of
the accusers, not on m
that is your assumption based on your personal bias and in no way reflects
my beliefs.
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 2:55 AM, denstar wrote:
>
> > I am suggesting the same course of action for both- investigate and
> > prosecute wrong-doing. Both issues are serious- one because it is a
> > subversion o
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Robert Munn wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Dana wrote:
>
>> see what I don't understand is that you extend this benefit of the
>> doubt to government agencies (with the record that they have!) but not
>> to individuals or to say ACORN. It may not be comf
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Dana wrote:
> see what I don't understand is that you extend this benefit of the
> doubt to government agencies (with the record that they have!) but not
> to individuals or to say ACORN. It may not be comfortable to realize
> that the government does not always h
One thing I can guarantee- whoever is elected next month is not going to tow
the line on the Bush Administration policies, and this whole gig will be one
of the first things that is investigated. McCain is a military guy, but he's
also a "rules apply to everyone" guy. Obama, obviously, has no love
investigate ACORN all you want. Apparently everyone else has ;) The
problem with NSA though is who can investigate it exactly? It wold
have been smarter never to give them that much power in the first
place.
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 13,
see what I don't understand is that you extend this benefit of the
doubt to government agencies (with the record that they have!) but not
to individuals or to say ACORN. It may not be comfortable to realize
that the government does not always have clean hasnd.s but come on,
let's recognize the trut
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 1:11 AM, denstar wrote:
> Oh, I got all that. Will's joke was LOL funny. :-P
>
> I just don't think your joke is very funny, due to the scary nature of
> the reality we are currently subscribed too.
>
My joke was clearly tongue-in-cheek.
>
> Do you honestly still beli
Oh, I got all that. Will's joke was LOL funny. :-P
I just don't think your joke is very funny, due to the scary nature of
the reality we are currently subscribed too.
Do you honestly still believe that only a select few people were listened-in on?
* * *
I'm telling you Rob, this stuff ain't
Maybe, Tim. I am not even going to try to figure out the
organizational chart. I don't have enough information. But the peple
who were very patronizingly sayig that people who were not terrorists
have nothing to fear need to be slapped.
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w
I don't think we should have an NSA. Or a CIA, DEA, ATF, DHS, or a
great many other federal agencies for this very reason.
While I do think we need the FBI, they are a perfect example of a
federal law enforcement agency gone wild, being caught in hundreds of
criminal violations in the first ye
Ok, heres the problem.
Later in the story they interview two other people that worked at the
same facility that both said the main source was full of it, and I don't
know what to think. I have known people that would stoop to making
something up to support their position, but I have also known
see? It will keep happening.
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Even then I'd imagine it would be difficult at best.
>
>
>
> Dana wrote:
>> hopefully somoene will investigate. Pretty tough to investigate the
>> NSA though. You pretty much have to be Congress I thi
Even then I'd imagine it would be difficult at best.
Dana wrote:
> hopefully somoene will investigate. Pretty tough to investigate the
> NSA though. You pretty much have to be Congress I think.
>
> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Ok, heres the problem.
>>
>
If they were told the rules had changed it's not on them. The question
is who was the first person in a position of authority to decide the
rules had changed.
Thats the guy that should get nailed.
Robert Munn wrote:
> So they broke the rules and should be punished. Easy enough.
>
> On Sat, Oc
hopefully somoene will investigate. Pretty tough to investigate the
NSA though. You pretty much have to be Congress I think.
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, heres the problem.
>
> Later in the story they interview two other people that worked at the
> same
So they broke the rules and should be punished. Easy enough.
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Dana wrote:
> more to the point though -- this is the program where if it was
> americans they were just going to hang up.
>
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fair enough, thanks for reading it.
Dana
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah, I agree and have a problem with this.
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Yeah, I agree and have a problem with this.
Dana wrote:
> more to the point though -- this is the program where if it was
> americans they were just going to hang up.
>
> Right. There's not even any joy in saying I told you so.
>
> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
more to the point though -- this is the program where if it was
americans they were just going to hang up.
Right. There's not even any joy in saying I told you so.
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> well it was. Red Cross workers, journalists. sigh. Let me find
well it was. Red Cross workers, journalists. sigh. Let me find
another link since you apparently didn't read the one.I posted
earlier.
