Re: [DISCUSS] re-visit annotation package/s

2013-04-02 Thread Pete Muir
+1 to drop, I hate them. On 1 Apr 2013, at 10:06, Christian Kaltepoth christ...@kaltepoth.de wrote: +1 for dropping 2013/3/31 Cody Lerum cody.le...@gmail.com drop em. On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote: yes, let's drop them. annotations are

Re: [cdi-dev] CDI-129 and DELTASPIKE-335

2013-03-28 Thread Pete Muir
Hi Adrian, Please add comments to CDI-129, so that when we address the issue we take note of your comments, all of which are relevant. On 27 Mar 2013, at 22:08, Adrian Gonzalez adr_gonza...@yahoo.fr wrote: Hello, Sorry to add more comments on this issue. I have quite a few questions /

Re: [VOTE] Recommending DeltaSpike for Graduation to an Apache Top Level Project

2013-03-26 Thread Pete Muir
of responsibility of the Apache DeltaSpike Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache DeltaSpike Project: Gerhard Petracek gpetracek at apache.org Mark Struberg struberg at apache.org Pete Muir

Re: DISCUSS DeltaSpike-324

2013-03-25 Thread Pete Muir
Hi all, At the moment it's really hard for Red Hat to fund more people to work on DeltaSpike. Without a clear roadmap, and a regular release schedule (e.g. time boxed) it's really hard for us to justify more people for DeltaSpike as we can't see how many people we should offer to get to the

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-113] Review and Discuss ServiceHandler

2012-12-21 Thread Pete Muir
://github.com/rmannibucau 2012/12/20 Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com: :-) Yes for sure. I suspect we dont' need @InvocationHandler at all. On 20 Dec 2012, at 16:30, John D. Ament wrote: The problem I have is that now InvocationHandler is both an interface and an @interface which will make

BeanProvider and parameterized types

2012-12-21 Thread Pete Muir
Hi I'm struggling to use BeanProvider to get a reference to a bean with a parameterized type. I tried: Type type = new TypeLiteralEventExceptionToCatchEvent() { private static final long serialVersionUID = -1563354351612225196L; }.getType(); EventExceptionToCatch evt =

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-113] Review and Discuss ServiceHandler

2012-12-20 Thread Pete Muir
! +1 to #1. I also agree that the term Service Handler might not be so appropriate, so it should be discussed as well. Here is the latest pull request with some comments from Pete yet to be reviewed: https://github.com/jboss/cdi/pull/28 2012/3/7 Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com Agreed

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-113] Review and Discuss ServiceHandler

2012-12-20 Thread Pete Muir
is the latest pull request with some comments from Pete yet to be reviewed: https://github.com/jboss/cdi/pull/28 2012/3/7 Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com Agreed :-) George is working on it for CDI 1.1. George, can you share your proposal so far? On 7 Mar 2012, at 17:05, Gerhard

Re: DeltaSpike Roadmap

2012-12-17 Thread Pete Muir
On 17 Dec 2012, at 08:55, Gerhard Petracek wrote: hi karl, #1 apache myfaces (extval) doesn't implement jsr 303 (e.g. apache bval implements it) #2 there is no agreement that ds is only backend oriented regards, gerhard 2012/12/17 Karl Kildén karl.kil...@gmail.com Hi Thomas,

Re: [jira] [Created] (DELTASPIKE-293) Improve the ViewScopedContext by observing ServletContext and HttpSession lifecycle events.

