[Cooker] Helix Gnome

2001-01-03 Thread Patrick Poncet
Hey! Just wondered if anyone is using the Helix code gnome version... Does it work good with mdk 7.2... How about menus, does it use the mdk menuing system or does it have its own menus??? Thanks, Patrick

Re: [Cooker] helix

2000-12-14 Thread Raymond S. Swaim
On Thursday 14 December 2000 15:49, you wrote: > > > > (1) Save a copy of /etc/X11/wmsession.d/02gnome > > (2) Save a copy of /usr/bin/startgnome > > Could you send me a copy of your 02gnome and startgnome files? > I found out too late :-( You can use your editor to create them. The contents

Re: [Cooker] helix

2000-12-14 Thread James Ray Kenney
> (1) Save a copy of /etc/X11/wmsession.d/02gnome > (2) Save a copy of /usr/bin/startgnome Could you send me a copy of your 02gnome and startgnome files? I found out too late :-( > (3) Run Helix installer > (4) When Helix installer finishes, it'll restart your X Server. Gnome will > not b

Re: [Cooker] helix

2000-12-14 Thread James Ray Kenney
On Monday 11 December 2000 23:40, Armisis Aieoln wrote: > Tried, but it killed my gnome all together > > dave > If it just does not show in menu at bootup. you must do this after logging in to any other window or desktop manager: chmod +x /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions/Gnome that got me going...

Re: [Cooker] helix

2000-12-14 Thread Raymond S. Swaim
On Thursday 14 December 2000 00:42, you wrote: > Well... So far. I just decided to look into that by starting esd > with a strace. My problem was that esd uses tcp (by default?!?!?), > that is is wrapped by tcpd, that my hosts.deny says ALL: ALL and > that my hosts.allow says nothing for esd... I

Re: [Cooker] helix

2000-12-13 Thread Jean Meloche
On Wednesday 13 December 2000 21:14, you wrote: > On Wednesday 13 December 2000 20:38, you wrote: > > Do you get sound? That's the main reason why I consider using helix. > > Since mandrake 7.2, I no longer have sound with gnome (except for the > > very first time I login after the install). Even

Re: [Cooker] helix

2000-12-13 Thread Jean Meloche
On Wednesday 13 December 2000 16:21, you wrote: > (1) Save a copy of /etc/X11/wmsession.d/02gnome > (2) Save a copy of /usr/bin/startgnome > (3) Run Helix installer > (4) When Helix installer finishes, it'll restart your X Server. Gnome will > not be an option, so login to KDE. > (5) Copy th

Re: [Cooker] helix

2000-12-13 Thread Raymond S. Swaim
On Wednesday 13 December 2000 20:38, you wrote: > Do you get sound? That's the main reason why I consider using helix. > Since mandrake 7.2, I no longer have sound with gnome (except for the > very first time I login after the install). Even root does not get > sound with gnome, so it's not a perm

Re: [Cooker] helix

2000-12-13 Thread Raymond S. Swaim
On Tuesday 12 December 2000 15:51, you wrote: > I too tried it. H ! Now Sawfish produces windows without borders and > title bars !!! Rats !

Re: [Cooker] helix

2000-12-13 Thread Raymond S. Swaim
On Tuesday 12 December 2000 15:51, you wrote: > I too tried it. H ! Now Sawfish produces windows without borders and > title bars !!! Rats ! Ack! Hit the wrong button, sorry for that other reply. :-b Before installing the Helix Gnome packages, save a copy of your /etc/X11/wmsession.d/02gno

Re: [Cooker] helix

2000-12-13 Thread OS
I too tried it. H ! Now Sawfish produces windows without borders and title bars !!! Rats ! Oh yes, here they come, in the time it's taken to launch kmail, download some e-mails, find this one, draft a reply and almost press the send button ! Owen On Tuesday 12 December 2000 5:40 am, you

Re: [Cooker] helix

2000-12-11 Thread Armisis Aieoln
Tried, but it killed my gnome all together dave On Tuesday 12 December 2000 03:36, you wrote: > Anyone has tried to install helix... With success? -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Linux - Cause I dont do windows or ovens! [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL

