And will either app allow one to stream music to the iTouch?
There is an internet radio program called CastCatcher that is meant to
allow streaming, but the developer says that this is currently broken.
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Can we get an update on what is happening with your applications?
Luke:
Are your application iSqueeze sent to Apple?
If so have your recived any date when it would come up in App Store?
If not, when will you send it to Apple?
Pippin:
Are your application iPeng sent to Apple?
If so have your r
I expect to be ready for AppEtore submission this weekend of early next
week. Pricing will probably be $9.99
I'll post some screenshots over the weekend
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pippin;356917 Wrote:
> As for iPeng: Whenever Apple lets me :-)
> Currently trying to get my company registered on the DevProgram (so far
> I'm only registered as an individual programmer). No idea how long that
> takes.
So a version 1.0 is pretty much ready then?? I look forward to seeing
one o
andynormancx;355547 Wrote:
> Have you played with an iPhone or Touch though ? It sounds like you
> haven't.
>
> The good news is that for mainly list based apps, like the Squeezebox
> apps are going to be, you only need one hand. Your beer can stay safely
> in your other hand.
>
> The iPhone in
cakes;356766 Wrote:
> Very interesting thread indeed. But the most important question has not
> been answered yet. When will we see iPeng or iSqueeze in the appstore?
As for iPeng: Whenever Apple lets me :-)
Currently trying to get my company registered on the DevProgram (so far
I'm only registe
I'm hoping to submit iSqueeze by the weekend. Then it's in Apple hands
although I've seen reports that approval times have come right down
recently.
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Very interesting thread indeed. But the most important question has not
been answered yet. When will we see iPeng or iSqueeze in the appstore?
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autopilot;356214 Wrote:
> Yep, a few competing apps could be a really good thing.
Isn't a little competition always a nice thing ;-)
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Yep, a few competing apps could be a really good thing.
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and don't forget the Pippin's iPeng that's given us the ability to
control our Squeezeboxen from our iPod Touch and iPhones, first via web
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HectorHughMunro;355737 Wrote:
> Incidentally, I would be absolutely happy to pay a reasonable amount for
> a Slimdevices Iphone/Touch app. if that's what it takes to get it going.
Just in case you or anybody else missed it:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54479
Nearly ready.
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This thread is rather amusing to me. The iPhone applications are first
and foremost directed to iPhone users. If you are an iPhone owner like
me, there is nothing more satisfying than adding another killer
application to your iPhone. The Sonos native application is just that
-- a killer applica
Incidentally, I would be absolutely happy to pay a reasonable amount for
a Slimdevices Iphone/Touch app. if that's what it takes to get it going.
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jaffacake;355412 Wrote:
> Is that because an iPod remote would be better? Cheaper? Or just cooler?
Probably all of the above. The real basis of my argument here is that
the iPod already has mass market appeal and acceptance. They're
everywhere and everyone uses them. The Squeezebox platform i
tamanaco;355346 Wrote:
> I am not one of those folks that can handle a touchscreen with one hand
> without looking at it. Having to use two hands to use my remote forces
> me to put down my beer. That's a no, no... after a long day. I have
> played with the Phillips Pronto and with the not too po
jaffacake;355412 Wrote:
> Is that because an iPod remote would be better? Cheaper? Or just cooler?
It's faster and a whole lot more responsive. Very stable too. It
feels like there's a lot more processing power. The touch sensitivity
is better done than anything I've ever used before.
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In my experience, all of the above.
I think the conclusion that Sonos came to is that the app is unlikely
to sell more remotes, but it is likely to sell more systems. It may
also effectively drive down the cost of such systems, probably a sore
point since the dvant of the Duet. Also, the amount o
ajkidle;355371 Wrote:
> Obviously selling more iPods is not in Logitech's interest, but when I
> use a Touch to control the SBR, it'll be that much easier to rope
> friends & family into the cool world of Squeezebox
Is that because an iPod remote would be better? Cheaper? Or just
cooler?
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mherger;355276 Wrote:
> Win!
>
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=355264#post355264
I like it, but for the 'c' word. Also, i think there'd be merit in
having the information locally stored so that it's accessible without
having to be online.
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tamanaco;355346 Wrote:
> I want to hold a beer (an IPA preferably) on one hand and the remote on
> the other and without looking at the remote lower/raise the volume or
> skip to the next song.
I know it risks going off topic, but I couldn't let the IPA thing go
without commenting. Nothing bett
andynormancx;355227 Wrote:
> Well written iPhone apps start up in under a second. The iPhone
> reconnects to wifi faster than the Controller does. There is also no
> issue with the iPhone having to wake up from suspend, like the
> Controller has to when it has been idle for more than an hour.
>
tamanaco;355346 Wrote:
> I'm really taken by the devotion of iPhone users. This is a compliment.