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/10/kinne.html
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have to ask, what phones are we tal
I have to ask, what phones are we talking about?
The phones provided by MWR (moral welfare and recreation) are government
phones, the rooms have big signs saying you will be listened in on, the
computers have pop ups that inform you that all activity is monitored.
If you are talking about priva
you sure? Seems they have been listening to phone sex between service
men and their wives. I don't know how you condone this stuff. I really
don't.
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The joke started with me telling Sam the PC police were coming to get him.
>
The joke started with me telling Sam the PC police were coming to get him.
Will pointed out that it was better than warrantless wiretappers, who are
real, while the PC police are fictional. I concluded with the wiretap on
Obama joke as a bookend to the PC police joke. No one is going to tap
Obama's
I've been reading along, my man. =]
Had that typed up a few days ago.
Guess I missed the joke, though.
--
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Henri Frederic Amiel
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Robert Munn wrote:
> or maybe the context. :-)
>
> On Sat, Oct 11,
or maybe the context. :-)
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Robert wrote:
>
>
> You've been away too long, you missed the connotation of the joke.
>
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On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 9:58 AM, denstar wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Robert Munn wrote:
> > And I suppose they would be listing in if Obama were on the phone to
> Muslim
> > terrorists overseas. :-P
>
> You are sooo wrong on this, and you *should* know it.
>
You've been away to
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Robert Munn wrote:
> And I suppose they would be listing in if Obama were on the phone to Muslim
> terrorists overseas. :-P
You are sooo wrong on this, and you *should* know it.
* * *
Yet you're scared of Socialism.
Really?
Really!?!
Are you /serious/?
-
>>
>> McCain is looking a hell of a lot like the exact same candidate right
>> down to the core psychology: showing daddy he's all growed up.
>>
>
>LOL! Another lame attempt to link Bush and McCain. People know who McCain is
>and they know he is nothing like Bush.
Actually not. McCain had a lot of
>I didn't have a problem with it then, and I don't have a problem with
>that sort of thing now.
>
>Some ideologies are diametrically apposed to our system of government,
>communism is only one of them. I like knowing things like that about
>people in positions of power.
>
So using the same sor
But let's not pick on Democratic Senator Robert Byrd.
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Robert Munn wrote:
> You mean the Senate? So is Barack Obama, natch.
>
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You mean the Senate?
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John McCain is a member of an organization with collegues who once
> belonged to the KKK. Why isn't he explaining that?
>
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> First Ayers use
You mean the Senate? So is Barack Obama, natch.
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Maureen wrote:
> John McCain is a member of an organization with collegues who once
> belonged to the KKK. Why isn't he explaining that?
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John McCain is a member of an organization with collegues who once
belonged to the KKK. Why isn't he explaining that?
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> First Ayers used bombs, now he uses words to try to overthrow the
> government by radicalizing children. I want to
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 2:39 PM, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> His regret was that he didn't do more!
>
> "...to stop America's involvement in Vietnam"... finish the quote Sam.
That's why he bombed the Pentagon. He was a domestic terrorist that
blew things up to stop America from its
> I guess you need to better understand the debate process.
i'm clear on the rules of debate.
>> I think it actually doesn't reflect on Obama's character to associate
>> with Ayers, nor do i think it reflects on the character of any of the
>> other dozens of people that *also* served on the same
"What we have learned over this year is that hope is making a
comeback. It is making a comeback. And let me tell you something --
for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my
country.
So now, she likes America. Proof that someone around him does.
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 2:18 P
most not... feed... trolls
dammit
how did we go from "none of the people around him" like america
to
"his wife"
hmm
I know I am bringing logic to a stupid fight, but still
argh. Closing email client now, losing IQ points reading this stuff
and I have too much to do anyway...
On Tue, O
What do Barack Obama and Osama bin Laden have in common?
They both have friends who bombed the Pentagon.
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I guess you don't follow the news.
>
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Billy Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> One has to w
I guess you don't follow the news.
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Billy Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One has to wonder how a dangerous 'terrorist' like Ayers has managed to
> avoid capture in the war on terrorism. If this is the best ammunition that
> Palin has on Obama, then this thing is ov
I need a little more info.
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Sam wrote:
>> I never claimed that. I thought we were discussing his associates and
>> how that reflects on his character.