Re: [Cooker] helix

2000-12-11 Thread Christian A Strømmen [Number1/NumeroUno]
On Tuesday 12 December 2000 04:36, you wrote: > Anyone has tried to install helix... How nice.. Who is anyone btw? -- \ Christian A Strømmen / \ Number1/NumeroUno @ Undernet - Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / \ Web: www.realityx.net - Cell: +47 911 43 948 / Live your life by your dreams, not

[Cooker] helix

2000-12-11 Thread Jean Meloche
Anyone has tried to install helix... With success? -- Jean Meloche [EMAIL PROTECTED] e-gold # 133947

Sv: [Cooker] helix gnome

2000-10-09 Thread Zeljko Vukman
Typo. Should be: /etc/X11/wmsession.d/ Regards, - Original Message - From: Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker] helix gnome > I added the following file to /etx/X11/wmsession.d/ > and now it

Re: [Cooker] helix gnome

2000-10-09 Thread Joshua Jackson
I installed Helix under 7.2 Beta 3 and it worked just fine. Ugg... I say it worked just fine, the installation worked just fine. I never actually logged into gnome or helix. I just wanted all the updated proggies. JJ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ray) writes: > > > I want to try helix gnome under 7.2.

Re: [Cooker] helix gnome

2000-10-09 Thread Ray
I added the following file to /etx/X11/wmsession.d/ and now it shows up and works.. So it is just missing drom the install On Mon, 09 Oct 2000, you wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ray) writes: > > gnome-core-1.2.1-38 > > The big question is why isn't it in the login panel as a choice > > anymore? >

Re: [Cooker] helix gnome

2000-10-09 Thread Ray
I believe it is kdm.. The standard Mandrake login.. This is a rc1 10-06-2000 build. On Mon, 09 Oct 2000, you wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ray) writes: > > gnome-core-1.2.1-38 > > The big question is why isn't it in the login panel as a choice > > anymore? > > That's a bug !! But I don't have it

Re: [Cooker] helix gnome

2000-10-09 Thread Frederic Crozat
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ray) writes: > gnome-core-1.2.1-38 > The big question is why isn't it in the login panel as a choice > anymore? That's a bug !! But I don't have it here.. What login manager are you using ? -- Frédéric Crozat MandrakeSoft

Re: [Cooker] helix gnome

2000-10-09 Thread Ray
gnome-core-1.2.1-38 The big question is why isn't it in the login panel as a choice anymore? On Mon, 09 Oct 2000, you wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ray) writes: > > I want to try helix gnome under 7.2. Has anyone done this and how do you > > start it? I can't even find where to start gnome anymore.

Re: [Cooker] helix gnome

2000-10-09 Thread Frederic Crozat
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ray) writes: > I want to try helix gnome under 7.2. Has anyone done this and how do you > start it? I can't even find where to start gnome anymore. What version of gnome-core package do you have on your system ? There was one buggy version which had a broken startgnome ..

Re: [Cooker] helix gnome

2000-10-08 Thread Ivan Kerekes
t > > when logging into linux. That is if u use graphical boot up. I am not > > sure about how to change the desktop under the console though. > > > > --Khawar Zia > > - Original Message - > > From: "Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[

Re: [Cooker] helix gnome

2000-10-08 Thread OS
is if u use graphical boot up. I am not sure about > how to change the desktop under the console though. > > --Khawar Zia > - Original Message - > From: "Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 7:59

Re: [Cooker] helix gnome

2000-10-07 Thread Gepper
Ray wrote: > I want to try helix gnome under 7.2. Has anyone done this and how do you > start it? I can't even find where to start gnome anymore. Hello Ray. You can start gnome by editing your .xinitrc file (located in your home dir) If it does exist, then comment out whatever is in there and p

Re: [Cooker] helix gnome

2000-10-07 Thread root
Hi I put helix over 7.2 and had reinstall 7.1 t get machine to run gnome agian. ROY Ray wrote: > I want to try helix gnome under 7.2. Has anyone done this and how do you > start it? I can't even find where to start gnome anymore.

Re: [Cooker] helix gnome

2000-10-07 Thread Ray
ging into linux. That is if u use graphical boot up. I am not sure > about how to change the desktop under the console though. > > --Khawar Zia > - Original Message - > From: "Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, Octo

Re: [Cooker] helix gnome

2000-10-07 Thread Khawar Zia
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 7:59 PM Subject: [Cooker] helix gnome > I want to try helix gnome under 7.2. Has anyone done this and how do you > start it? I can't even find where to start gnome anymore. > >

[Cooker] helix gnome

2000-10-07 Thread Ray
I want to try helix gnome under 7.2. Has anyone done this and how do you start it? I can't even find where to start gnome anymore.

