[Crm-sig] ISSUE 609 Homework

practice will be to associate an observation with the negative property. So far my ideas. Best, Martin -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Sc

[Crm-sig] ISSUE 586,557 business model and name

al objects, in particular suspect items. Expert opinions, if possible, from the British Museum about illicit trafficking. All partners on this mailing list are kindly invited to look for other data that could be used. Best wishes, Martin -- -------- Dr. Ma

[Crm-sig] Issue 533 HW, polysemic concepts

Dear All, See Achille's and my homework for Issue 533, to be added to the modelling principles as real life example from CRM SIG discussions. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JhXMH3z8FW55XcyQcQ-XNud1jctTQ-naOf6VJuNC70Y/edit?pli=1 -- Dr. Martin Doerr

[Crm-sig] Issue 294 Missing!

Dear All, am I correct that Issue 294, " * AP29 appears in * AP30 restricted to * AP31 typical for was never entered into the CRMarcheo text? Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Inform

Re: [Crm-sig] error in RDFS for 7.1.1 for the class that is a subclass of E41 and E33

ck, as far as I can understand, to the modelling principles reminded by Martin. And it would also finally solve the issues still open, to my knowledge, concerning the original FRBR-oo class. Best Francesco Le 09.11.22 à 20:13, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig a écrit : Dear bo

Re: [Crm-sig] error in RDFS for 7.1.1 for the class that is a subclass of E41 and E33

that "The Big Apple" is in English with the precise semantics of P72, or that it is not a Name for that Place? Rob On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 1:31 PM Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear Gordon, "The Library of Congress has only recently stopped assigning gender to the referant of

Re: [Crm-sig] error in RDFS for 7.1.1 for the class that is a subclass of E41 and E33

the class, call it Hebrew and then assign it as a name of those individuals. If someone wants to dispute this, they can use negative properties. I don't know if the above wikipedia article is true or not, but I would like to be able to represent that data in the KB so that I could try to fi

Re: [Crm-sig] error in RDFS for 7.1.1 for the class that is a subclass of E41 and E33

through its scope note as applying only to "works", and "can be clearly identified as titles due to their form". I don't think anyone would say that "Douglas Adams" is the "title" of the person. Rob -- Dr

Re: [Crm-sig] error in RDFS for 7.1.1 for the class that is a subclass of E41 and E33

museum related out of CRM Base? At least I might have my long loved E84 Information Carrier back there... :D No offense intended - just my two cents and the perspective of the GNM Nürnberg on the current CRM development... Best, Mark -- -------- Dr. Ma

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Delete E35 Title

data Yale University ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Informatio

Re: [Crm-sig] error in RDFS for 7.1.1 for the class that is a subclass of E41 and E33

to genetic descendence. Is that difference relevant? Or do we distinguish a name being commonly known as in some language from being formed in that language (such as "Köln")? Best Martin On 11/8/2022 9:37 PM, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear All, Apologies, I missed som

Re: [Crm-sig] error in RDFS for 7.1.1 for the class that is a subclass of E41 and E33

;bears feature" etc. I prefer also a discussion to add more custom classes to the RDFS, such as "Active Destruction", rather that inceasing CRMbase. Best, Martin On 11/8/2022 9:20 PM, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear All, I just want to remind that we have a principle e

Re: [Crm-sig] error in RDFS for 7.1.1 for the class that is a subclass of E41 and E33

chnology Hellenic Mediterranean University Web: http://users.ics.forth.gr/~fafalios/ Email: fafal...@ics.forth.gr Address: N. Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, 70013 Heraklion, Greece Tel: +30-2810-391619 ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE: Delete Unnecessary / Incorrect Classes of CRMdig

correctly removing all these classes will serve to a) make the model lighter but just as semantically powerful, b) accord with CRM SIG general modelling principles and c) serve better as a middle level domain ontology for its area of scope. Martin Doerr, Rob Sanderson and Nicola Carboni have all

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE: Delete Unnecessary / Incorrect Properties of CRMdig

of scope. Martin Doerr, Rob Sanderson and Nicola Carboni have all contributed over time to this review or properties alongside myself as proposer. Any mistakes being mine. With that as background here are the proposed deletions: *Delete:* L4 has preferred label: inconsistent

Re: [Crm-sig] P7(x,y) and knowing

called them axioms, and any P7(x,y) for instances x and y of P53 Place a statement.) Best, Wolfgang ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig _______ Crm

Re: [Crm-sig] P7(x,y) and knowing

) with implicit (∀z) P7(x,y) ⇒ P89(F161(x), y) We haven't introduced function symbols yet. From the remaining versions I chose the one with P161 on the left-hand side because then I don't need to write down the implicit "for all" and can pretend there is no quantifier for z at all. Best,

Re: [Crm-sig] E9 Move and its relationship with the origin/destination

_ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- -

Re: [Crm-sig] issue 613 Re: Are there "weak inverse" shortcuts?

