Happy 2017 to all!
Turns out my paranoia was not all in vain. Shore power was off for 3 days
with temps into the 19F range. The marina suffered a 1 in 20 year "Arctic
outflow" storm with a direct hit of winds > 50kn. Word on the dock is that
a BC Ferries captain clocked 80kn winds nearby. My boa
t;
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Winter in eastern NC is really strange this year. Last night was 18F. Today was
33F. Tomorrow is 60. Sunday is 78. And by mid-week next week it is supposed to
be in the 40s.
I suppose both sides on the i
ella Barba, Joe
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We got down to 25 degrees with a ton of wind. Cabin heat is set on about 50
degrees on the 500 watt setting and the lowest cabin temp I saw was 38. I can
click here and see my cabin temps from work o
-24F is only… oh, wait… -31C. Okay, so maybe not better for the Canadians.
Maybe the cold will be gone by the time you visit. Or maybe not. Bring warm
clothes.
— Fred
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
> On Dec 16, 2016, at 2:0
5 above for sunday's
high.
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Mine consists of winterizing the boat, then laying in LOTS of rum for the
winter
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Mine consists of winterizing the boat, then laying in LOTS of rum for the
winter… :^)
Nice storm coming today/tonight; snow st
Mine consists of winterizing the boat, then laying in LOTS of rum for the
winter… :^)
Nice storm coming today/tonight; snow starts before rush hour, with several
inches forecast overnight; then temps drop to a low on Saturday of -24F, with
winds gusting over 20… Sunday the temps get back up
My winterizing consists of plugging in the "flying saucer" heater, the
Caframo Stor-Dry.
No problems in decades of doing that.
Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
On 14 December 2016 at 14:26, Nate Flesness via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> I usually just pull the t
I usually just pull the thermostat in the Fall as part of winterizing -
means the antifreeze circulates right away.
Raw water cooled in freshwater, so its a good time to pull the leaves and
pine needles out of it anyway...I keep thinking i'll install a filter
Nate
Sarah Jean
1980 30-1
on the hard
Subject: Stus-List Freeze Proofing
Something not mentioned yet: the RV community uses a water heater bypass kit so
you don't fill up your water heater with plumbing antifreeze. You simply drain
it. Works great!
Len Mitchell
Crazy Legs
C&C 37+
Se
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There is a bypass port in the thermostat housing that allows a limited amount
of water flow through the engine block and cylinder head prior to the
thermostat opening. This is to prevent getting localized hot spots while the
engine is warming up. So some of
Thanks Rick - good to hear some AF will get in even if thermostat isn't
open. My mechanic is the one who recommended the technique I've used. He
told me to pour the AF in until I smelled it out of the exhaust after
warming up the engine.
I'm 100% positive the engine is a Y2QM20H although not pos
The pink RV style antifreeze does freeze solid though it is suppose to not
expand enough
to break copper pipes at least down to the rated temperature. It may break
plastic before
the rated temperature.
Michael Brown
Windburn
C&C 30-1
From: RANDY
Thanks Rick, that's a relief to hear. I've b
Something not mentioned yet: the RV community uses a water heater bypass kit so
you don't fill up your water heater with plumbing antifreeze. You simply drain
it. Works great!
Len Mitchell
Crazy Legs
C&C 37+
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Thanks Rick, that's a relief to hear. I've been worried that I didn't let my
A4 warm up enough to open the thermostat before sucking anti-freeze through
s up on the ice.
Cheers,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C&C 30-1 #7
Ken Caryl, CO
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remy Ralph
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Yep, the mighty Yanmar 2qm20 is raw water cooled and the 1978 original. My
understanding is that the thermostat opens to route salt water through
Thanks Russ. Sounds like I'm over thinking it and things will be fine. I'm
pretty sure the Baileys won't freeze and will make a nice special coffee
when next I'm at the boat :)
On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:14 PM, Russ & Melody wrote:
Hi Jeremy,
I don't do any specific winterizing on the water sytems
Thanks Rick for explaining. I wish I had a freshwater cooled engine. What
I've got is a raw water cooled engine though. There is no heat exchanger or
coolant. Salt water flows thu
On Dec 13, 2016, at 10:20 PM, Rick Rohwer wrote:
Hi Jeremy,
The water (coolant) inside the freshwater cooled engine
Hi Jeremy,
The water (coolant) inside the freshwater cooled engine is controlled by the
thermostat. Coolant is approx 50% glycol to reduce the freeze point of the
coolant (-25F or more). When the engine hits the set temp (190F), the
thermostat opens and allows coolant cooled by the heat exc
Yep, the mighty Yanmar 2qm20 is raw water cooled and the 1978 original. My
understanding is that the thermostat opens to route salt water through
the block
when warm enough.