2012-11-21 Thread Pete Muir
On 20 Nov 2012, at 00:50, Radu Creanga wrote: Hello everyone, Pete, We aren't firing servlet events in CDI 1.1 due to backwards incompatibility issues with extensions. Hmm, I was going off of [1]. There it stills says that it will be done, but ok. This was proposed but in the end the

Re: [DISCUSS] features related to the jsf lifecycle

2012-10-17 Thread Pete Muir
+0 from me, I would be happy with either + don't really use JSF anymore ;-) On 17 Oct 2012, at 10:27, Mark Struberg wrote: +1 looks really good! LieGrue, strub - Original Message - From: Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com To: deltaspike

Re: Seam XML config

2012-09-28 Thread Pete Muir
Original inspiration for xml came from Gavin's design for CDI 1.0. I don't know more details about why they went this direction. On 25 Sep 2012, at 00:19, Jason Porter wrote: It did (maybe it still does), but at some point we decided that wasn't recommended, I don't recall why though, perhaps

Re: @Proxy

2012-09-14 Thread Pete Muir
IMO this is a very useful feature. There was a feature request for CDI 1.1 to add this, but I'm not sure it will make it. On 13 Sep 2012, at 21:49, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: Hi, wonder if we want the already bridged proxy feature (i'll explain don't worry ;)). There are cases where the

Re: [DISCUSS] roadmap for deltaspike-0.4-incubating

2012-08-24 Thread Pete Muir
As I mentioned, Jason is on vacation atm, so I'll just insert a placeholder that he was planning on migrating the XML config from Seam into DeltaSpike. If we can refrain from an extensive discussion until he is back from vacation, that will make the discussion flow a lot better :-) I just

CDI EG requires feedback

2012-08-15 Thread Pete Muir
All, the CDI EG requires feedback on an item in the spec which is not clear, and has been implemented differently between implementations, and is not TCK tested. As Deltaspike contains lots of extensions authors, requesting feedback. Please either send direct to me, or post to

Re: CDI EG requires feedback

2012-08-15 Thread Pete Muir
On 15 Aug 2012, at 15:30, Stuart Douglas wrote: On 15/08/2012, at 11:20 PM, Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com wrote: All, the CDI EG requires feedback on an item in the spec which is not clear, and has been implemented differently between implementations, and is not TCK tested. As Deltaspike

Re: [cdi-dev] CDI EG requires feedback

2012-08-15 Thread Pete Muir
On 15 Aug 2012, at 16:23, Stuart Douglas wrote: On 16/08/2012, at 12:41 AM, Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com wrote: On 15 Aug 2012, at 15:30, Stuart Douglas wrote: On 15/08/2012, at 11:20 PM, Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com wrote: All, the CDI EG requires feedback on an item in the spec

Re: IDM impl feedback

2012-07-30 Thread Pete Muir
Apologies, I meant have it in eventually e.g. 0.4 not have it in this release :-). On 30 Jul 2012, at 11:25, Pete Muir wrote: I would like us to have this bit in, whether it's in a separate module, or core, that is fine by me. On 27 Jul 2012, at 23:29, Mark Struberg wrote: I'd rather

Re: IDM impl feedback

2012-07-30 Thread Pete Muir
And by it I mean the mini-authentication API + credentials + events we had in 0.2 :-) On 30 Jul 2012, at 11:29, Pete Muir wrote: Apologies, I meant have it in eventually e.g. 0.4 not have it in this release :-). On 30 Jul 2012, at 11:25, Pete Muir wrote: I would like us to have

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-175] [DELTASPIKE-219] @Transactional

2012-07-30 Thread Pete Muir
/5 Pete Muir pm...@redhat.comIn Seam 2 we: * checked if UT was available in JNDI, and used it if it were * checked if there was a CMT transaction, and used it (IIRC this wwas to work around

Re: IDM impl feedback

2012-07-26 Thread Pete Muir
Having looked at what we had in 0.2 (https://github.com/apache/incubator-deltaspike/tree/5e4a7eb4de01004206f24ae22b9850e643bffe54/deltaspike/modules/security/api/src/main/java/org/apache/deltaspike/security/api is the link into the tag :-), I think this would be a good point to stay with. The

