I'll go into the rest of your argument later, but for now, what the
hell does this mean? Maybe those willing to buy the product being
produced? Excuse me, but frack your PLATIUDES AND SNARK remark. I
won't throw the same.
Jeff M
On Jan 31, 2009, at 9:33 PM, Matthew Taylor wrote:
You need to double check who you're replying to. And when replying to
more then one, make it obvious.
Jeff M
On Jan 31, 2009, at 9:33 PM, Matthew Taylor wrote:
On Jan 31, 2009, at 2:49 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote:
It has everything with who the primary producer of wealth is.
You have to get
Here I'm going to violate DRY:
After reading the full Joe the Plumber quote, I am certain Obama only
intended to say that the economy works best when there is prosperity at all
levels. However, I think his choice of the phrase spread the wealth
around was ill-considered, and he probably regrets
By taking from the rich to give to the poor via the tax code. I'd like
to hear your Clintonian parsing of the difference between this and
wealth redistribution.
Matthew Taylor wrote:
He just said they should spread it around as I recall.
On Jan 31, 2009, at 7:08 PM, Chris Dunford wrote:
And
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But you can't say the phrase can ever be taken out of context. It was in
the context of taxing the wealthy more the the middle class less.
And I see we unearthed a Marxist who approves.
Marx's slogan: From each according to his ability, to each according to
his need.
John Emmerling wrote:
OK, I stand corrected. I'll rephrase that. Obama changed his position to
the Bush approach four months BEFORE the election, when he wanted to
distance himself from the quick withdrawal and move toward the center.
Chris Dunford wrote:
The change in position you cite, was not part of his
what is the easiest way to get a quote from a pdf into a microsoft cut and
paste format.
i want about half a page from a 250 page document. i do this fairly often.
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By taking from the rich to give to the poor via the tax code. I'd like
to hear your Clintonian parsing of the difference between this and
wealth redistribution.
And I'd like to hear where this is any different from what we've been doing
since 1913, when progressive tax rates were introduced.
OK, I stand corrected. I'll rephrase that. Obama
changed his position to the Bush approach four
months BEFORE the election, when he wanted to
distance himself from the quick withdrawal and
move toward the center.
I don't see where there is this big change of position. The Act that you
I can't help but wonder why Obama can't be taken at his word.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Chris Dunford ch...@covesoftware.comwrote:
OK, I stand corrected. I'll rephrase that. Obama
changed his position to the Bush approach four
months BEFORE
If not a fuse, might the switch need to be replaced?
Barb
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By taking from the rich to give to the poor via the tax code. I'd
like to hear your Clintonian parsing of the difference between this
and wealth redistribution.
And I'd like to hear where this is any different from what we've been
doing since 1913, when progressive tax rates were
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Another nail in the coffin of US Banks.
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I can't help but wonder why Obama can't be taken at his word.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck
Context is everything.
This is seven-year-old academic discussion of the civil
Could you recommend an anti-virus/firewall/security package for my new
computer that does not take up a huge amount of memory but is
effective?
I always recommend AVG. You can use it for free.
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I'm sure that there is a way to defeat this, probably by using a full
featured pdf editor, but it may be what the author(s) wanted.
Yes, but that would be an illegal violation of the DMCA and we don't do
illegal here. If the document is locked for copying you must bring that
up with the
I have no complaint with a progressive tax system. The difference is
that in the past we collected less income tax from the poor and now we
don't collect any income tax from the poor but give our income tax money
to them.
Now we have beaten to death the point that they pay other taxes, and
what is the easiest way to get a quote from a pdf into a microsoft cut and
paste format.
Select the text with the Select Text tool. Then Copy and paste it.
If that doesn't work, check Document Properties (Security) to see if it
is locked. You may need to get a password to unlock the document.
Yes, but switches don't go bad often. Not nearly as often as power
supplies. And many times there's a positive indication the switch is
working e.g. a surge sound when pressed; an led on the mobo lighting
up, etc.
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Barbara Conn bc...@cpcug.org wrote:
If not a
In Foxit Reader (free) I just select the cursor icon (next to the hand
icon) and copy away. Failing that, you can always just print it out
and ocr it.
