Re: SpringMVC articles

2011-11-28 Thread Ian Roughley
I know someone who might have just that answer… ;-) On Nov 28, 2011, at 10:24 PM, Frans Thamura wrote: > anyone read this? > > > http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=63283 > > any comment for S2's future and direction. > > > > -- > Frans Thamura (曽志胜) > Chief of Advisory >

Re: Roadmap for 2.3

2011-03-15 Thread Ian Roughley
In development mode, using XML, you can also make real-time production configuration changes without needing to restart :-) /Ian On 03/15/2011 07:27 AM, Frans Thamura wrote: > we find also using old xml is easier thatn @Action/@Result > > what happen if we wanna to change the result from velocit

Re: Struts2 jQuery Plugin - Logo

2009-07-27 Thread Ian Roughley
I haven't looked at the code for the jquery plugin yet, but I can offer some insight into the problems with the dojo integration. At the time of writing, dojo was the most mature framework out there. The problems we encountered was with JS programming model that dojo used as well as a strong inte

Re: No Press?

2009-01-20 Thread Ian Roughley
Actually, who wants to do a quick email q&a with me? I haven't been following the news group as closely as I should, and I'd like to add more to the news post than what's on the release notes they're a little dry). Musachy? Ping me off-list. dusty wrote: > Strange I haven't seen any coverage of t

Re: No Press?

2009-01-20 Thread Ian Roughley
I'll put something up on infoq later today or tomorrow. dusty wrote: > Strange I haven't seen any coverage of the 2.1.6 release. I even let the > TheServerSide.com know about it a few days ago and they still haven't run > anything. I find that kind of weak sauce, although that mag has been going

Re: Dojo plugin proposal(my last one I promise)

2008-12-21 Thread Ian Roughley
A few people have tried, but this was some time ago. I can't remember the problems right now, other than it was non-trivial. I agree with Martin that we shouldn't just dump the code expecting that someone else looks after it. Although, other than Musachy, I'm not aware of any of the committers wo

Re: Who's going to Devoxx conference, Antwerp?

2008-12-03 Thread Ian Roughley
Unfortunately not this year Rene Gielen wrote: > Probably the biggest European Java conference, Devoxx (formerly known > as Javapolis) is happening next week in Antwerp, Belgium. > > Rainer and me will be attending, and we were wondering if other Struts > fellows will be around... > > Regards, > -

Re: Concerned Strutszien: A Manifesto

2008-10-22 Thread Ian Roughley
> To be sure, there *are* some cool things in S2. What I for one don't > see, and I've heard a similar feeling expressed by many as recently as > at The Ajax Experience earlier this month, is a clear, coherent vision > of how S2 lets me develop these so-called Web 2.0 applications better > than a

Re: [VOTE] Release Struts 2 Starter Maven Archetype v2.0.11.2

2008-09-02 Thread Ian Roughley
+1 (non binding) - this has been a problem for a long time and I'm glad it's been fixed Wendy Smoak wrote: The Struts 2 Starter Maven Archetype v2.0.11.2 is available for review. Staging repository: http://people.apache.org/builds/struts/struts-archetypes/2.0.11.2/starter-m2-staging-reposito

Re: S2 as JSR for Action Framework

2008-08-23 Thread Ian Roughley
I've also been thinking along these lines, starting about a year back when there was discussions around the convention plug-in. Although it was motivated more on a clean annotation implementation - as there seemed to be a good synergy between the JSR-311 annotations and what s2 could leverage (

Re: S2 as JSR for Action Framework

2008-08-22 Thread Ian Roughley
Not that it's a particularly good metric, but I always thought the adoption rates were very slow. However, I'm always surprised how many companies are using s2 when I speak to people at conferences. Maybe no-one wants to admit it publicly :-) /Ian James Mitchell wrote: That's a hard quest

Re: [PROPOSAL] S2: Subclassing plugins

2008-07-21 Thread Ian Roughley
I'm a little surprised that you can't do this now. Is the problem because of the order of loading the plugins during bootstrapping or the way the authors write the plugins, or something else? /Ian Paul Benedict wrote: Since plugins are a collection of classes and they are available to me on