Re: [Cooker] Helix-gnome in cooker/mandrake

2000-09-12 Thread Mattias Eriksson
Well the goal is great, but if I got you right you are talking about harrasing the Helix people until they give up. I don't like that plan... Instead we should contact them and offer our help in converting the packages to use the new menusystem. I assume that Helix are not refusing to do this

Re: [Cooker] Helix-gnome in cooker/mandrake

2000-09-11 Thread Bryan Paxton
On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, you wrote: > I'm down for this, of course I'd like it the other way around and have mdk > be compliant with helix-gnome package, but any compliance is good. g I sent this before I finished. Have you laid out a plan about doing this ? At a glance this seems like an eas

Re: [Cooker] Helix-gnome in cooker/mandrake

2000-09-11 Thread Bryan Paxton
On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, you wrote: > Dear list , after reading a post earlier today i have an idea! , we are > a big group here now on this list, and i'm sure there are more than a > few of us who would like the mandrake helix gnome packages to be > compleetly compatible with mandrake 7.1+ menu syste

[Cooker] Helix-gnome in cooker/mandrake

2000-09-11 Thread John Grange
Dear list , after reading a post earlier today i have an idea! , we are a big group here now on this list, and i'm sure there are more than a few of us who would like the mandrake helix gnome packages to be compleetly compatible with mandrake 7.1+ menu system. I suggest that we campain to email th

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-10 Thread Alexander Skwar
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 03:43:53PM -0700, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Yes, please delete all the text editors, mkXYfs, fdisk :-) > > you kidding do you understand there is a real difference between what > you say and what i say ? Sorry, not re

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1) - other menu ideas

2000-08-10 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
"Hoyt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > What people can not like is the way it looks. But it's the Mandrake look! > > If you don't like it you can use another distrib or vanilla Helix. It's > > purely normal to tweak the way things look, in order to get something > > which looks "Mandrake". > > T

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-10 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Yoann Vandoorselaere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > > Experienced users most of the time bring their own config files and so on. > > They are likely to tweak the system and they like it. They most of the > > time use their own menus with 4 entries, or only command line.. > > Ok... > > /me

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1) - other menu ideas

2000-08-10 Thread Hoyt
- Original Message - From: "Guillaume Cottenceau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1) > Bryan Paxton <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-10 Thread Yoann Vandoorselaere
Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yoann Vandoorselaere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Bryan Paxton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > Run helix-gnome raw and then mdk's helix-gnome a

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-10 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Bryan Paxton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > > At least, give them the opportunity to use standard menus, period. > > Yes, this is where I agree also. > > And it's not only what Yoann said but also if we dumb down the > enviorment too much we're going to end up with stupid users. The envi

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-10 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Yoann Vandoorselaere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Bryan Paxton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > Run helix-gnome raw and then mdk's helix-gnome and you'll see what I mean : ) > > > > The problem is that with Helix

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-09 Thread Bryan Paxton
On Wed, 09 Aug 2000, you wrote: > Bryan Paxton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Wed, 09 Aug 2000, you wrote: > > > Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Bryan Paxton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > Run helix-gnome raw and then mdk's

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-09 Thread Yoann Vandoorselaere
Bryan Paxton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 09 Aug 2000, you wrote: > > Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Bryan Paxton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > Run helix-gnome raw and then mdk's helix-gnome and you'll see what I > > > > mean :

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-09 Thread Bryan Paxton
On Wed, 09 Aug 2000, you wrote: > Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Bryan Paxton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > Run helix-gnome raw and then mdk's helix-gnome and you'll see what I > > > mean : ) > > > > The problem is that with Helix Gnome you'll have o

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-09 Thread Bryan Paxton
On Wed, 09 Aug 2000, you wrote: > Bryan Paxton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Wed, 09 Aug 2000, you wrote: > > > Bryan Paxton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > Run helix-gnome raw and then mdk's helix-gnome and you'll see what I > > > > mean > > > > > > > > : )

