[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2006-04-20 Thread timmorris
Bennett, Gavin (LDN Int) Wrote: Windows has some major bad points but if done carefuly can very succesful. My next project is too add Exchange Server, Outlook Web Access and a HTTPS web site to the slimp3 server - it has plenty of capacity to run these as well. I've got an Athlon

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2006-04-20 Thread rtitmuss
timmorris Wrote: Having said that if I try running any of the nightlies with the latest firmware all 3 stop playing at seemingly random points. Can you please try firmware 43 available in the latest nightly. This includes a fix for this problem. Richard -- rtitmuss

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2006-04-19 Thread hifisteve
I use a Belkin router (F5D7231UK4) and PCI LAN card (F5D7000UK)in a brick built Victorian house and since I changed to a non-default channel (6 rather than 11) and stopped letting XP manage my wireless network (using the Belkin software) it's been amazingly reliable. It registers 97-100% signal

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2006-04-18 Thread Mark Lanctot
ceejay Wrote: We've had lots of discussions on the maturity or otherwise of wireless networking generally: and one of the comments that is often made by people who are struggling to get their SBs working wirelessly is but my laptops / PDA / whatever have always worked first time (implication

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2006-04-18 Thread MrC
ceejay Wrote: We've had lots of discussions on the maturity or otherwise of wireless networking generally... I had sight, recently, of customer satisfaction data from a major PC manufacturer (best to remain nameless!) and in particular there was a table of reasons for dissatisfaction ...

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2006-04-16 Thread trebejo
keithleng Wrote: The truth of the matter is that the squeezebox software is, and always has been, very flakey. It is largely written by enthusiastic amateurs, and it shows. On and off I tend to agree that slimserver is still an evolving interface whose robustness is not yet where it should

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2006-04-16 Thread oreillymj
Well, I've got a cheap Belkin wireless router (F5D7230uk4) and it works fine with 2 xSB2s. I have a Belkin Access Point to boost the signal upstairs. I had an initial problem with dropouts when using 128 Bit WEP encryption which was solved when I switched to 64 bit. I also have this model

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2006-04-15 Thread ceejay
Not quite sure why this thread has re-opened, but as I have something to add to its latest twist, here goes... We've had lots of discussions on the maturity or otherwise of wireless networking generally: and one of the comments that is often made by people who are struggling to get their SBs

Re: [slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2006-04-15 Thread Peter
On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 00:06:19 -0700, ceejay [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Not quite sure why this thread has re-opened, but as I have something to add to its latest twist, here goes... We've had lots of discussions on the maturity or otherwise of wireless networking generally: and one of the

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2006-04-14 Thread MrStan
From my early days as a Radio Amateur some 44 years ago 2.4Ghz radio was highly experimental and strictly line of site. Today it is regarded as everyday but it still doesn't travel well. There are some materials that it will not penetrate well including some brick and breeze block. I have very

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2006-04-14 Thread poyntzj
I moved to the Slimdevices from a Netgear MP101 and do not even want to consider going back. Not sure what other options are out there - I stopped after getting the SB. If anyone has a problem with wireless then homeplug ethernet over mains is an option worth looking at. Not too bad these days

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2006-04-14 Thread smc2911
MrStan Wrote: As far as I can tell the Squeezebox is no more reliable or unreliable in my setup as my laptop, in fact I cannot see how it is fair to expect it to magically work, there may be some compatibitiy issues with some other devices but it appears to me that Slim Devices is bending

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2006-04-13 Thread egd
Music Machine Wrote: Also if you ordered a d-link just smash it when you get it. Don't wait to go crazy first and then smash it. Regards, Music Machine ROFLMAO, thank you so much for making me laugh out loud, couldn't have said it better. I thought I was the only one that considers

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-23 Thread neilcoburn
Well, I've got a cheap Belkin wireless router (F5D7230uk4) and it works fine with 2 xSB2s. I have a Belkin Access Point to boost the signal upstairs. I had an initial problem with dropouts when using 128 Bit WEP encryption which was solved when I switched to 64 bit. I'm completely non-techie,

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-22 Thread keithleng
okay. My last comment on the enthusiastic amateur remark. I'm sure there are some very talented people working on the SB. People who are, or could easily become, professionals if they so desired. I also feel that there will be people who are contributing/have contributed to the project who do not

Re: [slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-22 Thread Robin Bowes
keithleng wrote: okay. My last comment on the enthusiastic amateur remark. I'm sure there are some very talented people working on the SB. People who are, or could easily become, professionals if they so desired. I also feel that there will be people who are contributing/have contributed to the

