One of the problems with Cell service is that it is hostage to
environmental conditions and topography.
Go into a hilly area and you have dropouts of cell service. Hills,
and stuff cut signal. Cities also have problems with buildings
causing drop offs. Many cell companies have to increase t
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Constance Warner wrote:
> If you'll read reviews on cellphone performance in the National Capitol
> area, you'll find lots of places [including some in the District] where the
> cellphones of various providers just don't work.
Getting a cell signal in parts of G
Agree with the Nokia comment, and also suggest another obscure place where
network reception surpasses by far anything in the US. Worth a thought..
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=walbrzych,+poland,+europe
--- On Sat, 2/6/10, b_s-wilk wrote:
From: b_s-wilk
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] apple-stanza-usb
lking about. Things that only work part of
the time. It has to work all the time for me to accept it.
- Original Message -
From: "b_s-wilk"
To:
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] apple-stanza-usb
> I have T-Mobile... There's anothe
b_s-wilk wrote:
> I have T-Mobile... There's another DC dead zone, I think along
Rhode Island Avenue.
Curious. I also have T-Mobile. My office is on Rhode Island Ave. No
dead zone.
The area is a couple of miles north of there, closer to where RI Av
merges with Baltimore Av, in a resid
How often do you wander over 60 miles from your home base?
Stewart
At 11:49 AM 2/6/2010, you wrote:
On Feb 6, 2010, at 12:52 AM, Constance Warner wrote:
Does it matter what provider? I don't have underground service and
I can't afford to switch.
It's not a huge loss--I certainly don't lose a
> I have T-Mobile... There's another DC dead zone, I think along
Rhode Island Avenue.
Curious. I also have T-Mobile. My office is on Rhode Island Ave. No dead zone.
The area is a couple of miles north of there, closer to where RI Av
merges with Baltimore Av, in a residential neighborhoo
On Feb 6, 2010, at 1:47 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:
I have T-Mobile... There's another DC dead zone, I think along Rhode
Island Avenue.
Curious. I also have T-Mobile. My office is on Rhode Island Ave. No
dead zone.
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Does it matter what provider? I don't have underground service and I can't afford to switch. It's not a huge loss--I certainly don't lose any sleep over it. The main point is that cell/wireless service isn't as good or as universally available as it's cracked up to be, even in an area that's wi
On Feb 6, 2010, at 12:52 AM, Constance Warner wrote:
Does it matter what provider? I don't have underground service and
I can't afford to switch.
It's not a huge loss--I certainly don't lose any sleep over it. The
main point is that cell/wireless service isn't as good or as
universally ava
Does it matter what provider? I don't have underground service and I
can't afford to switch.
It's not a huge loss--I certainly don't lose any sleep over it. The
main point is that cell/wireless service isn't as good or as
universally available as it's cracked up to be, even in an area
t
On Feb 5, 2010, at 4:31 PM, Constance Warner wrote:
I've got a national provider and I'm still waiting for access in the
subway. No plans for wiring Metro yet, AFAIK. I can't even get
digital roaming. I can't afford to switch, because the plan I have
is one of the few for which you don't
Back up what you are talking about. A link..something.
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 6:41 PM, t.piwowar wrote:
> On Feb 5, 2010, at 5:02 PM, mike wrote:
>
>> It's crazy stuff like this that makes it impossible to believe anything
>> you
>> say. You've admitted you don't use an iPhone or any kind of
On Feb 5, 2010, at 5:02 PM, mike wrote:
It's crazy stuff like this that makes it impossible to believe
anything you
say. You've admitted you don't use an iPhone or any kind of
smartphone yet
you are full of 'facts'. Then when you may actually have a point,
we are
left to wonder id its t
No Tom I learned it from you. :-)
Stewart
At 02:33 PM 2/5/2010, you wrote:
On Feb 5, 2010, at 3:02 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
So you are stating (I am just trying to be clear) that Android out
the door is a malware infested OS.
And that apple limits the apps for their Iphone because it
Tom you may or may not believe this, but yes I do have a Mickey D's
close by but they have not installed free WIFI yet.
I anticipate them to be the last among McD's to install it.
