Re: [marketing] OpenOffice.org 3.0 Beta Release notes and other marketing materials ?

2008-05-04 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
eric.bachard wrote: Hi Erwin, Erwin Tenhumberg a écrit : Hi all, I have started a wiki page for collecting content for the OpenOffice.org 3.0 feature list page that I talked about before: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_3.0_Feature_List That's a nice work. tha

Re: [marketing] OpenOffice.org 3.0 Beta Release notes and other marketing materials ?

2008-05-02 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
;d like to invite everybody to contribute to the wiki page as well! Thanks a lot and all the best, Erwin Erwin Tenhumberg wrote: Luis, and others, Since OpenOffice.org 3.0 is a new major release, I think we need to prepare more marketing material than we did for the minor releases between 2

Re: [marketing] OpenOffice.org 3.0 Beta Release notes and other marketing materials ?

2008-04-29 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
* Quickstarter for GNU/Linux I never saw this feature in a final vanilla build. I've only seen it in ooo-build and in a vanilla release candidate, so you may want to exclude it from this list. Hmm, o.k., I have to look into this, but I guess the Quickstarter isn't the coolest feature anyway.

Re: [marketing] OpenOffice.org 3.0 Beta Release notes and other marketing materials ?

2008-04-28 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
g and testing. Just let me Know how can I help. Best regards Luis e. Vásquez r. OpenOffice.org volunteer & support /---Mensaje original---/ /*De:*/ Erwin Tenhumberg <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> /*Fecha:*/ 25/04/2008 06:19:16 a. /*Para:*/ dev@marketing.openoff

Re: [marketing] OpenOffice.org 3.0 Beta Release notes and other marketing materials ?

2008-04-25 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
BTW, who is willing to help with screenshots and feature descriptions? We even might want to include screencasts of key features. Is anybody interested in helping with the OpenOffice.org 3.0 beta "launch plan"? It would be useful to have some people help with writing feature descriptions, taki

Re: [marketing] OpenOffice.org 3.0 Beta Release notes and other marketing materials ?

2008-04-21 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
For 3.0 Beta, I think, it would be nice to have a feature list similar to the ones we had for 1.1 and 2.0 again: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/2.0/index.html http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/1.1/index.html Since one key target audience for that page would be all the co

[marketing] Who is located in the San Francisco Bay Area and likes doing booth duty?

2008-04-01 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Hi all, Who is located in the San Francisco Bay Area and likes doing booth duty for OpenOffice.org and ODF? Every now and then there is an event from Sun where OpenOffice.org gets the opportunity to demo the OpenOffice.org application as well as the project/community. In those cases it often

Re: [marketing] OOo 2.4 release notes

2008-03-02 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Cor Nouws wrote: Hi Joost, Joost Andrae wrote (3-3-2008 0:00) please let also Martin Hollmichel know when it's finished. I'll be on CeBIT next week and Martin will stand-in for me (regarding the release). Done - mailed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have a good time at the CeBIT! Cor, thanks a lot fo

Re: [marketing] OOo 2.4 release notes

2008-02-15 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
est, Erwin Cor Nouws wrote: Hi Erwin, Erwin Tenhumberg wrote (8-2-2008 14:27) Where are we with the OpenOffice.org 2.4 release notes? This says it al: http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=26198 Has anybody already started? In what areas is help needed? I&

Re: [marketing] OOo 2.4 release notes

2008-02-08 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Cor, Sophie, ... Where are we with the OpenOffice.org 2.4 release notes? Has anybody already started? In what areas is help needed? All the best, Erwin Cor Nouws wrote: Cor Nouws wrote (3-2-2008 11:14) Fine that you think it is OK. Then I'll drop a note on the forum (see below). Done

Re: [Marketing] Developer oriented Flyer

2007-11-16 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Hi Sophie, Great idea! Actually I had a similar idea just the other day because I think it's time to "recruit" more developers and ISV's. However, I doubt that we already have such a flyer. Maybe we even want to create a white paper. I definitely would like to work together with you on such a doc

Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-27 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
I can't see any economic reason for a system builder installing MS Works on a computer instead of OOo unless M$ is actually paying them to do it. System builders might not get money for installing MS Works, but they might get money (e.g. via revenue sharing) from selling upgrades to the full MS

Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-27 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Things like the OOo facebook group, more Youtube Videos and more presence on things like stumble upon, digg, youtube, slideshare, mugshot and so on. Also the need of more non profit entities in countries so that openoffice.org scale to large deployments. basically we are finding that OOo ven

Re: [Marketing] Upcoming marketing campaign: Targets and design

2007-08-29 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Also, we should consider a sponsored Facebook Group or other Facebook-based advertising. Apple has one specifically targeting students, and has built up over 400,000 group members. (We do have a free group already, "OpenOffice.org Users", which might be enough.) Or perhaps some other types of a

Re: [Marketing] a new idea how to attract new users, companies ...

2007-08-29 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Hi, I'm not saying this already exists, but I thought it would be useful to highlight the following existing wiki pages again: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Market_Share_Analysis http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Major_OpenOffice.org_Deployments http://wiki.services.openoffice.

Re: [Marketing] Who is located in the San Francisco Bay Area and would be interested in helping with booth duty?

2007-04-27 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: On 2007-04-27, at 10:14 , Erwin Tenhumberg wrote: Hi all, Who here on this list is located in the San Francisco Bay Area and would be interested in helping with booth duty? OpenOffice.org will have a presence in the exhibition area at JavaOne, and I would not mind

[Marketing] Who is located in the San Francisco Bay Area and would be interested in helping with booth duty?

2007-04-27 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Hi all, Who here on this list is located in the San Francisco Bay Area and would be interested in helping with booth duty? OpenOffice.org will have a presence in the exhibition area at JavaOne, and I would not mind a little help. Cheers, Erwin --

[Marketing] Tools for quick polls?

2007-04-03 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Hi all, Quick question. I hope you can help me. What tools (online services and software tools that can be installed on a server) do you know that can be used to setup "quick polls", i.e. online polls that last for a few days and where participants can view the voting results? Thanks, Erwin -

[Marketing] Promoting open source in education

2007-03-02 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
I was just made aware of the following OpenSolaris learning resources that can be used by universities as part of their curriculum: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/edu/curriculum_development/ Maybe we could come up with similar topics for OpenOffice.org!? Cheers, Erwin ---

[Marketing] FYI: OpenOffice.org wins in the 2006 LinuxQuestions.org Members Choice Award

2007-02-20 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
FYI "The polls are closed and the results are in for the 2006 LinuxQuestions.org Members Choice Awards (http://www.linuxquestions.org/awards/). Among the winners are Ubuntu, Firefox, MySQL and OpenOffice.org. The Members Choice Awards allow members of the Linux community to choose their favorite

Re: [Marketing] OpenOffice.org usage in public hospital

2007-02-07 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
One more thing. Can you add the success story to our wiki page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Market_Share_Analysis Thanks, Erwin Görkem Çetin wrote: Hi For the last 3 years, OpenOffice.org products have been successfully used in Ankara Atatürk Public Hospital, just exceeding 5

Re: [Marketing] OpenOffice.org usage in public hospital

2007-02-07 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
These are great news! Do you have a public link? Thanks Erwin Görkem Çetin wrote: Hi For the last 3 years, OpenOffice.org products have been successfully used in Ankara Atatürk Public Hospital, just exceeding 500 clients. Thanks to everyone who made OpenOffice.org the best open source offic

Re: [Marketing] New Marketing Project Lead?

