Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Set monthly donation limit?

2017-12-27 Thread Stephen Michel
Not currently, but it's on the roadmap. In the meantime, it seems unlikely that we'll run anywhere near that, as we'd need 10,000 patrons to reach that level. If we do start seeing a massive influx of patrons, we'll prioritize that feature, but right now the crowdmatch level is sitting at $0.08,

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] TrinkGeld: Early proposal for a desktop donation app

2017-09-24 Thread Stephen Michel
On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:37 PM, Alyssa Rosenzweig wrote: Marten's pitch was to get donation links included into package managers, which is a notable innovation I see in TrinkGeld, regardless of whether it has other issues. As in $ apt donate inkscape "$50" or $ apt install ink

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] TrinkGeld: Early proposal for a desktop donation app

2017-09-24 Thread Stephen Michel
On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 5:01 PM, Stephen Michel wrote: On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:37 PM, Alyssa Rosenzweig wrote: Marten's pitch was to get donation links included into package managers, which is a notable innovation I see in TrinkGeld, regardless of whether it has other issues.

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] TrinkGeld: Early proposal for a desktop donation app

2017-09-24 Thread Stephen Michel
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 6:34 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: On 09/06/2017 07:10 AM, David Seaward wrote: Hi all, Saw this still-very-early-days proposal at https://www.joaquimrocha.com/2017/09/05/paying-for-foss-apps/ "TrinkGeld is a proposal for a GNOME project (but should be usable in most fr

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] PCI compliance

2017-07-11 Thread Stephen Michel
On July 10, 2017 4:53:25 PM EDT, fr33domlover wrote: >I'm bringing this up especially because right now Snowdrift is using >Stripe's >proprietary JS, which will surely raise eyebrows sooner or later, and >regardless of that, I suppose we need this PCI thing. Anyone has >thoughts about >it? It'l

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] New situation

2017-04-10 Thread Stephen Michel
On April 10, 2017 5:03:26 PM EDT, Mike Linksvayer wrote: >On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Aaron Wolf >wrote: >> On 12/18/2016 01:05 PM, Mike Linksvayer wrote: >>> On 12/09/2016 10:23 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: On 12/09/2016 10:00 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: > p.s. the job is with Formal.tech, a

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Fwd: Save the Date for The MIT 24-hour Challenge

2017-03-09 Thread Stephen Michel
On March 7, 2017 1:39:40 PM EST, Aaron Wolf wrote: >On 03/07/2017 10:25 AM, Tufts wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Aaron Wolf >wrote: >>> On 03/07/2017 09:06 AM, Tufts wrote: >>> >>> It will be interesting to see how this works out. -- >>> Forwarded message -- F

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Let's talk about the mechanism

2016-12-23 Thread Stephen Michel
Good catch; I just read the local time and went with that but they are indeed inconsistent. I'll be online shortly and around for most of them, I think. On December 23, 2016 7:14:50 AM EST, Jason Harrer wrote: >> >> >> Would anyone be able to meet tomorrow morning at 10am PT, noon ET, >> 13:00

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Let's talk about the mechanism

2016-12-22 Thread Stephen Michel
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 7:43 PM, William Hale wrote: On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 17:10:23 -0500 Stephen Michel wrote: This is the spiritual successor to Bryan's "Snowdrift.coop's immediate goals" (quoted below), but is a bit broader in scope, so I'm starting a new th

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Let's talk about the mechanism

2016-12-22 Thread Stephen Michel
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Stephen Michel wrote: On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: Now that the reboot of the site is operational, I think it's time to start at the top and work our way down to our next immediate goals. Well, I'll skip ahead a bit, becau

[Snowdrift-discuss] Let's talk about the mechanism

2016-12-22 Thread Stephen Michel
This is the spiritual successor to Bryan's "Snowdrift.coop's immediate goals" (quoted below), but is a bit broader in scope, so I'm starting a new thread. The questions he outlines in that thread apply to more than us. They're the most important questions that *any* project that wishes to use

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Development status

2016-10-19 Thread Stephen Michel
Hi Rosario, Thank you for caring enough to write in. I volunteered a bunch of time (mostly this past spring) doing project management and design; I'm currently slightly out of the loop (the semester is in full swing). That is to say, Aaron is much closer to the project than I am. I just want

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] How to manage fees for first real-money operations

2016-10-07 Thread Stephen Michel
On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 12:44 AM, Bryan Richter wrote: On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 06:46:10PM -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: First, the premise: As a financial system trying to get people focused on how public goods actually work and are actually funded, we don't want fees hidden and absorbed. W

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Clearer slogan?