.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/li

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE: Delete Unnecessary / Incorrect Classes of CRMdig

rve better as a middle level domain ontology for its area of scope. Martin Doerr, Rob Sanderson and Nicola Carboni have all contributed over time to this review or properties alongside myself as proposer. Any mistakes being mine. With that as background here are the proposed deletions: *D21 P

Re: [Crm-sig] Comparing measurements / dimensions Issue 407

/~fafalios/> Email: fafal...@ics.forth.gr <mailto:fafal...@ics.forth.gr> Address: N. Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, 70013 Heraklion, Greece Tel: +30-2810-391619 ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig ______

Re: [Crm-sig] Is P7(x,y) ∧ P89(y,z) ⇒ P7(x,z) still regarded as true?

ion with the Theatrum Pompeii, on the Mars Field. Obviously inconconsistent. Consequently, Curia Iulia must be wrong. This can be done with F. Best, Wolfgang Am 23.10.2022 um 21:24 schrieb Martin Doerr via Crm-sig : Dear Wolfgang, I would like to add that your argument that the respective FOL wo

Re: [Crm-sig] E9 Move and its relationship with the origin/destination

g list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Resea

Re: [Crm-sig] Is P7(x,y) ∧ P89(y,z) ⇒ P7(x,z) still regarded as true?

53(z) ∧ E53(x) ∧ E53(y) ∧ E121(x,y) z = F121(x,y) ⇔ P89(z,x) ∧ P89(z,y) ∧ (∀w) [E53(w) ∧ P89(w,x) ∧ P89(w,y) ⇒ P89(w,z)] I am not even sure if one needs a formal definition like this. Defining the intersection z is comparable to defining the place y in P161(x,y) as the result of a spatial projec

Re: [Crm-sig] Is P7(x,y) ∧ P89(y,z) ⇒ P7(x,z) still regarded as true?

[E53(w) ∧ P89(w,x) ∧ P89(w,y) ⇒ P89(w,z)] I am not even sure if one needs a formal definition like this. Defining the intersection z is comparable to defining the place y in P161(x,y) as the result of a spatial projection, as it is done in the scope note of P161. And there you

[Crm-sig] About Spacetime Volumes

, /Integrated and interactive 4D system for archaeological stratigraphy /Archaeological and Anthropological Sciences (2022) 14:203 https://doi.org/10.1007/s12520-022-01667-3 I think we should use it as example. Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr

[Crm-sig] Issue 498 HW

Japan; -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, GR

Re: [Crm-sig] Is P7(x,y) ∧ P89(y,z) ⇒ P7(x,z) still regarded as true?

th.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information

Re: [Crm-sig] Are there "weak inverse" shortcuts?

"), but I assume it is indeed ⇒ and not ⇔. Best, Wolfgang ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the

Re: [Crm-sig] Deducing the current custody / ownership / location

___ > Crm-sig mailing list > Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr > http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig > _______ > Crm-sig mailing list > Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr > http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailm

[Crm-sig] P62 depicts example

Dear All, Here  a nice example for P62 depicts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tusculum_portrait There seem to be enough realistic features on it, rare for these times. Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center

Re: [Crm-sig] ΙSSUE: scope note of E13 Attribute Assignment

nd E17 can be applied to any E1 CMR Entity. Why is there a subproperty P41 "classified (was classified by)" of P140 "assigned attribute to (was attributed by)" for E17 Type Assignment, but no subproperty of P140 for E15 Identifier Assignment? Best, Wolfgang ___

[Crm-sig] New Issue following ISSUE 597 define irreflexive and asymmetric

alls within (contains): E53 Place. -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH)

Re: [Crm-sig] .1 properties on sub properties of properties with .1

th.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.Plastira 10

[Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: revise approval status of extensions

-- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton

[Crm-sig] Issue 594, generalized recording

Dear All, Here my proposal: In the 53rd CIDOC CRM & 46th FRBRoo SIG meeting, the Sig discussed MD’s proposal to introduce a property *F28 Expression Creation. Rnn included memory of: E7 Activity* to replace R20 recorded. E-mail exchange: Martin Doerr: /“Rnn was remembered in (is me