2007-02-06 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
I clarified it on my blog (at least from my perspective, Simon can correct me). Simon was referring to the marketing people at Sun, not the people subscribed to this alias, i.e. the members of the OpenOffice.org marketing project. ;-) I report to Simon since July 2006. Others have joined his team

Re: [Marketing] Ministry of Justice of Finland chooses OpenOffice

2006-12-05 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Great news! Marko, thanks a lot for sending this to the marketing list. Best regards, Erwin Marko Gronroos wrote: (I hope this is the most suitable list for these news.) Ministry of Justice of Finland has made the decision to adopt the Open Source OpenOffice.org suite as its office software

Re: [Marketing] OpenOffice.org's Norwegian group wins 30,000NOK prize

2006-10-29 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Wow! These are great news! Erwin Lars D. Noodén wrote: Below is a fast and sloppy translation of the article. The original is here: http://www.digi.no/php/art.php?id=355064 -Lars OpenOffice.org translators receive prize by Eirik Rossen This years prize for advancement of Free Software went

Re: [Marketing] Looking for a two-page OpenOffice.org flyer (both, the application and the project)

2006-10-11 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Two page brochure is a bit of a misnomer, in that there are always four pages.:-) You may like to check out the "2page brochure" template at http://documentation.openoffice.org/Samples_Templates/User/template_2_x/brochure_2page.ott and see if it can be adapted to your goals. I'm looking for an

Re: [Marketing] Looking for a two-page OpenOffice.org flyer (both, the application and the project)

2006-10-11 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
06 07:47, Erwin Tenhumberg wrote: Hi all, Do we have a two-page OpenOffice.org flyer that talks about both, the application and the project? I'm aware of the 4-page flyer at http://marketing.openoffice.org/2.0/marketingmaterials.html However, even though the flyer is very nice, it doe

Re: [Marketing] Looking for a two-page OpenOffice.org flyer (both, the application and the project)

2006-09-20 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
I've got a bit of time today. I'll start on one Great! Thanks a lot! Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Marketing] Looking for a two-page OpenOffice.org flyer (both, the application and the project)

2006-09-18 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Hi all, Do we have a two-page OpenOffice.org flyer that talks about both, the application and the project? I'm aware of the 4-page flyer at http://marketing.openoffice.org/2.0/marketingmaterials.html However, even though the flyer is very nice, it does not talk enough about the project and

Re: [Marketing] OOo reference about OpenDocument

2006-09-17 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
I thought it was already listed. In our last ODF Adoption TC call it was mentioned that StarOffice, IBM Workplace and OpenOffice.org (and others) were already listed. Unfortunately, I did not double check. Sorry! Probably we can take a paragraph from the features/overview pages!? Erwin Lauren

Re: [Marketing] Marketing Project get-together at OOoCon

2006-08-31 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
I will already spent the weekend in Lyon. Thus, any time should work for me. Cheers, Erwin John McCreesh wrote: I'd like to have a get-together of Marketing Project folks - particularly MarCons - at OOoConf during the "community meetings" day (Monday) http://marketing.openoffice.org/ooocon200

Re: [Marketing] France says OpenOffice.org is not secure enough

2006-08-15 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Finn Gruwier Larsen wrote: It's very interesting to see that Microsoft once again is behind this OOo FUD. Can we use this important information from Simon in an official answer to the attack? I guess we should not use the information and I'm not convinced that it is a wise thing to do, i.e.

Re: [Marketing] Fwd: Suggestion for major media ads

2006-07-21 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Have we ever done this? Yes and no. We once got an offer from a Munich-based newspaper with a circulation of 800,000 copies. Since they are/were using OpenOffice.org themselves, they wanted to give something back by printing ads for free in cases where they have free ad space. I created a few ad

[Marketing] Re: [project leads] changes in leads of Marketing Project

2006-07-03 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Hello Jacqueline, Thanks a lot for all your help and hard work! I hopt to see you again at some future OpenOffice.org Conference! Cheers, Erwin Jacqueline McNally wrote: Hello I would like to formally advise that John and Cristian are the new leads of the Marketing Project, and have been f

[Marketing] FYI: ODF in India

2006-06-23 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
FYI "Welcoming this initiative and highlighting its importance in Indian IT Scenario, Chandershekhar, secretary, Ministry of Information & Technology, Government of India said, "We are glad to note that with formation of a National ODF alliance, India too would be playing a pivotal role in spearh

[Marketing] FYI: Belgian government chooses OpenDocument - ZDNet UK News

2006-06-23 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
FYI "The OpenDocument Format (ODF) is to be the standard format for exchanging documents within the Belgian government. This proposal, which is expected to be approved by Belgium's Council of Ministers on Friday, increases the pressure from governments worldwide on Microsoft to embrace open stand

[Marketing] REMINDER: CFP deadline for OOoCon 2006 is 1 June 2006!!!