> I guess my issue with the "iPhone" or any cell phone as a remote is
> that I get too many calls and emails. Even after hours. After I get
> home from work I put my phone on its charger and don't wan
Just responded, sorry.
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ds2021;355279 Wrote:
> I really like the way their app handles multi-player control. In the
> demo video, the segment where there was a master volume plus
> independent volume control of multiple players impressed me.
>
> I have a Controller but am very eager to see an iphone app; regardless
>
I really like the way their app handles multi-player control. In the
demo video, the segment where there was a master volume plus
independent volume control of multiple players impressed me.
I have a Controller but am very eager to see an iphone app; regardless
of what strategy they take, I'd li
> Anyone want to take a bet that after the remote war has been decided the
> next big push is going to be value added content inclusion a la allmusic
> integration on your wireless handheld remote controller internet browser
> thingy...
Win!
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=355264#p
It's a clever move by Sonos. The main thing stopping me from using
their kit was that I could get similar performance from the Duet for
much less and the Duet handset suited me better. I already have a
'Touch' so the cost of switching for me is now pretty cheap. I don't
intend to switch in the
Anyone want to take a bet that after the remote war has been decided the
next big push is going to be value added content inclusion a la allmusic
integration on your wireless handheld remote controller internet browser
thingy...
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hah, interesting thread. I'll bet the folks at Logitech are scratching
their heads over this one. It will be interesting to see whether and
how they choose to respond - take too long deciding what to do or stick
to the Controller only route and watch their market share diminish or
maintain and p
mherger;355242 Wrote:
> > A well written iPhone app is going to equal or beat the Controller in
> > most areas:
>
> Sure. But this perfect app still has to be written ;-).
>
Not for the areas he mentioned.
The Apple remote, for example, fulfills those.
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> A well written iPhone app is going to equal or beat the Controller in
> most areas:
I fully agree. But then we still have to see it happen ;-).
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tamanaco;354910 Wrote:
> The Sonos app on an iPhone/iPod Touch is not perfect either. Not only
> does it have be connected to WiFi, but you have to "start" the Sonos
> application. What if the iPhone fails to start the app? What if you
> have to reset/reboot the iPhone? This is not not to say tha
amcluesent;355213 Wrote:
> I'm beginning to think the SBR/SBC design was a mistake.
If you want IR baster buy an SBc and an SB3. I'm not a developer any
more, but it seems to me the mistake was LUA - a language that very few
people know or want to know. The whole idea was to bring a product to
m
tamanaco;354910 Wrote:
>
> I think Sonos sees the iPhone app as a compliment to their hardware
> remote. Maybe this app is there to fill the gap before they release a
> new and improved hardware remote. How many Sonos users own an iPhone?
> How many iPhone user know/knew of Sonos? I see this Son
I'm beginning to think the SBR/SBC design was a mistake.
The lack of IR on the SBR is major nuisance for those of us with IR
based remotes like Pronto which work fine with SB3/TP.
And the SBC is too expensive for what it does (yes, even with 7.3
activation of the line-out).
I'm minded that the
I don't know... but I feel that a well designed "dedicated" hardware
remote is still a better solution to control any AV system than a
device that was not designed from the ground up to be a remote. The
Controller is not perfect, but is a good first attempt to control the
SC/SB system. From the be
peterw;354797 Wrote:
> There was only one part of the demo video that looked interesting, the
> concept of proportionately related volume control for a group of
> synchronized players.
FYI - This has been a Sonos function since the day of release 4yrs ago
and is available from CR100, PC, Mac and
lanierb;354775 Wrote:
> One reason they don't do it might be that it could undercut controller
> sales. Not sure if that's it, but it's one reason for Logitech not to
> do it.
>
Yes, it's inevitably going to change the sales demographic for Sonos.
People are likely to buy less controllers an
peterw;354797 Wrote:
> From a business standpoint, this looks like a smart move for exactly one
> reason: offloading costs & risks to Apple. The Sonos controller is
> dated, big, clunky, and inferior to the Squeezebox Controller in pretty
> much every respect. Rather than do the hard work of maki
>From a business standpoint, this looks like a smart move for exactly one
reason: offloading costs & risks to Apple. The Sonos controller is
dated, big, clunky, and inferior to the Squeezebox Controller in pretty
much every respect. Rather than do the hard work of making better
hardware, they're l
One reason they don't do it might be that it could undercut controller
sales. Not sure if that's it, but it's one reason for Logitech not to
do it.