Stewart
At 01:37 PM 2/5/2010, you wrote:
On Feb 5, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
There is no
It's crazy stuff like this that makes it impossible to believe anything you
say. You've admitted you don't use an iPhone or any kind of smartphone yet
you are full of 'facts'. Then when you may actually have a point, we are
left to wonder id its true or just more Tom troll.
On Feb 5, 2010 12:5
If you'll read reviews on cellphone performance in the National
Capitol area, you'll find lots of places [including some in the
District] where the cellphones of various providers just don't work.
I did a bit of research when I was considering switching services and
found that many big-nam
On Feb 5, 2010, at 11:13 AM, b_s-wilk wrote:
However it's important to consider that there are large areas even
in densely populated northeastern US that are cellular and WiFi dead
zones. Where I live it's a Verizon and T-Mobile dead zone; ATT users
get one bar, on a good day; don't know any
On Feb 5, 2010, at 3:02 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
So you are stating (I am just trying to be clear) that Android out
the door is a malware infested OS.
And that apple limits the apps for their Iphone because it is so
easy to hack?
Just want to be clear here.
You just made that up
So you are stating (I am just trying to be clear) that Android out
the door is a malware infested OS.
And that apple limits the apps for their Iphone because it is so easy
to hack?
Just want to be clear here.
Stewart
At 01:53 PM 2/5/2010, you wrote:
On Feb 4, 2010, at 3:04 PM, Rev. S
I can only hope but the longer they hold out the less of a chance of
folks being eager to get it.
There is another Motorola Android being introduced in March by Verizon.
Plus with the intro of the Ipad, they are again tying themselves into
a network that cannot (according to ATT) handle the tr
Tom serious question how far out of DC have you traveled and have you
ever spent an appreciable amount of time in the midwest?
Stewart
At 01:35 PM 2/5/2010, you wrote:
I seriously doubt that "there are large areas even in densely
populated northeastern US that are cellular and WiFi dead zone
On Feb 4, 2010, at 3:04 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
The only problem with Apples model is that it takes all choice away
from the consumer and gives Apple the ability to tell you what is
safe and secure according to the,.
Not true. You can always buy a malware infested Droid. Their
cap
On Feb 5, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
There is no such thing as a public wifi here.
You really don't have a McDonalds nearby? Unbelievable!
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You are changing the parameters to win an argument. No one, least of all me
said use the cloud for backup. We are specifically talking about cell
phones...
Mike, you mentioned the cloud. I rarely consider it since I don't live,
work or travel where it's universally available.
The discussion
I got a netbook last fall, and carry it with me when I have to take
my wife to the doctor etc. I usually have no connectivity anywhere
as I do not carry a separate data plan for wireless.
There is no such thing as a public wifi here.
I agree with you Betty, it is not a viable option for many
I read that Apple had talks with AT&T and with Verizon, but AT&T out bid
Verizon. I think Apple agrees with your premise; exclusive provider
can't get them the market share they want. So I think it is a matter of
when, not if.
Thank you,
Mark Snyder
-Original Message-
There has been mu
There has been much talk about the Iphone coming onto the Verizon
network, but with the introduction of the Ipad and it's being tied
into the ATT network it looks like a dead issue.
I don't want to get into an argument over Verizon/ATT but opening it
up to more networks seems to be the key.
e new received wisdom.
--- On Thu, 2/4/10, b_s-wilk wrote:
From: b_s-wilk
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] apple-stanza-usb
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Date: Thursday, February 4, 2010, 1:34 PM
The iPhone was a step backwards, missing essential features. While the OS is
very user-friendly, its ti
They have been noting that for years.
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall <
revsamarsh...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> It is interesting to note that Apple has changed its name to Apple Inc. and
> dropped computer.
>
>
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The only problem with Apples model is that it takes all choice away
from the consumer and gives Apple the ability to tell you what is
safe and secure according to the,.
In re listening to the broadcast this morning I remember one quote.
It is interesting to note that Apple has changed its name
I think perhaps it's just that I see the ipod touch/iphone as the start of
the revolution and you may see the ipad as the start. Either way, Apple is
leading the charge on this again as they did on mp3, I just hope the content
wars over ipads/kindles/tablets don't cause more casualties on the cust
You are changing the parameters to win an argument. No one, least of all me
said use the cloud for backup. We are specifically talking about cell
phones...devices that by their nature need access to the network to work.
