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> Yes the stand up shower on the
, April 29, 2019 4:40 PM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List C&C as offshore boat?
Yes the stand up shower on the 35 works fine with pressurized hot and cold hand
held. Very nice and good for several sho
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> I agree with Josh on all points. When I bought Deja Vu' I intended to
> sail offshore on certain races bu
I always preferred Beta myself... but either would go nicely with one of
the old rotary depth sounder displays. One of the fun parts of looking at
old bolts is seeing some of the old gear that brings back memories!
On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 11:44 AM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List <
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I really like the VHS radio, rather than the bothersome Betamax ones.
At 11:09 AM 4/29/2019, you wrote:
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To: "'cnc-list@cnc-list.com'"
Subject: Stus-List C&a
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avoidance...
Where is this MK1 located? The only
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> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List C&C as offshore boat? And more 35-2
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> Shawn — am I correct in recalling you’re talking Canadian dollars? If
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Shawn — am I correct in recalling you’re talking Canadian dollars? If so,
$21500 CAD is ar
Shawn — am I correct in recalling you’re talking Canadian dollars? If so,
$21500 CAD is around $16000 USD at today’s exchange rate. That’s a pretty low
amount for a decent shape 35-foot C&C, even given its quirks.
— Fred
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the
ake a shower
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Stephen Thorne
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List C&C as offshore boat?
I agree with Josh on all points. When I bought Deja Vu' I intended to sail
offshore on certain races but with most of the time local sailing & racing on
Lake Ponchatrain and the Gulf Coast area. We ended up doing
I agree with Josh on all points. When I bought Deja Vu' I intended to sail
offshore on certain races but with most of the time local sailing & racing
on Lake Ponchatrain and the Gulf Coast area. We ended up doing a lot more
offshore sailing that originally planned and for the most part she proved
Our boat is the same, there was a bit of creaking over the starboard
bulkhead when I walked over it. So I sprayed it with McLube. Fixed.
Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 at 19:34, Shawn Wright via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Another day of 2
Another day of 20-30kn winds in the harbour, so no sailing, although I did
spend a few hours on the boat listening to some creaking. The bulkheads
either side of the head being somewhat loose where they meet the cabin top
liner worries me a bit.
On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 9:10 AM Jim Watts via CnC-
I agree with Dave. Just get a boat and learn from it. It’s an iterative
process. If you’re lucky, you’ll get a boat you’ll love and want to keep
forever - like a C&C 30 MK I :) - and / or you’ll learn from the experience of
owning the boat you get, and apply the learning to the next boat you
First, I think your idea of getting a boat that you can use right now is a
good idea. By the time you are ready for bluewater, you will have a much
better idea of what boat you want for that purpose.
The 35-3 does tend to pound in waves going upwind, it's just a function of
that flat bottom in fron
need to spend some time developing your
>> sailing skills and interests, then you can do more intelligent planning for
>> future endeavors.
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>> Just a contrary opinion.
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>> Gary
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and drip through a hole in
>> the step into the bilge.
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>> And yes it does rain in North Carolina… a lot at times!
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>> Rick Brass
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you can do more
> intelligent planning for future endeavors.
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> Just a contrary opinion.
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> Gary
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Thanks for all the great replies. Interesting about the 30-1 setup for
offshore. There is one in Victoria selling for $55K (for almo
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> As to Rick’s comments about wet boats-
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Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C as offshore boat?
As to Rick’s comments about wet boats- my boat gets a significant amount of
water in the bilge and it appears to primarily come from the mast. During dry
spells the bilge is dry and water always increases significantly after a rain.
We
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Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C as offshore boat?
Thanks for all the great replies. Interesting about the 30-1 setup for
offshore. There is one in Victoria selling for $55K (for almost a year now)
that the owner put ov
My Girlfriend and I will be crossing to the Exumas via Bermuda this fall on
our C&C44 weather "window" permitting. We haven't yet decided if our gulf
stream jump off point will be Halifax direct, or somewhere down the US
coast north or the ICW. We're too deep and too tall for the ICW.
Breakaweigh h
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> Thanks for all the great replies. Interesting
"Offshore" has no actual definition. It isn't like buying a vessel for
high latitude winter cruising and making sure the ice class you buy is
equal to the ice you think you need to withstand, i.e. don't buy a boat
rated for 6 inches of ice if you are going to hit 12 inches.
So let us separate
t: Re: Stus-List C&C as offshore boat?
That’s him lol.
/John
On Apr 25, 2019, at 8:33 AM, robert
mailto:robertabb...@eastlink.ca>> wrote:
John,
I think I might have met your friend.Christian Tirtirauif true, he
bought a C&C 37 from an RNSYS club member...the boat was call
That’s him lol.
/John
> On Apr 25, 2019, at 8:33 AM, robert wrote:
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> John,
>
> I think I might have met your friend.Christian Tirtirauif true, he
> bought a C&C 37 from an RNSYS club member...the boat was called Northern
> Lights.it was in great shapethe previous owner har
: Stus-List C&C as offshore boat?
When I was boat shopping for my first keel boat (in the mid-90s in the
Chesapeake and along the Jersey Shore) I was attracted to a couple of
Ericksons. I didn’t buy them because of the reputation they have of being wet
boats – with problems of hardware bed
John,
I think I might have met your friend.Christian Tirtirauif true,
he bought a C&C 37 from an RNSYS club member...the boat was called
Northern Lights.it was in great shapethe previous owner hardly
used itsat on a mooring all Summer for several years. It was on the
mark
Hi Robert,
His boat is now located at Shining Waters Marina. He was at the Halifax marina
before.
