Also, are you doing it via "one arm routing" or do you have separate
interfaces in each vlan?
( fa0/0 in vlan or lan x, fa0/1 in vlan or lan y, etc., etc. )
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/779/smbiz/service/knowledge/wan/subifs.htm
You should definitely use sub-interfaces though.. ( Referen
It's funny that we are seeing this message after seeing all those complaints
about the CCDP recert exam including AppleTalk! :-)
=?WINDOWS-1255?Q?=F7=E5=F8=EF__=EC=E1 wrote:
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> Does anyone have an idea on that:
> we use 7200 in the center of a big bay-networks routers
> we use ipx , ip and apple
You should at least understand the basics of AppleTalk either way. Now on
my production CIT test I had no AppleTalk questions.
--
"Through Complexity there is Simplicity,
Through Simplicity there is Complexity"
David L. Blair - CCNP, CCNA, MCSE, CBE, CIW Associat
You will want to know and understand the fundamentals of Appletalk.
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Well, it's time fo
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Used: $14.99 (From Amazon.com)
Kurt's methods are great. His co-author was more writer than tech.
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>Thanks.
>Joe Quezada
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>The Macs
gets the right network and
node number. Is there a cache on the Mac?
Thanks.
Joe Quezada
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> >
> > Are the AppleTalk nodes in the same hub as the router? Are
> > you sure there's
> > not a switch in the way somewhere
what OS are they running?
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> Are the AppleTalk nodes in the same hub as the
ideas.
>
>Thank you.
>Joe Quezada
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>From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 12:24 PM
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>Are the AppleTalk devices
:24 PM
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Are the AppleTalk devices on a switch? This smells like a portfast problem.
Enable portfast on the switch ports, and I suspect the problem will go away.
I think that what's happening is that when the newly b
Are the AppleTalk devices on a switch? This smells like a portfast problem.
Enable portfast on the switch ports, and I suspect the problem will go away.
I think that what's happening is that when the newly booted AppleTalk
stations send their ZIPGetNetInfo packet to find out the actual network
Etherpeek used to
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> Is there an free/shareware software that can tell me the name/IP address
of
> the device if I know the AppleTalk address? Or a device that will listen
to
> the network and show me the AppleTalk a
thank you priscilla ...
i have been trying to understand this for weeks and you have FINALLY helped
me figure it out
CU
steve
>From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer"
>Reply-To: "Priscilla Oppenheimer"
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Appletalk Zone filtering [
When a Macintosh pulls up the Chooser, the Mac sends out a request to get
zones. A router responds. You can tell the router not to respond with a
GetZoneList filter.
When a router learns from another router about a new network, the router
asks the other router for the zones associated with tha
Y'know, Priscilla, with the way we respect your Apple advice, it
would be SCARY if you were named Eve.
:-)
(Observes that of other players in the Garden of Eden, SNA are the
starting three letters of snake.)
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Hey cisco guru,
I can't figure out what's connected to what from your description. But,
keep in mind that every router connected to a network segment must agree
exactly on the configuration of that network. Cable ranges, zone names, and
timer values should be the same for every router on the s
I was just configuring appletalk last night for the first time and I
noticed that changes took a while to take effect. In Priscilla's
CertificationZone paper she suggests shutting down appletalk on all
affected interfaces when you're making changes. When you're completely
finished making your ch
Took CIT on Apr 3 2001 and only had one... thank goodness!
Tim
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> For those of you who have taken the Support exam recently, did you get any
> AppleTalk questions?
>
> The outline for the 640-506 Support exam
I took it 3 weeks ago and did not have any AppleTalk questions
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From: Don Pezet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 6:00 PM
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Priscilla,
I took the CIT test on Wednesday
Priscilla,
I took the CIT test on Wednesday. There were about three AppleTalk
questions. Mainly, which debug commands to issue to monitor different
AppleTalk zone registrations and what not. I wouldn't sweat it too much.
Don
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Priscilla et. al.
Yes, on my 2.0 CIT taken this February I encountered several (guess is six)
apple related questions. Would suggest that candidates even study debug
commands nbt, arp, events, etc., printouts.
CCNP as of this past month -- thanks to all for contributing to this group.
Now o
I took the support exam in Feb 2001 UK. There was
appletalk on, in the form of sniffer output, what is
this frame ? etc. I had about 10 of these type of
questions, which is good if you know your sniffer.
Regards,
Phil.
--- Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> For those of you who have taken the Supp
Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
>
> For those of you who have taken the Support exam recently, did you get any
> AppleTalk questions?
>
I took Support 2.0 last summer and had a couple Appletalk questions.
And since the latest version of the CIT course, v4.1, has moved Atalk
to an appendix, that doe
Hello,
I just took Support about a week ago and did have about 4 or 5 questions
about Appletalk. I also took CIT through Mentor Technologies and Appletalk
was covered among other things...
-Daniel-
On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> For those of you who have taken the Support
Priscilla,
I know that Appletalk is still being referenced in most Support Exam Study
Guides that are currently in circulation. Matt Luallen's Exam Cram Study
Guide references it on pages 117-123. Hope that helps, I plan on taking the
exam either Sunday or Monday of next week.
Toodles,
Will
took it a month ago and i got about 4 to 5 questions as far as i remember.
p.
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From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 2:46 PM
Subject: AppleTalk on Support exam [7:269]
> For those of you who have taken the Support exam recently, did you
Took it a few weeks ago & only saw one or two references- kinda bunched
together. Can't remember exactly, but the questions were something like
"which of these are..." AppleTalk was among a cluster of right answers. No
trouble shooting though, just general reference.