Re: [suggestion] - Documentation

2012-07-26 Thread Pete Muir
think it is better to had them in the cms instead of by project wdyt? - Romain 2012/7/25 Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com On 25 Jul 2012, at 16:36, Matt Benson wrote: On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com wrote: On 25 Jul 2012, at 16:16, Matt Benson wrote

Re: [suggestion] - Documentation

2012-07-25 Thread Pete Muir
On 25 Jul 2012, at 08:05, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: Hi, CMS should be fine for this requirements then it needs some work but offers all the needed hooks. At least for consistency with other apache projects (a lot migrated to the cms) i think it is good to use it. I agree, it seems like

Re: DeltaSpike planning

2012-07-24 Thread Pete Muir
I think a high level roadmap, showing how we get from here to 1.0, will help a lot: * it will give users confidence that their favourite feature will be added * it will give people planning new projects based on CDI an understanding of when they can start adding DeltaSpike to their project, and

Re: v0.4-incubating adding Seam Config (xml config)

2012-07-09 Thread Pete Muir
+1 to adding it from me. XML config is probably the feature (as opposed to enhancement to existing feature or bug fix) most requested for CDI. I think we need something like this in DeltaSpike, in order to fulfil our goals. A non compiled format such as XML (or YAML or ...) makes a lot of

Re: v0.4-incubating adding Seam Config (xml config)

2012-07-09 Thread Pete Muir
- From: Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2012 12:33 PM Subject: Re: v0.4-incubating adding Seam Config (xml config) +1 to adding it from me. XML config is probably the feature (as opposed to enhancement to existing feature

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-175] [DELTASPIKE-219] @Transactional

2012-07-05 Thread Pete Muir
In Seam 2 we: * checked if UT was available in JNDI, and used it if it were * checked if there was a CMT transaction, and used it (IIRC this wwas to work around abug) * otherwise tried to use a resource local transaction (e.g. from Hibernate) * allowed the user to override and specify one

Re: [Vote] New DeltaSpike Web site

2012-07-05 Thread Pete Muir
I agree, it would be good to get a bit further away from the default bootstrap theme, make it look more individual... On 5 Jul 2012, at 15:45, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: i think it needs a nicer theme (colors) but it is a really nice startup! - Romain 2012/7/5 Mark Struberg

Re: [Vote] New DeltaSpike Web site

2012-07-05 Thread Pete Muir
Liking it more already! What about aligning the button colours with the overall colour scheme? On 5 Jul 2012, at 17:34, Charles Moulliard wrote: Here is a new proposition where color has been changed in the nav bar, nav bar is bigger too, size is bigger for text, change color box in green

Re: [suggestion] - DeltaSpike look'n'feel

2012-07-04 Thread Pete Muir
On 4 Jul 2012, at 08:09, Charles Moulliard wrote: Hi, Yesterday night, a interesting and vibrant discussion took place on IRC channel about new look'n'feel of DeltaSpike. As we are human, with different colors perceptions and different tastes, I have find the time this morning to compile

Re: cdi-query

2012-06-27 Thread Pete Muir
.: deltaspike-jpa-transaction deltaspike-jpa-query ... regards, gerhard 2012/6/25 Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com Well, we were looking for some good use cases for the ServiceHandler. I would be in support of adding it to DS core, now we have a strong use case. Property util should

Re: cdi-query

2012-06-27 Thread Pete Muir
...@gmail.com @ pete: +1 @ java-se vs java-ee features: we can think about a more fine-grained structure (similar to seam3). e.g.: deltaspike-jpa-transaction deltaspike-jpa-query ... regards, gerhard 2012/6/25 Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com Well, we were looking for some good

Re: cdi-query

2012-06-27 Thread Pete Muir
. Just a maven trick. this way everuone is happy and honestly today any nice IDE supports it without any issue. - Romain 2012/6/27 Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com It's insanely complex for a new user. Java is already confusing, with it's hundreds of libs. Adding more complexity to packaging