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-22 Thread CavesOfTQLT
Just a quickie. MrC Wrote: (...) we love (the Belkin Pre-N) (...)I'm glad you're having no issues with your Pre-N. Out of curiosity which version/firmware is your model? Mine is 1001uk/1.01.03, and it was purchased at the same time as the SB2 on Aug10,2005. kolepard Wrote: One thing that

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-22 Thread Fifer
CavesofTQLT, this is probably too late for you to see before you leave and may not help anyway, but I had hellish problems a while back with my wireless network which I blamed for ages on my decision to by a cheap Actiontec wirless router/modem. However, the problem turned out to be IPv6 and

Re: [slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-22 Thread Jason Voegele
On Thu, September 22, 2005 6:55 am, keithleng wrote: okay. My last comment on the enthusiastic amateur remark. I'm sure there are some very talented people working on the SB. People who are, or could easily become, professionals if they so desired. I also feel that there will be people who are

Re: [slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-22 Thread Steve Baumgarten
Jason Voegele wrote: Sure, Apple has a QA department and generally produces fairly high quality software [...] Tell that to the poor souls who installed iTunes 5.0...:-/ SBB Visit our website at http://www.ubs.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only

Re: [slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-22 Thread Jason Voegele
On Thu, September 22, 2005 9:40 am, Steve Baumgarten wrote: Jason Voegele wrote: Sure, Apple has a QA department and generally produces fairly high quality software [...] Tell that to the poor souls who installed iTunes 5.0...:-/ Yeah, that's the problem with speaking generally: there

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-22 Thread CavesOfTQLT
Fifer Wrote: CavesofTQLT, this is probably too late for you to see before you leave and may not help anyway, but I had hellish problems a while back with my wireless network which I blamed for ages on my decision to by a cheap Actiontec wirless router/modem. However, the problem turned out

Re: [slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-22 Thread Chip Hart
CavesOfTQLT wrote: ...(and some of the posts in your link seem to imply that 'certain' Belkin Pre-N's are dropping wireless comms every now and then) FWIW, over on one of the NetGear lists (I remain subscribed in the vain hope that a firmware upgrade will turn my MP101

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-22 Thread snarlydwarf
I was going to post that I have a cheapo Belkin (bought on a whim at Walmart) that works great. This morning, though, it was happily routing stuff around the home lan, but for mysterious reasons lots its connection to the cable modem and needed to be rebooted. It did the same thing last week,

Re: [slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-22 Thread Jim Dibb
I used to own a .b belkin which worked fine until I upgraded to a netgear .g, which also works fine (for general use, I have a wired SB1). A nice thing about belkin products is a lifetime warranty. I sold the .b (after some time of sitting on a shelf) to a coworker who found that it was

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-22 Thread MrC
Folks, please be more specific and include model numbers in your descriptions (and maligning shots) rather than the non-existant belkin unit or linksys router. There is no model or product called the Belkin or the Linksys, as there is no product called The Sony. Some of you are talking about any

Re: [slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-22 Thread Jess Askey
I have a Belkin G (WPA) router that I got for like $9 after rebates that has worked flawlessly for me and has been substantially more reliable than my old Netgear 802.11b access point. I suppose each manufacturer's product may react differently given different amounts/types of interference. I

Re: [slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-22 Thread Robin Bowes
MrC said the following on 22/09/2005 17:56: Please, lets get away from the Ozzie Rules/Metalica Sucks mentality here. Yeah, they both suck. Rainbow rulez! :) R. -- http://robinbowes.com If a man speaks in a forest, and his wife's not there, is he still wrong?

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-22 Thread Pale Blue Ego
Anyone having problems with wireless and can't run ethernet might want to try a set of powerline network adapters. They cost about $110 a pair, use the existing electric wires in your walls, and are very reliable. Zero configuration - plug 'em in and they work. Netgear, Belkin, and others make

RE: [slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-21 Thread Dan Goodinson
Subject: Re: [slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day... On 20-Sep-05, at 5:47 PM, Music Machine wrote: Have to agree about the Belkin curse. Also if you ordered a d-link just smash it when you get it. Don't wait to go crazy first and then smash it. Belkin Pre-N was a nightmare

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-21 Thread seanadams
Dan Goodinson Wrote: After setting my network to run on channel 13, I find the dropouts have all but ceased. Also Squeezebox2 (nudge nudge) like most 802.11g access points, lets you choose (wink wink) your region at startup time, i.e. the hardware isn't tied to a particular region's

RE: [slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-21 Thread Dan Goodinson
@lists.slimdevices.com Subject: [slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day... Dan Goodinson Wrote: After setting my network to run on channel 13, I find the dropouts have all but ceased. Also Squeezebox2 (nudge nudge) like most 802.11g access points, lets you choose (wink wink) your region

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-21 Thread Fifer
Does any other country use more channels than the UK's 13, or use channels outwith the frequencies used in the UK? Just checking as, being a law-abiding and upstanding citizen, I'd hate to accidentally find myself using an illegal channel, particularly if no-one else was likely to be using it.