Thanks,
Jeremy
Dec 13, 2016, at 7:38 PM, Rick Brass wrote:
Jeremy;
Someone has probably pointed out in a later post th
Hi Jeremy,
I don't do any specific winterizing on the water sytems.
I'm just across the pond from you in the area I
call Pacific South West (Canada)... I would call
Alaska the real PNW. But then again marketing is
not something anywhere near my realm of
expertise. However, keeping a boat in
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I take a different strategy here in Seattle - no
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We poured it into the sea strainer with the engine running and pumping it
through the system. Poured about 5L in until it came out the exhaust (I
think). I do have
don't forget foot pump at the galley sink if you have one.. winterizing the
pressure water system won't get to it.
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On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List
wrote:
Here in the Pacific NW (Vancouver) we're getting freezing weather now, which
rarely happ
Thanks to all for the feedback on freeze proofing.
Patrick - I also run a heater and an Ecoseb desiccant dehumidifier (which
is awesome!). Last year I didn't do anything with antifreeze, just the
heaters, and everything was alright. This year the freeze is a lot colder
though. I do worry about
.
randy
Tamanawas
29-II
Hood River, OR
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Perhaps I missed a part, but is there like a Bowman heat exchanger involved?
Does the engine carry its own coolant. If so it is imperative to check coolant
quantity and degree protection. IMHO
Colin
S/V Lindsey Layne
71 C&C 40C #3
On the hard Western Lake Erie
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That little plug was plastic in my case, was thinking I'd replace it with a
stainless one in spring. Maybe a ball valve
I will make sure to flush the tanks well in spring, and thanks for the heads up.
Brad
"Pulse" 1985 33 MkII
Lake Huron
Anything worth doing requires sails!~~~_/
full bucket (5 gal/25 l),
my engine is well winterised. As I said, that extra $5-$10 (for an extra jug or
two) is a very cheap insurance.
Marek
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This year I found a plug in the bottom front of the muffler, drained that and
the strainer before I pumped antifreeze (Rv) through, thought was that the
antifreeze would
This year I found a plug in the bottom front of the muffler, drained that and
the strainer before I pumped antifreeze (Rv) through, thought was that the
antifreeze would be less diluted and it would require less fluid. It took one
and a half jugs to get pink stuff in the pail out back. I use the
My marina requires you to either have an ice-eater or rent one for $200 from
them. My $500+ dollar ice-eater finally died after many years, so I am trying a
new strategy - pond pumps. I got 2 of them, 1000 GPH each, off Amazon for $120
total. I am going to hang one under the bow and one under th
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> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 10:17:01 -0800
> Subject: Stus-List freeze proofing
> Here in the Pacific NW (Vancouver) we're getting freezing weather now,
> which rarely
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We poured it into the sea strainer with the engine running and pumping it
through the system. Poured about 5L in until it came out the exhaust (I
think). I do have concern though if the thermostat was routing it into the
We poured it into the sea strainer with the engine running and pumping it
through the system. Poured about 5L in until it came out the exhaust (I
think). I do have concern though if the thermostat was routing it into the
block. I did warm up the engine first for ~20min under load with hopes
that
Sounds like what I do to winterize around here… btw, the temp is all the way up
to +7F right now… :^(
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
> On Dec 13, 2016, at 12:17 PM, Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List
> wrote:
>
> Here in the Pacific
, so you’re probably
stuck with RV stuff all around.
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Subject: Stus-List freeze proofing
Here in the Pacific NW (Vancouver) we're getting freezing weather now, which
r
(about 30 cm (1 ft.) of snow on the ground)
>
>
>
> *From:* Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2016 13:18
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> *Cc:* Jeremy Ralph
> *Subject:* Stus-List freeze proofing
>
> Here in the Pacific NW (Vancouver) we're g
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Cc: Jeremy Ralph
Subject: Stus-List freeze proofing
Here in the Pacific NW (Vancouver) we're getting freezing weather now, which
rarely happens. Many people keep a small ceramic heater running in their
boats, but what if the shore power goes out?
Here is what I did last week to pre
Here in the Pacific NW (Vancouver) we're getting freezing weather now,
which rarely happens. Many people keep a small ceramic heater running in
their boats, but what if the shore power goes out?
Here is what I did last week to prep:
1. Run 2QM20 raw water cooled engine under load for 20min to wa
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