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 9:52 AM, gerald ger...@slawecki.com wrote:
what is the easiest way to get a quote from a pdf into a microsoft cut and
If you remember, in 2006, Iraq was at its worst. Highest US and Iraqi
casualties, general concensus (at least on the left) that Iraq was in a
civil war. Harry Reid stated that the war was lost. The left was
vehement about giving up on this mess and leaving the Iraqis to just
fight it out among
Marx's slogan: From each according to his ability, to each according to
his need.
The cons and neocons seem to believe that invoking the name of Marx
somehow washes away the possibility of any sensible thought. Just stamp
Marxist on anthing and everything they don't like and they think the
it is a document of public record the FannieMae 10Q(quarterly report). i
presume it is made with Adobe software as the feds have long been a big
supporter and user of the pdf format and usually do not allow funny programs
into house.
i cannot imagine they would lock it. however, when i try
You need to drop the platitudes and snark and make a logical
argument. If what labor produces does not belong to labor, to whom
does it belong?
Here we are back at the lessons of kindergarden. Red faced, with nostrils
flaring, nobody but nobody is going to touch your toys.
Ok, let's
If I can lawfully pay for it, and you can lawfully provide it, what
should prevent us from making a deal?
Morals?
(Silly me.)
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Is this true? Is there a shortage of forums for political discussions
these days? I wouldn't know, as I rarely indulge. Perhaps we need a
new forum - PGUYS (Political Guys).
It is all in clearly labeled threads. If you want to filter it out this
is the right place to ask. Tell us what email
Linkage?
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:10 PM, gerald ger...@slawecki.com wrote:
it is a document of public record the FannieMae 10Q(quarterly report). i
presume it is made with Adobe software as the feds have long been a big
supporter and user of the pdf format and usually do not allow funny
God in heaven people. If nobody can bring this thread back around to
something remotely related to computers, then can we just kill it
already? I'm getting tired of hitting my Delete key.
Add a filter on Resodding in the subject line. I doubt that many lawn
care services will be sending you spam
Special skills?
Read closely some of the positions they recruited for. for
positions that included senior vice presidents, corporate lawyers,
junior investment analysts and human resources specialists.
Many of those jobs do not require special language skills, or can be
filled with temp
I've also had good experience with VLC; and it plays region free. If
you're more tech savvy you can try mplayer or one of its spin-offs that
has a GUI added.
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
John Settle wrote:
Steve at Verizon wrote:
Question says it. Looking for good user friendly interface for
You taking odds? :)
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
I doubt it will last much longer and it will probably be years before we
go nuts again.
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I just downloaded a doc from the Fannie Mae web sit called q12008.pdf
and was able to cut and paste freely.
The pdf download add-on for Firefox would not open it in Firefox but
Preview on Mac OS X had no problem.
gerald wrote:
it is a document of public record the FannieMae 10Q(quarterly
At 02:39 PM 2/1/2009, you wrote:
Special skills?
Read closely some of the positions they recruited for. for positions that
included senior vice presidents, corporate lawyers, junior investment analysts
and human resources specialists.
Many of those jobs do not require special language skills,
At 01:23 PM 2/1/2009, you wrote:
I have no complaint with a progressive tax system. The difference is that in
the past we collected less income tax from the poor and now we don't collect
any income tax from the poor but give our income tax money to them.
until recently, i owned a small business
Very silly you indeed.
My answer was to Stewart regarding European distaste for impatience.
How is wanting to be able to receive what you can lawfully pay for on
a mutually agreed schedule immoral?
On Feb 1, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote:
If I can lawfully pay for it, and you can
On Feb 1, 2009, at 2:16 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote:
You need to drop the platitudes and snark and make a logical
argument. If what labor produces does not belong to labor, to whom
does it belong?
Here we are back at the lessons of kindergarden. Red faced, with
nostrils
flaring, nobody but
It implies that necessity is the highest principle, that is what is
wrong with it.
If all a human deserved is what they need, what is the motivation for
the human animal to produce more than they need if they will be
prevented by government from keeping it?
Christian theology as I
l...@listserv.aol.com] On Behalf Of Steve at Verizon
I have no complaint with a progressive tax system.