2016-09-20 Thread Stephen Michel
On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 12:21 PM, Michael Siepmann wrote: On 09/20/2016 08:40 AM, Aaron Wolf wrote: On 09/20/2016 01:04 AM, mray wrote: On 20.09.2016 02:25, David Thomas wrote: What about dropping "fund"? "Crowdmatching for public goods" What about dropping "for"? "Crowdmatching for public

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Now Gitlab has kanban :)

2016-08-31 Thread Stephen Michel
I agree. 2017 at the earliest. I set myself a reminder to look into this on January 1st. On August 31, 2016 9:04:49 AM EDT, Bryan Richter wrote: >https://about.gitlab.com/2016/08/22/announcing-the-gitlab-issue-board > >https://git.snowdrift.coop/sd/snowdrift/board > >I don't have time to have an

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] How the limit works

2016-08-31 Thread Stephen Michel
On August 31, 2016 6:38:46 AM EDT, Bryan Richter wrote: >On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 10:03:38AM -0400, Stephen Michel wrote: >> >> On August 20, 2016 8:27:09 AM EDT, mray wrote: >> > >> >On 16.08.2016 00:03, Aaron Wolf wrote: >> >> On 08/10/2016 01:27 A

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] How the limit works

2016-08-20 Thread Stephen Michel
On August 20, 2016 8:27:09 AM EDT, mray wrote: > > >On 16.08.2016 00:03, Aaron Wolf wrote: >> On 08/10/2016 01:27 AM, mray wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 09.08.2016 22:43, Aaron Wolf wrote: On 08/09/2016 12:59 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: >> Also, I strongly support displaying it publicly that

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] How the limit works

2016-08-09 Thread Stephen Michel
On August 9, 2016 4:55:17 PM EDT, Michael Siepmann wrote: >On 08/09/2016 02:43 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: >> On 08/09/2016 12:59 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: >> Also, I strongly support displaying it publicly that way "we only charge if the fee to processor is less than 10% of the total".

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] How the limit works

2016-08-09 Thread Stephen Michel
On August 9, 2016 8:59:16 AM EDT, Bryan Richter wrote: >On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 03:55:42PM -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: >> On 08/03/2016 03:48 PM, Stephen Michel wrote: >> > On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 6:46 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: >> >> On 08/03/2016 03:29 PM, Stephen Michel

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] How the limit works

2016-08-03 Thread Stephen Michel
On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: -snip- Though I don't think it's the best, I'm satisfied with this plan for MVP. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.snowdrift.coop https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/discuss

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] How the limit works

2016-08-03 Thread Stephen Michel
Paraphrasing all my quotes because context is way too long already. mray said: Having a rollover cause unmatching is an extreme edge case If that's true, going over your limit from a rollover is an extreme edge case, too. I think this is an edge case, but not an extreme one. If my limit is

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] How the limit works

2016-08-03 Thread Stephen Michel
On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 6:46 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: On 08/03/2016 03:29 PM, Stephen Michel wrote: Clean slate because context is getting absurd and this is important regardless of rollover mechanism. What happens if someone wants to set their limit lower than the minimum credit card

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] How the limit works

2016-08-03 Thread Stephen Michel
Clean slate because context is getting absurd and this is important regardless of rollover mechanism. What happens if someone wants to set their limit lower than the minimum credit card charge? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.snowdrift.coop h

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] How the limit works

2016-08-02 Thread Stephen Michel
On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 10:03 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: On 08/02/2016 06:48 PM, Stephen Michel wrote: I think the cleanest initial way to go is "No more than $limit will be added to your outstanding balance each month." That is, carried over matches should *not* be counted towards yo

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] How the limit works

2016-08-02 Thread Stephen Michel
I have thoughts now! On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 8:21 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: On 08/02/2016 05:05 PM, mray wrote: During the last meeting we discussed details about how the limit works. I just want to voice my opinion on how the limit should work: I strongly believe we should make the limit sac

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] How the limit works

2016-08-02 Thread Stephen Michel
On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 9:08 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: On 08/02/2016 05:58 PM, James Sheldon wrote: When are transaction fees charged? When you add money or when it is assigned to a project? This is assuming a charge-in-arrears approach where we avoid holding money which has all sorts of legal

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] How the limit works

2016-08-02 Thread Stephen Michel
On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 8:05 PM, mray wrote: During the last meeting we discussed details about how the limit works. I just want to voice my opinion on how the limit should work: I strongly believe we should make the limit sacrosanct and not touch it *never ever*. A decision by the user to se

