RE: Cocoon use worldwide

Matthew   Some interesting points - I think that we in Africa are facing some very tough challenges when it comes to development; the mindset of many people in the past seems to have "Microsoft front and center" but this is perhaps chnaging due to poor exchange rates and high licensing fees   Y

Re: date translation

Yes, that's it. Another option could be to use the XSLT translate() function if you only need to change all the '/' into '.' in your date string: . This way you can do it in XSLT. -- Konstantin - Original Message - From: "Scherler, Thorsten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Strange problem with J2EE datasource

Hi there. I have strange problem with J2EE data source. Well it works fine. There is no problem at all, but ... when I start Tomcat I get an error message in Cocoon error log and in fact I don't understand it. Why Avalon can't find jdbc when it is initializing Cocoon and it has no problem after

Re: Cocoon use worldwide

Whoah - I think those comments were said with some very gentle humour every person and culture has their "flaws" and "greatness" - for example, I dont think we would have such a thriving IT industry right now without the drive and passion of the Americans... but certainly, for myself (speaki

Re: Cocoon use worldwide

Jeff Ramsdale wrote: Hi all, [..] With the utmost respect for the Project I observe that Cocoon is a bit of a fringe product as far as web development is concerned. [...] is there a particular reason why Cocoon might have special appeal to Europeans? Is there something about the minds

RE: Cocoon use worldwide

Goodness! This conversation didn't quite go the direction I intended! I don't know if we need to argue which is greater, USA or Europe or pick-your-European-country. I'm just interested in whether there is a mindset difference and if so what would make Cocoon appeal more to a European mind. I don'

RE: Cocoon use worldwide

Jeff, an interesting question and one that we have discussed before with Stefano. Here are a few reasons I can come up with: * Cocoon is strong on multi-channel publishing - especially useful for application scenarios in the mobile market. There are a lot of differences between these markets in E

Re: Cocoon use worldwide

Sorry! Could we stop this talk about USA vs. Europe. I have a German and U.S. citizenship and I'm sad how the relationship is developing right now. Pointing out the weaknesses and advantages of these "cultures" won't improve it. ;-) Jonny

Re: Im sure its a simple problem!

I have added a few remarks on this issue below as well. >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30/01/2003 09:18:28 >>> Richard Cunliffe wrote: > C:\tomcat\webapps\soundpool\soundpool.xml > C:\tomcat\webapps\soundpool\soundpool.xsl > > + tomcat (folder) > + webapps (folder) > +- soundpool (folder) > +- sou

Re: Cocoon use worldwide

Niclas Hedhman wrote: I think I would agree with your initial assessment that there may be underlying values that infuence the mind set. Exactly what it is, I am not sure, but I don't think it is Microsoft in this case. Perhaps more reasonable is the "overall american attitude" of "I'm the best

[article] xml.com: XML Forms, Web Services and Apache Cocoon

XML Forms, Web Services and Apache Cocoon http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2003/01/29/cocoon-xforms.html?page=last#thread -=Ivelin=- - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting.

RE: proposal: "The Newbies Competence Center" (XSP?)

Peter I think we are agreeing (?) on the issue of proprietary : in essence, any code that you do not write yourself is 'proprietary' in some way - it "belongs" to someone. I agree that OS can "whither" and you may have a system on hand that is not being developed or maintained but at least y

Re: Cocoon use worldwide

On Friday 31 January 2003 13:48, Jeff Ramsdale wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm just curious about something. I've been reading the Cocoon-users list > for a couple of weeks or so and I see a lot of folks in Europe (and > Australia--Jeff T!) interested in Cocoon. I'm sure it's not a matter of > Americans (

Cocoon use worldwide

Hi all, I'm just curious about something. I've been reading the Cocoon-users list for a couple of weeks or so and I see a lot of folks in Europe (and Australia--Jeff T!) interested in Cocoon. I'm sure it's not a matter of Americans (& Canadians?) not being interested, I'm sure. (Oh, & Antonio, I d

Re: Time to go back to JSP. Cocoon just isnt ready.

On Thursday 30 January 2003 22:45, Stephan Michels wrote: > I found a blog, which fits perfecly ;-) > http://blogs.werken.com/people/bob/archives/000146.html Some people agree with each other on everything. Some people agree with each other on some things. Some people don't agree with each other

Re: Time to go back to JSP. Cocoon just isnt ready.