Re: environment awareness (project stage in JSF)

2008-06-27 Thread Ian Roughley
I've actually had to implement this type of feature in multiple enterprise applications. However, I would say that it's not knowing the environment, but being able to change configuration elements per environment that is important (for what I did, and in rails I think this is the most importan

Re: [VOTE] Bring Convention plugin into trunk and deprecate Zero Config

2008-05-14 Thread Ian Roughley
I've spoken to quiet a few people that are already using zero-config in production. I understand that it was always experimental, but it was also solid and now used. I'd have to agree with Don (even though my vote is now non-binding) and vote +0 if the existing zero-config features are suppor

Re: [s2] A thought - next generation OSGi-based?

2008-04-25 Thread Ian Roughley
2.x in the same VM. I'm not aware that they have gone any further than that. Ian Roughley wrote: Is this the case, or was the thinking more like: - app 1 - api 1.0 --{ / - app 2 Struts ---{

Re: [s2] A thought - next generation OSGi-based?

2008-04-25 Thread Ian Roughley
Is this the case, or was the thinking more like: - app 1 - api 1.0 --{ / - app 2 Struts ---{ \ - app 4 - api 2.0 --{ - ap

Re: [s2] Let's get out Struts 2.1.1

2008-02-21 Thread Ian Roughley
Dave Newton wrote: --- Musachy Barroso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 2:03 AM, Al Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Before a GA release of 2.1 I'd ideally like to see dojo upgraded to the latest, greatest stable version, I have totally changed my position a

Re: Mailing list archive

2008-01-16 Thread Ian Roughley
MarkMail baby http://struts.markmail.org/ -- Ian Roughley From Down & Around, Inc. Consulting * Training / Mentoring * Agile Process * Open Source web: http://www.fdar.com - email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave Newton wrote: Is there an easy way to get the entire struts-user mailing

Re: [S2] Libraries in JDK 1.4 distribution

2008-01-14 Thread Ian Roughley
Martin Cooper wrote: On Jan 14, 2008 10:05 AM, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's true that we're volunteers, and any of us can walk away whenever we like, but it's also true that when we vote +1 on a GA, each voter is saying that he or she intends to help support the release.

Re: SmartURLs port

2007-12-06 Thread Ian Roughley
Don Brown wrote: Could you commit your version as a development branch, rather than to trunk? I'm using/improving Codebehind right now in some of the new features both in core and the rest plugin. I'd also like a chance to fully review the changes before we dump the old. On 12/6/07, Brian Po

Re: [s2] extras-lib (was JUEL plugin (was Roadmap for the core taglib))

2007-11-07 Thread Ian Roughley
It's great that Tom is doing this work, and it wasn't my intent to put down the effort. I guess I was just trying to preempt given some of the OGNL threads. /Ian Tom Schneider wrote: LOL, I didn't know my efforts were going to cause such a raucous. :) Ted is correct--I started this on Satur

Re: [s2] extras-lib (was JUEL plugin (was Roadmap for the core taglib))

2007-11-06 Thread Ian Roughley
Chris Pratt wrote: On Nov 6, 2007 11:35 AM, Ian Roughley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sorry to be a little behind on the thread, but what is the message that we are providing to user across different EL implements? Is accessing internationalization text and using custom type converter

Re: [PROPOSAL] Merge Able/Code Behind/Zero-Config/SmartURLs into view-behind specification

2007-11-06 Thread Ian Roughley
If it were me, I'd finish the book using struts.xml, and go to work on a second edition as soon as SmartURLs goes to 1.0 (even if the first edition isn't done yet). Getting a couple of solid Struts 2.0 books out there is the best way to drum up marketshare for a Struts 2.1 edition. Bummer... mi

Re: [s2] extras-lib (was JUEL plugin (was Roadmap for the core taglib))

2007-11-06 Thread Ian Roughley
Ted Husted wrote: On Nov 4, 2007 10:26 PM, Chris Pratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Nov 4, 2007 2:58 PM, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As for the problem of so many combinations of plugins, I'm all for the proliferation of plugins, but do think we need to not ship with two pl