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-09 Thread Yoann Vandoorselaere
Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Bryan Paxton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > [...] > > > Run helix-gnome raw and then mdk's helix-gnome and you'll see what I mean : ) > > The problem is that with Helix Gnome you'll have only Gnome or Helix > specific programs. > > The go

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-09 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Bryan Paxton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > Run helix-gnome raw and then mdk's helix-gnome and you'll see what I mean : ) The problem is that with Helix Gnome you'll have only Gnome or Helix specific programs. The good thing of the menu system is that you have the gnome, kde, and wm-unaw

Re: [Bryan Paxton ] Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome

2000-08-07 Thread Frederic Crozat
> > From: Bryan Paxton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > gnome icons on the desktop get chunked > > The reason for this is the gnome icons from helix aren't included > > (or is this the reason ?) so all the icons on the desktop get flipped to > > gnome-application-x-gnome-app-info.png > > So I go to

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-05 Thread Bryan Paxton
On Fri, 04 Aug 2000, Franck Martin wrote: > Bryan Paxton wrote: > > On Thu, 03 Aug 2000, you wrote: > > > IMHO, you're wrong. It's not to Mandrake to keep compliant with > > > Helix-GNOME but to Helix-GNOME to keep compliant with Mandrake > > > distribution (and others Linux distributions). They s

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-04 Thread Bryan Paxton
On Thu, 03 Aug 2000, you wrote: > > > IMHO, you're wrong. It's not to Mandrake to keep compliant with > Helix-GNOME but to Helix-GNOME to keep compliant with Mandrake > distribution (and others Linux distributions). They ship different > packages for different distributions, they are not distribu

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-04 Thread Bryan Paxton
This e-mail didn't get sent to cooker(oops) > I spent many hours on this problem myself during the testing of 7.1. If > you kill your ~/.gnome directory you get those bland, unchangeable icons > the next time you start gmc. But simply deleting the ~/.gnome/metadata.db > fixes it. Why the rege

Re: [Bryan Paxton ] Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-04 Thread Bryan Paxton
On Thu, 03 Aug 2000, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > Please Bryan comment on Cooker i'm not the Gnome Team. irk I thought I did, I'll forward what I sent to cooker though.

Re: [Bryan Paxton ] Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-04 Thread Alexander Skwar
> You need to look at this from an end-users point of view. > Rather, a user that has installed helix from helixcode and not mdk and is > switching to mdk's packages. From my experience, people are gonna be highly > pissed when a lot of they're pretty graphics(icon settings) are broke, as > w

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-04 Thread David Odin
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 03:46:14PM -0700, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > Franck Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > 1) oops a file libveryimportant.so is deleted. > > 2) The system cron, check from rpms and find out that rpm whatever.rpm is > > the one installing libveryimportant.so > > 3) The sy

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-04 Thread David BAUDENS
Bryan Paxton écrivit : > *nod* I understand, and I fully understand that it will be for the most part > inexperienced users using mdk. See the follow up post I made to chmoel's > response. I didn't even know about the below bug you mentioned : ) > > But I don't mean taking out functionality of u

Re: [Bryan Paxton ] Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-04 Thread Yoann Vandoorselaere
oops, wrong manip, sorry for the duplicate... -- -- Yoann http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~yoann/ An engineer from NVidia, while asking him to release cards specs said : "Actually, we do write our drivers without documentation."

Re: [Bryan Paxton ] Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-04 Thread Yoann Vandoorselaere
Chmouel Boudjnah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Please Bryan comment on Cooker i'm not the Gnome Team. > > From: Bryan Paxton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1) > To: Chmouel Boudjnah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [Bryan Paxton ] Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-04 Thread Anton Graham
Submitted 03-Aug-00 by Bryan Paxton: > So there seems to be a bug in one of two things. > Your mc/gmc or there's just a compatibility problem between the helix-gnome > config files in ~/ and your helix-gnome packages. > This needs to be looked into futher though : ) I spent many hours on this

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-04 Thread Frederic Crozat
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Simon) writes: > Anton Graham wrote: > > > You are correct that there are some striking differences between the two. > > One that comes to mind immediately is the mdk GNOME's inability to properly > > display GTK themes with light colored text. They look fine in the p