> Hussayn Dabbous wrote: > Maybe we are far away from maturity, but we won't get closer, > if everyone interested in "professional" usage just skips it, > because it's "not professionally usable" right now. > Instead of coming back next year you may help getting there > by taking a little bit of c

Re: Time to go back to JSP. Cocoon just isnt ready.

Robert Simmons wrote: > Sorry. To say I've had a bad week would be a massive > understatement. Thanks for apologising Robert - that is an admirable quality for open-source participation. > Today was just not the right day to flame me. > If he had done it yesterday I would have ignored him. > B

RE: Apache Tomcat/4.0.6 - HTTP Status 404

Geoff, Thanks for your e-mail! Yes its running locally at the moment on a hub. I have managed to get it working, it was just simply that I had put the xml, xsl and sitemap files in the wrong place. And yes everything is slowly clicking into place. I have been working on cocoon now for 4 days tr

RE: Apache Tomcat/4.0.6 - HTTP Status 404

> -Original Message- > From: Richard Cunliffe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:58 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Apache Tomcat/4.0.6 - HTTP Status 404 > > Geoff, > > When I say they are all working, I mean that they each show the own > page, e.g ht

Re: Time to go back to JSP. Cocoon just isnt ready

Matthew, Thanks very much for your message - food for tought! Actually I feel this should be carved in stone, but I didn't have my tools handy so I just mentioned it in http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=RulesOfTheGame - I hope you don't mind. -Bertrand Le Jeudi, 30 jan 2003, à 15:24 Eu

Re: Cocoon Competence Center Updates

On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, J.Pietschmann wrote: > Robert Simmons wrote: > > No no no... you dont get it. Im a consumer. Im a professional programmer. Im > > not some guy hackign in his dorm room between classes. I dotn have TIME to > > learn the detailed integrated architecture of every little product I

Re: Cocoon Competence Center Updates

Robert Simmons wrote: No no no... you dont get it. Im a consumer. Im a professional programmer. Im not some guy hackign in his dorm room between classes. I dotn have TIME to learn the detailed integrated architecture of every little product I use. What really broke the proverbial camel's back was

Re: i18n + XSLT transformation

Oh, I didn't see that in the original mail. Your elements are wrongly nested. in is not possible. So it should work. Do you really need the request parameters in XSL? Because XSLT is always cached with the passed params, you thwart more or less effective caching. Regar

Re: i18n + XSLT transformation

Thanks for your help Joerg!! Yes, I found a solution to my problem but I can't really explain it... This runs well: with the declaration of transformer xslt-with-param as bellow: true but this does'nt work: I thought both syntaxes were valid, aren't

Re: i18n translation with attributes: 2 questions

Yes, of course;-)) it runs well now.. Thanks for your help, Joerg. PS:Something quite strange is happening: I see the answers of my messages but not my messages themselves on the mailing-list... - Original Message - From: "Joerg Heinicke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent:

Re: i18n + XSLT transformation

Hello Cyril, found this message just now (I still have nearly 500 unread Cocoon messages since the weekend). Did you solve the problem? The sitemap looks ok, maybe the namespace declaration in the XSLT is wrong? Joerg Cyril Vidal wrote: Hi, Just to go more deeply into Cocoon's comprehension,

Re: i18n translation with attributes: 2 questions

As I mentioned in my last mail, I guess you must use the "value" attribute for changing the text on the button: The name is only interesting for DOM processings like document.form[0].elements["name of the form element"]. Regards, Joerg Cyril Vidal wrote: Hello Joerg, Thank you very much fo

Re: Im sure its a simple problem!

Richard Cunliffe wrote: C:\tomcat\webapps\soundpool\soundpool.xml C:\tomcat\webapps\soundpool\soundpool.xsl + tomcat (folder) + webapps (folder) +- soundpool (folder) +- soundpool.xml (file) +- soundpool.xsl (file) I assume that webapps is the correct folder. nope, you should put

Re: i18n translation with attributes: 2 questions

Hello Joerg, Thank you very much for your response. I think I've done what you told me. in my stylesheet: and in my dictionaries french: Soumettre la requête english: Submit the request But unfortunately (I've stopped and restarded Tomcat), I always have the same french message on the butto

Re: Im sure its a simple problem!