Re: Fixing theme inheritance

2007-10-23 Thread Ian Roughley
I have spend some time thinking about this problem - especially when I was working on the ajax code - but I can't come up with a good solution (or maybe its just I haven't thought about it enough). The problem is the bigger picture, and as I see it, is that you may want to re-use an entire par

Re: [s2] Goal - no experimental code in core for 2.1

2007-10-08 Thread Ian Roughley
+1 - Having to explain the exception or the configuration voodoo is always difficult. Don Brown wrote: With the latest refactorings in XWork that allow plugins to provide code that load Packages, I'd like to suggest that we make it a key design feature of Struts 2.1 that Core includes no code l

Re: [s2] Should tags be their own plugin?

2007-10-05 Thread Ian Roughley
wrote: I don't think that the change would have any impact on themes. The proposed plugin would have all the same code, it would just be in a separate JAR, that people could either use (by default), or replace, or leave out all together. -Ted. On 10/5/07, Ian Roughley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g

Re: [s2] Should tags be their own plugin?

2007-10-05 Thread Ian Roughley
> I don't think anyone has suggested getting rid of Themes or > Freemarker, just making them optional for the folks that don't > need/want them. Right now, there's no way to use struts without > Freemarker, without writing your own tag library. Well - actually no. You can re-write all the theme

Re: [s2] Should tags be their own plugin?

2007-10-05 Thread Ian Roughley
What is the impact on themes going to be? Or is the consensus that themes aren't really used, and individualizing the themes into tags, with writing more HTML code by hand is the solution? Don't get me wrong - I have a love-hate relationship with theme's. I think they are nice for some thing

Re: 2.1.0 Build/Release Plan

2007-09-28 Thread Ian Roughley
I think he might be on vacation. Musachy Barroso wrote: Any idea when that might be? I haven't seen Rainer on #struts for a couple of weeks :) musachy On 9/28/07, Antonio Petrelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 2007/9/28, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I'd like to propose 7 Oct 2007 as

Re: ApacheCon Roll Call

2007-09-24 Thread Ian Roughley
I was hoping to, but it looks like I will miss it. /Ian Ted Husted wrote: I was just wondering who was planning on attending ApacheCon this year. I know Don has a talk on the 15th, and Mark and I have tutorials scheduled earlier in the week. Is anyone else going to drop by this year? How abo

Re: [OT] Re: Should I announce SmartURLs or wait?

2007-09-21 Thread Ian Roughley
Don Brown wrote: The generally accepted terminology for release numbering is MAJOR.MINOR.PATCH. Yes, Struts does things strangely, but that doesn't change how users expect things to work. Throwing in big features, and yes, I consider new annotations big features as they worm their way into use

Re: Help with the @Inject Annotation

2007-09-18 Thread Ian Roughley
I'm not sure that tag libraries are created by the object factory, if this is the case, then the behaviour you are observing is correct (as the annotations aren't checked and thus values not injected). You should be able to track back the object creation in the code to confirm this. /Ian Ch

Re: [s2] The death of the .action extension

2007-09-10 Thread Ian Roughley
://code.google.com/p/smarturls-s2/wiki/CustomizationViaAnnotations On 9/10/07, Ian Roughley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The one issue that I haven't found a good solution for (and my apologies if it exists in the smartURLs package - it's on my list of things to look at) is when

Re: [s2] The death of the .action extension

2007-09-10 Thread Ian Roughley
The one issue that I haven't found a good solution for (and my apologies if it exists in the smartURLs package - it's on my list of things to look at) is when an action class needs to be mapped to multiple URL actions potentially different packages. This is one time that I find myself falling

Re: Hold 2.0.10

2007-09-06 Thread Ian Roughley
Sounds good to me. Ted Husted wrote: So, if everyone is good to go on Struts 2.0.10, I could roll it Sunday night (9 Sep). -Ted. http://husted.com/ted/blog/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands,

Re: Hold 2.0.10

2007-08-24 Thread Ian Roughley
ng it the week after next if still open. /Ian Ted Husted wrote: On 8/23/07, Ian Roughley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If this is the case, then I'll submit this issue and I think we should include it in the 2.0.10 release. Sure. Put the issue in as a showstopper, and th