>>
>
> McCain supports tax cuts for Ayers. What about that?
>
~~~
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:19 PM, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I never claimed that.
> Yes you do, every day.
I guess you need to better understand the debate process.
> I think it actually doesn't reflect on Obama's character to associate
> with Ayers, nor do i think it reflects on
on Obama, then this thing is over.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 3:20 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin
>
>
>
> I think it ac
heh
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And I suppose they would be listing in if Obama were on the phone to Muslim
> terrorists overseas. :-P
>
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:21 PM, William wrote:
>
>> > the politically correct police are coming to take you away
October 07, 2008 3:20 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin
I think it actually doesn't reflect on Obama's character to associate with
Ayers, nor do i think it reflects on the character of any of the other
dozens of people that *also* served o
And I suppose they would be listing in if Obama were on the phone to Muslim
terrorists overseas. :-P
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:21 PM, William wrote:
> > the politically correct police are coming to take you away now.
>
> better pc police than the warrantless wiretappers of washington. the
> form
> Sam wrote:
> I never claimed that. I thought we were discussing his associates and
> how that reflects on his character.
>
McCain supports tax cuts for Ayers. What about that?
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> the politically correct police are coming to take you away now.
better pc police than the warrantless wiretappers of washington. the
former don't exist, the latter do.
:-)
--
will
"If my life weren't funny, it would just be true;
and that would just be unacceptable."
- Carrie Fisher
~~~
>> Why is everything said against Obama automatically the truth, Sam?
>
> I never claimed that.
Yes you do, every day.
> I thought we were discussing his associates and
> how that reflects on his character.
I think it actually doesn't reflect on Obama's character to associate
with Ayers, nor do
the politically correct police are coming to take you away now.
On 10/7/08, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 12:20 PM, William Bowen
>> Why is everything said against Obama automatically the truth, Sam?
>
> I never claimed that. I thought we were discussing his associates an
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 12:20 PM, William Bowen
> Why is everything said against Obama automatically the truth, Sam?
I never claimed that. I thought we were discussing his associates and
how that reflects on his character.
> I judge that you and your Republican allies are attempting to smear
> Oba
> Why is everything said against Obama an outright lie?
Why is everything said against Obama automatically the truth, Sam?
> Have you now sense of judgment?
As a matter of fact I do have a sense of judgment, then, now and it'll
continue into the future.
I judge that you and your Republican alli
I agree. Nonetheless. He plays to that too, to the point where he
always always wears a blue short when me makes an appearance, ever
notice that?
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've never understood people who thought that.
>
> He's totally from the NE old mon
hussein?
> Not that Hussein is a terrorist but he rubs shoulders with them.
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Why is everything said against Obama an outright lie?
Have you now sense of judgment?
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:20 AM, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Why do you keep saying charity when you mean communism?
>
> Because he *does* mean charities.
>
> That you (Sam)* subscribe to the "re
> Why do you keep saying charity when you mean communism?
Because he *does* mean charities.
That you (Sam)* subscribe to the "repeat-a-lie-often-enough" of the
month club, does not mean he (Gruss)* does.
* = parenthetical notation for the personal pronoun usage challenged.
--
will
"If my life
Why do you keep saying charity when you mean communism?
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Sam wrote:
>> It's all about judgment. You can tell a lot about people by the crowd
>> they run with.
>
> Yeah! That's why we don't want these people who give to chari
> Sam wrote:
> It's all about judgment. You can tell a lot about people by the crowd
> they run with.
Yeah! That's why we don't want these people who give to charity and
hang out in charity circles. That's the kind of service to country we
just don't need.
We want people like McCain who hang ou
> Dana wrote:
> don't forget his middle name :)
>
Sidney?
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It's all about judgment. You can tell a lot about people by the crowd
they run with.
Not that Hussein is a terrorist but he rubs shoulders with them.
The important lesson here is most of his friends are anti-American and
communist.
That's scary.
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Dana <[EMAIL PR
I've never understood people who thought that.
He's totally from the NE old money skull and bones background.
Dana wrote:
> that was after the election though. He ran as "average Joe." ::snicker::
>
> On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Thats not true, it was cer
yeah, just look at the time and energy devoted to this thread.
