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- Original Message -
From: Smith, Jeffery S (Scott) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Thor Anthrax' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 11:19 PM
Subject: RE: [e-smith-devinfo] ANNOUNCE: e-smith-samba-recycle
That works
From: Michiel Blotwijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 7:10 AM
Subject: RE: [e-smith-devinfo] ANNOUNCE: e-smith-samba-recycle
[snip]
The only thing I would like see add to it is a cronjob that
removes all files older than for example 7 days. Otherwise
you'll
: Smith, Jeffery S (Scott) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Michiel Blotwijk' [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 3:33 PM
Subject: RE: [e-smith-devinfo] ANNOUNCE: e-smith-samba-recycle
From: Michiel Blotwijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 7
A simple mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] would have been sufficient,
rather than a mail to over 700 recipients of the list.
I didn't realize not being able to find the SRPMS was a bug :-)
Sorry to abuse the list, but I have to agree with Hsing-Foo's comments. The
rift between Darrell and Mitel is
I've been following this thread. What I'm hearing is this:
-- The devinfo community would like to have more involvement and control
over the contribs process.
-- Part of accomplishing this is to have a community accessible and
community managed contrib server (for storage of rpms, howtos, etc.)
Gordon
With all due respect, in this instance I have to disagree with Mitel's
position. This was not simply a bug report of the form I tried this,
expecting that, and got the other as most bug reports are. This was an
obviously competent person who observed the bug, did the troubleshooting and
-Original Message-
From: Charlie Brady
Sent: 12/24/2002 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] mod_perl
Scott, sorry that your patch hasn't made it into 5.6 - arrived
too late in the piece to be seriously considered.
Charlie, no worries. I really didn't expect it to make 5.6.
I had previously sent the mods necessary to enable mod_perl in an i-bay to
Mitel. Apparently it did not make it into 5.6. I will try to pull the bits
together and post here after the holidays.
-Original Message-
From: Greg J. Zartman
To: Devinfo
Sent: 12/24/2002 1:29 PM
Subject:
-Original Message-
From: Charlie Brady [mailto:charlieb;e-smith.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 11:36 AM
Subject: RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Custom templates
How is this better than patching the original package.
[There is an additional benefit in updating the original
package via
-Original Message-
From: Charlie Brady [mailto:charlieb;e-smith.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 11:01 AM
Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] Custom templates/flexbackup and rewind (was Re:
flexbackup contribs available)
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Darrell May wrote:
Darrell May [EMAIL
Also, what happens if you want to remove the third-
party package?
You remove it.
Does that restore the original/prior version of the package?
Scott
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For discussion:
Shouldn't the proftpd.conf file contain the following directives?
IgnoreHidden on
HideUser root
HideGroup root
HideUser admin
HideGroup admin
Assigned, of course, within the appropriate Limit blocks.
Without these, it is possible to delete or overwrite the
Charlie Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
For releases, see http://www.e-smith.org/bugs.php3 for a list
of known bugs with workarounds.
For alpha/beta releases, please report *all* bugs found to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Okay, I have to toss in my 0.02 monetary units here (which is not much if
you
-Original Message-
From: Brandon Friedman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Fetchmail parse error on 5.5
all-numeric - I assume that means the password is made up
entire of numbers?
But ours isn't it partial
Gordon
Wouldn't this (and similar research items) be a good candidate for a survey
on the e-smith.org home page? Doesn't nuke provide for such things?
Scott
-Original Message-
From: Gordon Rowell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:54 AM
Subject: Re:
Bob,
I also did SCO Xenix and Unix servers for years. BackupEdge (formerly C-TAR)
was the backup tool of choice. I used it for years almost identically to
what you described. The nice bit -- when you need to do a full system
restore you simply boot the recovery disks, answer a few prompts about
LocalDomainPrefix has nothing to do with LocalIP or any IP for that matter.
It is related to the domain. It is used in conjuction with DomainName and
SystemName to create the FQDN of the server. This is:
$SystemName.$LocalDomainPrefix$DomainName
So, for example:
DomainName=
Check the code for /sbin/console -- it does this for the GatewayIP value.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] more about {$LocalIP}
Ok.. my perl skill really
That should be: /sbin/e-smith/console
-Original Message-
From: Smith, Jeffery S (Scott)
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:10 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [e-smith-devinfo] more about {$LocalIP}
Check the code for /sbin/console -- it does
Okay, here's a solution (of sorts) for the reinstallation disk problem. I've
test on four completely different systems (mainly, different motherboards
and floppy drives) and it works. I'll leave it to someone else to either 1)
make a contrib to implement, or 2) add to the Mitel CD.