He upgraded his quite old equipment (Radar, batteries, chartplotter, wind,
depth, speed. added a drogue, had the rod rigging inspected, added hydrovane,
running rigging where needed, new anchor
Hi Robert,
His boat is now located at Shining Waters Marina.
He was at the Halifax marina for a few years. He upgraded his quite old
equipment (Radar, batteries, chartplotter, wind, depth, speed. added a drogue,
had the rod rigging inspected, added hydrovane, running rigging where needed,
new
and a sponge.
Rick Brass
Imzadi C&C 38 mk2 #47
la Belle Aurore C&C 25 mk1 #225
Washington, NC
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Subjec
I couldn't find my digital copy of the file so I had to make another. I
apologize for the relatively poor quality. The readability leaves
something to be desired as well since it is formated for a magazine.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/11fyLKgkAzk36kq2tUUxg84yaWjqhGfcc/view?usp=drivesdk
Josh
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Subject: Stus-List C&C as offshore boat
I’ve always read that all C&Cs were “coastal cruisers”. The odd boat that
lands in New Zealand or the Med were lucky with weather windows but I
personally would not bank on traveling the world in any of the
Thanks for all the great replies. Interesting about the 30-1 setup for
offshore. There is one in Victoria selling for $55K (for almost a year now)
that the owner put over 50K into, but never left due to health issues.
re: the hull-deck joint. This is one reason I was looking at Ericsons for
months,
Incidentally, I forgot to mention, that Catalina 390 sailed like a barge
compared to my 30 MK I.
Randy
> On Apr 24, 2019, at 7:03 PM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List
> wrote:
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> Interesting discussion - thanks Shawn for launching it.
>
> Last October at Emerald Bay, Catalina Island I moored a c
Interesting discussion - thanks Shawn for launching it.
Last October at Emerald Bay, Catalina Island I moored a chartered Catalina 390
next to C&C 30 MK I hull #493, “Katherine Patricia,” hailing port Berkeley, CA.
I spoke with her owner Alexander Simpson, who is not on this mail list as far
a
C as offshore boat? (Joel Aronson)
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Shawn,
I'm still lurki
John,
Just curious, is your friend with a 37 doing the crossing from Halifax,
do just leaving from here?
Note your comment " he has prepared the boat over the last few
seasons."something for Shawn to think about beyond his initial purchase.
A club member spent all last year preparing hi
Josh, I agree with you wholeheartedly. It's very easy to dream you'll throw
off the lines and not come home for 6 months or more. Then the day to day
realities close in, especially if you have a spouse who may like to sail but
isn't thrilled with the long-term prospects. Owning a bigger boat
1I saw a C&C in Uruguay. It's hailing port was in Delaware. So there is
that.
My experience and my the reports from others is that C&Cs are generally
well built, strong boats. That being said, "Are the good blue water
boats?" I would suggest no. They typically have less tankage than other
sim
Shawn,
I did think about the slip costs and that is most certainly an item that can
add a good bit to the monthly average. We paid for slip fees in Annapolis up
until 2003 and while fees in A-town are quite expensive, the back-yard marina
that we kept the boat in is owned by close friends so by
Lots of offshore miles on my 40. The new owner is about to head back from the
Bahamas to NY. Friends remarked after a trip to Bermuda on their 49 one fall
that when the wind got DOWN to 30 it felt like they were becalmed. :) they got
through the ordeal with no damage.
Andy
Andrew Burton
139 Tuc
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Date: 4/24/19 13:16 (GMT-08:00) To:
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Jeff Helsdingen Subject: Re:
Stus-List C&C as offshore boat? According to stories from the previous owner my
35-1 sailed across the Atlantic and back with either the first or second owner.
On Wed, Ap
According to stories from the previous owner my 35-1 sailed across the
Atlantic and back with either the first or second owner.
On Wed, Apr 24, 2019, 3:06 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List, <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Dave.
>
> I think there is probably a big difference between going dow
Thanks, Dave.
I think there is probably a big difference between going down the Pacific
coast to Mexico, and going offshore to Hawaii or the South Pacific, mainly
in that the former is limited to 3-5 days offshore between safe ports, vs
20+ days for the latter, meaning weather windows are easier t
Thanks, Alan. How do you find the 35-3 compares with the Ericson 2-30 in
terms of build and sailing properties? I know they are different sizes from
different eras, but just curious. Ericson was my first choice for a while
until I basically gave up finding a good one locally. I've seen on only one
Shawn,
Been watching your rumination on buying that 35-II.
I’ve delivered a C&C 34 from Fort Lauderdale to Port Royal, Jamaica, no stops.
It was fine for that but all we had to deal with was constant headwinds for
days on end.
I’m flying into Ponta Delgada, Azores on May 4 to assist my friend
I've sailed my boat along the coast of Washington, no more than fifteen
miles offshore. In my more than fifty years of sailing, the waters along
the Washington coast are the worst in which I've ever sailed. Strongest
winds I've ever encountered were forty-two knots true, sailing DDW in the
Straits
Shawn,
I'm still lurking here. My 35-3, a 37, Impromptu, and Rick's LF 38 have
all been to Bermuda. Personally, I consider 35 the minimum for offshore,
but obviously, others have different standards.
Never saw winds over 30 (on the return) and never felt unsafe.
Joel
Formerly The Office
On We
I'm going to switch things up a bit from the gloomy topic of my current
boat purchase: how many of you have taken your C&C offshore, and if so,
which boat, where to, and how did it manage the conditions? If you have not
gone offshore, what are the worst conditions you've experienced in a C&C,
and h
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