Somehow the market has to sort all this out. It seems like what we
really need is an iPhone that has universal remote capability
(preferably via
gweempose;354709 Wrote:
> I think you missed the point that David was making. Logitech has a
> unique opportunity on their hands to combine two of their existing
> products into an even more attractive offering. A Harmony remote with
> built-in Squeezebox control would be a very compelling produc
JJZolx;354678 Wrote:
>
>
> It would seem rather dumb for Logitech to develop their own application
> when developers in the community are willing to do so.I think you missed the
> point that David was making. Logitech has a
unique opportunity on their hands to combine two of their existing
pro
JJZolx;354678 Wrote:
> The iPhone/Touch platform is one of the last areas where there's any
> significant 3rd party development activity for Squeezebox. It would
> seem rather dumb for Logitech to develop their own application when
> developers in the community are willing to do so.
Logitech se
Well lot's of the major developer's seemed to end up on the Slim
payroll. Also the excitement of LUA development doesn't seen to have
attracted many plug in developers.
Agree with your sentiment - it's up to Logitech / Slim - who want's to
earn the revenue?
I would be very happy with a native
The iPhone/Touch platform is one of the last areas where there's any
significant 3rd party development activity for Squeezebox. It would
seem rather dumb for Logitech to develop their own application when
developers in the community are willing to do so.
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jaffacake;354594 Wrote:
>
>
> The second market comes from people who want a nice modern touchscreen
> controller. As well as being "cool" the touch interface also adds
> benefits in the form of an on-screen keyboard - ideal for artist/track
> searches which aren't so easy on a scroll wheel. Fo
pippin;354580 Wrote:
> Really?
> Does it have anything iPeng (skin) doesn't?
I don't know; I wasn't just thinking in terms of features, more
improvements.
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jaffacake;354594 Wrote:
> I think you guys could argue this point forever, you're all right and
> all wrong at the same time...because there are 2 completely different
> markets for this kind of product and you're arguing from both camps.
>
> The first market are those who already own an iPhone
I think you guys could argue this point forever, you're all right and
all wrong at the same time...because there are 2 completely different
markets for this kind of product and you're arguing from both camps.
The first market are those who already own an iPhone or iPod touch.
They carry it all th
pippin;354567 Wrote:
> You do realize, that there is also the iPod touch, don't you?
> From the feedback I get on iPeng I believe there are more people using
> that one than the actual iPhone as a remote control.
> And it can still play music, and let's you browse the internet in
> bed...
My arg
Luke Redpath;354571 Wrote:
> and gives me a few ideas for future iSqueeze versions.
Really?
Does it have anything iPeng (skin) doesn't?
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Guess I better hurry up and release iSqueeze...just got to iron out
those last few bugs. The Sonos app looks really nice and gives me a few
ideas for future iSqueeze versions.
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You do realize, that there is also the iPod touch, don't you?
>From the feedback I get on iPeng I believe there are more people using
that one than the actual iPhone as a remote control.
And it can still play music, and let's you browse the internet in
bed...
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EnochLight;354479 Wrote:
>
> This argument is simply ridiculous. I carry my iPhone in my pocket
> with me at all times. To be able to take it out at any time anywhere
> in the house and access SqueezeCenter and all of my Squeezeboxes would
> be far from "cute". It would be freak'n kick arse.
autopilot;354540 Wrote:
> In what way exactly? Whats so different about Sonos? Or iSqueeze etc?
No LUA.
Also, just compiling will not give you a usable UI on iPhone.
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pipp
pippin;354503 Wrote:
> because it violates Apples license agreement.
In what way exactly? Whats so different about Sonos? Or iSqueeze etc?
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autopilot;354495 Wrote:
> Why cant Squeezeplay just be compiled for the iPhone?
because it violates Apples license agreement.
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Demo video - showing it off very well
http://www.sonos.com/whattobuy/controllers/iphone/default.aspx
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I see Linn has open-sourced their PDA controller s/w, but it's targeted
at Windows Mobile 6.
So it seems both Linn and Slimdevices are in need of an open-source
controller for Touch/iPhone...
Collaboration wouldn't be too weird, there is already SkweezyDs to
serve Linn streamers from the Squeeze
Why cant Squeezeplay just be compiled for the iPhone?
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*Office :* Softsqueeze -> Logitech Active 5.1's.
*Kitchen :* Squeezebox B
pippin;354239 Wrote:
> Why does it have to be officially sanctioned?
> Maybe it's enough if it's good?
An officially sanctioned app tends to have all of the functionality or
bells and whistles. That said, if a 3rd party developer (or forum
member) can come up with a worthy offering, I'd happily
One thing: I did NOT succeed in using SSH with iPeng with a
non-jailbroken phone since you cannot have background processes.
What DOES work (although it's more complicated) though, is using a VPN,
e.g. with IPSec.
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ds2021;354335 Wrote:
> I have set up DYNDNS (one of several dynamic dns services available) and
> my router's port forwarding to allow me to do so. To do it, I would go
> to _http://user.dyndns.com:port/ipeng_. This on its own likely does not
> constitute secure. You can password protect SqueezeC
tamanaco;354323 Wrote:
> Sounds like plan... Now let me ask you... Can you access your SC server
> remotely via the Internet with your iPhone using iPeng?... If so, how?