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] UX questions for password reset

2016-06-06 Thread Stephen Michel
On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Michael Siepmann wrote: On 06/04/2016 06:56 AM, Stephen Michel wrote: On June 4, 2016 5:21:31 AM EDT, mray wrote: On 04.06.2016 08:35, Karl Ove Hufthammer wrote: Bryan Richter skreiv 04. juni 2016 03:47: There are two situations where I'm not sure

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] UX questions for password reset

2016-06-04 Thread Stephen Michel
On June 4, 2016 5:21:31 AM EDT, mray wrote: > > >On 04.06.2016 08:35, Karl Ove Hufthammer wrote: >> Bryan Richter skreiv 04. juni 2016 03:47: >>> There are two situations where I'm not sure what the best action is. >> >> IMO, the best solution (in both cases) is to *not* reveal that the >use >>

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Let's take care of the blog

2016-05-19 Thread Stephen Michel
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 12:59 AM, Bryan Richter wrote: On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 09:22:46PM -0600, Michael Siepmann wrote: On 05/18/2016 05:51 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: > On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:13:34PM -0600, Peter Harpending wrote: >> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:21:23AM -0700, Bryan Richt

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Let's take care of the blog

2016-05-17 Thread Stephen Michel
On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 5:01 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:16:09AM -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: On 05/17/2016 10:21 AM, Bryan Richter wrote: > Website work is blocked on taking care of the blog, so let's do that. > We have to make some decisions, but first we need to agre

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] [Snowdrift-team] modifying donations to feed into the mechanism

2016-05-17 Thread Stephen Michel
On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Peter Harpending wrote: On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 03:48:54PM -0400, Stephen Michel wrote: To me, it seems like arrears is the clear superior option for MVP. Holding funds adds significant legal complexity for what seems like a small benefit -- and it&#

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] [Snowdrift-team] modifying donations to feed into the mechanism

2016-05-17 Thread Stephen Michel
To me, it seems like arrears is the clear superior option for MVP. Holding funds adds significant legal complexity for what seems like a small benefit -- and it's something that we could transition to later anyway. Imagine we're doing arrears, because that's the easier way. Then, because we t

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Next Meeting

2016-05-13 Thread Stephen Michel
Sorry, list; that was intended to be an individual email to mray. On May 13, 2016 8:40:17 PM EDT, Stephen Michel wrote: >Was yesterday a good Thursday or a bad Thursday? > >Very belated: I do have a pgp key, but I receive very little encrypted >mail, so my email setup is not o

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Next Meeting

2016-05-13 Thread Stephen Michel
642D CB46 D472 8806 1B9B 7F35 6FC6 59B5 2A14 5DE3 On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 11:34 AM, mray wrote: On 10.03.2016 01:20, Stephen Michel wrote: ...please email me your general availability. Hello Stephen, I'm generally available about 19:30 - 01:00 UTC+2, where Thuesday and about every

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] An opt-in we don't prefer could help Snowdrift design , ,

2016-05-02 Thread Stephen Michel
On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Michael Siepmann wrote: On 05/01/2016 10:11 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: So, I learned from in research in traditional fundraising this interesting bit: This pertains to fundraisers wanting to get people to sign up as ongoing members where they donate monthly or annu

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] An opt-in we don't prefer could help Snowdrift design , ,

2016-05-02 Thread Stephen Michel
On May 2, 2016 12:11:46 AM EDT, Aaron Wolf wrote: >Incidentally, besides hearing thoughts from others, I'm not clear in >our >new project management where is the best place to write down this idea >so that it gets discussed and can then be something our research and >design folks can consider and

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] PSA: I assume you're also on the snowdrift discuss mailing list

2016-04-16 Thread Stephen Michel
To the discuss list and anyone reading this in the archive: this is cross-posted to the other lists. On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 5:54 PM, Stephen Michel wrote: On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Peter Harpending wrote: On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 06:48:58PM -0400, Stephen Michel wrote: Attached is

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Open Source Bridge proposals due 13th

2016-04-10 Thread Stephen Michel
On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: Here's the best resource for good submissions: https://www.harihareswara.net/sumana/2016/03/29/0 I went to the author's "Inessential Weirdnesses in ~~Open Source~~ Free Software" talk at LibrePlanet this year; it was the best of the confe

[Snowdrift-discuss] Green light to shut down OP; everything is migrated. NNTR. EOM

