Hi all,
I'm writing to ask if there might be any way of persuading the current
cin2 developers to add frei0r plugin support to the current Cinelerra.
I know that frei0r support is on the todo list for cin3, but this could
be years off.
frei0r is a very simple plugin API. For those already up to
On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 11:51 +, Dylan Botha wrote:
> Good Day
>
> My name is Dylan, I do IT work for a Film Director named Jurgen Alan
> ( www.jurgenalan.com/ )
> We have had an interest in Linux for a long time (Debian mainly) and
> watching the progression of video editing for sometime now
>
On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 14:10 +0200, Herman Robak wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 05:26:54 +0200, Graham Evans
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If the codec returns uncompressed 4:2:0 or 4:1:1 data, then the temporary
> shouldn't just repeat the colour pixels in a 2x2 or 4x1 pattern. That's
> no
Hi folks,
I thought I'd report on this list a recent discussion with cehteh about
the Cin chroma-key plugins.
As I mentioned to cehteh, I've been working on y4m, a python-based
framework for scripted video editing.
With just half an hour's work, I was able to come up with a chromakey
plugin for
On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 03:47 +0200, Stefan de Konink wrote:
> > I've released an intial, alpha, proof-of-concept (but working) version
> > of 'yuvgimp', which allows yuv4mpeg streams to be processed
> > automatically in GIMP, one frame at a time.
>
> Isn't such thing not 'natively' implemented in p
Hi all,
This could be of interest to Cinelerra users, since Cin offers the
option to render out yuv4mpegpipe video.
I've released an intial, alpha, proof-of-concept (but working) version
of 'yuvgimp', which allows yuv4mpeg streams to be processed
automatically in GIMP, one frame at a time.
So fr
Hi,
If I have a Cin project set at 25fps, and I have a clip on the timeline
which is 50fps progressive, and a 'fields to frames' on that track
converting the 50fps progressive to 25fps interlaced, will the 'fields
to frames' effect receive 50fps from the clip? Or, will the clip be
frame-dropped to
Hi,
Does anyone know of any nix-compatible tools which can objectively
measure the quality loss of video caused by various types of
compression/manipulation?
One way I can think of is sum of squares of pixel YUV or RGB
differences. How effective would this really be? Are there better ways?
For ex
On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 08:29 +1200, David McNab wrote:
> I'm having trouble with 'batch render'.
Ignore this - Raffa very kindly helped me through it on #cinelerra.
Cheers
David
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Hi all,
I'm having trouble with 'batch render'.
(I'm using cinelerra svn, just a couple of days old, with the recent ogg
import fix)
What I've done, closely following the Cinelerra manual, is:
- exported an EDL file for my video track
- in the batch render dialog:
- added this edl to the b
On Sun, 2007-09-02 at 15:34 +0100, Bruno Miguel wrote:
> Hello.
> I compiled, yesterday, Cinelerra from CVS in Debian Sid without any
> major problems. Now I want to playback a project, but the playback is
> terribly slow.
Try setting background rendering. Can be a huge comfort in some
situations.
Hi all,
I managed today to get some ideas down on virtual paper, towards what
could be a good high-level architecture for cinv3:
www.freenet.org.nz/misc/cin3-architecture.pdf
Thoughts?
Cheers
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On Sat, 2007-08-25 at 10:41 +0800, Martin Ellison wrote:
> But anyway, what is wrong with switches?
You find out soon enough if you've got a big switch in a tight
time-critical loop.
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4. Have some synchronisation, such as a global bool flag, so
the main thread can test if the child thread is done
Cheers
David
> - Original Message
> From: David McNab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
> Sent: Friday, 24 Augu
On Sat, 2007-08-25 at 09:42 +1200, David McNab wrote:
> In a multi-thread environment such as Cin, you have to change from the
> 'read/eval loop' to an 'eval-on-Enter handler'.
Oh, I forgot to mention - FICL supports this perfectly. It has a
function to evaluate an arbit
On Fri, 2007-08-24 at 21:09 +, Mark Carter wrote:
> 24.3 Invoking the FICL REPL
> “REPL” is the read-eval-print-loop, which allows you to interact with
> Cinelerra from the console. To start the REPL, select menu item File >
> Ficl Repl. This will cause Cinelerra to “freeze” as it drops down t
ly prefer 'C with basic OO'.
Cheers
David
> But anyways, it's probably better if we just agree to disagree. ;)
>
> - Original Message
> From: David McNab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
> Sent: Friday, 24 August, 2007 9:37:05 AM
>
all just be easier in C".
>
> It would be nice to use a really high programming language, but we
> live in a C world.
>
>
> - Original Message
> From: David McNab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
> Sent: Friday, 24 August, 2007 2:05:
a panacea for
large projects, but if well used can take away a lot of pain.
> On 24/08/07, David McNab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-08-23 at 19:57 +, Mark Carter wrote:
> > It's also why I'm trying to convince people to stop using C
>
On Thu, 2007-08-23 at 19:57 +, Mark Carter wrote:
> It's also why I'm trying to convince people to stop using C++ - C is
> just easier to interface with.
