RE: Possible phony CCIE

2000-10-25 Thread Tim Begley
Hey mate - you just leave our kangaroos out of this or you may have your own problems. -Original Message- From: Jean Stockton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 26 October 2000 12:58 To: Kane; Dale Holmes; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Possible phony CCIE he! he! he! you

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2000-10-25 Thread Louie Belt
n of those who produce it. -- Ayn Rand -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 10:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Possible phony CCIE CCO said 64...an

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2000-10-25 Thread Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor
CCO said 64...an unverified CCIE here said 65 -Original Message- From: Elaine Poulsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 8:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Possible phony CCIE I dunno. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > How many useless replies do

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2000-10-25 Thread Kevin Wigle
thanks Elaine, I'm sick at home and that made me chuckle.. Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: "Elaine Poulsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, 25 October, 2000 11:09 Subject: Re: Possible phony CCIE > I dunno

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2000-10-25 Thread Jean Stockton
Holmes; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Possible phony CCIE > > > But will this satisfy the evident "bloodlust" out there ? The pillowcase > with the doorknobs is a reasonable start , but I can't help thinking that > will only have the masses howling for more... Perh

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2000-10-25 Thread Elaine Poulsen
I dunno. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > How many useless replies do we need on this topic ? > > -Original Message- > From: Donald B Johnson Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 7:21 PM > To: Mark Cohen; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Possible

RE: Possible phony CCIE

2000-10-25 Thread SGressel
How many useless replies do we need on this topic ? -Original Message- From: Donald B Johnson Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 7:21 PM To: Mark Cohen; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Possible phony CCIE Maybe cisco checked this out and found out that he /she

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2000-10-25 Thread Kane
- From: "Dale Holmes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 9:34 AM Subject: RE: Possible phony CCIE > > Gee, > > Maybe a few of us should get together and meet him

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2000-10-25 Thread NeoLink2000
In a message dated 10/25/00 8:55:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > This seems to have opened a large debate. I have to say my feelings about it > are mixed. One the one hand, a person should not be allowed to misrepresent > this certification. Cisco should be able to ve

RE: Possible phony CCIE

2000-10-25 Thread Curtis Phillips
your head. >From: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: ick daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: Possible phony CCIE >Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 22:16:51 -0500 (CDT) > >On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, ick dani

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2000-10-24 Thread hao vu
al Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sam LI Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 9:03 PM To: Brad Beck; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Possible phony CCIE Hey, there are too many different kind of people around, some of them are really keen on being the real one, so

RE: Possible phony CCIE

2000-10-24 Thread Jean Stockton
age- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Mark Cohen > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 12:36 PM > To: Raul F. Fernandez; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Possible phony CCIE > > > Raul- > > I brought down the local checkpoint firewall by pin

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2000-10-24 Thread Dale Holmes
aul F. Fernandez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Possible phony CCIE >Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 12:35:36 -0400 > >Raul- > > I brought down the local checkpoint firewall by pinging an large number of >hosts simultaneously. I asked him (the bo

RE: Possible phony CCIE

2000-10-24 Thread Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor
Nnanna - You mean you didn't study that chapter while preparing for your Cisco certs? -Original Message- From: Nnanna Obuba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 12:54 PM To: Mark Cohen; Raul F. Fernandez; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Possible phony

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2000-10-24 Thread Kevin Wigle
ROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cisco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 7:59 AM Subject: Re: Possible phony CCIE > Just because a guy can config a router it does not make him a god. Lets face > it guys, there is nobody out there that knows everyth

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2000-10-24 Thread Curtis Phillips
further than you have. Just me thoughts. Curtis >From: "Raul F. Fernandez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Raul F. Fernandez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Tim O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Cisco ><[EMAIL P

RE: Possible phony CCIE

2000-10-24 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
He is phony because he BSed about SMB traffic being caused by pings. We've all run into these balloon types. They are annoying. I'm glad he got caught. Priscilla At 12:54 PM 10/23/00, Nnanna Obuba wrote: >Because he does not know about a bug in checkpoint he >is a phony C