[Bryan Paxton ] Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-03 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Please Bryan comment on Cooker i'm not the Gnome Team. On Thu, 03 Aug 2000, you wrote: > Bryan Paxton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Yeah, but mdk needs to keep the helix-gnome packages compliant with > > helix-gnome. > > and cooker ?, we design an Operating System we don't ship only a >

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-03 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Franck Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1) oops a file libveryimportant.so is deleted. > 2) The system cron, check from rpms and find out that rpm whatever.rpm is > the one installing libveryimportant.so > 3) The system does not re-instal the rpm whatever.rpm (you loose your config > files),

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-03 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yes, please delete all the text editors, mkXYfs, fdisk :-) you kidding do you understand there is a real difference between what you say and what i say ? > Oh, it wsa 03:34 AM when you wrote that, then this is okay .-] i have to admit i am not

RE: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-03 Thread Franck Martin
From: David Odin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 12:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1) On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 10:24:57PM +1200, Franck Martin wrote: > The helix updater is not important as long as the helix update

RE: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-03 Thread Franck Martin
IL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 11:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: David odin Subject: Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1) Franck Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Could you please at least have the mandrake-update read where to find > the mirror list f

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-03 Thread Alexander Skwar
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 06:45:59AM -0500, Bryan Paxton wrote: > Yeah, but mdk needs to keep the helix-gnome packages compliant with > helix-gnome. Why? That's the task of Helixcode IMO. > I then exited gnome, and fired up X again and sorry but it's just friggin > nasty IMHO. Basically what

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-03 Thread Alexander Skwar
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 03:34:01AM -0700, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > we can't ship a tools who can screwed a default mdk configuration, Yes, please delete all the text editors, mkXYfs, fdisk :-) Oh, it wsa 03:34 AM when you wrote that, then this is okay .-] Alexander Skwar -- Homepage:

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-03 Thread Bryan Paxton
*nod* I understand, and I fully understand that it will be for the most part inexperienced users using mdk. See the follow up post I made to chmoel's response. I didn't even know about the below bug you mentioned : ) But I don't mean taking out functionality of updating the menus(which is a wh

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-03 Thread Andreas Simon
Anton Graham wrote: > You are correct that there are some striking differences between the two. > One that comes to mind immediately is the mdk GNOME's inability to properly > display GTK themes with light colored text. They look fine in the preview > window, but you end up with black text on yo

Latest MandrakeUpdate(Was Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1) )

2000-08-03 Thread Bryan Paxton
On Thu, 03 Aug 2000, you wrote: > On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 11:03:45PM +1200, Franck Martin wrote: > > Bonsoir, > > > > Could you please at least have the mandrake-update read where to find > > the mirror list from a file /etc/mandrake-update.conf. This should be > > easy and make us, network admini

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-03 Thread Michael Irving
The new Mandrake Update rocks my socks. - Original Message - From: "David Odin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1) > On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 10:24:57PM +

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-03 Thread Anton Graham
Submitted 03-Aug-00 by Bryan Paxton: > Basically what I'm trying to get through this is, keeping helix-gnome raw, > the way it comes, and only lil minute tweaks should be made. Part of the problem (as I see it), Brian, is that a large portion of our user base is rather inexperienced. When you ru

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-03 Thread David Odin
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 11:03:45PM +1200, Franck Martin wrote: > Bonsoir, > > Could you please at least have the mandrake-update read where to find > the mirror list from a file /etc/mandrake-update.conf. This should be > easy and make us, network administrator, happy...(save bandwidth as well >

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-03 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Bryan Paxton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yeah, but mdk needs to keep the helix-gnome packages compliant with > helix-gnome. and cooker ?, we design an Operating System we don't ship only a few desktop packages... > I then exited gnome, and fired up X again

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-03 Thread David Odin
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 10:24:57PM +1200, Franck Martin wrote: > The helix updater is not important as long as the helix updated packages appear in >the Mandrake Updates, and fast... > > Mandrake DO really need a good updater, with unattended updates. > > This is what I have found: > > In Mand

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-03 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Franck Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Could you please at least have the mandrake-update read where to find > the mirror list from a file /etc/mandrake-update.conf. This should be > easy and make us, network administrator, happy...(save bandwidth as well > as work). That should be easy...