I find it way easier to wrap over C than C++, but with the cost of
implementing stuff in C just to benefit wrapping, it's like the tail
tryi
Hi all,
Further to earlier announcement of the 'framerate' script (a bit of
python glue which does some plumbing on yuvmotionfps and ffmpeg to give
a front end which lets you convert video of one format with one
framerate to same or different format with different framerate, with
motion interpolat
Hi,
Would it be possible to mention #openvideo on the Cin homepage,
alongside the existing mention of #cinelerra?
#openvideo feels like a better forum for non-Cinelerra-specific
discussion than #cinelerra-chat.
If the homepages of other video editing progs to the same, then
#openvideo could beco
On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 12:09 +0800, Martin Ellison wrote:
> You can always use Blender.
Agreed.
Tactical nuclear warheads are known to be very effective for removing
tree-stumps. ;P
Cheers
David
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On Mon, 2007-08-20 at 12:38 +0100, Mark Carter wrote:
> As regards scripting interface - I have begun interfacing with ficl.
> I'm beginning to wonder if ECL (Embedded Common Lisp) might be a
> really good thing to use - you get all the high levelness of Lisp,
> with the integrabitlity with C
Hi,
I'm seriously thinking of getting a bunch of free/cheap old boxen to use
as Cin render farm nodes. A few questions come to mind:
1) Compiling - is there a way of ./configure-ing and compiling a Cin
renderfarm node, such that it doesn't need X or any graphical libs? I'm
preferring to have the
On Mon, 2007-08-20 at 16:43 -0700, Christian Einfeldt wrote:
> hi,
>
> I need a little help transcoding IL'dar AKHmetgaleev's excellent short
> documentary film called "Mansour" from .ogg to .mpg for inclusion in
> the Digital Tipping Point Video Collection. Unfortunately, the
> transcoding has
Hi all,
After struggling with the limitations of the 'Title' plugin, I just
tried out an idea for getting more professional-looking scrolling
credits working in Cin (came to me when I was drifting off to sleep last
night).
Straightforward process, using 100% open source tools and a simple
3-step
On Mon, 2007-08-20 at 10:11 +0200, Adrian Prantl wrote:
> > Just following up on some discussion on IRC about CinV3 options,
> > here's
> > a hypothetical example based on the concept of 'libcinelerra', the
> > main
> > video editing engine, on top of which any gui is very thin and very
> > cle
Hi,
Just following up on some discussion on IRC about CinV3 options, here's
a hypothetical example based on the concept of 'libcinelerra', the main
video editing engine, on top of which any gui is very thin and very
cleanly separated.
Cheers
David
$ gcc -c myprog.c
$ gcc -o mypro
Hi,
It would be great if the Title video plugin could support a rich-text
editor, allowing text attributes like font, colour, size etc to be
applied to individual portions of text, like with a word processor.
As it is, it has a plain-text editor, and the attributes apply to the
whole of the text.
Hi,
I'm wondering if the IRC logging could benefit from auto-segmenting, to
make it easier to search.
How it could work is that a new file gets started if one of the
following occurs:
- file size grows over (say) 4k, AND more than 10 minutes elapses
without a post (apart from join/leave/away/
On Mon, 2007-08-13 at 21:41 +0100, mark carter wrote:
> Feel free to drool now ;)
Why not publish your proposed final cinelerra-forth wordlist. That could
get me drooling ;)
Cheers
David
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On Mon, 2007-08-13 at 13:00 +0800, Martin Ellison wrote:
> Who knows, I may even go one better and write the code in an
> intermediate layer which spits out back ends - one of them C,
> one of
> them ficl, and make it generic enough that you can tailor it.
>
Hi all,
At present, there's only one Cinelerra-related channel on IRC, which is
serving multiple purposes as development discussion, help and general
chat.
As Cobra has expressed, there's a conflict between these purposes, with
developers logging #cinelerra and using that to keep up to date with
On Sun, 2007-08-12 at 12:21 -0400, Kevin Brosius wrote:
> On 2007-08-11 22:32, Jonas Wulff wrote:
>
> > The problem now is that unfourtunately we don't have the webspace
> > available to host the movie itself :( We planned an online
> > 'release' (sounds bigger than it is) under CC but somehow did
Hi all,
I've written a little utility script called 'framerate', which wraps up
all the yuv encoding/decoding and yuvmotionfps invocation and final
encoding for the motion-estimating re-timer I mentioned earlier.
http://www.freenet.org.nz/misc/framerate.py
Usage example:
$ framerate -r 25 -b
On Sat, 2007-08-11 at 23:54 +0200, Herman Robak wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 23:28:35 +0200, David McNab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 2007-08-11 at 23:17 +0200, Herman Robak wrote:
> ...