I'm not putting my dissertation on google docs and trying to access it with
m
On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 13:24:55 -0800, mike escribió:
I sort of agree with the storage aspect, but that is relative also...to some
4 gigs is enough, others want 64 gigs and that still isn't enough. With
cloud based services many things can be left on the net and accessed as
needed from an iphone o
You know it's funny how you didn't actual insert the quote you were
responding too...you know the part where I said Apple was safer...so odd.
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 4:54 PM, tjpa wrote:
> On Feb 4, 2010, at 6:31 PM, mike wrote:
>
>> Tom is really the only one using fear to try and drive Apple sa
Well it's a good thing logic never stops you, we are all entertained the
more for it.
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 4:54 PM, tjpa wrote:
> On Feb 4, 2010, at 6:31 PM, mike wrote:
>
>> Tom is really the only one using fear to try and drive Apple sales.
>>
>
> Mike will say just about anything to advance
On Feb 4, 2010, at 6:20 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:
Since when is Apple's marketing strategy based on fear? Beauty,
utility, but fear? This is something new that has nothing to do with
being different or innovative.
That is quite a logical leap. Suddenly you don't approve of computers
that are not
On Feb 4, 2010, at 6:31 PM, mike wrote:
Tom is really the only one using fear to try and drive Apple sales.
Mike will say just about anything to advance his far-out agenda.
Now taking good care of one's clients has morphed into selling "fear."
The logical conclusion is that the buggier and in
I think Apple has been smart to stay away from big productions about Apple
being 'safer' than windows even if they are. It presents a bad image and
negativity overall. I think it is implied in their ease of use advertising
etc. Tom is really the only one using fear to try and drive Apple sales.
Since when is Apple's marketing strategy based on fear? Beauty, utility,
but fear? This is something new that has nothing to do with being
different or innovative.
And some of us will brave the big bold outside world and get out of Apple's
walled garden. And we are rewarded.
On Thu, Feb 4,
I sort of agree with the storage aspect, but that is relative also...to some
4 gigs is enough, others want 64 gigs and that still isn't enough. With
cloud based services many things can be left on the net and accessed as
needed from an iphone or android etc. I keep a lot of pictures on sugarsync
And some of us will brave the big bold outside world and get out of Apple's
walled garden. And we are rewarded.
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 12:40 PM, tjpa wrote:
> On Feb 4, 2010, at 1:34 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:
>
>> Apple is making their portable devices more closed than their computers by
>> limiting
On Feb 4, 2010, at 1:34 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:
Apple is making their portable devices more closed than their
computers by limiting the applications that can be used on them. Of
course, there are over 100,000 iPhone apps, does Apple have to
approve each one? Why not simply say 'application sourc
On Feb 4, 2010, at 1:34 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:
What's wrong with wires?
What's wrong with horse-drawn carriages?
And it kept an army of poop scoopers employed. We need those jobs!
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On Feb 4, 2010, at 1:43 AM, Constance Warner wrote:
And, as the participants pointed out, without having the device in hand,
there's not a lot you CAN say about the iPad [and similar yet-to-be released
devices] in a public forum on the radio, without looking silly.
I don't agree. The iPhone g
If you look for obvious revolutionary new, you will not see the impact.
Jobs gave us a clue: standing on their shoulders. His intent, I believe
is to change how consumers, maybe businesses as well, view the hand
held, wireless and portable device market by putting it together to add
more value. D
Well it's hardly a paradigm change, Jobs is doing what other devices have
already done before him..and some would argue better. The kindle comes with
free wireless, you can download books anywhere for free. Apple is simply
doing what they have done for years, take existing products and trying to
Yes, with the iPad Jobs is attempting a wireless, portable device
paradigm change. Well worth watching to see how Apple goes about it.