Re: cdi-query

2012-06-25 Thread Pete Muir
IMO this would be a great thing to add! On 24 Jun 2012, at 16:56, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: Hi, just browsed http://ctpconsulting.github.com/query/1.0.0.Alpha4/index.html and it is really amazing (a spring-data CDI oriented). it is currently based on solder but since DS integrates a lot

Re: cdi-query

2012-06-25 Thread Pete Muir
, strub - Original Message - From: Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 1:53 PM Subject: Re: cdi-query IMO this would be a great thing to add! On 24 Jun 2012, at 16:56, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: Hi, just

Re: About Converter framework vote

2012-06-14 Thread Pete Muir
Agree with Mark, much better to CDI enable a converter framework in DS, than make a whole converter framework :-) On 14 Jun 2012, at 07:21, Mark Struberg wrote: Hi Antoine! DS is imo clearly not only targeting JSF! And I wasn't saying that a Converter framework wont be fine. BUT:

Re: [DISCUSS] deltaspike-jpa module features

2012-05-08 Thread Pete Muir
Following up on all emails sent so far on this thread: * I like Mark's priorities - @Transactional is definitely the item most requested * I like the design of plugging in different persistence strategies * Agreed that the standardised stuff for configuring datasources is a mess, we don't

Dynamic stereotypes

2012-05-02 Thread Pete Muir
Hi all The Java EE spec leads would like feedback on how often stereotypes are dynamic vs static. A static stereotype is one that is defined in Java code, compiled, and then deployed without modification from a container extension. A dynamic stereotype is one that defined in Java code,

Re: [DISCUSS] Roadmap for 0.3-incubating ?

2012-04-26 Thread Pete Muir
A late +1 :-) On 23 Apr 2012, at 06:30, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: +1 for all three On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Mehdi Heidarzadeh heidarzad...@gmail.comwrote: +1 for JPA support. -- --- Nik

Re: Login module

2012-04-19 Thread Pete Muir
Just thinking about the process here. Bruno has certain deliverables with dates that relate to security + CDI, and can help out with API design and implementation. Some of the stuff he needs to deliver is later in the the original plan. So I would suggest that we reorder the plan so that

Re: [DISCUSS] Modularity for reusable parts

2012-04-05 Thread Pete Muir
We also split this out originally in Seam 3 (catch from Solder, i8ln from Solder), and we found it was too much split. We merged catch back into core. I would say we should put both in core, assuming there is no JSF dependency introduced. OT: Is the message name final? I prefer i8ln as the

Re: [DISCUSS] Modularity for reusable parts

2012-04-05 Thread Pete Muir
stones of such a decision are. LieGrue, strub - Original Message - From: Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org; Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de Cc: Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Modularity for reusable parts

Re: [DISCUSS] DELTASPIKE-131 Discuss the concept of exception handlers

2012-04-04 Thread Pete Muir
+1 to @BeforeHandles. On 4 Apr 2012, at 08:44, Gerhard Petracek wrote: hi @ all, jason and i updated the current draft [1] - please review it. before jason will commit it (by the end of the week), we would like to discuss TraversalMode. currently there are 2 modes DEPTH_FIRST

Re: Custom Context utilities

2012-04-03 Thread Pete Muir
). - it doesn't make sense for scopes which are too different (and the spi should be enough to customize the default behaviour of existing scopes). it would be nice if you share your requirements, maybe there is an existing (custom) scope you can use. regards, gerhard 2012/4/2 Pete

Re: Custom Context utilities

2012-04-03 Thread Pete Muir
, Pete Muir wrote: If you are happy to be tied to a specific CDI implementation, you could use the Weld bound conversations - http://docs.jboss.org/weld/reference/1.1.5.Final/en-US/html/contexts.html#d0e5506 - which can be backed by two maps, one representing the session and one the request

Re: Custom Context utilities

2012-04-03 Thread Pete Muir
since instance has another meaning in CDI... Regards, Arne -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Pete Muir [mailto:pm...@redhat.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 3. April 2012 15:20 An: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org; Mark Struberg Betreff: Re: Custom Context utilities Given that it's