2016-03-31 Thread Stephen Michel
Reference: NNTR = No need to reply EOM = end of message ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.snowdrift.coop https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/discuss

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] PSA: I assume you're also on the snowdrift discuss mailing list

2016-03-27 Thread Stephen Michel
On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Peter Harpending wrote: On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 06:48:58PM -0400, Stephen Michel wrote: Attached is a little diagram of how I think of the mailing list membership. I don't believe there's anything official about how they're set up, bu

[Snowdrift-discuss] This coming week's meetings

2016-03-26 Thread Stephen Michel
I'm doing a new thing this week! If you don't want to have to worry about messing up time zones, just import the attached ICS files. That doesn't mean skip the rest of this email because there's info about the meetings in here too. 1. Weekly tactical meeting, on Monday. In the meeting, we'll b

[Snowdrift-discuss] Governance netting Wednesday 3/21 @19:00 UTC

2016-03-21 Thread Stephen Michel
It will be at meet.jit.si/snowdrift As a reminder, a governance meeting is about modifying our own organizational structure. If you have an issue like "I don't know who should be doing X", this is the right place to bring it up. wolftune, chreekat, Salt, ikomi, mray, msiep, please let me know

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] The state of project management. Looking for feedback.

2016-03-21 Thread Stephen Michel
On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Aaron Wolf wrote: On 03/21/2016 08:45 AM, Stephen Michel wrote: There's still one unanswered question: OpenProject has a nice way to organize meetings and record minutes. What do we replace that with? Here's the criteria I'm working off o

[Snowdrift-discuss] Weekly Tactical Meeting Today, 3/21, 19:00-20:00UTC

2016-03-21 Thread Stephen Michel
Important note: for folks outside the US, you may not have passed daylight savings yet, so this time may be offset 1 hour. It'll be back to normal next week. We're switching away from OpenProject, so no link this week. See the long "state of project management" email for discussion about meeti

[Snowdrift-discuss] The state of project management. Looking for feedback.

2016-03-21 Thread Stephen Michel
It's the end of an era. For a long time, we used Snow wiki, the Snowdrift wiki and ticketing system that is on our live site. Snow wiki has a problem: its code base is a mess, tangled in with the rest of the Snowdrift code. When we launch our MVP, we'll be running on a new code base. That mean

[Snowdrift-discuss] Holacracy Roles (complete, for now)

2016-03-19 Thread Stephen Michel
The initial work of clarifying our roles according to Holacracy is done. From now on, we'll modify those roles through the normal governance process. The goal here was not to make major changes, only to make our written structure actually reflect our actual structure -- and then continually mod

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Holacracy Roles (complete, for now)

2016-03-19 Thread Stephen Michel
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 2:07 AM, Aaron Wolf wrote: On 03/16/2016 10:39 PM, Stephen Michel wrote: The initial work of clarifying our roles according to Holacracy is done. From now on, we'll modify those roles through the normal governance process. The goal here was not to make major ch

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Page development: current status

2016-03-15 Thread Stephen Michel
On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 12:38 AM, Aaron Wolf wrote: On 03/14/2016 11:49 AM, Mica Semrick wrote: Hi Bryan, I will be doing some work on these! Unfortunately my schedule does not permit me to attend any meetings, so these types of mails are very useful to me. I'd like to touch base with

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] 2 meetings today (Monday) at 17:00 UTC and 19:00 UTC

2016-03-14 Thread Stephen Michel
Quick reminder: the governance meeting starts in 90 minutes; the tactical meeting starts in 3.5 hours. I made a mistake when I first set up the meetings in OpenProject and they had the wrong dates! This has been corrected now. On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 1:10 AM, Stephen Michel wrote: There

[Snowdrift-discuss] 2 meetings today (Monday) at 17:00 UTC and 19:00 UTC

2016-03-13 Thread Stephen Michel
There are two meetings planned for tomorrow/today, depending on when you read this: 1. A governance meeting from 17:00-18:45 UTC, to finish ironing out our work structure. http://shovel.snowdrift.coop/meetings/30 2. Our first official tactical meeting, from 19:00-20:00 UTC (the usual time). ht

[Snowdrift-discuss] Next Meeting

2016-03-09 Thread Stephen Michel
We made a lot of good progress clarifying roles on Monday. We still have a bit more work to do, so I'm going to schedule a meeting. Finding a good time for everyone is hard. It would be easier if we had a listing of everyone's availability so we could just pick a time that works in general (or