2006-05-17 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Hello everybody, This is just a short reminder that the deadline for the call for papers (CFP) for the OpenOffice.org Conference 2006 is approaching very quickly. There are only about two weeks left. The deadline is 1 June 2006! Details about the CFP can be found here: http://marketing.openoffic

Re: [Marketing] Draft OpenOffice.org Solutions page / Input welcome!

2006-05-09 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Shouldn't that list also include: i) IME's; ii) Translation Tools --- both machine & human; Which ones come to your mind? Cheers, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTE

[Marketing] Draft OpenOffice.org Solutions page / Input welcome!

2006-05-05 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Hi all, Since many (potential) OpenOffice.org users are looking for complementary tools and applications (both open source and commercial), I put together a draft OpenOffice.org Solutions page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Solutions Any solution that can help users to

Re: [Marketing] new co-lead

2006-04-24 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Welcome Cristian! Great to have you on the project! All the best, Erwin Jacqueline McNally wrote: Hello I would like to announce a new co-lead of the Marketing Project, Cristian Driga. As one of the most active contributors I'm sure you will agree that Cristian needs little or no introduct

[Marketing] FYI: New OpenOffice.org T-Shirts on CafePress.com

2006-04-05 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
FYI There are some new OpenOffice.org t-shirts on CafePress.com! The design ideas come from the recent Sun Redmond bus campaign. Here is the URL: http://www.cafepress.com/sunopensource Cheers, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

[Marketing] Your help is needed! - OOoCon 2006 Preparations

2006-03-04 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Hi all, Here are some to-do's for people who want to help with doing marketing for the project (not just the application or the OpenDocument format). Both the location and the dates for the next OpenOffice.org conference are fixed. What needs to happen now - in close collaboration with the Frenc

[Marketing] OpenOffice.org Market Share Analysis

2006-02-24 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Hi all, I created a new OpenOffice.org Market Share Analysis wiki page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Market_Share_Analysis The page tries to provide a tabular summary of the following page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Major_OpenOffice.org_Deployments Please help to

Re: [Marketing] [Fwd: OOoCon 2006 - Call for Location - Draft in Wiki]

2006-01-09 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Does anybody have comments? I think I haven't seen any, yet. Thanks, Erwin Erwin Tenhumberg wrote: FYI Please reply to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list! Thanks, Erwin Subject: OOoCon 2006 - Call for Location - Dra

Re: [Marketing] Goodbye and Good Luck

2006-01-04 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Daniel Carrera wrote: Erwin Tenhumberg wrote: Since I don't know all the details about this incident I will try to stay neutral by saying that my understanding is that any elected project lead is empowered to do whatever he or she thinks is necessary to run the project. Does that exte

[Marketing] [Fwd: OOoCon 2006 - Call for Location - Draft in Wiki]

2006-01-04 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
FYI Please reply to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list! Thanks, Erwin --- Begin Message --- Hi all, As you most likely know, a close to final draft of the call for location for OOoCon 2006 is available in our Wiki: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoCon_2006_Call_for_Location I haven't

Re: [Marketing] Goodbye and Good Luck

2006-01-04 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Since I don't know all the details about this incident I will try to stay neutral by saying that my understanding is that any elected project lead is empowered to do whatever he or she thinks is necessary to run the project. In cases of disagreement between different parties, the Community Counci

Re: [Marketing] RSSFeed for OOoNewsletter

2005-10-31 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
here you have : http://www.2rss.com/atom2rss.php?atom=http%3A//ooonewsletter.blogspot.com/atom.xml You may want to know that Deepankar Datta is the one in charge of the site, although I submit some articles from time to time also. Yes, Deepankar is the key person behind the newsletter! I'm just

[Marketing] OpenOffice.org 2.0 RC3

2005-10-12 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
OpenOffice.org 2.0 RC3 http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/stx12?entry=openoffice_org_2_0_rc3 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Marketing] This for the anniversary ...