On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Richard Cunliffe wrote: > Apache Tomcat/4.0.6 - HTTP Status 404 - /soundpool/soundpool.xml > type Status report > message /soundpool/soundpool.xml > description The requested resource (/soundpool/soundpool.xml) is not > available. > > > > > >

Im sure its a simple problem!

To anyone who can help, I now have installed the following: JDK 1.3 Cocoon 2.0.4 Tomcat 4.0.6 Apache 2.0.42 And they are all working! J When I say they are all working, I mean that they each show the own page, e.g http://192.168.0.5:8080/cocoon/ o

Re: Passing parameters to an XSP

On Donnerstag, Januar 30, 2003, at 07:47 Uhr, Mark H wrote: I'm trying to pass parameters to an XSP but I'm getting an exception: unreported exception: org.apache.avalon.framework.parameters.ParameterException; must be caught or declared to be thrown I saw a similar post in the archives but

Re: Passing parameters to an XSP

Mark - Yup, you do. I use something like: String myparam = ""; try { myparam = parameters.getParameter("myparam"); } catch (Exception e) { } Make sure it comes AFTER the root user tag in your XSP. Regards, Lajos Mark H wrote: I'm trying to pass parameters to an XSP but I'm ge

Passing parameters to an XSP

I'm trying to pass parameters to an XSP but I'm getting an exception: unreported exception: org.apache.avalon.framework.parameters.ParameterException; must be caught or declared to be thrown I saw a similar post in the archives but when I tried the recommended solution it still didn't work, any i

Re: i18n translation with attributes: 2 questions

Hello Cyril, Cyril Vidal wrote: Hi, If some of you would have some tips for these two questions, I would be very grateful: 1°) Under Cocoon 2.0.4 and Windows 2000: I use a i18n Transformer (with french and english dictionnaries), and all's working fine with elements' translation. But not for a

Re: substring-before()

Thorsten Scherler wrote: Jupp, thanks! What would be an appropriate XSLT forum? Any recommendations? http://www.mulberrytech.com/xsl/xsl-list/ Joerg - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FA

Re: substring-before()

Jupp, thanks! What would be an appropriate XSLT forum? Any recommendations? Jeremy Quinn wrote: On Thursday, Jan 30, 2003, at 15:06 Europe/London, Scherler, Thorsten wrote: Hello group, Function: string substring-before ( string, string ) Returns the string part preceding the first occuren

i18n translation with attributes: 2 questions

Hi, If some of you would have some tips for these two questions, I would be very grateful: 1°) Under Cocoon 2.0.4 and Windows 2000: I use a i18n Transformer (with french and english dictionnaries), and all's working fine with elements' translation. But not for attributes. I have basicaly a HTML

RE: Apache Tomcat/4.0.6 - HTTP Status 404

Geoff, When I say they are all working, I mean that they each show the own page, e.g http://192.168.0.5:8080/cocoon/ or http://192.168.0.5:8080/index.html for tomcat. What's not working: It's not finding soundpool.xml. What do you mean about my pipeline match: "It looks like you reque

Re: substring-before()

On Thursday, Jan 30, 2003, at 15:06 Europe/London, Scherler, Thorsten wrote: Hello group, Function: string substring-before ( string, string ) Returns the string part preceding the first occurence of the second passed string inside the first passed string. The return value of substring-befor

AW: date translation

Thanks! I found: http://xml.apache.org/cocoon1/xsp.html -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Joerg Heinicke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Januar 2003 17:57 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: date translation Only a comment: Using is mostly not the optimum. I

Using getLastModified() to implement browser caching

Hi,   I've implemented a custom Reader to read file entities out of my database.  Because these file entities span across multiple tables and are managed thru my J2EE container, I'd like to implement some browser-side caching to prevent excessive generation on the server side.   In my reader

Re: date translation

Only a comment: Using is mostly not the optimum. It will create a Result Tree Fragment, where it is not needed. Using is shorter and is of a "normal" data type like node set, string or number. While working with strings it's only a question of conversions the processor has to do. Bu

name an output-file dynamically in cocoon?