Hold 2.0.10

2007-08-23 Thread Ian Roughley
Guys - In the thread "Re: Dojo 0.9 final. Time to migrate in S2?" I noticed that Musachy mentioned that the s2.1.x tags were dojo 0.4.2. Is this the case for the 2.0.x branch as well? If it is, I was doing some research, and came across the following:* "Dojo* 0.4.3 is now available to downl

Re: [S2] [2.1.x] Bundled Plugins

2007-08-21 Thread Ian Roughley
Ted Husted wrote: I'm not sure that anyone is maintaining them now. I'm not sure that they all work. My thinking is that if they are kept at another location where there is a lower bar to entry, then perhaps we can attract someone to maintain them. Or, the other option is that no one picks

Re: Ajax Theme

2007-08-19 Thread Ian Roughley
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: +1 on moving Dojo out of the core to a plugin. -Original Message----- From: Ian Roughley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 1:34 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Ajax Theme So let me ask this - what is the percentage of co

Re: Ajax Theme

2007-08-18 Thread Ian Roughley
The ajax validation depends on DWR musachy On 8/15/07, Ian Roughley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is the ajax theme in the 2.0.x branch completely Dojo driven now? If so, there seems to be a lot of DWR code that could be removed (i.e. from the web.xml and form.

Re: Custom URL in Struts 2

2007-08-15 Thread Ian Roughley
s the advantage of using Restful2ActionMapper/CompositeActionMapper over something like the UrlRewriteFilter? http://tuckey.org/urlrewrite/ I like the UrlRewriteFilter because it can alter outgoing URLs to be RESTful-looking as well. Matt Ian Roughley wrote: Writing a custom ActionMapper i

Ajax Theme

2007-08-15 Thread Ian Roughley
Is the ajax theme in the 2.0.x branch completely Dojo driven now? If so, there seems to be a lot of DWR code that could be removed (i.e. from the web.xml and form.ftl). I can open a ticket if this is the case. /Ian - To unsu

Re: Custom URL in Struts 2

2007-08-15 Thread Ian Roughley
Writing a custom ActionMapper is the way to go - it maps the URL to an action configuration and back again. I would write one for the "http://mysearchsite.com/XYZ+ABC"; pattern, and then use the Restful2ActionMapper for the "http://myseachsite.com/images/1"; pattern. The CompositeActionMapper

Re: Apache Roller 4.0 (rc1): new, improved and powered by Struts 2

2007-08-14 Thread Ian Roughley
Is this the version that IBM is bundling in their products, or was it an older version? /Ian PS - Great meeting you at J1 Dave wrote: On 8/13/07, Philip Luppens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Very interesting - did you already have the chance to test the performance in the wild ? Yes.

Re: Preventing OGNL evaluations of user input (was Re: Struts 2 performance)

2007-07-16 Thread Ian Roughley
What do you define as "a user should not be allowed to execute such OGNL code!"? There are times that I want to call a static method and use the results. The problem to me (and as Don pointed out), is that there is malicious code stored in the database that was entered by users - and is a typ

Re: RIA + Struts

2007-07-16 Thread Ian Roughley
Struts2 can return XML or JSON (via a plug-in). What are the RIAs you are reviewing, and what integration options do they provide to obtain back-end data? /Ian Gerardo Corro wrote: Hi, I need to create a really fancy GUI, so I've been thinking about integrating struts with a Rich Internet A

Re: [VOTE] Release Struts Annotations 1.0.2

2007-06-11 Thread Ian Roughley
+0 for GA. I have to admit I didn't realize that annotations were a different project, but have been using them in 2.0.8 without issue. /Ian Rainer Hermanns wrote: Struts Annotations 1.0.2 has been tagged and is available for testing in the following Maven repository: http://people.apache.o

Re: [S2] [VOTE] Struts 2.0.8 Quality

2007-06-06 Thread Ian Roughley
[X] General Availability (GA) Rainer Hermanns wrote: The Struts 2.0.8 test build is now available. Release notes: * http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WW/Release+Notes+2.0.8 Distribution: * http://people.apache.org/builds/struts/2.0.8/ Maven 2 staging repository: * http://peopl

Re: [s2] Proposal for new url processing

2007-05-28 Thread Ian Roughley
Is it the UnknownHandler that is used by the code behind plugin? /Ian Don Brown wrote: In Struts 2.1 (and XWork 2.1), I'm thinking about reworking how we process urls and convert them to actions. Specifically, I want to make it possible for the Struts 2 dispatcher filter to potentially examin

Re: [S2] Where's Waldo?