Re: Custom Context utilities

2012-04-02 Thread Pete Muir
I'm not quite sure what this would constitute, beyond a trivial base class or a consistent start/stop API. Every context has quite different requirements in my experience, and the hard part is linking the context to the start/stop points, and to whatever backs the context, not the actual

Re: CDI annotations in OSGi

2012-03-30 Thread Pete Muir
Exposing OSGi services to CDI should be portable, but the rest of what is in OSGi Weld isn't so easy IMO, as it actually involves how the CDI container is booted, which doesn't have an SPI in CDI. Mathieu can tell you more. Note that we are also pursuing this as an OSGI spec (David and Martin

Re: [DISCUSS] DELTASPIKE-14 GenericBeans

2012-03-30 Thread Pete Muir
/infinispan/infinispan/blob/master/cdi/extension/src/main/java/org/infinispan/cdi/AdvancedCacheProducer.java [2] https://github.com/seam/social/blob/develop/impl/src/main/java/org/jboss/seam/social/oauth/OAuthGenericManager.java Antoine SABOT-DURAND Le 9 mars 2012 à 17:32, Pete Muir a écrit

Re: [jira] [Created] (DELTASPIKE-129) re-visit visibility of AnnotationBuilder, ImmutableInjectionPoint, InjectableMethod and ParameterValueRedefiner

2012-03-28 Thread Pete Muir
, gerhard 2012/3/27 Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com This was one of the main purposes of Solder, which is where these classes come from. Perhaps we need a deltaspike toolbox module. On 26 Mar 2012, at 22:01, Matt Benson wrote: Could it be that certain classes belong in some DS artifact

Re: [jira] [Created] (DELTASPIKE-129) re-visit visibility of AnnotationBuilder, ImmutableInjectionPoint, InjectableMethod and ParameterValueRedefiner

2012-03-27 Thread Pete Muir
, then? Matt On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Jason Porter lightguard...@gmail.com wrote: For now, the wiki is as good as anywhere else. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2012, at 12:03, Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com wrote: Ok, I see that they are not used. So, what is the objection

Re: [jira] [Created] (DELTASPIKE-129) re-visit visibility of AnnotationBuilder, ImmutableInjectionPoint, InjectableMethod and ParameterValueRedefiner

2012-03-25 Thread Pete Muir
the implementation to core? I can't see how you can reduce the visibility without changing the API? regards, gerhard 2012/3/25 Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com I assume you mean the visibility of the constructors of AnnotationBuilder, ImmutableInjectioPoint, InjectableMethod, and ParameterValue

Re: [jira] [Created] (DELTASPIKE-129) re-visit visibility of AnnotationBuilder, ImmutableInjectionPoint, InjectableMethod and ParameterValueRedefiner

2012-03-25 Thread Pete Muir
are even quite special for extensions authors. regards, gerhard 2012/3/25 Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com Yes, this is definitely all squarely aimed at extension authors and not end user apps IMO. On 25 Mar 2012, at 18:03, Mark Struberg wrote: Is this useful for Extension implementers

Re: [DISCUSS] start()/boot() vs stop()/shutdown()

2012-03-19 Thread Pete Muir
PM Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] start()/boot() vs stop()/shutdown() hi mark, 3 lines would mean that we agree on the merged shutdown and that isn't what we have right now. regards, gerhard 2012/3/19 Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com I'm strongly in favour of the slightly more verbose API

Re: [DISCUSS] start()/boot() vs stop()/shutdown()

2012-03-19 Thread Pete Muir
/openwebbeans.properties - Original Message - From: Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] start()/boot() vs stop()/shutdown() What about if I wanted to stop

Re: [DISCUSS] start()/boot() vs stop()/shutdown()