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-03 Thread Bryan Paxton
On Thu, 03 Aug 2000, you wrote: > At 03 August, 2000 Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > > Mattias Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Yes, I know. And ofcource that is the only way it should be. But if you > > > ship helix update you dont ship helix gnome, you just ship a tool to > > > install helix

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-03 Thread Franck Martin
Bonsoir, Could you please at least have the mandrake-update read where to find the mirror list from a file /etc/mandrake-update.conf. This should be easy and make us, network administrator, happy...(save bandwidth as well as work). That should be easy... On the long long term, and very very diff

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-03 Thread Mattias Eriksson
At 03 August, 2000 Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > Mattias Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Yes, I know. And ofcource that is the only way it should be. But if you ship > > helix update you dont ship helix gnome, you just ship a tool to install > > helixgnome if people would like to do that..

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-03 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Franck Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The helix updater is not important as long as the helix updated > packages appear in the Mandrake Updates, and fast... > Mandrake DO really need a good updater, with unattended updates. it's planned, but it's far far too be easy and can take several mo

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-03 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Mattias Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yes, I know. And ofcource that is the only way it should be. But if you ship > helix update you dont ship helix gnome, you just ship a tool to install > helixgnome if people would like to do that... we can't ship a tools who can screwed a default md

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-03 Thread Franck Martin
The helix updater is not important as long as the helix updated packages appear in the Mandrake Updates, and fast... Mandrake DO really need a good updater, with unattended updates. This is what I have found: In Mandrake-update.pm file which is installed with the mandrake-update executable, yo

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-03 Thread Mattias Eriksson
At 03 August, 2000 Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > Mattias Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Well, MandrakeSoft != GNU you still ship ALOT of gnu > > stuff. MandrakeSoft != SUN Still have staroffice on some CD aso. > > GNU do a distribution of rpm packages ? Staroffice do a distribution > of

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-03 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Mattias Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, MandrakeSoft != GNU you still ship ALOT of gnu > stuff. MandrakeSoft != SUN Still have staroffice on some CD aso. GNU do a distribution of rpm packages ? Staroffice do a distribution of rpm pacakges ? maybe yes but all package included in Mand

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-03 Thread Mattias Eriksson
At 03 August, 2000 Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > Frederic Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > A. Where is the "helix-updater" in Mandrake 7.1? > > we don't ship that, MandrakeSoft != HelixCode Well, MandrakeSoft != GNU you still ship ALOT of gnu stuff. MandrakeSoft != SUN Still have staroffi

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-03 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Frederic Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > A. Where is the "helix-updater" in Mandrake 7.1? we don't ship that, MandrakeSoft != HelixCode > B. How are the Mandrake menus built (the consistent menus between different WM) /usr/bin/update-menus >and how do you change them? /usr/doc/menu

[Cooker] Helix Gnome + Mandrake menus (mdk7.1)

2000-08-03 Thread Frederic Soulier
Hi All, A. Where is the "helix-updater" in Mandrake 7.1? B. How are the Mandrake menus built (the consistent menus between different WM) and how do you change them? Dumb questions probably but (B) is highly ennoying.. Thanks Fred -- Frederic Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Son

[Cooker] Helix-Gnome

2000-05-26 Thread John Grange
David Talbot wrote: > The ability to click on an application RPM in GMC or Nautlus and have it > run the program without installing .app style: > http://www.arstechnica.com/reviews/2q00/macos-x-dp4/macos-x-dp4-2.html > > I know it would help me keep organized if an application could be run with >

Re: [Cooker] Helix

2000-04-11 Thread Lord And Master;)
Daouda LO wrote: > ArMiSiS AiEoLn a écrit : > > > Ive grabed it and was hopeing to see it in mandrake SOON! It ROCKS!!! and i > > havent had ANY BUGS > > We've packaging most of the packages from helix : Stuffs are in cooker . > Some packages (gnome-core 1.1.5) are not very stable to be inclu

Re: [Cooker] Helix

2000-04-11 Thread Vandoorselaere Yoann
Daouda LO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ArMiSiS AiEoLn a écrit : > > > Ive grabed it and was hopeing to see it in mandrake SOON! It ROCKS!!! and i > > havent had ANY BUGS > > We've packaging most of the packages from helix : Stuffs are in cooker . > Some packages (gnome-core 1.1.5) are not