2005-10-10 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Hi all, As you might remember, our anniversary is due very soon. Thus, here are a few more things that we need or at least should try to get done until the 12th: 1.) Create a birthday cake (logo) with five candles => art project?, fallback: Erwin 2.) Create a summary of key news of the p

[Marketing] Things for the anniversary ...

2005-10-10 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
This time with the subject I had in mind. ;-) Erwin Hi all, As you might remember, our anniversary is due very soon. Thus, here are a few more things that we need or at least should try to get done until the 12th: 1.) Create a birthday cake (logo) with five candles => art project?, fal

Re: [Marketing] Conference inspired marketing thoughts

2005-10-06 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
I think collaboration/co-marketing makes a lot of sense. I even could imagine doing some work together with KOffice, AbiWord and other projects that support OpenDocument. Yes, on a feature level OpenOffice.org is competing with KOffice, but the success of OpenDocument is critical to both projects

Re: [Marketing] theme for 2.0 promotion

2005-09-27 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Hi Jacqueline, I think going after the NFP sector is a great idea!!! I'm for example a member of the local church community and my ballroom dancing club. People who are more interested in "selling high" can even do that, provided that they are members of sailing or golf clubs. ;-) Business scho

Re: [Marketing] MassGov declares for OpenDocument

2005-09-02 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
I will see what I can do, but I personally for sure won't speak in the name of the OpenOffice.org project of Sun. ;-) Wouldn't that be missing an important PR opportunity? Not necessarily, I can still refer to the local OpenOffice.org project leads here in Germany or get Sun PR involved. Yes,

Re: [Marketing] MassGov declares for OpenDocument

2005-09-02 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
My limited experience, trying to get a PR release after Corel announced plans to support Linux, is that this is not quick. The recent beta 2 announcement was prepared within 24 hours. The were some issues coming from the release engineering side that caused an additional delay, but the announcem

Re: [Marketing] MassGov declares for OpenDocument

2005-09-02 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
But this particular case highlights a problem. News is immediate in many cases. This is perhaps the biggest thing since the Munich case and this thread started on Wednesday. The marketing list has been pretty quiet for months and recently we have had 210 posts on some fairly important issues such

Re: [Marketing] MassGov declares for OpenDocument

2005-09-02 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Yeah, so I went and did it myself. Which is perfectly fine, since you did not act as an OpenOffice.org "official", and the articles had great impact! Congratulations! Any official OpenOffice.org response however, should follow OpenOffice.org guidelines, e.g. have people review and official stat

Re: [Marketing] MassGov declares for OpenDocument

2005-09-01 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
MA doesn't need help from OOo Marketing. They need a vendors and, as I said before, IBM, Novell and others will do. Will either MA or Novell join the OpenDocument TC? Just curious!? All the best, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mai

Re: [Marketing] MassGov declares for OpenDocument

2005-09-01 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Ian Lynch wrote: On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 14:02 -0700, Adam Moore wrote: I wanna be somebody and not just anybody. Because if nobody is going to do it at least I am somebody. Sounds good to me. You probably need to E-mail Jacqueline though after what was said about speaking on behalf of the pr

Re: [Marketing] MassGov declares for OpenDocument

2005-09-01 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Sorry, I had to be busy with other stuff. Why don't you propose something to the PR list and maybe even write the first draft? All the best, Erwin Adam Moore wrote: On 9/1/05, Ian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 12:31 -0400, swhiser wrote: BTW, we were talking about P

[Marketing] Press kit for OpenOffice.org 2.0 final

2005-08-30 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Hi all, We still have some time because beta 2 just got released, but I think we should prepare a press kit for OpenOffice.org 2.0 final like we had for previous major releases. I created a new issue for this effort which includes a link to an old press kit: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/

Re: [Marketing] Update of press kit.