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-21 Thread keithleng
The truth of the matter is that the squeezebox software is, and always has been, very flakey. It is largely written by enthusiastic amateurs, and it shows. I bought my first one a couple of years ago, ran into all sorts of problems and stopped using it. I recently decided to give it another try

Re: [slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-21 Thread Allan Hise
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Fifer wrote: Does any other country use more channels than the UK's 13, or use channels outwith the frequencies used in the UK? Just checking as, being a law-abiding and upstanding citizen, I'd hate to accidentally find myself using an illegal channel, particularly if

RE: [slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-21 Thread Dan Goodinson
. I've never had any concerns about SS - I've never found it to be flaky... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of keithleng Sent: 21 September 2005 12:36 To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Subject: [slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day

Re: [slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-21 Thread Alex Twisleton-Wykeham-Fiennes
On Wednesday 21 September 2005 12:52, Dan Goodinson wrote: My server is more or less dedicated, as is basically just a fileserver. Having said that, there is one other app which is constantly running - Folding At Home. (Kind of similar to Seti At Home or whatever). As a result, my CPU is

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-21 Thread Fifer
The truth of the matter is that the squeezebox software is, and always has been, very flakey. It is largely written by enthusiastic amateurs, and it shows. That's not been my experience at all. I've been running SlimServer for about a year and a half, initially using a Squeezebox1 and now a

Re: [slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-21 Thread Robin Bowes
keithleng said the following on 21/09/2005 12:35: The truth of the matter is that the squeezebox software is, and always has been, very flakey. It is largely written by enthusiastic amateurs, and it shows. This is complete boll***s. slimserver, particularly the release versions is very

Re: [slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-21 Thread Jason Voegele
On Wed, September 21, 2005 7:35 am, keithleng said: The truth of the matter is that the squeezebox software is, and always has been, very flakey. It is largely written by enthusiastic amateurs, and it shows. Well, this is one way to make those enthusiastic amateurs a lot less enthusiastic.

Re: [slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-21 Thread Michael Herger
The truth of the matter is that the squeezebox software is, and always has been, very flakey. I don't have to add my not true vote here. Others did enough. It is largely written by enthusiastic amateurs, and it shows. Ok, I _am_ an enthusiastic amateurs (and I am happy being it) and did

Re: [slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-21 Thread Jack Coates
keithleng wrote: The truth of the matter is that the squeezebox software is, and always has been, very flakey. It is largely written by enthusiastic amateurs, and it shows. I bought my first one a couple of years ago, ran into all sorts of problems and stopped using it. I recently decided to

RE: [slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-21 Thread Bennett, Gavin (LDN Int)
Title: RE: [slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day... I think someone should speak up for the windows platform.. Until recently I ran two Slimp3 (the original!) and 1 SoftSqueeze against an old Ahtlon 800Mhz running Windows XP and 10,000 tracks. It ran for months at a time

Re: [slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-21 Thread PAUL WILLIAMSON
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/21/05 9:40 AM The truth of the matter is that the squeezebox software is, and always has been, very flakey. Been running on various machines for about 2 years. Very few problems. None in the last 18 months that prevented music from playing. If you can give it a

Re: [slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-21 Thread ron thigpen
Music Machine wrote: Have to agree about the Belkin curse. Also if you ordered a d-link just smash it when you get it. Don't wait to go crazy first and then smash it. i'm using a d-link product that has been stable and fast for many months. granted they've had their share of problems with

Re: [slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-21 Thread dean blackketter
On Sep 21, 2005, at 4:35 AM, keithleng wrote: The truth of the matter is that the squeezebox software is, and always has been, very flakey. It is largely written by enthusiastic amateurs, and it shows. No offense taken. I bought my first one a couple of years ago, ran into all sorts of

Re: [slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-21 Thread Kevin O. Lepard
On Wed, September 21, 2005 7:35 am, keithleng said: The truth of the matter is that the squeezebox software is, and always has been, very flakey. It is largely written by enthusiastic amateurs, and it shows. Well, this is one way to make those enthusiastic amateurs a lot less enthusiastic.