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 600 HW

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[Crm-sig] Issue 583 distances

deed measured, requires a sort of simultaneity, except for carrying a clock from one event to another, which again may be a form of simultaneity. All the best, Martin -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Info

Re: [Crm-sig] New issues: Make SIG meetings more sustainable

rson Director for Cultural Heritage Metadata Yale University ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of

Re: [Crm-sig] Homework, Issue556

e West, LB-331 Montréal, Québec H3G 1M8 Canada pat.r...@concordia.ca -------- *From:* Crm-sig on behalf of Martin Doerr via Crm-sig *Sent:* July 11, 2022 10:44 AM *To:* crm-sig@ics.forth.gr *Subject:* Re: [Crm-sig] Homework, Iss

Re: [Crm-sig] Homework, Issue556

a slight deviation from it. I prefer the latter, if we can adopt a well-established vocabulary. Would you create a Google doc for this? Best, Martin All the best, Thanasis On 10/07/2022 09:36, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear All, Attached a proposal how to develop a recommended vocab

[Crm-sig] Homework, Issue556

-- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, GR70013 Heraklion,Crete,Greece

[Crm-sig] Issue 570 Homework

. Please comment on possible highlighting with colours, as I have done, separately from comments on the stereotype wording and syntax. Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems

[Crm-sig] Issue 585 Embedding

e designed for these exceptional cases only, but for every position determination of a find within a layer. I hope this helps better understanding the examples. Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural I

Re: [Crm-sig] Homework Issue 536, issue 583, issue 388 issue 587,

-- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, GR70013

[Crm-sig] Homework Issue 536, issue 583, issue 388 issue 587,

colleagues have prepared some presentation, which could then be included in the resolution of issue 587. Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer

[Crm-sig] Issue 583 elaboration

Dear All, For discussing Issue 583, see my thoughts (at the end of) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dv_CAHmV1_5wCOjExmuTOOeuLBAL947G/edit#heading=h.tvb5ixxmk336 Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center

Re: [Crm-sig] Call for e-vote: LRMoo, F29 Recording Event and its properties

othécaire en chef par intérim Concordia University / Université Concordia 1455 de Maisonneuve West, LB-331 Montréal, Québec H3G 1M8 Canada pat.r...@concordia.ca ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/list

[Crm-sig] New Issue: semantically Replacing Recording Event and Externalization Event

s the memory. Best, Martin -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.Plastira 10

Re: [Crm-sig] Call for e-vote: LRMoo, F56 Externalization Event

Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory In

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Common Policy / Method for Implementing the .1 Properties of Base and Extensions in RDF

scope note at all. I agree. Descriptions are needed within the RDF file, as well as a clear example on how one can use them when creating or querying a dataset. Best regards, Pavlos 1. It is also difficult to easily find all the information about .1 properties. Would it be useful

Re: [Crm-sig] E-vote: LRMoo, deprecation of R10 has member

ia University / Université Concordia 1455 de Maisonneuve West, LB-331 Montréal, Québec H3G 1M8 Canada pat.r...@concordia.ca ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- ------

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Common Policy / Method for Implementing the .1 Properties of Base and Extensions in RDF

Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and

Re: [Crm-sig] More .1 Questions CRMArchaeo

. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, GR70013 Heraklion,Crete,Greece Vox

Re: [Crm-sig] Call for e-vote: LRMoo R26

r http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas

Re: [Crm-sig] E-vote for scope note part of issue 294 (CRMarchaeo)

claim can be made using AP30 restricted to while a weaker claim would use AP29 appears in. ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- ----

Re: [Crm-sig] Call for e-vote: LRMoo class F27 and property R16

listinfo/crm-sig -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.Plastira 100, Vassilika V

Re: [Crm-sig] Call for e-vote issue 517

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Re: [Crm-sig] CALL FOR E-VOTE ISSUE 581

l with individual intentional and social life, and dealing with mental and social facts as empirically observable, intentional (collective) facts as we propose, could only be an advantage. This email therefore relates to issues 504 and 580. I'd kindly ask to

Re: [Crm-sig] CALL FOR E-VOTE ISSUE 581

not for the historian to change his practice but for the ontologist to provide a structure which relates to the kind of reality that the expert tries to describe. As in observation in the sense of physics, the observer can be wrong. Best, George On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 2:49 PM Martin Doerr via Crm-sig