1. Format a
Okay, I needed to test that last step. 'cp' doesn't like non-standard device
sizes, so another copy method is probably needed -- rawread, perhaps.
-Original Message-
From: Smith, Jeffery S (Scott)
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 10:55 AM
Subject: RE: [e-smith-devinfo] reinstallation
-Original Message-
From: Charlie Brady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 11:24 AM
Subject: RE: [e-smith-devinfo] reinstallation disk errors
On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Smith, Jeffery S (Scott) wrote:
Okay, I needed to test that last step. 'cp' doesn't like non
If you'd like a commercial solution, check out Backup-Edge from Microlite. I
believe they are located at www.microlite.com
Scott
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Darrell
You are correct. A fresh install fits on the floppy, but a lively production
system generates more data than the boot disk can handle. There is only
about 5K of free space on the normal boot disk and it doesn't take long to
chew that up. If the entire configuration file (or substantial
How would one go about finding these different properties?
I see you, Gordon, and Darrell using these quite often.
Check out the various db files in the /etc/e-smith directory (configuration,
accounts, etc.) You'll also learn a lot by looking through the various
templates. These will be the
Now, just one more option is needed: Mail to unknown users - drop.
Forwarding to admin creates admin headaches, as we know.
Bouncing mail is simple and seemingly polite, but it also informs the
spammer that they've at least reached a functioning mail server. All that is
required is to start
Question: How much overhead does this add to mail processing? For a few
accounts and/or virtual domains it is no big deal. But if we're talking
offices with 100 users, or schools with 100s of users, then you're looking
at quite a few rules. A server with 300 users and 5 domains would result in
Just curious -- do you really need ~16 million nodes on your network? That's
one heck of a small-medium enterprise :-) I'm not sure what DHCP requires
per table entry, but even if it were 100 bytes you'd be chewing a gig+ of
memory.
Scott
I set the server to be on 10.0.0.1/255.0.0.0
DHCP
Too bad man pages can't be so helpful :)
Too bad most man pages are written by developers -- the last people on earth
who should be writing documentation, at least for their own programs.
:-)
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-Original Message-
From: Charlie Brady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Perhaps this is why many developers do not write any
documentation for their programs :-)
But, of course!
The Programmer's Mantra: We have the source, so we don't need no stinkin'
documentation!
;-)
Scott
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Dan
The command in step 2.1 has a typo. It currently reads:
/sbin/e-smith/db configuration setprop ValidFrom IP/Subnet[,IP/Subnet]
which should in fact be:
/sbin/e-smith/db configuration setprop httpd-admin ValidFrom
IP/Subnet[,IP/Subnet]
The command is shown with the correct format in the
Perhaps another feature needed is a template editor. Rather than having to
create the path in templates-custom, copy over the template, etc, it would
be a relatively simple matter to create a perl script to automate this.
/sbin/e-smith/modify-template templatepath
This script could present a
-Original Message-
From: Darrell May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 1:29 PM
Subject: RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Re: Comments in generated config
/sbin/e-smith/modify-template templatepath
Just so I understand, templatepath would be the actual file
name
With respect to Mitel cautions as to insecurity of telnet, and assuming
you've used the web manager to otherwise enable remote access:
/sbin/e-smith/db configuration setprop telnet PermitRootLogin yes
/sbin/e-smith/signal-event remoteaccess-update
Scott
-Original Message-
From:
-Original Message-
From: John Powell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] root / shell access
Probably (make that definitely) a better approach is leave
the config alone,
The stated approach does not modify the
-Original Message-
From: John Powell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] root / shell access
I do not want to start a major debate on the topic.
Nor do I, for there is no one correct conclusion.
Bottom line, I
Question: Does the qmail license allow for differentiation between
distribution/installation and configuration?
If I install qmail as per make install and sell or distribute a system,
this is obviously not a license violation.
Now, what happens if once this system is installed at a user's site,
-Original Message-
From: Dean Staff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 10:50 AM
Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] SME 5 Floppy boot failed
Has anyone, other than me, tried to do an upgrade to SME 5 by
booting from the floppy images on the CD?
[snip]
I've
-Original Message-
From: Dan York [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 12:29 PM
Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] Blades (Was Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Samba
issues on e-smith)
The
current model is that when *anyone* clicks on Blades in the server
manager (in
Search the forums or the devinfo archives. Methods for gaining root access
have been discussed a couple of times.