2007-05-18 Thread Ian Roughley
Yeah... one book at the publisher (out in a couple of weeks), and the time I estimated for the second one was ridiculously low :) So now I am spending every free minute and reducing my consulting workload to meet deadlines. /Ian Philip Luppens wrote: Hmm, same here. Too busy with the new jo

Re: ApacheCon

2007-04-23 Thread Ian Roughley
I would be up for a collaboration, if there are others that are interested. /Ian Mark Menard wrote: On 4/23/07 1:03 PM, "Dave Newton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- Ian Roughley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is anyone considering submitting a speaking proposal on

ApacheCon

2007-04-23 Thread Ian Roughley
Is anyone considering submitting a speaking proposal on s2 for ApacheCon this year? /Ian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PROPOSAL: S2 ajax validation

2007-04-23 Thread Ian Roughley
Is the Ajax code all in a module now (2.1.x)? Would this change be checked into the 2.0.x branch or just the trunk under the Ajax module, and then some cleanup/removal of existing code in the trunk? /Ian Musachy Barroso wrote: I have this working, but I want to give it a little more time to

converter field in action configuration

2007-02-22 Thread Ian Roughley
Does anyone know why there is a "converter" field in the DTD for an action? I checked the XmlConfigurationProvider and it isn't using the fields data. Was this a hold-over from somewhere, or a new feature that isn't quiet there yet? Thanks, Ian --

Re: [S2] Struts 2.0 MVC Award

2007-02-22 Thread Ian Roughley
Also, in honour of Don and our friends at Atlassian, I'd like to designate a new official beer for Struts 2 -- you guessed it -- Fosters! Only an American would suggest Fosters ;-) Let's go for VB or Tooheys since he'll end up in NSW. You can bet that I'll be tipping myself a big blue can

Re: archetype

2007-02-10 Thread Ian Roughley
Wendy Smoak wrote: Is there a reason that Spring 1.2.8 is declared in the pom generated from the archetype, instead of letting the struts2-spring-plugin determine the version? I was wondering about that myself. /Ian - To uns

Re: [VOTE] Struts 2.0.5 Quality

2007-02-06 Thread Ian Roughley
+0 for GA. I have some testing code that looks good, but no production code that has been converted. /Ian Ted Husted wrote: The Struts 2.0.5 test build is now available. Release notes: * http://struts.apache.org/2.x/docs/release-notes-205.html Distribution: * http://people.apache.org/builds

Re: Proposed change to archetype

2007-01-31 Thread Ian Roughley
y are still there for reference. So, no, don't make the same changes, and, later, I'd like to change the achetype back. On 1/31/07, Ian Roughley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was going to run with this. Did you want me to make the same deletions to the blank application? After al

Re: Proposed change to archetype

2007-01-31 Thread Ian Roughley
Blank application, but for now, it seems like we should strip it down. On 1/30/07, Ian Roughley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have been looking through the s2 maven archetypes, and would like to propose that we don't include resources that are at a package level (i.e. validation and conver

Proposed change to archetype

2007-01-30 Thread Ian Roughley
I have been looking through the s2 maven archetypes, and would like to propose that we don't include resources that are at a package level (i.e. validation and conversion). The reason being that maven2 currently does not support this feature (see http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/ARCHETYPE-54),

Re: Struts2 and Java 1.4 (Re: [VOTE] Struts 2.0.4 Quality)

2007-01-30 Thread Ian Roughley
Does this infer that the only jar being voted on is the struts2-core.jar? And if so, does this make sense - especially given that all the DI options are in plugins. /Ian Ted Husted wrote: As it stands, we are marking a number of features and plugins "experimental", because they have not had