Hi again, is it possible to name an output-file dynamically in cocoon. E.g. a pdf is created that has the name report_31_01_2003.pdf because its the 31 Jan 2003 (or report_GSM.pdf because I got a parameter with the value "GSM"). Is this possible at runntime? To keep up an other question, about

Re: Accessing session variables in the sitemap.xmap

Hello Christian, Thank you very much! It's good to know that it is impossible. I already guessed that. I'll write an action and see how it works out. Bye Heiko :) - Original Message - From: "Christian Haul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 4:

RE: Apache Tomcat/4.0.6 - HTTP Status 404

It looks like you requested /soundpool/soundpool.xml but your pipeline is set up to match /soundpool/soundpool -- note also that a trailing slash here will also fail. When you say it's all working, do you meant that /cocoon/ gives you the cocoon output? Also, when you say you've placed your examp

Re: Accessing session variables in the sitemap.xmap

On 30.Jan.2003 -- 02:56 PM, Heiko Milke wrote: > Hello, > > I want my application to work like the following. > > > > > > > > > > > 1. the serverpages generator accesses a script named "xsp/example.xsp" > Withing this script a session variable named "selected_stylesheet" is s

RE: Cocoon hosting - experiences?

I recently looked into consumer hosting for cocoon for the first time. Because that project was going to have relatively light traffic, I wound up going with a "virtual dedicated" server account for $80USD/month. I've been able to reuse the account for several smallish projects and have room to co

AW: date translation

Hello Konstantin, I want to do the following: I produce reports from a database. e.g. select * from info_bericht where Info_datum = ## AND country ='' This is be done from a html form. e.g. France Italy Netherland Swiss The actual date of the has to be in the format e.g. 01/

Re: Cocoon hosting - experiences?

tomcat 4.0.1 cocoon 2.0rc2 Apache/1.3.22 (Unix) (Red-Hat/Linux) the server up is from the release date of cocoon 2.0rc2 we are serving 3 sites (24/7) using cocoon (wirtual hosting) without any problem and we are almost satisfied with the performance i notice that in this server are up and runi

Re: Accessing session variables in the sitemap.xmap

Hey Andrew, Thanks for all your help! But well, it still aint working :( I tried on several browsers. I tried in the mount directory and i tried from the main sitemap. None if it works. Im using cocoon version 2.0.4 (on Windows 2000). Heiko ---

Re: date translation

Please tell us what is the final target of your date translation and we'll try to advice something. In XSP you do it just the same way as in pure Java: // perform your date translation using any method you like, e.g. SimpleDateFormat.parse(), etc. -- Konstantin - Original Message -

Re: Accessing session variables in the sitemap.xmap

Heiko I through together a quick test which works. Let me know if this works with you? PS. I am using cocoon from CVS as of about 3 nights ago. sitemap.xmap (extract) == xsp/example.xsp === http://apache.org/xsp"; xmlns:xsp-session="http:

AW: date translation

it is me again. How can I do it with xsp? -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Scherler, Thorsten Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Januar 2003 16:22 An: Cocoon-Users (E-Mail) Betreff: date translation Hello group, if anybody need a date translation, here it is: e.g. test.html?date=29.1.2003 (like

RE: Cocoon Competence Center Updates

> my question is how other people can even use cocoon with this bug in it. > Certainly if you are just doing SQL to a little database, it will work > fine but has none before tried to integrate it with an enterprise development > system? It's real simple: don't use XSP... You where going along

Re: Cocoon hosting - experiences?

gv wrote: I am curious about people's experiences with setting up live Cocoon sites with a Web host: Any hosts that seem particularly good (or bad)? http://www.aoindustries.com/ operates the hardware behind cocoondev.org and does a decent job at it. -- Steven Noels

date translation

Hello group, if anybody need a date translation, here it is: e.g. test.html?date=29.1.2003 (like we write in Germany) will be 1/29/2003. ... // King regards > Mit freundlichem Gruss, > > Thorsten Scherler > Marketing / Telefonmarketing > > Weidmüller GmbH & Co. > P.O. Box 2807 > 33

Re: Cocoon hosting - experiences?

i'm using this combination: apache-1.3.26 (mod_jk, SSL) tomcat-4.1.18 cocoon-2.0.4 DB2-UDB-7.1 Secureway-LDAP-3.2.1 i'm serving my companies website with this. My overall Uptime of the site is 100% but that may not say anything, because the site is only running since one month. My site is rather

RE: proposal: "The Newbies Competence Center" (XSP?)