Scott
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-Original Message-
From: Jaime Nebrera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 12:28 PM
Subject: RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Program on startup
You create an e-smith-3dm RPM which contains a
conf-3dm-startup script,
which is linked into the post-upgrade and
-Original Message-
From: Dan York [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Make Utils E-Smith.
But I do not know that we have anything about using make in
a specific HOWTO document.
If you want to install 'make', just
Jaime
You might want to poke around on the hotscripts.com and linux.org sites for
ideas. The script archives on both sites have utilities that do some of the
things being discussed. Nice place to search for ideas and solutions -- just
be sure to observe the licenses if you use the code :-)
-Original Message-
From: Filippo Carletti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] RE: BIND9 (was Re:
[e-smith-devinfo] DHCP Server Problem??)
I've worked a bit with perl scripts from Stephen Carville
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 3:04 PM
Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] Compaq and e-smith (Mitel)
Check out http://www.e-smith.com for the announcement. Compaq
is going to sell
hardware with 5.0 installed.
What type of clients are you running? I recently found mention in the ISC
FAQ on DHCP of a bug in the Win95 DHCP client that can cause a network to
run out of IP addresses. Check their site for details
(http://www.isc.org/products/DHCP/). Look in the FAQs for abandoned
leases. This might not be
-Original Message-
From: Darrell May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 12:45 PM
Subject: RE: [e-smith-devinfo] DHCP Server Problem??
[snip]
e-smith 4.12 uses:
Server = dhcp-2.0-12.i386.rpm
Client = dhcpcd-1.3.18pl8-6.i386.rpm
[snip]
I see the
-Original Message-
From: Jeff Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] E-smith monitor suggestions
Not sure if it's possible but it would be nice to have some
kind of alert
sent via email if problems were found.
-Original Message-
From: Gordon Rowell
Sent: 9/4/2001 9:35 PM
Subject: BIND9 (was Re: [e-smith-devinfo] DHCP Server Problem??)
FYI (and not solving your problem), if you assign static DHCP leases
through the Hostnames and Addresses panel, this is not an issue.
And that is what
-Original Message-
From: little bark BIG BYTE2 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: myphpnuke for e-smith
I'm sure the developers of E-smith would roll over and die if
they knew how I was implementing myPHPNuke on e-smith server.
Pop
Sure, let me know when you have something.
Scott
-Original Message-
From: Darrell May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 12:28 PM
To: Smith, Jeffery S (Scott); 'little bark BIG BYTE2';
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] RE: myphpnuke for e
Ever heard of the phrase 'The customer is always right' :P
An excellent philosophy on how to treat the customer, whether paying or not
since those in the not category often influence others as much or more than
those in the paying category, and you know what they say of the effect of
one bad
Garret
How's the burn-out? ;-)
I've been looking for an *nuke* and have settled on myphpnuke. Do you (or
anyone else) have any advice or how-to on installing/running with e-smith?
TIA
Scott
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Lots to digest there. Let me dig through it, then I may break out follow-ups
into new threads.
Thanks,
Scott
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To
As an employee of a company with hundreds of millions in revenue that is
building upon e-smith as a core component of its future plans, and as the
person who is the principle technical liason e-smith/Mitel, and as a person
who has a lot riding on VME Server V5 both at my day job and what is soon
A few people have said things to the effect of:
paraphraseIf VME5 doesn't use kernel 2.4.x then I'm not
going to bother with it./paraphrase
You know, I really don't get this. First, what does e-smith (aka VME5) need
that is only available in kernel 2.4.x? Second, is this a business need (ie,
-Original Message-
From: Dan Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:12 PM
Subject: RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink
announced
That's not to say that I'm entirely happy with the v5
setup--I'd like to
have the option of
-Original Message-
From: Ross Laver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:17 PM
Subject: e-smith.com (was Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with
ServiceLink announced)
(Oh, there is the
much more attractive, if less informative, home page! Was
that
-Original Message-
From: Justin Funke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:35 PM
Subject: RE: [e-smith-devinfo] e-smith.com (was Re: [e-smith-devinfo]
SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced)
- Now back to this blade thing. Please excuse my lack of
-Original Message-
From: Darrell May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:58 PM
Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 questions
In Canadian dollars the cost is increasing from $75.00/mth to
$270.00/mth
or $920.00/yr to $3,270.00/yr. (Even higher for
-Original Message-
From: Charlie Brady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] GPL issues (was: e-smith.com (was: SME
Server V5 with ServiceLin k announced))
Not so. Consult a nearby copy of COPYING. There you will find:
-Original Message-
From: Kirrily Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 questions
1) Is the client portion of ServiceLink installed with SME5 base?