Re: [VOTE] Struts 2.0.4 Quality

2007-01-30 Thread Ian Roughley
+1 beta Ted Husted wrote: Since the Struts 2.0.4 build is essentially the 2.0.3 build with Maven fixes, I thought we might as well start the vote. If after three days anyone needs more time, or we don't have a quorum, then we can just leave the vote open for as long as it takes. Release notes

Re: [proposal] Tag reorganization

2007-01-01 Thread Ian Roughley
users are even on a mailing list, much less that they will read every post. -- James Mitchell 678.910.8017 On Dec 29, 2006, at 8:09 AM, Ian Roughley wrote: If we go the from route, then it should be a simple global find and replace. I am surprised at such a large use of the tags t

Re: [S2] Struts 2.0.2 status

2006-12-30 Thread Ian Roughley
Don Brown wrote: The change I made to xwork is a very minor, internal Guice improvement that should have no impact on its GA release. I haven't checked with Rainer lately, but I'd imagine XWork 2.0 could go final very soon. I spoke with him at Javapolis, and I believe everything was ready to

Re: [proposal] Tag reorganization

2006-12-29 Thread Ian Roughley
se the app. - Shekhar -Original Message----- From: Ian Roughley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 7:36 AM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: [proposal] Tag reorganization I'm torn - I like the fact that we are getting the ajax code out of the base, but

Re: [proposal] Tag reorganization

2006-12-28 Thread Ian Roughley
his would be a good time to make the change. /Ian David H. DeWolf wrote: That's what I'm imagining too. . .and we're agreeing that this incompatibility is a pill we have to swallow. Ian Roughley wrote: I think I am missing something here - how will the tags be invoked? It wi

Re: [proposal] Tag reorganization

2006-12-28 Thread Ian Roughley
I think I am missing something here - how will the tags be invoked? It will need to be a new tld with a new name space, right? Something like rather than - so there will be a compatibility issue, but all the functionality will be moved forward. /Ian David H. DeWolf wrote: Ted Husted

Re: [ajaxtags] Date picker

2006-12-28 Thread Ian Roughley
Sorry - vacation. Cameron (no longer active) convinced us to go the dojo route and did all of the dojo widget coding. I did the webwork integration - and tried my hand at the dojo code after he became inactive. /Ian Ted Husted wrote: Are we just talking about the Ajax date/time picker?

Re: We need to clean up the Struts 2 AJAX tags (was Re: Additional UI tags)

2006-12-19 Thread Ian Roughley
plain themes and why certain attributes only work in certain situations. On the other hand, ripping the ajax tags out would affect backwards compatibility. Are a lot of users out there using these tags? Could the migration be simple or would it involve too much effort? Don Ian Roughley wrote

Re: We need to clean up the Struts 2 AJAX tags (was Re: Additional UI tags)

2006-12-18 Thread Ian Roughley
Personally, I have only WW2 apps with the ajax theme in production and there is no intention of upgrading anytime soon. I would also be surprised if any of the other committers have projects based on the ajax theme in production. /Ian Ted Husted wrote: On 12/18/06, Ian Roughley <[EM

Re: We need to clean up the Struts 2 AJAX tags (was Re: Additional UI tags)

2006-12-18 Thread Ian Roughley
nce from WW2 to Struts2 for the ajax tags (i.e. new attributes, new dojo version, new tags). Don Ian Roughley wrote: The wrappers around the beans are there to provide accessors to new attributes needed by the ajax tags. If we were to extract the tags into a separate taglib or library, I don't

Re: Additional UI tags

2006-12-15 Thread Ian Roughley
The wrappers around the beans are there to provide accessors to new attributes needed by the ajax tags. If we were to extract the tags into a separate taglib or library, I don't think we would need the wrappers. The additionally required attributes would be contained on the new classes in the

Re: Additional UI tags

2006-12-13 Thread Ian Roughley
And not to mention that debugging for new users is not a trivial task! /Ian Don Brown wrote: The question is do we want to create one Struts tag library that does everything, or focus on tags that require close ties with our framework? While I like the idea of providing more features and ta