2012-03-19 Thread Pete Muir
Petracek wrote: hi pete, in my test it worked with org.jboss.weld.context.ApplicationContext#invalidate regards, gerhard 2012/3/19 Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com You can't restart the application context in Weld. I'll have to think on what this means for the API you propose, but my

Re: [DISCUSS] start()/boot() vs stop()/shutdown()

2012-03-19 Thread Pete Muir
/asf/openwebbeans/trunk/webbeans-test/cditest/src/main/java/org/apache/webbeans/cditest/CdiTestContainer.java - Original Message - From: Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] start

Re: [DISCUSS] start()/boot() vs stop()/shutdown()

2012-03-19 Thread Pete Muir
- Original Message - From: Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org; Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de Cc: Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] start()/boot() vs stop()/shutdown() Personally, I think this is a safe API to go

Re: [DISCUSS] start()/boot() vs stop()/shutdown()

2012-03-19 Thread Pete Muir
as well. regards, gerhard 2012/3/19 Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com Sorry ;-) (A). On 19 Mar 2012, at 14:52, Mark Struberg wrote: Personally, I think this is a safe API to go with for no And which of the 2 options did 'this' stand for? :) A.) startRequestContext

Re: [DISCUSS] DELTASPIKE-14 GenericBeans

2012-03-09 Thread Pete Muir
I quite like Bean Family Producer actually. On 9 Mar 2012, at 08:54, Antoine Sabot-Durand wrote: What about Bean Family or Bean Family Producer ? Antoine SABOT-DURAND Le 7 mars 2012 à 16:55, Pete Muir a écrit : Yes, we need a new name for the feature, generic beans isn't good

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-113] Review and Discuss ServiceHandler

2012-03-07 Thread Pete Muir
. at least i haven't seen an use-case which really needed it. that was the reason for a +0 (which still means that i'm ok with adding it). regards, gerhard 2012/3/6 Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com So, you mean just write a bean with all the boilerplate code in it? On 6 Mar 2012, at 15:58

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-113] Review and Discuss ServiceHandler

2012-03-07 Thread Pete Muir
agree on the idea, it should be re-visited for deltaspike (if we really need it) 4) we agree on it independent of the result in cdi 1.1 1-3 is ok for me but -1 for #4 regards, gerhard 2012/3/7 Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com I'm not sure what you mean by a super interceptor

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-113] Review and Discuss ServiceHandler

2012-03-06 Thread Pete Muir
What CDI mechanism would you use instead? On 5 Mar 2012, at 08:47, Gerhard Petracek wrote: +0 no -1 because there are use-cases for it. no +1 because i would use std. cdi mechanisms instead. regards, gerhard 2012/3/4 Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com hi john, the

Re: CdiControl in Java EE?

2012-03-01 Thread Pete Muir
. regards, gerhard 2012/2/29 Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de sounds really good! we could introduce a subset of this stuff in DS and provide a backward compatway for CDI-1.0 containers (beside using a different package) LieGrue, strub - Original Message - From: Pete

Re: CdiControl in Java EE?

2012-02-29 Thread Pete Muir
Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com This just reinforces my feeling that CDIControl and context lifecycle management should be two separate APIs. Context control is relevant in Java EE and SE. Container start/stop is only relevant in JavaSE. I would suggest that context lifecycle management should

Re: CdiControl in Java EE?

2012-02-29 Thread Pete Muir
behaviour IRL :-) On 29 Feb 2012, at 15:13, Pete Muir wrote: I've added the proposed APIs to the doc. On 29 Feb 2012, at 14:18, Gerhard Petracek wrote: i agree with pete. we can create a draft at [1]. regards, gerhard [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DeltaSpike/CDI+1.1

Re: starting new modules

2012-02-20 Thread Pete Muir
+1 On 16 Feb 2012, at 09:02, Gerhard Petracek wrote: hi @ all, you might have seen that i committed the initial version of [1] and [2]. right now we can't commit the corresponding tests, because we have to wait for a new version of arquillian. therefore i pushed them to [3]. the