Re: Possible phony CCIE

2000-10-24 Thread Craig Columbus
I wouldn't drop it. You don't want to accuse someone unnecessarily, but if someone at the CCIE program stated that the card was bogus, I assume that they did a name lookup and found he wasn't certified. You may want to pursue this on two fronts: 1) contact the people employing this guy and t

RE: Possible phony CCIE

2000-10-24 Thread Mike Emigh
TECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Cohen Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 3:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Possible phony CCIE Greetings- I recently worked on a project with a fellow who claimed to be a CCIE. He even gave me his card with the CCIE logo on it. At least I

Re: Possible Phony CCIE

2000-10-24 Thread Craig Columbus
I wouldn't drop it. You don't want to accuse someone unnecessarily, but if someone at the CCIE program stated that the card was bogus, I assume that they did a name lookup and found he wasn't certified. You may want to pursue this on two fronts: 1) contact the people employing this guy and t

RE: Possible phony CCIE

2000-10-24 Thread Brian
On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, ick daniels wrote: > How do you know he is not certified. By sending a mail > to Cisco. Pleaseee. I just tried it by sending a card > of someone who is a CCIE and i got a reply that he > does not exist. If you doubt his credentials be a man Ick, do you mind sharing the name

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2000-10-24 Thread ick daniels
How do you know he is not certified. By sending a mail to Cisco. Pleaseee. I just tried it by sending a card of someone who is a CCIE and i got a reply that he does not exist. If you doubt his credentials be a man and challenge him. Just because you asked a question about firewall and he doesn't k

RE: Phony CCIE

2000-10-24 Thread Bernard
Should I conclude that after all the studies and sacrifices and expenses, when I become a ccie, I am not allowed to forget any of the things that I have learnt, and must remember CCO line by line? And if I dare to forget, then immediately I turn into a bonehead? Bernard Doesn't the 'E' in

Re: Possible phony CCIE

2000-10-24 Thread Jack Walker
Please give us a break. There are 4 CCIE certifications, why? I would assume a R/S CCIE does not know anyting about 8600 is acceptable, right? So you ask him a bug about Checkpoint, why not Windows 98, Linux or tons of those bugs in IE or Outlook? Even if it is something relates to R/S, but the g

Re: Possible phony CCIE

2000-10-23 Thread Sam LI
000 10:05 AM Subject: RE: Possible phony CCIE > It seems rather silly to me that a CCIE would suggest that a Sun box would > "flood the wire with excessive SMB traffic". I'm not saying this rules > this man out of being CCIE, just that the diagnoses is a poor one coming > fro

RE: Possible phony CCIE

2000-10-23 Thread Perry Lucas
Borghese Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 9:22 PM To: Tim O'Brien; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cisco Subject: Re: Possible phony CCIE I thought CCIE stood for Cisco Certified Internetworking Expert. I believe Engineer has legal ramifications. I am sure you can ask for his number then check with Cisco. Ther

RE: Possible phony CCIE

2000-10-23 Thread Brad Beck
At 12:54 PM 10/23/00 -0700, Nnanna Obuba wrote: > > >Because he does not know about a bug in checkpoint he >is a phony CCIE? In case you jave forgotten, CCIE >means >certified CISCO Internetwork Expert... give the guy a >break > >Nnanna > >--- Mark Cohen <[EMAI

Re: Possible phony CCIE

2000-10-23 Thread Paul Borghese
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cisco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 7:59 AM Subject: Re: Possible phony CCIE > Just because a guy can config a router it does not make him a god. Lets face > it guys, there is nobody out there that

RE: Possible phony CCIE - Thanks - we get the picture

2000-10-23 Thread Tim Begley
'material' in my inbox. -Original Message- From: hao vu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 24 October 2000 6:19 To: 'Winchester, Derek S.'; 'Raul F. Fernandez'; 'Tim O'Brien'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Cisco' Subject: RE: Possible ph