Phil
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check your appletalk zones
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From: Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 7:36 AM
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Subject: AppleTalk
I have a vlan on my 4006 that has nothing but Macs and one HP printer.
AppleTalk enabled on the Macs
No routing of
Thanks alot for the reponses. I figured out my pronlem and could just kick
myself in the arse...
Turns out that the clients that were having problems were drops that were
added later after the original cable install... so the Excell spreadsheet
that has everything listed has rooms grouped togethe
There's not enough info for us to troubleshoot your problem but here are a
couple AppleTalk factoids that might help you troubleshoot:
AppleTalk doesn't broadcast. Instead, AppleTalk uses data-link-layer
multicasts. When there are no zones, AppleTalk nodes send multicasts to the
09:00:07:FF:FF
Hi,
Ensure they are configured to be in the same ZONE. I would think you still need to
ensure your on the same segment and you may therefore need to configure the
cable-range, zone and all that stuff.
Just some thoughts. We used to get horrible stuff like this happening accross bridged
netw
I would stay away from routing appletalk across a Wide Area Network.
Although only 10% of our nodes are Macs, almost 50% of our LAN and WAN
traffic was appletalk. We've just switched to desktop printing and use
AppleshareIP instead of Appletalk for file sharing (our server is a
W2K server). Users
At 03:59 PM 1/18/01, you wrote:
>Greetings Group,
> I have very little info- on Appletalk, I used to
>own "Inside Appletalk" but that was many moons ago.
>
>Can anyone tell me : Is AURP a distance Vector Routing
>Protocol ?
Yes. AppleTalk Update-Based Routing Protocol (AURP) is still a
dista
thats the same with me...
Appletalk din't appear on the exam for me.
Aditya Kedia
CCNP CCDP MCSE+I
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Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 2:23 PM
Subject: RE: Appletalk
>
As I recall there was.
Teunis
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia
On Monday, November 27, 2000 at 09:23:15 AM, Croyle. James wrote:
> Myself and another individual at my office took the CIT, and there was no
> Appletalk on it. I don't remember what the almighty page says... :-)
>
> Jim Croyle
>
> -
Myself and another individual at my office took the CIT, and there was no
Appletalk on it. I don't remember what the almighty page says... :-)
Jim Croyle
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From: Gabriel Nickel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 5:57 AM
To: groupstudy
Subject: C
It's listed on the objectives:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/pdf/cid.pdf
No doubt you'll only get 1-2 questions on it at the most. Let me know how
things go regarding this. I take my CID in a few weeks.
--
Jason Roysdon, CCNA, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+
List ema
I didn't intrepret the question as bridging AT. To route AT over Frame
one config is:
r1:
appletalk routing
int s 0
encap frame
frame-relay map appletalk 100.2 102 br
apple cable-range 100-100 100.1
apple zone frame12
r2:
appletalk routing
int s 0
encap frame
frame-relay map appletalk 100.1 201
Glad to help... see below for config examples...
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> I am trying to configure 5 Cisco router's with appletalk, can someone
out
> their send me a complete config list?
Sure...
hostname R1 <- change for your ho
Did you try the Cisco AppleTalk Configuration guide here:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/atipx_c/2cdapple.htm
Also, see my white paper on AppleTalk at www.certificationzone.com.
Apple and various third parties (including Cisco) started shipping
AppleTal
Thank you to everyone who took the time to make suggestions. I seem
to have fixed the problem, but I can't pinpoint exactly which command
or configuration change worked the magic.
As you suggested, I made sure that portfast was on, port channel was
off, and that the ports were not set to trun
nt: Monday, October 16, 2000 9:49 PM
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Thanks to everyone who sent a response. I'm sorry I didn't give more
details when I wrote last night; I think I was just on the verge of going
to sleep.
The exact message w
Hi again,
A few last points before I sign off for the night:
1) You do indeed have to ask your users to pay attention to the error
message and do as it says (open and close the Control Panel). The person
who told me it was just an FYI message was forgetting the reality of
working with AppleTa
Thanks to everyone who sent a response. I'm sorry I didn't give more
details when I wrote last night; I think I was just on the verge of going
to sleep.
The exact message was:
"Your AppleTalk network has become available. To use the network, open the
AppleTalk control panel, then close it. "
I had done a lot of networking with Macs in the past - seems G3s had the same
problem you are running into. Oftentimes enabling portfast will resolve the
issue, but not always. I also found that switch platform doesn't matter
29xx, 35xx, 55xx, 65xx, etc.. I always found that locking down the
ber 16, 2000 2:35 PM
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> >
> >
> > Well, turning on portfast would have been my method of
> > troubleshooting
> > also. The other thought that comes to mind is that maybe the
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http://til.info.apple.com/techinfo.nsf/artnum/n30922
May be the article to which Priscilla was referring.
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Priscilla Oppenheimer
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 12:35 PM
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Subject:Re: appletalk on catalyst 5500 problem
Well, turning on portfast would
Well, turning on portfast would have been my method of troubleshooting
also. The other thought that comes to mind is that maybe the EtherTalk
devices can't hear from their router quickly enough because the switch
ports don't enter forwarding mode soon enough.
An EtherTalk device sends a ZIPGet
Appletalk should not have a problem. I have run Apple
over multiple lans with STP and not had a problem.
STP lives on layer 2 while Apple 3 and above. When
you say crushed, what exactly is happining? If you
are having issues with desktops the ports on the cat
that you are connected to should ha
Chris
I don't know. I am running STP with multiple VLANs on 5505's with IP and
appletalk. My AT seems to be working fine (of course it will crash today now
that I have said that). What do you mean by crushed? Do your zones go away? Do
your hosts do their normal dynamic address resolution (includin
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