Re: Issues with arquillian archives on WebLogic 12c - wrong beans.xml file location

2012-02-20 Thread Pete Muir
On 20 Feb 2012, at 15:10, Dan Allen wrote: The location of beans.xml in a war that Rudy suggests is correct, according to the spec. We've discussed this issue frequently on various mailinglists and forums because the general consensus is that a web archive should support honor either

Re: Issues with arquillian archives on WebLogic 12c - wrong beans.xml file location

2012-02-20 Thread Pete Muir
I think how this works is interpreted differently by everyone. So for now we assume that it doesn't work there. And for CDI 1.1 we explicitly list it as a location to be supported and force people to support it (Stuart). On 20 Feb 2012, at 15:37, Mark Struberg wrote: The CDI spec might be

Re: [DISCUSS] bootstrap api

2012-02-15 Thread Pete Muir
a multi-page dialogue gets opened and ends when it will finally be stored. etc. Of course for custom scopes this needs to be refined or the Extension providing this scope must allow us to control this. LieGrue, strub - Original Message - From: Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com

Re: [DISCUSS] bootstrap api

2012-02-10 Thread Pete Muir
+1 to the idea but I would want to discuss the API in quite a lot of detail. On 9 Feb 2012, at 10:13, Mark Struberg wrote: Hi! I developed an API to bootstrap and control CDI containers from within a SE application [1]. This was originally developed to make OpenWebBeans SE applications

Re: [VOTE] Release of Apache DeltaSpike 0.1-incubating

2012-02-06 Thread Pete Muir
+1 On 4 Feb 2012, at 01:22, Gerhard Petracek wrote: Hi, I'd like to call a VOTE on releasing Apache DeltaSpike 0.1-incubating. Maven staging repository: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachedeltaspike-187/ Source release:

Re: [DISCUSS] modules and basic tasks for deltaspike v0.2

2012-01-30 Thread Pete Muir
On 30 Jan 2012, at 01:01, Shane Bryzak wrote: On 27/01/12 16:55, Gerhard Petracek wrote: hi @ all, (i planned to send this mail after starting the release procedure for v0.1. however, the review phase for v0.1 is going to end soon and we have seen several other discussions already.)

Re: supporting different approaches,...

2012-01-30 Thread Pete Muir
Sorry, yes, I was to specific calling out Gerhard ;-) On 30 Jan 2012, at 12:57, Pete Muir wrote: I think we're suffering from a communication problem here, rather than a different philosophy ;-) What we are proposing is an API/SPI abstraction which delegates the actual work to other

Re: supporting different approaches,...

2012-01-30 Thread Pete Muir
of the security module we might have multiple impl. modules) or users aren't interested in using one of our impl. module at all, but the other deltaspike modules need an api/spi to use it - if the user adds an impl module to the application) regards, gerhard 2012/1/30 Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com

Re: Question on integration test structure

2012-01-26 Thread Pete Muir
Yep. It will be great to see Deltaspike running well on all Java EE servers and beyond! On 26 Jan 2012, at 18:17, Mark Struberg wrote: Hi Joseph! That's great news! You might already know Rudy De Busscher who is also very active on Apache MyFaces. He is already helping out by

Re: [DISCUSS] Logging

2012-01-25 Thread Pete Muir
Also, On 25 Jan 2012, at 09:25, Gerhard Petracek wrote: 1) -1 for i18n logging (i think we agree on it already) I know our product managers are after i8ln for log messages - at least INFO (IIRC) and above should be l10n'd. I'll try to share the why when I've chatted to them. So, I'm +0

Re: [DISCUSS] Logging

2012-01-25 Thread Pete Muir
Message - From: Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Logging Also, On 25 Jan 2012, at 09:25, Gerhard Petracek wrote: 1) -1 for i18n logging (i think we agree on it already) I