2005-08-30 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Funny, I also just sent an email regarding a press kit. ;-) I think we should pick the nicest logos, screenshots, flyers, etc. and either copy them to a new location or probably better just link to them from the press kit location. Here are the links to the outdated press kits: http://www.op

[Marketing] FYI: Microsoft Expands Code Sharing

2005-08-30 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
FYI "The software giant is offering over 60 government and international organizations the option to view proprietary source code for the latest version of its Office software, including Outlook, Microsoft Word, and Excel. ... Although Microsoft Office remains the most popular business software,

Re: [Marketing] Asia OpenOffice Conference?

2005-08-30 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Onn Chee, Would the event focus on users or developers? What kind of sessions would you like to have? What time frame and location do you suggest? Would it be o.k. to have the sessions in English? If not, what would be the preferred language? BTW, since your proposing an OpenOffice.org conferenc

Re: [Marketing] Questions around events

2005-08-30 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
I'd love to review them. BTW, do we have anybody here who could review German content coming from me? Erwin Daniel Carrera wrote: Erwin Tenhumberg wrote: Daniel, Do you have any new articles drafted? If yes, could these be "constructively" reviewed somewhere, e.g. on the

Re: [Marketing] Request developers' comments on OpenOffice under GPL

2005-08-30 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
So why dont they work with us? Novell has a fork, Red Hat and Ubuntu build on the Novell fork. IBM is working thier own fork under the SISSL and not contributing back. The question must be asked, "Do we have bad breath?" I think these companies can (and BTW do) speak for themselves. Most i

Re: [Marketing] Questions around events

2005-08-30 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Daniel, Do you have any new articles drafted? If yes, could these be "constructively" reviewed somewhere, e.g. on the PR list? Cheers, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: [Marketing] Request developers' comments on OpenOffice under GPL

2005-08-30 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
One more comment, many individual developers become corporate developers at some point! Erwin Erwin Tenhumberg wrote: Why then are Sun people connected with the project going around saying constantly that the priority is to increase the number of developers. Somebody does not understand the

Re: [Marketing] Request developers' comments on OpenOffice under GPL

2005-08-30 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
I said *independent* developers...tofu-eating communists who are not employed or are working for themselves. If they developed code for OpenOffice.org outside of OpenOffice.org and thus showed serious interest in developing for the project, I do care. Otherwise I'm much less interested, because

Re: [Marketing] Request developers' comments on OpenOffice under GPL

2005-08-30 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Why then are Sun people connected with the project going around saying constantly that the priority is to increase the number of developers. Somebody does not understand the problem(s)...or there is a big disconnect. There are reasons why it's hard to attract volunteers to this project, coders

Re: [Marketing] Tone & wording

2005-08-30 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Professional laid back? Aww, does that mean I have to wear a tie and one of those sporty looking coats ;) (seriously people, we're all on the same team) I just would like to avoid personal accusations. Erwin - To unsubsc

Re: [Marketing] Questions around events

2005-08-30 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
when they are very important. Fine, next time I'll just keep my ideas to myself and just let you wonder why so few people contribute to OOo. Cheers, Daniel. Erwin Tenhumberg wrote: * Articles on using OOo. We have 5 main applications, lots of advanced features, many of which set us a

[Marketing] Tone & wording

2005-08-30 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Hi all, In general it would be nice if people tried to maintain a professional laid-back communication style! Thanks, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Marketing] Request developers' comments on OpenOffice under GPL

2005-08-30 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
There is a contradiction here. You and Louis and others at Sun have always been saying, 'We need to get more developers...' I'm saying that it's possible they aren't coming for a reason, but you seem afraid to find out why. I'm not afraid, I just want to set the right expectations. Not all c