[Snowdrift-discuss] Hanging out in jit.si

2016-03-07 Thread Stephen Michel
Holacracy has Governance meetings and Tactical meetings, but they also assume that all of an organization's partners (employees / volunteers) are physically in the same space, talking to one another as needed to get input. I think we need an equivalent. I'm going to call them "discussions" -- i

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Governance Mtg March 7 @ 19:00UTC

2016-03-06 Thread Stephen Michel
On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 9:30 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: On 03/06/2016 06:25 PM, Stephen Michel wrote: That's today/tomorrow, depending on when you read this. We will: - Implement the core of Holacracy - Discuss which parts of Holacracy we shouldn't implement and any additional polic

[Snowdrift-discuss] Governance Mtg March 7 @ 19:00UTC

2016-03-06 Thread Stephen Michel
That's today/tomorrow, depending on when you read this. We will: - Implement the core of Holacracy - Discuss which parts of Holacracy we shouldn't implement and any additional policies we may want. To ensure we have time, there are 3 hours blocked out. Stop by for however long you can afford

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Implementing Holacracy -- TODO's inside

2016-03-03 Thread Stephen Michel
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 6:17 PM, Charles Wyble wrote: >> Implementing it here at Snowdrift.coop has been on the to-do list for a while, It has? Where is this TODO list that this item is on? AFAIK, the todo list in Aaron's head. On the slim chance my memory from when I was first reading abo

[Snowdrift-discuss] Implementing Holacracy -- TODO's inside

2016-03-03 Thread Stephen Michel
Holacracy is an alternative organizational system to a traditional management hierarchy. Implementing it here at Snowdrift.coop has been on the to-do list for a while, and now that we're finally getting organized about how we're doing things, it's happening! I'm currently taking the lead on it

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] organizing major Snowdrift.coop projects

2016-03-02 Thread Stephen Michel
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 1:14 AM, Charles Wyble wrote: In redmine I'm something of a sub project fiend. They are incredibly useful. Like anything, they can be overused/abused. -Original Message- From: Aaron Wolf [mailto:aa...@snowdrift.coop] Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 11:55 PM To: d

[Discuss] Weekly Meeting Tomorrow

2016-02-28 Thread Stephen Michel
I'm going to try a new thing here. Instead of cramming details into this email -- time, topics, thoughts -- I am only going to share the shortest-form highlights I can, and a link to the meeting's page in OpenProject where you can read more (if more exists), add topics to the agenda yourself, e

Re: [Discuss] on prioritizing next steps for Snowdrift.coop

2016-02-18 Thread Stephen Michel
On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:18 AM, char...@thefnf.org wrote: Before you dive into process for process sake and die a death of a thousand cuts by the toolchain... I'm seeing lots of massive brain dumps, grandiose plans, long lists. That's a huge amount of information. You'll die from analysis par

Re: [Discuss] OpenProject Work Packages Workflow

2016-02-12 Thread Stephen Michel
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:44 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 04:25:08PM -0500, Stephen Michel wrote: Pre-Alpha (name?): complete site except funding mechanism, where hitting the 'pledge' button signs you up for the 'announce' email list. - Prima

Re: [Discuss] OpenProject Work Packages Workflow

2016-02-11 Thread Stephen Michel
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 03:15:38PM -0800, Stephen Yeung wrote: Regarding Milestones they're generally meant for big events (i.e. launches or when you complete a suite of inter-related features) wherein you take stock and review work and

Re: [Discuss] OSI partnership, blog post (request for feedback)

2015-11-16 Thread Stephen Michel
On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: Hi all, I wrote a blog post with content that *some* will find quite interesting but is largely a nuanced, apologetic commentary addended to what is really a short and simple news announcement: https://snowdrift.coop/p/snowdrift/blog/osi-par

Re: [Discuss] [Funding Mechanism] How to accommodate lower and higher pledge levels

2015-10-21 Thread Stephen Michel
On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 11:54:49AM -0400, Stephen Michel wrote: On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 6:36 AM, mray wrote: Here is my general rationale: The idea of Snowdrift is that it has its own pace to up the game of donation

Re: [Discuss] [Funding Mechanism] How to accommodate lower and higher pledge levels

2015-10-21 Thread Stephen Michel
On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: On 10/21/2015 08:54 AM, Stephen Michel wrote: I may agree with you; I haven't quite decided yet. I'm going to continue to argue until I'm convinced one way or the other. On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 6:36 AM, mray wrote:

Re: [Discuss] [Funding Mechanism] How to accommodate lower and higher pledge levels