Title: Message > Thanks for the comments; I am still not sure I  > understand or agree with the "proprietary" code part;  > my definition (based around ownership) seemingly disagrees  > with yours - we will then obviously disagree about the   > implications...    For purposes of evaluating i

AW: substring-before()

Yes it can be: e.g. ... ... -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Scherler, Thorsten Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Januar 2003 16:06 An: Cocoon-Users (E-Mail) Betreff: substring-before() Hello group, Function: string substring-before ( string, string ) Returns the string part preceding the firs

Re: Accessing session variables in the sitemap.xmap

Hey Andrew, > Heiko > > Have you set the session to be created? > > In the xsp:page declaration: > > xmlns:xsp-session="http://apache.org/xsp/session/2.0"; > create-session="true" Yes I did. And if i "echo" the value from "selected_stylesheet" in the xsp page then it is correctly set. The site

substring-before()

Hello group, Function: string substring-before ( string, string ) Returns the string part preceding the first occurence of the second passed string inside the first passed string. The return value of substring-before('2000/3/22', '/') would be '2000'. My question: can that first string be a pa

Re: Accessing session variables in the sitemap.xmap

Heiko Have you set the session to be created? In the xsp:page declaration: xmlns:xsp-session="http://apache.org/xsp/session/2.0"; create-session="true" Andrew On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 16:33, Heiko Milke wrote: > Hey Andrew, > > > You probably want to change your pipeline as follows: > > > > >

Re: Time to go back to JSP. Cocoon just isnt ready.

*lol* that reminds me of something ... :-D Stephan Michels wrote: Hi, I found a blog, which fits perfecly ;-) http://blogs.werken.com/people/bob/archives/000146.html Stephan Michels - Please check that your question has no

Re: Time to go back to JSP. Cocoon just isnt ready.

Hi, I found a blog, which fits perfecly ;-) http://blogs.werken.com/people/bob/archives/000146.html Stephan Michels - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting.

Re: [wiki admin] wiki going down for half an hour or so

Steven Noels wrote: I think I find now how to do it, but won't be able to do a 'live upgrade', and am going to take the Wiki offline for half an hour or so. Looks like all is well again, except for the hosed RecentChanges. Enjoy. Notification mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] will be resumed, too.

Re: Accessing session variables in the sitemap.xmap

Hey Andrew, > You probably want to change your pipeline as follows: > > > > > > > > This is an input module which will retrieve the session attribute named > selected_stylesheet. The way you have it written is trying to access a > sitemap parameter named selected_stylesheet. > The

Cocoon hosting - experiences?

Hello, I am curious about people's experiences with setting up live Cocoon sites with a Web host: Any hosts that seem particularly good (or bad)? How about uptime for the Cocoon servlet and the servlet container? Any controls for restarting if needed? Satisfied with the version of Cocoon, Java,

AW: Time to go back to JSP. Cocoon just isnt ready.

Hello, group. I am using cocoon in a professional environment. I am happy with it! So is my boss, ...and his boss! Use yourself whatever you want! Come back in one year - yes I strongly believe cocoon will be still there, because it is the concept behind it that makes so powerful! But pleas

RE: Time to go back to JSP. Cocoon just isnt ready.

This type of thing really makes my day. You know actually it does the project more good than harm. It pays to step back from our day to day Cocoon euphoria now and again and look at things through other peoples eyes. And its obvious that some people have difficulties "getting" Cocoon and perhaps ev

Re: Accessing session variables in the sitemap.xmap

Heiko On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 15:56, Heiko Milke wrote: > Hello, > > I want my application to work like the following. > > > > > > > > > > > 1. the serverpages generator accesses a script named "xsp/example.xsp" > Withing this script a session variable named "selected_sty

RE: Time to go back to JSP. Cocoon just isnt ready.