Re: Additional UI tags

2006-12-13 Thread Ian Roughley
This has been my concern for some time now... especially with the dojo / ajax tags. What we seem to be doing is simply wrapping the dojo tag with a s2 tag - providing ways to access the dojo specific attributes. There are then additional issues - such as the dojo code releasing more often the

Re: OGNL performance detrimental to Struts 2

2006-12-13 Thread Ian Roughley
Do you have the performance numbers that you can share? I'd really be interested in them. Also, since you've considering JSF and performance is the deciding faactor, do you have the performance information between s1, s2 and JSF? /Ian dice wrote: The custom OGNLValueStack made little dif

Re: Value Stack Question

2006-11-18 Thread Ian Roughley
tag should list the stack. Remember that the local vars (from loops & tags) as well as the model will be on the stack first - so if the variable has the same name you will need to better specify its location. /Ian Mark Menard wrote: Is there a means of examining the value stack. I have a

Re: ajax tags

2006-11-16 Thread Ian Roughley
What do you think? musachy Ian Roughley wrote: The submit works hand-in-hand with the form in the ajax theme. After all, you need a button to press to remotely submit a form... I tried mental telepathy a couple of times but it just d

Re: ajax tags

2006-11-15 Thread Ian Roughley
The submit works hand-in-hand with the form in the ajax theme. After all, you need a button to press to remotely submit a form... I tried mental telepathy a couple of times but it just didn't work ;) /Ian -- From Down & Around, Inc. Innovative IT Solutions Software Architecture * Design * D

Re: Struts 2 & AJAX only with dojo?

2006-11-06 Thread Ian Roughley
We've talked about this a lot, and I'm still not sure what the correct answer is. At the moment we have a dojo theme (not going to go into the history here - check the webwork mailing list if you're interested). Like any other product it has it's advantages and disadvantages - the same as pr

Re: ajax tags

2006-10-31 Thread Ian Roughley
dojo's ContentPane, while DivTag wraps HTMLBindDiv(from struts), and they are quite different. I think we

Re: [VOTE] Struts 2.0.1 Quality

2006-10-31 Thread Ian Roughley
0 - Won't have a chance to look at it for another few weeks. /Ian Ted Husted wrote: The Stuts 2.0.1 distribution has been available for over a week. We have a dependency on XWork 2.0.0 beta 1, and it would not be appropriate to mark the Core (and consequently any of the Plugins) "General Avai

Re: ajax tags

2006-10-19 Thread Ian Roughley
rroso wrote: I picked WW-205, (https://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/WW-205) to start playing with and I have replaced the tabbedpanel implementation with dojo's implementation, so far I have the static and dynamic tabs working. I was having so much fun that I didn't stop to ask if thi

Re: ajax tags

2006-10-19 Thread Ian Roughley
to ask if this is what you guys want, although it is suggested by Ian Roughley in the bug's comments. musachy Don Brown wrote: The help would be appreciated. Take a look at the tag documentation - http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WW/Tag+Developers+Guide - and look at the temp

Re: [s2] replacing dojo with yui

2006-10-03 Thread Ian Roughley
yes - a new theme. The only gotcha's I can think of it that new attributes may need to be added into the UI components and model objects to support options for the JS libraries. By using a "yui" theme in the ww:head element (used to do the JS script includes) you can control that only the yui

Re: Struts plugins

2006-09-29 Thread Ian Roughley
Do you see plug-in's being used for enhancing the framework features, for adding "modules" to web apps or both? I ask this because the list of possible plug-ins so far see to be framework related. The ordering that Toby suggested seems to make more sense from a web-app perspective (as feature

Re: [VOTE] Retain the "!" idiom but disable it by default

2006-08-25 Thread Ian Roughley
-1 - don't depreciate, leave enabled Given that there is still a lot to discuss I think we should leave it enabled. /Ian Ted Husted wrote: On 8/25/06, Jason Carreira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And I'm all for those (or similar ideas). I think everyone is for those, or at least one or the o

Re: [s2] Action ! Method syntax (was Freemarker transform name)