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-54] AnnotationInstanceProvider

2012-01-19 Thread Pete Muir
+0.5 from me as well. I would want to see AnnotationInstanceProvider enhanced to have the ability to create a memberless annotation instance without having to provide an empty map as an argument. I would like to spend some time considering a type safe approach such as Matt's *in addition to*

Re: Please review DELTASPIKE-45

2012-01-18 Thread Pete Muir
The idea behind the redefiner was to allow the use of a limited form of a closure to work over the class. Every annotation on the class will receive a callback to the function, in which you can decide how to use the annotation (replace, keep etc). This gives you access to the context in which

Re: Please review DELTASPIKE-45

2012-01-18 Thread Pete Muir
, it's possible imperatively, but messy imo, as you need to iterate over a lot of stuff to get there. On 18 Jan 2012, at 15:51, Pete Muir wrote: The idea behind the redefiner was to allow the use of a limited form of a closure to work over the class. Every annotation on the class will receive

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-53] annotation literals for std. cdi annotations

2012-01-18 Thread Pete Muir
+1 On 18 Jan 2012, at 16:47, Gerhard Petracek wrote: hi @ all, while reviewing DELTASPIKE-45 i saw that some literal implementations for std. cdi annotations got into deltaspike as well. in myfaces codi we also have some literal implementations. esp. for DELTASPIKE-45 they make a lot of

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-54] dynamic literal-helper for simple annotations

2012-01-18 Thread Pete Muir
+1. Solder offers the same - https://github.com/seam/solder/blob/master/api/src/main/java/org/jboss/solder/reflection/AnnotationInstanceProvider.java Solder also allows you to pass in a map of values. Does CODI have a ComplexLiteral that does this? On 18 Jan 2012, at 17:08, Gerhard Petracek

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-54] dynamic literal-helper for simple annotations

2012-01-18 Thread Pete Muir
stuff soon I think? On 18 Jan 2012, at 17:27, Gerhard Petracek wrote: no - it's just that simple. ok - i'll edit the issue to review and discuss AnnotationInstanceProvider. thx regards, gerhard 2012/1/18 Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com +1. Solder offers the same - https://github.com

Re: IP discussion

2012-01-15 Thread Pete Muir
in the DeltaSpike repo) says Copyright 2011, Red Hat, Inc. and/or its affiliates, and individual contributors by the @authors tag. The @authors tag cites Stuart Douglas and Pete Muir, so I read the notice as saying that copyright is shared between these individuals and Red Hat

Re: IP discussion

2012-01-15 Thread Pete Muir
On 15 Jan 2012, at 16:22, Mark Struberg wrote: Copyright 2011, Red Hat, Inc. and/or its affiliates, and individual contributors by the @authors tag. To clarify this as well. This doesn't mean a 'shared' ownership! Usually this wording in an OSS license is used to express that both the

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-7] ExpressionActivated

2012-01-03 Thread Pete Muir
I like this :-) On 3 Jan 2012, at 19:33, Arne Limburg wrote: @Exclude could be used in a sentence: @Exclude(inProjectStage=Production.class) @Exclude(notInProjectStage=UnitTest.class) @Exclude(onExpression=...) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Pete Muir [mailto:pm...@redhat.com

Re: separate parent module - why not use the pom.xml from the main folder as parent?

2011-12-24 Thread Pete Muir
This is no longer true, Eclipse (m2e) supports both approaches nowadays. On 23 Dec 2011, at 23:02, Dan Allen wrote: I agree that it potentially puts some bumps in the road, but the benefit is that you can import that parent into the IDE when it's adjacent to the other modules. When it's above

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-24 Thread Pete Muir
We chose @Veto originally, as it didn't deviate from the spec's veto() method, so should be less of a learning curve. I don't like @Deactivate as it makes it sound like you have to activate other beans. @Ignore is too overloaded a term for me to be comfortable with it (@IgnoreWarnings). I like