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 504

to producing international recommendation. If Sealit is in the practical scope of, e.g., CRMsoc, and its research questions, at some point in time, Sealit must be be integrated by practice test. All the best, Martin On 3/1/2022 2:44 PM, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear Francesco, May I

Re: [Crm-sig] CALL FOR E-VOTE ISSUE 581

classes to deal with individual intentional and social life, and dealing with mental and social facts as empirically observable, intentional (collective) facts as we propose, could only be an advantage. This email therefore relates to issues 504 and 580. I'd kindly ask to put it there a

[Crm-sig] CALL FOR E-VOTE ISSUE 581

. This is what users adhering to the standard have to do. It “should” be consistently used throughout the document. -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute

Re: [Crm-sig] Call for e-vote to close Issue 409: CRMarcheo generalization of the properties AP12 confines and AP11 has physical relation

n VETO is the e-vote should be canceled. Best, Christian-Emil ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 581

Sorry, here the link! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tij-ihwA64DsSV_S8JZQ3ISUI_7Vuq6la4BD7fhmTmE/edit# On 2/9/2022 9:31 PM, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear All, Here my elaboration of Issue 581 which could not be discussed yesterday. If this cannot be discussed in this (52nd

[Crm-sig] Issue 581

Dear All, Here my elaboration of Issue 581 which could not be discussed yesterday. If this cannot be discussed in this (52nd) meeting, it will go out for e-vote. Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center

Re: [Crm-sig] Considerations about : Issue 580: CRMsoc redefinition of scope

ex.html> au format XML Cours Outils numériques pour les sciences historiques <http://phn-wiki.ish-lyon.cnrs.fr/doku.php?id=intro_histoire_numerique:accueil> Dépôt GitHub avec documentation des cours et travaux d’étudiant-e-s <https://github.com/Sciences-historiques-numeriques> L

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 580: CRMsoc redefinition of scope

y, if using conceptual "standards" from particular disciplinary schools, even from a whole discipline, is intended, I'd expect serious considerations about the cultural bias this introduces. All the best, Martin On Thu., Feb. 3, 2022, 11:52 p.m. Martin Doerr via Crm-sig, wrote:

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 580: CRMsoc redefinition of scope

rlier, in person at a live, even if digital, meeting. Best Francesco Le 02.02.22 à 20:11, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig a écrit : Dear Francesco, I find this text very well written and clear. My only question is, why: " For facts which are established by convention as opposed to pure spati

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 580: CRMsoc redefinition of scope

"Issue 580: CRMsoc redefinition of scope" for presentation at the next SIG. All the best, Francesco ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin D

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 574 HW (was: Scope note/range clarification - E80, P112)

le to P112 for non-man-made things. Could we assign a new issue number to this? All the best, Thanasis On 05/12/2021 19:44, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear All, Actually the class was also designed for cutting parts from archaeological objects, natural history stuff etc. We had a long

[Crm-sig] Issue 571, cardinality of properties of properties

efinitions. —-- -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technolog

[Crm-sig] Issue559

s D2.2 2012;D2.3 2013) In First Order Logic: O12(x,y) ⊃S15(x) O12(x,y) ⊃E54(y) [O12(x,y) ∧E18(x)] ⇒P43(x,y) [P43(x,y) ∧E18(x)] ⇒O12(x,y) -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory

Re: [Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: "causal" in P14 scope note

condition  in the query code to simulate the superproperty. Best, Martin* * R On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 3:33 PM Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear Robert, Yes, scope notes can always be improved! The role of the child should definitely not be regarded as P14. Necessary par

Re: [Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: "causal" in P14 scope note

e scope note :) Rob -- Rob Sanderson Director for Cultural Heritage Metadata Yale University ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- -------- Dr. Ma

Re: [Crm-sig] Foundational perspectives of CRMbase and CRMsoc (was : Re: Modelling an Event's General Outcome Ideas? Properties?)