Here is the way I look at it, in case anyone cares. I do not know what
Obama thinks of Ayers, or for that matter what he should think of
Ayers. I know my beliefs include redemption, though I am not sure
Ayers needs it --- if anyone die
that was after the election though. He ran as "average Joe." ::snicker::
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thats not true, it was certainly around, Michael Moore's movie, some
> play on the national news. Maybe not down there but here for sure.
>
> Vivec wrote:
>
personally I did not hear about this till Fahrenheit
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 7:10 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I remember it coming up in the press, didn't seem to get much play though.
>
> I'm not a fan of the Bush family. Too old money, weird group conspiracy
> theory for me.
>
> Mich
don't forget his middle name :)
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> RoMunn wrote:
>> And what do we have in Barack Obama? A guy who owes his entire career to
>> influence-peddling in the Chicago political machine.
>>
>
> Plus he fathered 2 black babies. And e
Another distraction? Can't you stay focused:)
So you're saying the press can't disrupt an event? Or the only time
they know to ask questions to fans is during her speech?
Back on topic, what did you think of the lies you've been spreading.
Obama didn't know he was a terrorist.
Obama barely knew h
> RoMunn wrote:
> And what do we have in Barack Obama? A guy who owes his entire career to
> influence-peddling in the Chicago political machine.
>
Plus he fathered 2 black babies. And eats kittens.
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> Sam wrote:
> CNN actually covered it.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvROBLortBQ
>
>
Well, as much as reporters are allowed to cover Palin events given
they can't speak with her, her staff, or even anyone attending the
events:
CLEARWATER -- Constantly under the watchful eyes of security, the
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Maureen wrote:
>
> McCain had close associations with Keating. Much closer than Obama
> had with Ayers. Close enough to be included in the case, whether he
> should have been or not. Even McCain has admitted his ties to Keating
> gave the appearance of impropriet
Wow, I hadn't seen that clip, the boos were excellent.
Sam wrote:
> CNN actually covered it.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvROBLortBQ
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 6:09 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> tBone wrote:
>>> Obama wasn't working a foreign internal defense mission in Af
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Maureen wrote:
>
>> For every crook or crazy preacher in Obama's background, I produce a
>> list of equally undesirable people in McCain's background, starting
>> with Keating and Falwell. It d
CNN actually covered it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvROBLortBQ
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 6:09 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> tBone wrote:
>> Obama wasn't working a foreign internal defense mission in Afghanistan,
>> he was working some garbage in Chicago.
>>
>> Look man, I'm sure
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Maureen wrote:
> For every crook or crazy preacher in Obama's background, I produce a
> list of equally undesirable people in McCain's background, starting
> with Keating and Falwell. It doesn't matter.
>
Keating is a red herring, the prosecutor in the case said
For every crook or crazy preacher in Obama's background, I produce a
list of equally undesirable people in McCain's background, starting
with Keating and Falwell. It doesn't matter.
What matters is whether they have a plan to solve the problems going
forward, not who they were having coffee with
> tBone wrote:
> Obama wasn't working a foreign internal defense mission in Afghanistan,
> he was working some garbage in Chicago.
>
> Look man, I'm sure everyone else is sick of reading this by now
Well I'm writing this to understand how I feel about the issue and now I know.
It's no different.
I'm not saying it doesn't exist.
What I am saying is that we have always had a bad rap for racism on the
international stage. Slavery and the civil rights chaos of the last
century ensured that.
Now however it is far less prevalent not only than it was here, but then
it is in most foreign cou
Nah man, different.
Obama wasn't working a foreign internal defense mission in Afghanistan,
he was working some garbage in Chicago.
Look man, I'm sure everyone else is sick of reading this by now, we
aren't going to change each others mind.
All the candidates are political. Thats the truth of
So why is it such a big deal and 'historic' if it isn't an issue?
Racism is an issue in the US, just as it is in Europe and most other countries.
2008/10/7 Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Yeah man, you're right we're terrible, I mean our next president is
> likely to be black.
> tBone wrote:
> Ok you lost me on that one.
>
> I already knew that story :)
>
The Delta commander focused on getting the job done and the job was to
kill Bin Laden. Thus when he needed help from people to do it he took
volunteers and didn't bother googling those volunteers.