Re: [Marketing] Questions around events

2005-08-30 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
* Articles on using OOo. We have 5 main applications, lots of advanced features, many of which set us appart from the competiton. Surely we can write articles about this. I don't have issues with people explaining OpenOffice.org via articles provided that they are (somewhat) correct. It might b

Re: [Marketing] Request developers' comments on OpenOffice under GPL

2005-08-30 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Erwin- This comment is a bit scary. It's the point of getting input...from people who have been turned off by OOo's licensing setup...those who have not been participating. -Sam I just don't believe in demanding statements coming from "random" people. It's like saying if creates a foundation

Re: [Marketing] Questions around events

2005-08-30 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
I don't like the idea of only a small number of people being able to do PR. However, if could be assured that this small group could actually maintain a high press presence and respond to events quickly (eg. "an open letter from Corel on OpenDocument") I would feel more confortable. The number

Re: [Marketing] Request developers' comments on OpenOffice under GPL

2005-08-30 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
What you term "non-OOo developers" could mean any of us on the Marketing list. Some people might feel offended, but yes, I include people like you and me who do not write code and do not have to make their living from writing code. The whole GPL/foundation question is not just a philosophical i

Re: [Marketing] Questions around events

2005-08-30 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
I think this is a bit of a different issue really. On a booth, its unlikely that you will always have available an "official spokesperson" unless there are very many of them. Some shows might have press people there to talk to others don't. We didn't see any press at NEA but there were press peopl

Re: [Marketing] Questions around events

2005-08-30 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
This I completely understand and is something that I struggle with understanding for myself. That said our PR work is not very good right now. I have posted for people to join me in increasing our PR with press and have gotten little response other than to say I'm posting to the wrong list and

Re: [Marketing] Request developers' comments on OpenOffice under GPL

2005-08-30 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
I wonder how many comments will actually come from real OpenOffice.org contributors or at least people who have expressed serious believable interest in developing for OpenOffice.org. I'm personally less interested in philosophical comments from open source "advocates" who for example do not have

[Marketing] Questions around events

2005-08-30 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Hi all, Due to the recent discussions there seem to be more general questions that need to be answered independently of the actual events and the people going to those events. For example, is it better being present at an event at all, even if the presence is poor, than having no presence? Sinc

Re: [Marketing] Re: [marketing-events] Desktop linux summit

2005-08-30 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
The gross mismanagement of this project -- leaving aside its bad structure -- is too big an insult to ignore. If you think ... ( I could not find a better translation for "Wenn Du meinst ...".) Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [Marketing] Re: [marketing-events] Desktop linux summit

2005-08-30 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
redundant effort; look at Firefox pulling away. BTW, why don't you spend your time on FireFox then? Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Marketing] Re: [marketing-events] Desktop linux summit

2005-08-30 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
I fear this is what Sun/Microsoft want of OOo, to leave room for the StarOffice brand, but sadly this is a self-immolating strategy. It is Please, not the paranoid Sun/Microsoft story again! Sun could have easily pulled out all engineers if Sun had wanted to. one reason why GPL'ing and restruc

Re: [Marketing] OpenOffice.org 2.0 Standard Presentation???

2005-08-29 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Thanks a lot to all for pointing me to the existing resources! I'll try to consolidate the content from all the different presentations into one standard presentation. I also will include 2-3 slide designs/layouts. What slide designs/layouts from the existing slides do you like in particular? Wh

[Marketing] Please help to promote the OpenOffice.org Conference!

2005-08-29 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Hi all, Please help to promote the OpenOffice.org Conference! For example, if you're a blogger, you can just put a logo or banner on your website: http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/dancer?entry=please_help_to_promote_the Also invite friends, relatives, co-workers, etc.! In addition, let the oth

[Marketing] OpenOffice.org 2.0 messaging ideas

2005-08-15 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Hi all, A few weeks ago somebody mentioned the word "upgrade" as a possible messaging theme, which I personally found really interesting. In case people decide to create any t-shirts, cups or posters for OpenOffice.org 2.0, what do you think about the following statements: * "Upgrade to data fre

Re: [Marketing] Important upcoming events?