Cocoon is ready and it has been for a while. We've been using cocoon for interface to our application for last 2 years and deploying it in *very* large companies. We have 1000+ XSP talking to EJBs and I never encountered the problem described in the bug you pointed out (1.7.3 - 2.0.3 releases). JS

AW: Apache Tomcat/4.0.6 - HTTP Status 404

Richard,   it seems that your request reaches the Tomcat-Server, but not the Cocoon-Servlet (If Coccon can´t find a certain page it displays something like "Cocoon 2 - Resource not found").   Make sure that your /soundpool URIs are send to the Cocoon-Servlet: Check    TOMCAT_HOME/conf/serv

Re: Time to go back to JSP. Cocoon just isnt ready.

Steven, Because people are going to flame you, I thought maybe I'd send an email agreeing with you ;-) When I first started using cocoon, it seemed weird and akward. It took about 2-3 months of really digging in and trying to use it. This was before there were good books out, of which there

Accessing session variables in the sitemap.xmap

Hello,   I want my application to work like the following.             1. the serverpages generator accesses a script named "xsp/example.xsp" Withing this script a session variable named "selected_stylesheet" is set.   xsp/example.xsl   2. In the next step i want to transform the g

[wiki admin] wiki going down for half an hour or so

While trying to upgrade the Wiki this morning, I messed up royaly due to a little warning message I overlooked in the changelog. That way, the RecentChanges page is hosed too, unfortunately. Sorry for the disturbance. I think I find now how to do it, but won't be able to do a 'live upgrade', an

Re: Cocoon Competence Center Updates

My book has nothing to do with cocoon. Its a side issue at best. That's why I was so irritated about spending 2 weeks on it to draw a blank. Nothing like spending 2 weeks on something you consider to be trivial to your main line of work.   -- Robert - Original Message - From:

Re: Cocoon Competence Center Updates

You know, I have been coding in cocoon for about 2 years now, and have gotten by quite happily without XSP pages at all.  The bug you are referring to only is a bug with XSP.  Maybe you can look at cocoon without using XSP pages?  There may be a reason you have to use XSP, but just wanted to ch

Apache Tomcat/4.0.6 - HTTP Status 404

Hi,   I can see there is an argument going on at the moment, but if anyone has time….     I now have installed the following:       JDK 1.3     Cocoon 2.0.4     Tomcat 4.0.6     Apache 2.0.42   And they are all working! J   I had previously had

Re: Time to go back to JSP. Cocoon just isnt ready.

Sorry. To say I've had a bad week would be a massive understatement. Today was just not the right day to flame me. If he had done it yesterday I would have ignored him. But my mail was just as uncalled for as his. -- Robert - Original Message - From: "Sorin Marti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:

Antwort: Time to go back to JSP. Cocoon just isnt ready.

Hi! I think 2 weeks are definitively not enough time to costumize Cocoon to fit your needs. There is no reason to use Cocoon with all its features (XSP) as it is. I found out that many different ways are possible to find your goal. JSP is not an alternative to cocoon, its just another different

Re: Time to go back to JSP. Cocoon just isnt ready.

Robert, 210 hours in two weeks is like a single man-week IMHO (40 hours). Man hours are counted in both quality and quantity. Professionals should be aware of that. We are also professionals, although still hacking in some room between everything, but that shows we love our work. We are also

Re: Time to go back to JSP. Cocoon just isnt ready.

Ooooh!! I have not followed the list in the last days and now this. What's going on? If you got a problem with each other why can't you be polite? This list is (AFAIK) NOT to curse at somebody. If you want to vituperate please do it per PM!! Sorin Marti -

RE: Time to go back to JSP. Cocoon just isnt ready.

PLEASE: LET'S NOT TURN THIS INTO A FLAME WAR AGAINST ANYONE! We can discuss everything as long as it does not get personal. If someone does not want to use Cocoon, fine - if someone wants to use Cocoon, it's even better. And if someone is soo happy with Cocoon and can even give back to the immens

Re: Time to go back to JSP. Cocoon just isnt ready.

Neither was his post to me. However, I agree its a waste of time. -- Robert - Original Message - From: "SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 2:12 PM Subject: Re: Time to go back to JSP. Cocoon just isnt ready. > Robert, >

RE: Re: Time to go back to JSP. Cocoon just isnt ready.