2006-08-25 Thread Ian Roughley
I've also used the ! notation extensively, and am disappointed that it is being removed. I find that the 1-1 mapping from the URL to the method on an action is simple to follow and easy to understand. One thing that I have not seen any mention of yet is conflicting mappings - what happens? Wh

Re: [s2] Validation

2006-08-03 Thread Ian Roughley
Ted Husted wrote: On 8/3/06, Ian Roughley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is actually a feature that I like in WW/SAF, granted som times is makes more sense to use it than others, but that is always going to be a design decision. Can you further explain why you have come to the conc

Re: [s2] Validation

2006-08-03 Thread Ian Roughley
Ted Husted wrote: On 8/2/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Patrick and I talked about doing that, however, we came up against several roadblocks: 1. How would you handle nested packages? For example: /foo/bar/joe? Do we need to handle nested packages? In webwork I make use of ne

Re: ApacheCon 2006

2006-07-28 Thread Ian Roughley
I wanted to, but unfortunately had other commits during that period. Good luck and let me know how it goes. /Ian Ted Husted wrote: ApacheCon US has accepted my offer to present a half-day tutorial on Migrating to Struts 2. Is anyone else presenting about Struts this year? -Ted. --

Re: [s2] possible component tags

2006-07-13 Thread Ian Roughley
I'm kinda short on time at the moment myself. /Ian Jason Carreira wrote: :-) I wasn't the one volunteering... Putting the tree tag in took a lot of time, and I didn't even document it ;-) I'd say these can wait. - Posted v

Re: OGNL - Getter and setter types must match

2006-06-27 Thread Ian Roughley
I'd be up for lifting the restriction, but I also don't have access to the code. /Ian Bob Lee wrote: Thanks for the explanation. What a silly restriction. Anybody up for removing it? I don't have access to the OGNL source. Bob On 6/27/06, Ian Roughley <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: OGNL - Getter and setter types must match

2006-06-27 Thread Ian Roughley
I've come across this also, and the way I explained it was that it had something to do with matching getters and setters to be well formed java beans. Although I never took the time to look into it further. /Ian Bob Lee wrote: I've run into this problem with OGNL where I want it to invoke a

Re: [Friday] GWT/Struts - does it make sense?

2006-06-27 Thread Ian Roughley
the business logic directly. This avoids adding abstraction layers to the design/architecture that don't contribute anything useful in the way of functionality. /Ian Martin Cooper wrote: On 6/23/06, Ian Roughley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have been thinking about this a lot

Re: [Friday] GWT/Struts - does it make sense?

2006-06-23 Thread Ian Roughley
I have been thinking about this a lot lately, and I would say that GWT is more likely to replace web frameworks than work with them. /Ian -- From Down & Around, Inc. Innovative IT Solutions Software Architecture * Design * Development ~ web: w

Re: Does Struts really need two frameworks? (long)

2006-06-21 Thread Ian Roughley
If the goal is to separate the life cycles or to share code, then I am all for it. But I don't think the end users perception is going to be any different by this proposed change. The question is still going to be "are we going to use a JSF or action framework?" Struts is not advocating a p

Re: SAF2 Automatic AJAX Support

2006-06-19 Thread Ian Roughley
Thanks for all the work Frank! I am definitely going to take a look next week. /Ian Frank W. Zammetti wrote: As per the previous discussions, JIRA ticket is created: http://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/WW-1330 This is an addition to SAF2 that will allow incoming XML or JSON messages to

Re: [action2] Upgrade Dojo toolkit

2006-06-19 Thread Ian Roughley
ain and improve them. About using dwr as the officianl ajax tool / util, i am not sure how components could be build around it. Would it be too much efford to build components around dwr or are we looking on something else. (I have almost no knowledge about dwr :-P so i might be totally off ) re

Re: [action2] Upgrade Dojo toolkit

2006-06-19 Thread Ian Roughley
] phone:617.821.5430 ~ Martin Cooper wrote: On 6/18/06, Ian Roughley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At JavaOne it was decided to go with DWR in favour of dojo. Given this I would assume that we would not upgrade the version. I don't belie

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