2005-08-15 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
We will definitely be there, details will follow. Will you be there, too? I'm sorry, I won't, but I will be at EuroOSCON Amsterdam and LinuxWorld Frankfurt. Cheers, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For addit

Re: [Marketing] OpenOffice.org 2.0 Standard Presentation???

2005-08-15 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
I don't know if this model works, but we thought it could be a good idea to have one ready-to-use-presentation, available in different "sizes". However, so far, no volunteers have been found. :-( That is what I had in mind too when we created the OpenOffice.org 1.1 standard presentation. Nobody

Re: [Marketing] Important upcoming events?

2005-08-15 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
there is one, where the German OpenOffice.org team will be present. I don't know if it fits into your "important" category, but here we go: ;-) * Systems, Munich, Germany October 24th-28th Great! Thanks! Yes, the Systems event is definitely one of the more important ones. Cheers, Erwin ---

[Marketing] Logos, banners, buttons, CD labels, flyers, etc. for OpenOffice.org 2.0?

2005-08-15 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Hi all, We still probably have a few weeks, but I would like to start getting the marketing items for OpenOffice.org 2.0 ready, too. Thus, Do we have all the logos, banners, buttons, CD labels, etc. that we need for OpenOffice.org 2.0? Has everything been posted to http://marketing.openoffice.or

[Marketing] Promoting OOoCon 2005

2005-08-15 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Hi all, Soon the agenda for OOoCon 2005 should be online. Once that happens we all need to help promoting OOoCon 2005 in order to attract more attendees. Thus, if you are bloggers, members of other open source teams/ mailing lists or have close connections to popular web sites (e.g. Slashot), pl

[Marketing] List of active open source and OpenOffice.org bloggers?

2005-08-15 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Hi all, I'd like to know who is currently actively blogging about open source in general and OpenOffice.org in particular. How up-to-date is the list at http://www.openoffice.org/editorial/blogs.html? Hopefully some bloggers can help to create some buzz around OpenOffice.org 2.0 around the time

[Marketing] OpenOffice.org 2.0 Standard Presentation???

2005-08-15 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Hi all, For OpenOffice.org 1.1 some community members and I created a standard presentation to be used as the basis for any kind of presentation about OpenOffice.org. AFAIK, the presentation even got translated into other languages than English. Three questions: 1.) Do you think it would be us

[Marketing] Important upcoming events?

2005-08-15 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Hi all, Since OpenOffice.org 2.0 should be ready for release in a few weeks, I'd like to get an overview about important upcoming events where we will or would like to present OpenOffice.org. Here are a few that come to my mind (from an obviously European perspective): * OpenOffice.org Confere

Re: [Marketing] article: "LinuxWorld 2005 Thursday"

2005-08-14 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Hi all, I just wanted to provide you with some background information from my point of view on this topic. A few weeks ago when someone raised the question about attending LinuxWorld SF, I checked with Sun's desktop group event marketing person if we could/would have an OpenOffice.org pod again.

Re: [Marketing] Marketing to very large companies - case studies?

2005-07-28 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Hi Mark, We (Sun + migration partners) are currently helping several OpenOffice.org and StarOffice enterprise and government users with their (macro) migrations. As was already mentioned here on the list, we are working on macro migration tools. The migration results based on the files that we a

[Marketing] FYI: tecosystems: Microsoft Office Open XML Formats: "We Already Got One"

2005-06-03 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
FYI http://www.redmonk.com/sogrady/archives/000732.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Marketing] Brian Jones: Office XML Formats : New default XML formats in the next version of Office

2005-06-01 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
FYI I guess we need to make some noise!!! Read this: http://blogs.msdn.com/brian_jones/archive/2005/06/01/424085.aspx Cheers, Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTEC

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