>Robert Simmons wrote: > >I have put in 14 to 16 hours a day for 2 weeks on this thing. Lets fuckign >add it up shall we. That would be 210 hours averaging at 15 hours a day. >Dividing by 40 hours (the standard workweek) means that i have put in nearly >5 weeks of work time compressed into 2 wee

Re: Time to go back to JSP. Cocoon just isnt ready.

Robert, this was NOT POLITE ! stop this attacks! thats useless and distracting! no more words on this. hussayn -- Dr. Hussayn Dabbous SAXESS Software Design GmbH Neuenhöfer Allee 125 50935 Köln Telefon: +49-221-56011-0 Fax: +49-221-56011-20 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Time to go back to JSP. Cocoon just isnt ready.

> Robert Simmons wrote: > > > I have seen a plethora of new people come on this list and then just > > vanish. > > > Comments are invited. > > That's a quick decision for someone who has been around here for only 2 > weeks: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?a=10426232413&r=1&w=2 I have put in 14

Re: Create a new thread, if discussions leave off ground

SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous wrote: Nowadays threads keep on growing, but the discussions sometimes turn away from the thread title. then it becomes really a problem to guess the content from the title. Also keep in mind that changing the subject title while replying won't be enough to rethread, s

Create a new thread, if discussions leave off ground

Nowadays threads keep on growing, but the discussions sometimes turn away from the thread title. then it becomes really a problem to guess the content from the title. It would take less time to get hold on personally relevant mails ;-) thank you, Hussayn Luca Morandini wrote: -Original Mes

Re: Time to go back to JSP. Cocoon just isnt ready.

Robert Simmons wrote: I have seen a plethora of new people come on this list and then just vanish. Comments are invited. That's a quick decision for someone who has been around here for only 2 weeks: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?a=10426232413&r=1&w=2 Then again, we should feel honoure

Re: Cocoon Competence Center Updates

my question is how other people can even use cocoon with this bug in it. Certainly if you are just doing SQL to a little database, it will work fine but has none before tried to integrate it with an enterprise development system? -- Robert - Original Message - From: "Luca Morandini" <[EMA

RE: Cocoon Competence Center Updates

> -Original Message- > From: Robert Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:08 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Cocoon Competence Center Updates > No no no... you dont get it. Im a consumer. Im a professional programmer. Im > not some guy hackign in

Re: Time to go back to JSP. Cocoon just isnt ready.

i agree partially on your opinion. * yes, cocoon is complex to use, we are talking about this since long time now... * yes, cocoons documentation is complex and not complete. * yes, it takes time to get productive on cocoon, maybe too much time * yes, debugging with cocoon is poor. but... in

Re: Cocoon Competence Center Updates

> From: "Robert Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Is not cocoon's power or anything else that I'm arguing with. There is an > > extremely serious bug in cocoon that is causing me to not be able to use > it > > at all. It is clear that cocoon was developed to be a single solution and > to > > not i

Re: 2 return values from an action?

From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi again, > > >>In your particular case it'd be much better to return two values from the > >>action, just you different keys in the HashMap to do it: > > >>results.put("xsl-choice", "style _16"); > >>results.put("format", "fo2pdf"); > > >>and then use it in your site

Re: Cocoon Competence Center Updates

From: "Robert Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Is not cocoon's power or anything else that I'm arguing with. There is an > extremely serious bug in cocoon that is causing me to not be able to use it > at all. It is clear that cocoon was developed to be a single solution and to > not integrate with t

Re: 2 return values from an action?

Hi again, >>In your particular case it'd be much better to return two values from the >>action, just you different keys in the HashMap to do it: >>results.put("xsl-choice", "style _16"); >>results.put("format", "fo2pdf"); >>and then use it in your sitemap like this:

Re: Time to go back to JSP. Cocoon just isnt ready.

Hi Robert, I completely agree with your opinion and share your sorrows about the current state. I personally use Resins XTP mechanism, which works fine and fast and is well documented etc. Maybe some days we will change to cocoon, but now ... Andreas Bednarz Am Don, 2003-01-30 um 12.21 schrieb

Time to go back to JSP. Cocoon just isnt ready.

I have reluctantly come to the conclusion that cocoon is not ready for professional development. Unlike tomcat, or Ant, this product has serious things blocking its use in production systems. I personally am completely and utterly stopped by the classpath bug indicated here: http://nagoya.apa

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