No, it's installed separately after you pay for
-Original Message-
From: Darrell May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:23 PM
Subject: RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 questions
Hi Scott, I apprecaite your comments. I'm guessing you have
first hand
knowledge of SMESV5. As I am not a partner
, Jeffery S (Scott); [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 22
Aug, 2001 wrote:
I'm guessing no. I can't speak to the relative costs in
other currencies,
but in US dollars, $200/mo (or $175 on a 12 month basis --
where did you see
that, btw?) is not much money for all be the very smallest
of businesses.
Given
-Original Message-
From: Charlie Brady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] adding perl modules
[snip]
RedHat has an extensive archive of CPAN modules
packaged as RPMS,
and you can find them via the excellent Rpmfind
I'm a bit unclear as to how e-smith uses /etc/rc.d/rc.local and how it
manages the /etc/rc.d/rc7.d path (run level 7).
As best I can tell, the rc.local file is more or less standard and not
modified via templates. (For those lurking, rc.local is pretty much the last
script executed during a
-Original Message-
From: Smith, Jeffery S (Scott)
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: [e-smith-devinfo] adding perl modules
-Original Message-
From: Charlie Brady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [e
I prevent my kids from using certain Internet goodies (mainly http, https,
and AIM) by implementing packet filters. Shoot me, because I do this with
WinRoute (legacy systems sometimes just won't die ;-)
Couldn't this be applied to email -- block (deny or drop) SMTP traffic
originating from
-Original Message-
From: Dan York [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] script question
Woah, first the Mitel news and now their own acronym.
(laughing) Hey, *we* didn't come up with the acronym... someone
here on
-Original Message-
From: Dan York [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] email Rules engine and backup
I have tried it with Outlook Express, when I used POP3 to
retreive mails at
the same time, emails get deleted when POP3
I've tried to stay out of this thread, but I have to make a couple of
observations.
First, the public announcement of the condition of the relationship between
e-smith and Darrell was NOT made by e-smith. Darrell could have elected to
continue his participation in the forums, to continue
-Original Message-
From: Darrell May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 7:20 PM
To: 'John Powell'; Devinfo@Lists. E-Smith. Org
Subject: RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Confusion in How-to and contributed was
[Re : [e-smith-devinfo] Thank You e-smith]
snip
John, I
I'm also in a
Windows workgroup called agdev.
Therefore:
My system name in Unix, Samba, and Windows is the same name.
My subdomain and workgroup names are the same. (Doesn't
AppleTalk have
some
concept of zones or similar, too?)
I think that these 2 should be kept
I may be misunderstanding you, but I believe part of what you are looking
for is in the web manager in the Workgroup configuration. This lets you
change the workgroup name and the server name -- this is Samba (ie, Windows
Networking) and not tcp/ip.
I have updated my templates to change the rest
You could modify the /etc/fetchmail template to check the return code of the
fetchmail program, then pass/suppress the output accordingly. Something like
this (untested code, presented for ideas only):
TMP=/tmp/startmail.$$
/usr/bin/fetchmail ... EOF
... blah blah blah ...
EOF $TMP 21
Also, it is somewhat easier to effect the changes using:
/sbin/e-smith/signal-event console-save
reboot
rather than the long series of expand-template commands.
-Original Message-
From: Gordon Rowell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 9:04 PM
To: Michael Doerner
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] 4.1beta2 is out!!
[...]
I will have to
download the iso (or I need to learn rsync?).
-Original Message-
From: Gordon Rowell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 10:18 AM
To: Charlie Brady
Cc: E-smith Devinfo; 'Brandon Friedman'
Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Backup Software Choices
snip
And as Charlie said, we do not intend to dictate
The only time I've seen this is when I'm manually (or via some means other
than e-smith's cron task) launching either /etc/startmail or /etc/fetchmail.
If I've done this and the cron task happens to fire off before the manual
task is complete, I'll get such a message. I will also see the message
- Install time. Yes e-smith is lightning fast compared to
the competition
today but the more you add the slower it will get.
True enough, but then how much larger do we really expect an appliance-style
server such as e-smith to get? Maybe if the good people at e-smith lose
their marbles
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