RE: [slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-21 Thread Dan Goodinson
: [slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day... I think someone should speak up for the windows platform.. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-21 Thread Music Machine
Ask for help or go away. Whining is a waste. Follow CavesOfTQLT example if you want to improve your situation. Slimserver works quite well for me on a lowly PIII 800mhz with W2K. Maybe because I only have ~4000 tracks so far. Wired network :) Of course there are software issues. I have

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-21 Thread MrC
Music Machine Wrote: I have worked in software development for more than 25 years ... Pearl sure gets you down the road in a hurry, but after a while you wish you had better debugging tools to use. For that reason (as a development manager) I would cringe when I saw pearl in a critical

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-21 Thread Music Machine
MrC Wrote: I cringe even more when someone with 25 years the software biz doesn't know the difference between a pearl and Perl! :-) :o Oops. Anyway I came to believe it was the garbage collection that made it so difficult to duplicate some of the bugs we had. SS obviously has some talented

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-21 Thread keithleng
Somebody took my reference to enthusiastic amateurs as an insult. It wasn't intended as that. I've asked for help here before and received it. It seems to me to be a friendly community of people who enjoy working with the SB. I disagree with the people who claim that amateurs are the cream of the

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-21 Thread MrC
keithleng Wrote: Somebody took my reference to enthusiastic amateurs as an insult. keithleng Wrote: ... very flakey. It is largely written by enthusiastic amateurs, and it shows. Your choice of assessing the software as very flakey and linking that assessment with enthusiastic amateurs

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-21 Thread Milhouse
keithleng Wrote: Somebody took my reference to enthusiastic amateurs as an insult. It wasn't intended as that. No kidding - you could have fooled me and most of this forum. keithleng Wrote: I disagree with the people who claim that amateurs are the cream of the crop and are likely to

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-21 Thread Fifer
I disagree with the people who claim that amateurs are the cream of the crop and are likely to produce better software than professionals. I think the point was well made that many of the enthusiastic amateurs working on open source projects are respected professionals giving for free in their

Re: [slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-21 Thread Jack Coates
keithleng wrote: Somebody took my reference to enthusiastic amateurs as an insult. It wasn't intended as that. I've asked for help here before and received it. It seems to me to be a friendly community of people who enjoy working with the SB. I disagree with the people who claim that amateurs

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-21 Thread CavesOfTQLT
seanadams Wrote: Kevin says he emailed you on 9/8, the same day you contacted us. Please double check your mail. I've checked and there definately is no e-mail, either in the inbox or the junk trash folders, so what Kevin said in his message will remain unknown to me. As an update I again

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-21 Thread MrC
CavesOfTQLT, I will reiterate here again that I've been using the Belkin Pre-N router since it came out, and have no trouble at all. We use it for several hours a day with SB2, and with our wireless cards (belkin, intel, linksys) and have no trouble. In fact, we love it. Remember, the airgo

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-21 Thread Kevin O. Lepard
Now it's either the wireless section in my SB2 that's faulty, or it's the Belkin router Well, the Belkin's sure are trashed thoroughly on broadbandreports.com (says a guy who bought one based on a recommendation here but hasn't installed it yet, oh well). One thing that would be cheaper

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-20 Thread seanadams
Sorry for the trouble. I help out here when I can but I am not the company's front-line tech support, nor am I frankly as knowledgeable on the entire scope of issues with which our support team has experience. If you didn't hear back from [EMAIL PROTECTED], please check your spam filter as we

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-20 Thread seanadams
Kevin says he emailed you on 9/8, the same day you contacted us. Please double check your mail. -- seanadams ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-20 Thread Music Machine
I would stick to Netgear or Linksys. -- Music Machine ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-20 Thread Milhouse
I don't know what the cause is, but as soon as you mentioned you had a Belkin I stopped reading... from personal experience (and the shared experience of others) Belkin are utter pants unless you have a 100% Belkin wireless network. There may be a problem with your SB, but chances are it's the

[slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-20 Thread Kevin O. Lepard
as soon as you mentioned you had a Belkin I stopped reading...Belkin are utter pants unless you have a 100% Belkin wireless network. Interesting. As I recall, Dean posted that he solved his coverage problems by upgrading his router to a Belkin Pre-N. I've never been to his house, but I'm

Re: [slim] Re: Okay, maybe it's time to call it a day...

2005-09-20 Thread Vince LaMonica
On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, Milhouse wrote: } Try a Linksys WRT54GS or something from Netgear - I would recommend } either brand. But avoid Belkin like the plague. I can second that. But don't just confine your avoidance of Belkin to their wifi stuff; avoid *all* Belkin products. I personally stopped