> >> Please consider if the motion estimation software wri
On Sat, 2007-08-11 at 23:17 +0200, Herman Robak wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 11:34:27 +0200, David McNab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 2007-08-11 at 17:04 +0800, Graham Evans wrote:
> >> **wish list**
> >> Wouldn't it be great if
On Sat, 2007-08-11 at 15:15 +0100, mark carter wrote:
> Exciting stuff (for me anyway), but I've managed to get a scripting
> interface going in Cinelerra. It could open up a world of possibilities
> for user scripting, building compound effects, whatever.
>
> What I've got working so far is a men
On Sat, 2007-08-11 at 17:04 +0800, Graham Evans wrote:
> **wish list**
> Wouldn't it be great if this could be modified into a cinelerra plug in...
I'd do it, except I'm so far behind on so many projects that I can't
afford the time for the learning curve and for adapting yuvmotionfps
into the Cin
On Sat, 2007-08-11 at 02:24 -0500, Derek McTavish Mounce wrote:
> Thank you for finding this!
It's the least I can do to give back to the Cin devs and community, as
thanks for all the hard slog they've put into writing such an excellent
video NLE.
> In my fairly recent switch from
> Windows+Aft
Hi,
Following up on an earlier post (I've been searching for something which
can lift the framerate of my video, and interpolate the motion between
frames).
After several days on and off searching and trying stuff, I've found
something that seems to work.
http://jcornet.free.fr/linux/yuvmotionfp
Hi,
I'm looking to get a second-hand 3ccd camera, and am currently feeling
drawn to the Panasonic NV-GSxxx models, mainly because they're
reasonably affordable, well-supported and have the 3ccd system.
On the local auction site, I can see a few - mainly GS120, GS180 and
GS230, sitting around the
On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 12:03 +0200, Herman Robak wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 09:02:06 +0200, Raffaella Traniello
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> From the Manual:
> > "Cinelerra is not intended for consumers. [...]
>
> I consider that a bug, and I believe that some of the frustration
> tha
Hi,
Can anyone recommend any software for linux which can do reasonable
detection/interpolation of motion to help bring low framerate video up
to speed?
Cheers
David
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On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 19:42 +0100, mark carter wrote:
> I'm new to Cinelerra - and yeah, it is difficult to learn. What doesn't
> help it is its instability.
Ahhh, but you forget cin's Major Saving Grace: 'Load From Backup' :)
Cheers
David
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Hi,
My mind has often turned to the subject of plugins for Cinelerra, and
how to make this a true killer feature.
I'd like to suggest a change to the plugin architecture - allow
dynamically loaded plugins, compiled separately from Cinelerra.
I notice that part of Cin's installation is a director
On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 21:19 +0100, mark carter wrote:
> In my travels I came across Open Movie Editor. There's a demo of it over
> on YouTube:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ljEb1PdEdM
> The main website is:
> http://openmovieeditor.sourceforge.net/HomePage
> A cinelerra beater, perhaps??
I th
l learning to film myself),
but if you're willing to help and can mail me off-list, I'll put it up
somewhere.
Cheers
David
>
> On 8/3/07, David McNab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've got a camera which shoots ok for the most part, but
Hi all,
I've got a camera which shoots ok for the most part, but when there's a
lot of movement, the video falls way behind (0.75secs approx) for a few
seconds, then catches back up. It's like the camera's software is too
slow or something. In a 4 minute clip, I see about 3 instances of this.
Is
On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 21:15 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hey folks,
> What software are people using to capture screen activity (ie,
> starting programs, opening windows, etc in Gnome)? I'm interested in
> integrating captures of web browser activity into a Cinelerra project
> and wondered wh
On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 02:04 +0530, Camille Harang wrote:
> i am currently shooting a documentary about
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janadesh_2007 in India. But i met there
> Tibetans hunger striking against Beijing Olympics, i made a short
> documentary/interview (with subtitles) in french and en
Hi,
Are there any plans to support a scripting interface for Cinelerra in
the future?
For example, a Python API which presents the timeline, tracks, edits,
frames etc as objects, with a rich set of methods for operating on them?
One reason why I ask:
I'm looking at leveraging the power of GIMP
Hi,
Suppose I've recorded simultaneously with 2 DV cameras and an audio mic
into the soundcard, and that these three sources are not electronically
synchronised (no SMPTE cables etc).
Then, on loading the 2 video and the 1 audio track into Cin, and syncing
them up at the beginning to the clackerb
On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 15:53 +0200, Valentina Messeri wrote:
> you can export:
>
> FileFormat quicktime4linux vcodec dv/acodec two complements
>
> then use directly ffmpeg to encode dvd-format compatiblesmtg like:
>
> ffmpeg -i input.mov -target pal-dvd -aspect 4:3 output.mpg
>
> ciao!
Hey,
Hi,
I'm producing some 5-minute instructional vids.
For source, I'm using 320x240 quicktime files.
Target is PAL DVD, 720x576
I've zoomed the projector to enlarge 320x240 to 720x576. This cuts out a
bit of frame to the left and right, but that's ok.
For rendering, I'm using the recipe for Cine
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