The difference is that in the past we collected less
income tax from the poor and now we don't collect any
income tax from the poor but give our income tax money
to them.
Well, I'm
Not really - it was originally to make the wealthy pay a higher share
of government costs, not to simply enact transfers of wealth. Big
difference.
Matthew
On Feb 1, 2009, at 7:18 AM, Chris Dunford wrote:
The purpose of our Keynesian progressive tax code is already to
spread the
wealth
Everything is political, one way or another.
This meandering thread is interesting--fun--in that there's a lot of
information and personalities being revealed. We'll get back to
computers eventually, after we deal with paying for repairing our
infrastructure, dealing with jobs,
Was this directed at me? I whole hearted agree that it appears Obama
wants wealth redistribution.
Matthew
On Feb 1, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Steve at Verizon wrote:
By taking from the rich to give to the poor via the tax code. I'd
like to hear your Clintonian parsing of the difference between
As I recall, I was responding to Tom. Tom keeps going on about
kindergarden toy sharing and refusing to actually construct a logical
argument from first principles.
Tom appears to be of the opinion that what labor produces (or earns)
is not theirs by right - they are only entitled to what
You're right, that doc is protected. If you can't talk them into
sending you one that isn't, you may be forced to ocr.
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:36 PM, gerald ger...@slawecki.com wrote:
link
http://www.fanniemae.com/ir/pdf/earnings/2008/q32008.pdf
If it's region-free, how is it legal?
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:36 PM, johnleehol...@gmail.com
johnleehol...@gmail.com wrote:
I've also had good experience with VLC; and it plays region free.
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Why would it be illegal?
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:04 PM, John Emmerling jpemmerl...@gmail.comwrote:
If it's region-free, how is it legal?
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:36 PM, johnleehol...@gmail.com
johnleehol...@gmail.com wrote:
I've also had good experience with VLC; and it plays region
I just downloaded a doc from the Fannie Mae web sit called q12008.pdf
and was able to cut and paste freely.
The pdf download add-on for Firefox would not open it in Firefox but
Preview on Mac OS X had no problem.
Good point. Sometimes the browser plugins don't let you do everything you
should
At 02:10 PM 2/1/2009, gerald wrote:
it is a document of public record the FannieMae 10Q(quarterly report). i
presume it is made with Adobe software as the feds have long been a big
supporter and user of the pdf format and usually do not allow funny programs
into house.
i cannot imagine they
It implies that necessity is the highest principle, that is what is
wrong with it.
You need to explain your objection to necessity. Seems to me that the
rational person will first do the necessary and then do the unnecessary
as time and resources permit.
Is this some con/neocon argument for
Why would it be illegal?
Because the DVD is locked to work only in a certain region. To ignore the
lock violates the DMCA. Hence is criminal.
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Fred Holmes wrote:
At 02:10 PM 2/1/2009, gerald wrote:
it is a document of public record the FannieMae 10Q(quarterly report). i
presume it is made with Adobe software as the feds have long been a big
supporter and user of the pdf format
And everybody still seems to be ignoring the fact that tax cuts are
about the least effective way to help the economy.
Chris Dunford wrote:
l...@listserv.aol.com] On Behalf Of Steve at Verizon
I have no complaint with a progressive tax system.
The difference is that in the past we collected
Not really - it was originally to make the wealthy pay a higher share
of government costs, not to simply enact transfers of wealth. Big
difference.
You ignore history. The motivation can be seen most clearly by examining
inheritance taxes. The goal is to extinguish dynastic succession,
Some/many .pdf files are scanned, and therefore total bitmaps. There is
no text information in them at all. If you want to extract text
information from the .pdf file, the only recourse is to OCR it. Some OCR
programs will process a .pdf file directly.
Adobe Acrobat includes built-in OCR
it's an Obamarama!!
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Subject: political discussion
Is this true? Is there a shortage of forums for political discussions these
days? I wouldn't know, as I rarely indulge. Perhaps we need
Abby Fine reader does this also.
Stewart
At 03:54 PM 2/1/2009, you wrote:
Some/many .pdf files are scanned, and therefore total
bitmaps. There is no text information in them at all. If you want
to extract text information from the .pdf file, the only recourse is
to OCR it. Some OCR
I put the soundtrack for collateral into itunes, all tags appear correct,
artist is different for each track but album name is the same, COLLATERAL.