Thank you,
Mark Snyder
-Original Message-
I don't agree. The iPhone gives us some great clues and all the
revolutionary changes it brought will still
The logical conclusion of all this is bad for the consumer. Will we need an
e-reader for each publishing house? If I have a kindle, can I transfer
those book to an iPad? I'd guess not...which means I never bought books...I
bought a right to read them on an e-reader. Are we headed to the same he
At 09:03 AM 2/4/2010, you wrote:
I don't agree. The iPhone gives us some great clues and all the
revolutionary changes it brought will still hold. Add to this the Time
Inc., YouTube video of what SI would look like on an iPad. Also add
what we have seen with the Kindle. And the current problems o
On Feb 4, 2010, at 1:43 AM, Constance Warner wrote:
And, as the participants pointed out, without having the device in
hand, there's not a lot you CAN say about the iPad [and similar yet-
to-be released devices] in a public forum on the radio, without
looking silly.
I don't agree. The iPhon
On Feb 4, 2010, at 8:16 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
Why do you say that current interface ports, still being used by
almost every computer user and still being manufactured in large
quantities and suppled on most computers, are already obsolete? I
believe that your assertions along these line
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 12:21 AM, t.piwowar wrote:
> Studding the iPad with obsolescent ports is not a good thing. My wanting
> better interchange is not an appeal for more ports. The built-in 802.11n
> should be entirely sufficient.
Studded, no. No one here but yourself has mentioned festooni
Alas, Reverend, I could not stop work to listen and would much
appreciate a summary!
Thank you,
Mark Snyder
-Original Message-
No but I am not going to get into a shouting match with you either.
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Or you could say he likes facts instead of hyperbole.
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:21 PM, t.piwowar wrote:
>
> That just shows that you are less interested in discussing technology than
> you are in scoring debating points.
>
>
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Actually, it was a lot better than listening to the usual political
fare. At least the panelists were making sense--no crackpot
theories, no totally non-reality-based assertions, etc. And I was
doing t'ai chi at the time, so I wasn't particularly demanding.
And, as the participants pointe
On Feb 4, 2010, at 12:20 AM, Constance Warner wrote:
I listened. It was about what you would expect. The participants
concluded that the iPad was a developmental stage beyond the iPod or
iPhone, but not really revolutionary, at least for now. They agreed
that there could be interesting de
I listened. It was about what you would expect. The participants
concluded that the iPad was a developmental stage beyond the iPod or
iPhone, but not really revolutionary, at least for now. They agreed
that there could be interesting developments in the future (involving
the iPad and its
On Feb 3, 2010, at 11:00 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
This is what others have been saying in one fashion or another, and
each in their own way, including folks on this list. This is one
thing you wrote saying just a few days ago in response to such
observations:
That just shows that you are
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 7:40 PM, tjpa wrote:
> This lack of interchange is the #1 iPhone/iTouch/iPad deficiency. I
> understand why Apple is so extreme about protecting their product, but I
> wish they could find a better way. The thing that made the iPod so appealing
> was that I could easily fil
No but I am not going to get into a shouting match with you either.
Stewart
At 06:41 PM 2/3/2010, you wrote:
Do you think you will be misusing their intellectual property if you
gave us an outline?
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On Feb 3, 2010, at 3:13 PM, rocky lee wrote:
Apple requests removal of USB functionality for file transfer from
developer.
This lack of interchange is the #1 iPhone/iTouch/iPad deficiency. I
understand why Apple is so extreme about protecting their product, but
I wish they could find a bet
On Feb 3, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
They made some interesting points about the Ipad, and about Apple in
the conversation.
Do you think you will be misusing their intellectual property if you
gave us an outline?
They made some interesting points about the Ipad, and about Apple in
the conversation.
Do not want to belabor the discussion if no one listened to it.
Stewart
At 06:08 PM 2/3/2010, you wrote:
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall
wrote:
> Did anyone listen to the Diane Rhem
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall
wrote:
> Did anyone listen to the Diane Rhems show this morning where they discussed
> the Ipad?
I did not. I am truly not interested in the iPad for my own use
although I can easily see how many would be quite taken by the device.
Stev
Did anyone listen to the Diane Rhems show this morning where they
discussed the Ipad?
Stewart
At 02:13 PM 2/3/2010, you wrote:
Apple requests removal of USB functionality for file transfer from developer.
http://www.techcrunch.com/2010/02/02/apple-stanza-usb/
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