Please see issue 504. Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH

Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling an Event's General Outcome Ideas? Properties?

t be privy to it, there may have been some furtive activities (E7) that tried to hawk the item. This anonymous E7 is a real event (attempting to hawk the item) and is legitimately classifiable as a 'no sale'. But maybe there are good arguments for sense 2 or 3 or yet

Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling an Event's General Outcome Ideas? Properties?

on of any misunderstanding, Best wishes, Martin On 1/6/2022 9:03 PM, Francesco Beretta wrote: Dear Martin, and (indirectly) Rob and George, Thank you for your comments. Le 06.01.22 à 18:13, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig a écrit : Dear Francesco, Your arguments well taken, I repeat: The speech act in CRM is

Re: [Crm-sig] About ... entity of Type?

ood idea but seems to have some complications to be thought through. Best, George On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 6:43 PM Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear George, I think this is a very good idea. There are thousands of archaeological publications listing items etc. of certain types,

Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling an Event's General Outcome Ideas? Properties?

e properties, we don't want to instantiate an E8 which was triggered by the E7 but with no properties, but instead to just say that the E7 resulted in an activity of_type Sale, or of_type Return, or of_type Unknown, or of_type Bought In. Thus: a E7_Activity ;

Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling an Event's General Outcome Ideas? Properties?

l property to define. Best, George On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 7:28 PM Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: In continuation: "Sold", "completed", "incomplete" are very specific things. Objects are offered for sale, which does not imply anything more tha

Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling an Event's General Outcome Ideas? Properties?

operty to define. Still, you use the term "outcome", without explaining it, isn't it? I honestly do not regard it as self-evident, and I had already written that in previous messages. Best, Martin Best, George On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 7:28 PM Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: In c

Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling an Event's General Outcome Ideas? Properties?

tween "input-output" etc. May be it is time to study if we can create a relatively comprehensive list. Some events may only leave memory as only persistent thing, e.g. performances. To be discussed! Best, Martin On 12/31/2021 8:29 PM, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear All, Th

Re: [Crm-sig] About ... entity of Type?

flips to understand? Best, George ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center

Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling an Event's General Outcome Ideas? Properties?

fo/crm-sig> >      > >     _______ >     Crm-sig mailing list > Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr <mailto:Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> > http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig >     <http://

Re: [Crm-sig] Scope note/range clarification - E80, P112

ase it may not cause too many problems. T. P.S. Amazingly, the inconsistency between the scope note and property range existed since version 3.4. -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics I

[Crm-sig] PLEASE VOTE: New Member.

pport the new member, no, if not, by Dec. 10, 2021. All the best, Martin -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Techno

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Non-human Actors, professional examples

ps://cidoc-crm.org/sites/default/files/Tracking%20Marine%20Fauna%20-%20CRM.pptx All the best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Non-human Actors

ind Eide wrote: Dear Martin, thank you very much for this extensive overview of the modelling questions and challenges. I want for now to pick up on one small comment only. Am 03.11.2021 um 18:32 schrieb Martin Doerr via Crm-sig : Dear Robert, all, [...] * *This chain of argumentation shou

Re: [Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE How to model the focus or view of an observation

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Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling a simulated view on a physical space

orehead" refers to remains of a well-known Minoan sanctuary, where he found "infinitas imagines", obviously Minoan idols... Best, Martin On 10/28/2021 11:07 AM, Martin Doerr wrote: Dear Franco, I agree in all points. Great examples! I actually did not intend to call the

Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling a simulated view on a physical space and Issue 531

I'd like to add, since we discuss the question of observable situations and the results of observation in continuation, the painting as a result of an observation should be modeled adequately. On 10/27/2021 8:21 PM, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear Florian, Nice Problem! Actually I do

Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling a simulated view on a physical space

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[Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: Overview of standards.

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Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Non-human Actors

>> sort of weird siamese twin situation. >> >> Anyhow, I just wanted to to point out that there has been a lot of >> ink spilled over these issues, to no real result. >> >> Pat >> >> Pat Riva

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Non-human Actors

, I am not sure if we required a biologist to be able to model the notion of Birth or Death. -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Non-human Actors

t 11:50 AM Martin Doerr <mailto:mar...@ics.forth.gr>> wrote: Dear George, Robert, This makes generally sense to me as a discussion starting point. However, I‘d like to remind you that our methodology requires first a community practice of doing documentation about such

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Non-human Actors

...I'd like to add that behavioral studies with birds and mammals may be a reasonable scope, but, experts need to speak I think! Best, Martin On 10/11/2021 6:50 PM, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Dear George, Robert, This makes generally sense to me as a discussion starting point. However

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Non-human Actors

ood starting point for a constructive discussion! Best, George -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technolo

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 554 Examples for E4 Period

islands extending along the Pacific coast of Asia] On 10/8/2021 8:24 PM, Martin Doerr wrote: Dear All, Please let me add some clarifications. All valid aspects that you mention .. but with the Russian example I wanted to describe an administrative unit, not to explain the term "ca

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