Yet iTunes breaks it up so that each artist has it's own album, even when I
tell it to sort by album. Any ideas on what I am doing wrong...? I've
Wow, someone else who's actually read Adam Smith!
Jeff M
On Feb 1, 2009, at 7:58 AM, Chris Dunford wrote:
By taking from the rich to give to the poor via the tax code. I'd
like to hear your Clintonian parsing of the difference between this
and wealth redistribution.
And I'd like to
No problem copying and pasting with Preview.
Interesting!
gerald wrote:
link
http://www.fanniemae.com/ir/pdf/earnings/2008/q32008.pdf
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document is protected all locked up. as suggested by above, wife opened it
in mac preview and can copy it. so much for protection thanks. for info.
At 04:44 PM 2/1/2009, you wrote:
I just downloaded a doc from the Fannie Mae web sit called q12008.pdf
and was able to cut and paste freely.
Tom appears to be of the opinion that what labor produces (or earns)
is not theirs by right - they are only entitled to what government is
willing to release back to them.
The first part of that is correct. It is not yours by right. That notion
should have been extinguished in kindergarden.
BTW, before you get your knickers twisted, you can buy region free dvd
players just about everywhere...might want to get that knee jerk DMCA thing
looked at before you hurt yourself.
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
Why would it be illegal?
Because the DVD is
Does the DMCA cover dvds I got from a friend when he was in Japan?
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
Why would it be illegal?
Because the DVD is locked to work only in a certain region. To ignore the
lock violates the DMCA. Hence is criminal.
I bought in the USA an inexpensive DVD Player and surround sound for my House.
When I got here I realized that it only played ZOne 1. Here in Brazil we are
Zone 4. What a shock! I wrote to the company and asked them to tell me the code
to make it Zone Free. They answered me saying that they
Oh my!!! But if you chewck in Yahoo there are good electronic companies that
sell Multizone DVDs. Not hackers. Good companies... I bought one in the USA,
panasonic and he came already multizone from the reputable dealer. I don´t
understand the reazon why this division of the world in six
It's just not all that different from what we've been doing for lo these
many years, and yet somehow Obama is a Marxist. It makes no sense.
Of course it makes no sense. Con/neocon ideology does not constitute a
consistent, rational system of thought. It is a mass of epithets. They
jump from
And everybody still seems to be ignoring the fact that tax cuts are
about the least effective way to help the economy.
One of my first posts likened tax cuts to spreading money around
randomly, with no purpose.
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BTW, before you get your knickers twisted, you can buy region free dvd
players just about everywhere...might want to get that knee jerk DMCA thing
looked at before you hurt yourself.
Should I make a you list of all the illegal things that can be bought
just about everywhere?
If you remember, in 2006, Iraq was at its worst. Highest US and Iraqi
casualties, general concensus (at least on the left) that Iraq was in a
civil war. Harry Reid stated that the war was lost. The left was
vehement about giving up on this mess and leaving the Iraqis to just
fight it out among
The only think I stamped the label Marxist on is the most famous quote
of Marx. It became the banner for Communism. I have no problem with the
analysis of Marxist thought and don't mind it being taught in academia.
In fact, the only Marxists left reside in the halls of academe.
And I most
And everybody still seems to be ignoring the fact that tax cuts are
about the least effective way to help the economy.
I'm not disputing that (and Obama's tax plans were not about remedying this
crisis, by the way--they were in place before it really started). I'm just
pointing out that it's
Does the DMCA cover dvds I got from a friend when he was in Japan?
It doesn't if you take them back to Japan. You know what they say:
America, love it or leave it.
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do a simple screenshot, save as bmp and do ocr ...many free ocr apps out
there allovertheplace ...
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Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: cut and paste a pdf
document is protected all locked up. as suggested
Your example of the inheritance/death tax supports the guy you responded
to. The money paid by the tax goes to pay for government costs and
precludes the transfer of wealth.
Tom Piwowar wrote:
Not really - it was originally to make the wealthy pay a higher share
of government costs, not to
OK, not everybody!