RE: [Cooker] Helix

2000-04-11 Thread geoffrey lee
> > ArMiSiS AiEoLn a écrit : > > > Ive grabed it and was hopeing to see it in mandrake SOON! It > ROCKS!!! and i > > havent had ANY BUGS > > We've packaging most of the packages from helix : Stuffs are in cooker . > Some packages (gnome-core 1.1.5) are not very stable to be > included in the

Re: [Cooker] Helix

2000-04-11 Thread Daouda LO
ArMiSiS AiEoLn a écrit : > Ive grabed it and was hopeing to see it in mandrake SOON! It ROCKS!!! and i > havent had ANY BUGS We've packaging most of the packages from helix : Stuffs are in cooker . Some packages (gnome-core 1.1.5) are not very stable to be included in the distro! > > > dave

Re: [Cooker] Helix

2000-04-11 Thread ArMiSiS AiEoLn
Ive grabed it and was hopeing to see it in mandrake SOON! It ROCKS!!! and i havent had ANY BUGS dave On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, you wrote: > I am probably telling you all something that is very old news ! > > Please bear with me, I live in the UK where we still pay for Internet access > and I on

[Cooker] Helix

2000-04-10 Thread OS
I am probably telling you all something that is very old news ! Please bear with me, I live in the UK where we still pay for Internet access and I only have a 56K modem !!! Any way, has any one else grabbed the latest output from the Helix people. It's GOOD ! Owen

Re: [Cooker] Helix-Code Gnome

2000-03-19 Thread Patrick Poncet
Hey! The dependency problems are no big deal... Things still work. What's more painful is the bugs relating to the desktop icons and launchers. I found downgrading to the original Mandrake 7.0 gmc fixes lots of problems with helix gnome. In other words, don't use helix code's gmc, use gnome's

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome RPMS

2000-03-13 Thread Patrick Poncet
Where are those RPMS??? Axalon Bloodstone wrote: > On Sat, 11 Mar 2000, Nitin Raja Bhatia wrote: > > > Hello All, > > > > I will be producing Helix Gnome rpms optimized for Mandrake. > > They will be available shortly. > > Helix-Gnome is real slick... > > > > Raja > > Already done, just waiting

Re: [Cooker] Helix-Code Gnome

2000-03-11 Thread OS
I installed Helix today, and it's brilliant. This may sway me away from KDE ! But that's not what you want to hear ! Having played with gnome for a couple of years I have been bitten by install scripts before. I just downloaded everything and worked on the assumption that RPM was correct for the

Re: [Cooker] Helix Gnome RPMS

2000-03-11 Thread Axalon Bloodstone
On Sat, 11 Mar 2000, Nitin Raja Bhatia wrote: > Hello All, > > I will be producing Helix Gnome rpms optimized for Mandrake. > They will be available shortly. > Helix-Gnome is real slick... > > Raja Already done, just waiting on some files left out of the gnome-media SRPM. I'll put up the rest

[Cooker] Helix Gnome RPMS

2000-03-11 Thread Nitin Raja Bhatia
Hello All, I will be producing Helix Gnome rpms optimized for Mandrake. They will be available shortly. Helix-Gnome is real slick... Raja -- Nitin Raja Bhatia: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> /\ |ICQ: 3417925 | "Where I want to go today is LINUX" |

Re: [Cooker] Helix-Code Gnome

2000-03-09 Thread Steve Fox
I'm using it...I've also filed several bug reports with Helix for Mandrake 7.0 dependency. I'd blame both teams really. Mandrake who should become a Helix GNOME partner because it will improve the quality of Mandrake's GNOME support. It's also the Helix team's fault because they basically just cop

Re: [Cooker] Helix-Code Gnome

2000-03-08 Thread Ivan Kerekes
Hi Mike I was just as careless as you, installed Helix, but I dont like gdm so I opted to keep my startx, (I am using icewm, I have an old Cyrix 6x86 166+, I can't aford to run anything fancy, cpu-hug window-manager). Anyway, since icewm-gnome creates his own gnome menues, I could test out most

[Cooker] Helix-Code Gnome

2000-03-08 Thread Michael Gallagher
Hi, Has anyone had any luck with installing Helix-Code Gnome on Madrake 7.0? I gave it a try, downloading the packages and then installing, but had some problems. A couple dependency problems and that I couldn't correct, libguile.so.4 and libbfd-2.91.0.24.so. When I finished the install