The theory, you see
Yeah man, you're right we're terrible, I mean our next president is
likely to be black. You see that happening in England? Germany,
France? When Germany elects someone from a Turkish Muslim background
we'll talk.
Vivec wrote:
> I wouldn't ask, because that wasn't my point at all.
>
> Americ
I wouldn't ask, because that wasn't my point at all.
America is right up there with Racism though, if that's what you are
referring to.
It's in every single country you go to, just in various degrees.
And some like the British have gotten very very good at hiding it,
and being very subtle.
2008/1
Ask someone who grew up on the dole in England or Ireland if they
believe that class separations exist and are real.
Ask a gypsy or a Muslim.
Vivec wrote:
> "I don't want to live in Europe or Canada. I want to live in the United
> States of America. Where a man can start from nothing and becom
"I don't want to live in Europe or Canada. I want to live in the United
States of America. Where a man can start from nothing and become a
billionaire. Or president, or a Navy SEAL or nothing at all. "
Reality check.
That is a myth. And, you can do the same thing and more in Europe.
The spect
sometimes I wish we could filter threads
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:37 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If I was a politician going to a fund raiser to be presented as the
> heir-apparent to my local state delegate/senator, I would make damn sure I
> knew where we were going, who wa
If I was a politician going to a fund raiser to be presented as the
heir-apparent to my local state delegate/senator, I would make damn sure I
knew where we were going, who was going to be there, and at least have an
idea about who the people are.
Obama clearly knew about Ayers and his background
Teaching communism to kids isn't the same as building homes for poor
folk, at least not in my book.
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Agreed, but when it comes to charity if that offender is willing to
> work building homes for charity should we prevent him
Ok you lost me on that one.
I already knew that story :)
Been big conversation on socnet.
Gruss Gott wrote:
>> tBone wrote:
>> More like because you did that I don't want you around me and will shun you.
>>
>
> But what does that do except punish you and the charity target?
>
> "you did some b
> tBone wrote:
> More like because you did that I don't want you around me and will shun you.
>
But what does that do except punish you and the charity target?
"you did some bad shit 30 years ago and the law now says you're free.
But even so you can't build this Alzheimer's state fair booth for f
More like because you did that I don't want you around me and will shun you.
Gruss Gott wrote:
>> tBone wrote:
>> 1st, you aren't running for president. I know shady people, I've done
>> shady stuff. I'm sure most of us here can say the same. We're supposed
>> to expect more from those people t
> tBone wrote:
> 1st, you aren't running for president. I know shady people, I've done
> shady stuff. I'm sure most of us here can say the same. We're supposed
> to expect more from those people that are seeking public office.
>
He is now, he wasn't then. If you follow the time line he was jus
1st, you aren't running for president. I know shady people, I've done
shady stuff. I'm sure most of us here can say the same. We're supposed
to expect more from those people that are seeking public office.
Frankly, I also want to know if another den leader was a criminal, was a
communist or
> tBone wrote:
> Jesus, I google people I just hear of, let alone meet, all the time.
>
I hate to say it, but I might have to start doing that, but it still
seems ridiculous.
I mean at point in charity work do you say that you don't give a shit
what the person DID, it's what they're doing now.
M
Ah, sorry, I thought you were saying I was making that up.
BTW, anyone want to buy some popcorn?
Sam wrote:
> ??
> I meant GG's version of comparing Ayers/Obama to a passing a Boy Scout
> leader at WalMart.
>
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> You want picture
I can understand your fear, but I don't share it. I think she's like
most of the Christians I know, more show than go.
I also know that she's done things that were contrary to her personal
beliefs (gay rights for one) that were the right thing to do considering
her office and the law and the c
Jesus, I google people I just hear of, let alone meet, all the time.
Robert Munn wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Gruss wrote:
>
>> But the point is, you don't know dick about Chicago, its "circles",
>> the size of the "circles", or who knows about whom.
>>
>
> So you are saying that Oba
I love his show. Haven't heard it in forever.
Gruss Gott wrote:
>> tBone wrote:
>> Without his signature I can't run one.
>>
>
> Well Ayers turned himself in, but has never been convicted or even charged.
>
> However you might want to check into this guy who we KNOW spent 4-1/2
> years in priso
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