Tom Piwowar wrote:
And everybody still seems to be ignoring the fact that tax cuts are
about the least effective way to help the economy.
One of my first posts likened tax cuts to spreading money around
randomly, with no purpose.
Tom Piwowar wrote:
If you remember, in 2006, Iraq was at its worst. Highest US and Iraqi
casualties, general concensus (at least on the left) that Iraq was in a
civil war. Harry Reid stated that the war was lost. The left was
vehement about giving up on this mess and leaving the Iraqis to just
The American military also threw wads of hundred dollar bills at the
insurgents.
But if would, of course, be very wrong to throw wads of hundred dollar
bills at Americans. That would be unwise spending.
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Oh my!!! But if you chewck in Yahoo there are good electronic companies
that sell Multizone DVDs. Not hackers. Good companies... I bought one in
the USA, panasonic and he came already multizone from the reputable
dealer.
That is true. I guess it is a form of civil disobedience.
I don't
Yeah Newegg sells all kinds of illegal items...amazon..all full of illegal
stuff.
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
BTW, before you get your knickers twisted, you can buy region free dvd
players just about everywhere...might want to get that knee jerk DMCA
thing
I have a web page in one ISO provider. I am considering moving to Google.
Is there a way I can transfer my web page, as it is, to Google?
Probably not. They have their own system and you have to work within
that. Their system is quite good, but it is unique to Google.
So depending on what your
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 9:52 AM, gerald ger...@slawecki.com wrote:
what is the easiest way to get a quote from a pdf into a microsoft cut and
paste format.
i want about half a page from a 250 page document. i do this fairly often.
I didn't see anyone mention the Snapshot Tool in Adobe
I think you're still misunderstanding the concept. Or purposely trying
to obfuscate. Implementation of cloud computing hasn't really been
possible until recent broadband penetration. But you insist on talking
about 'many years' as if you've been avoiding a cloud by choice all
this time.
FWIW, my
What's an ISO provider? If you only have one page, I don't see why
it would be difficult to move it anywhere.
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Marcio m...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
I have a web page in one ISO provider. I am considering moving to Google. Is
there a way I can transfer my web page, as
If anyone is interested in a well documented and easy read, with lots of
graphs, about the recovery after 1933, go here:
http://bonddad.dailykos.com/
Scroll down to The Great Depression, Pt. I - IV
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I put the soundtrack for collateral into itunes, all tags appear correct,
artist is different for each track but album name is the same, COLLATERAL.
Yet iTunes breaks it up so that each artist has it's own album, even when I
tell it to sort by album. Any ideas on what I am doing wrong...? I've
If not labor's by right, then who's? Who is left but the government?
Not voluntary associations, as they are composed of individuals who
might not share as you see fit.
Really Tom, what is this analogy of sharing toys about? When you
share toys, it is with the understanding that 1.
In what way is a parent giving assets to a child undemocratic? Has
any parent been denied the same opportunity, equal before the law? It
makes no sense that an individual is free to give their money away, so
long as they don't give it to their kin. I really do not understand
the
Necessity is entirely subjective. What is necessary for me might not
be for you. It is therefore not a useful principle for the ordering
of society - it is pure ends justifying means. It was necessary has
been the excuse of many an oppressive government over the years.
I am all in favor
ISP... I have a complex site, many pages:
http://pw2.netcom.com/~mvp1/soloproviders1.htm
Marcio
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Sent: Feb 1, 2009 7:43 PM
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What's an ISO provider? If you
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009, gerald wrote:
http://www.fanniemae.com/ir/pdf/earnings/2008/q32008.pdf
evince (Document Viewer) in Ubuntu works ok with cut'n'paste.
File - Properties reports Security: No
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What really gets me is people always seem to think government is
this nefarious bunch out to ruin our lives. In the US the government
is us. Self loathing isn't new. In fact I think a small amount of it
is healthy. It keeps a person focused.
I voted for Obama. Not because he's black, or
Album tags have been corrected. Even though album has the same name, it's
still separating them by artist even when I sort by album.
Mike
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 4:55 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:
I put the soundtrack for collateral into itunes, all tags appear correct,
artist is
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