Re: Possible phony CCIE

2000-10-23 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr
AIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 9:35 AM Subject: RE: Possible phony CCIE > Raul- > > I brought down the local checkpoint firewall by pinging an large number of > hosts simultaneously. I asked him (the bogus ccie) why he thought that would > bring down the firewall? H

Re: Possible phony CCIE

2000-10-23 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr
Maybe cisco checked this out and found out that he /she is a ccie. - Original Message - From: Mark Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 12:55 AM Subject: Possible phony CCIE > Greetings- > > > I recently worked on a p

Re: Phony CCIE

2000-10-23 Thread Chuck Church
Doesn't the 'E' in CCIE actually stand for Expert? Not only is this guy a phony, but kind of a bonehead as well. Definitely let Cisco (mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]) know. See http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ for the logo. Good luck, Chuck Church CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE Sr. Networ

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2000-10-23 Thread hao vu
, October 23, 2000 9:46 AM To: 'Raul F. Fernandez'; Tim O'Brien; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cisco Subject: RE: Possible phony CCIE You actually never know what a Guy knows. I have an ex-coworker that is a CCIE. He got recruited by Xedia Corp 3 years ago.He had to learn there routers and techn

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2000-10-23 Thread J K
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Raul F. Fernandez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Possible phony CCIE >Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 12:35:36 -0400 > >Raul- > > I brought down the local checkpoint firewall by pinging an large number o

RE: Possible phony CCIE

2000-10-23 Thread Nnanna Obuba
Because he does not know about a bug in checkpoint he is a phony CCIE? In case you jave forgotten, CCIE means certified CISCO Internetwork Expert... give the guy a break Nnanna --- Mark Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Raul- > > I brought down the local checkpo

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2000-10-23 Thread Mark Cohen
opinions. -Original Message- From: Mark Cohen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 12:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Possible phony CCIE Greetings- I recently worked on a project with a fellow who claimed to be a CCIE. He even gave me his card with the

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2000-10-23 Thread Mark Cohen
nt: Monday, October 23, 2000 9:57 AM To: Tim O'Brien; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cisco Subject: Re: Possible phony CCIE Dear folks, I have to agree with Tim on this one. It may have been possible that the person at this site just did not pay enough attention to the question posed or that he may not know

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2000-10-23 Thread Winchester, Derek S.
er Sr. WAN Engineer(CCNP) Data Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 410-953-4887 Cell: 443-562-3456 -Original Message- From: Raul F. Fernandez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 9:57 AM To: Tim O'Brien; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cisco Subject: Re: Possible phony C

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2000-10-23 Thread Raul F. Fernandez
ROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Cisco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Monday, October 23, 2000 8:51 AM Subject: Re: Possible phony CCIE >Just because a guy can config a router it does not make him a god. Lets face >it guys, there is nobody out there that know

Re: Possible phony CCIE

2000-10-23 Thread Tim O'Brien
, October 23, 2000 6:41 AM Subject: Re: Possible phony CCIE Well, even some real one behave like this, i come across a few in the the past - Original Message - From: Mark Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 3:55 PM Subject: Possible phon

Re: Possible phony CCIE

2000-10-23 Thread Sam LI
Well, even some real one behave like this, i come across a few in the the past - Original Message - From: Mark Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 3:55 PM Subject: Possible phony CCIE > Greetings- > > > I recently wo

Re: Possible phony CCIE

2000-10-23 Thread Ben Lovegrove
I think you should contact your local Cisco representative and press this matter forward urgently. Such con artists do enormous damage to the credibility of genuine CCIEs, not to mention the damage they could do to a client's network. Don't hestitate - shout loudly! --- Mark Cohen <[EMAIL PRO

Possible phony CCIE

2000-10-23 Thread Mark Cohen
Greetings- I recently worked on a project with a fellow who claimed to be a CCIE. He even gave me his card with the CCIE logo on it. At least I think it is the CCIE logo. It is a router symbol surrounded with laurels and has the words Cisco Certified Internetwork Engineer circling it as