> I want to access my SC server via my Smartphone "securely". I also
> looked for SSH clients for the iPhone and I could not lo
Quoting tamanaco ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>
> ds2021;354317 Wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I think it boils down to this. The introduction of a mistress
> > would likely push me towards an ipod touch for use as a remote however.
>
> Sounds like plan... Now let me ask you... Can you access your SC server
> re
ds2021;354317 Wrote:
>
> Yes, I think it boils down to this. The introduction of a mistress
> would likely push me towards an ipod touch for use as a remote however.
Sounds like plan... Now let me ask you... Can you access your SC server
remotely via the Internet with your iPhone using iPeng?..
tamanaco;354313 Wrote:
> Why is it odd?... I don't let anyone near my Smartphone.
Ok, I understand what you mean now. I am not as protective of my phone,
actually encouraging my wife to use it on certain occasions. She does
not have any interest in using it or my Controller as a remote
however.
ds2021;354302 Wrote:
> That is an odd assumption.
Why is it odd?... I don't let anyone near my Smartphone. I have
"personal" data stored there. Looking at my browsing history, you'll
also find out the web sites I have visited (Including financial
institution sites) I also use my Smartphone for
EnochLight;354233 Wrote:
> ,,, but taking into consideration that users of network music
> players tend to be very technically savvy lends one to believe that the
> same demographic tends to own iPods and iPhones.
>
>
> 'Gizmodo's Sonos article'
> (http://gizmodo.com/5069681/sonos-audio-sys
tamanaco;354289 Wrote:
> I have to assume that you're the only person that uses your iPhone as a
> remote.
That is an odd assumption.
tamanaco;354289 Wrote:
> I assume that you keep your phone on at all times to receive calls. This
> means that you have to connect to the WiFi and Cell networ
tamanaco;354289 Wrote:
> I'm glad you're happy with iPeng. I have to assume that you're the only
> person that uses your iPhone as a remote. As "home" remote a "personal"
> multipurpose device on the hands of others is an accident wating to
> happen. As a "personal" remote the iPhone with iPeng
ds2021;354262 Wrote:
> Have to disagree. I see iPeng as a superior interface for control of
> music and especially multiple players. I see the iPhone as superior
> hardware to the Controller, with its larger screen with multi-touch,
> better battery life, and better processing capacity. The wi-fi
tamanaco;354250 Wrote:
> I think folks at SD and independent developers tried going down a
> similar road a while ago, but found themselves with the restrictions
> inherent of multipurpose mobile devices, such as PDAs. I find this
> iPhone Controller app "cute", but not a "real" solution as a "re
pippin;354239 Wrote:
> Why does it have to be officially sanctioned?
> Maybe it's enough if it's good?
I don't think it has to be, but there are advantages.
In the case of Sonos, having an official application helps to maintain
feature equivalence between controller options. There were some 3rd
I think folks at SD and independent developers tried going down a
similar road a while ago, but found themselves with the restrictions
inherent of multipurpose mobile devices, such as PDAs. I find this
iPhone Controller app "cute", but not a "real" solution as a "remote"
for home use. With the cur
You can try Pippin's iPeng plugin to witness the potential for
differentiation. It is significant.
For me, iPeng's simultaneous multi-player control is a revolutionary
improvement. In my experience, this is necessary.
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I too have an iPhone and would love a native app for SqueezeCenter.
Question then is how does it differentiate itself from the Squeezebox
Controller!? Certainly a good way of selling more more receivers :)
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pippin;354239 Wrote:
> Why does it have to be officially sanctioned?
> Maybe it's enough if it's good?
Absolutely. I will be more than glad to pay for a good third party app.
Hint hint.
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EnochLight;354233 Wrote:
>
> That said, I'm slightly biased. I have an iPhone and would love an
> officially sanctioned iPhone/iPod Touch app for SqueezeCenter!
>
Why does it have to be officially sanctioned?
Maybe it's enough if it's good?
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Yeah the fact that this one is officially put out by Sonos and does
*EVERYTHING* that their controller does - that's just simply fantastic.
Well played Sonos - well played...
I mean for those who don't own or plan to own an iPhone or iPod Touch
then the controller will be an option, but taking in
Sike;354210 Wrote:
> http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/28/sonos-controller-for-iphone-and-software-2-7-bring-last-fm-inte/
This is actually the fourth of the available iphone/itouch apps for the
Sonos system. This one, however, was put out by Sonos themselves in what
I think is a fairly smart move
The Sonos system interfaces with more applications/services than
Slimdevices it seems
available on both platforms:
iPhone app
Pandora (US only)
Last.fm
Rhapsody
SIRIUS Internet Radio
NOT available on Slimdevices
Napster
The lack of Napster access (or access to an equivalent service for UK
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