2015-10-21 Thread Stephen Michel
I may agree with you; I haven't quite decided yet. I'm going to continue to argue until I'm convinced one way or the other. On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 6:36 AM, mray wrote: On 20.10.2015 19:09, Stephen Michel wrote: !IMPORTANT! First: I propose we set a Design Freeze Deadline

Re: [Discuss] [Funding Mechanism] How to accommodate lower and higher pledge levels

2015-10-20 Thread Stephen Michel
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: On 10/20/2015 10:09 AM, Stephen Michel wrote: !IMPORTANT! First: I propose we set a Design Freeze Deadline of next MONDAY, OCT 26 for the mechanism. After that date, the design shall be locked in. I agree with all these items

Re: [Discuss] Sprints?

2015-10-20 Thread Stephen Michel
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 03:37:10PM -0400, Stephen Michel wrote: On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Jason Harrer wrote: If we keep changing everything and second guessing and changing everything, we're never goi

Re: [Discuss] [Funding Mechanism] How to accommodate lower and higher pledge levels

2015-10-20 Thread Stephen Michel
!IMPORTANT! First: I propose we set a Design Freeze Deadline of next MONDAY, OCT 26 for the mechanism. After that date, the design shall be locked in. --- Second: I'm going to re-pitch my proposal: I hold these to be self-evident. If you agree with me, I don't see what your objection might b

Re: [Discuss] Sprints?

2015-10-19 Thread Stephen Michel
To keep the number of emails manageable and whatnot, please move all conversation about deadlines and such to this new(!) wiki page & its discussion section: https://snowdrift.coop/p/snowdrift/w/en/beta-sprint Cheers, S ___ Discuss mailing list Discu

[Discuss] PSA: Don't worry, I will be summarizing all these emails

2015-10-19 Thread Stephen Michel
If the volume of emails today has been overwhelming, don't worry about reading it all. I am going to make a summary of the important points from each thread, some time in the next few days. Cheers, Stephen To avoid further volume, please do not reply to this message.

Re: [Discuss] Flagging comments in the forum

2015-10-19 Thread Stephen Michel
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 7:32 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: On 10/19/2015 03:47 PM, mray wrote: On 20.10.2015 00:36, Aaron Wolf wrote: On 10/19/2015 03:29 PM, mray wrote: On 19.10.2015 22:47, Bryan Richter wrote: On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:40:04AM -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: On 10/19/2

Re: [Discuss] Fwd: What makes a team member?

2015-10-19 Thread Stephen Michel
While we're going meta... One thing that stands out to me is that this whole discussion is predicated upon the assumption that these 3 classes must exist. I haven't spent enough time reading the bylaws, etc, to determine if this assumption is valid; I just wanted to make it explicit. I will

[Discuss] Sprints?

2015-10-19 Thread Stephen Michel
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Jason Harrer wrote: If we keep changing everything and second guessing and changing everything, we're never going to launch. This is a really good point. How do people feel about setting up sprints / (in)formal deadlines for feature discussion? Or just some

Re: [Discuss] Thoughts on pledge matching

2015-10-19 Thread Stephen Michel
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: On 10/19/2015 11:44 AM, Jonathan Roberts wrote: These things may have been discussed already, but these are initial thoughts from friends looking at the system; ie theoretical potential patrons. 1)It will make the average person ner

Re: [Discuss] Thoughts on pledge matching

2015-10-19 Thread Stephen Michel
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Jonathan Roberts wrote: These things may have been discussed already, but these are initial thoughts from friends looking at the system; ie theoretical potential patrons. 1)It will make the average person nervous to not see a very clear representation of w

Re: [Discuss] Flagging comments in the forum

2015-10-19 Thread Stephen Michel
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Jonathan Roberts wrote: I don't like the way flagging is currently presented in the forum. To check a box that labels another comment as "defensiveness" or "hate speech" has a lot of potential for escalating conflict...see every other discussion board ever for

Re: [Discuss] Fwd: What makes a team member?

2015-10-19 Thread Stephen Michel
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Jonathan Roberts wrote: Brian, Your first comment makes a lot of sense. I think that option is definitely off the table. Paying a member fee is an interesting thought. I guess I hadn't considered that. I have been mostly thinking that it makes sense to g

Re: [Discuss] [Funding Mechanism] How to accommodate lower and higher pledge levels

2015-10-19 Thread Stephen Michel
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Aaron Wolf wrote: On 10/19/2015 08:20 AM, Stephen Michel wrote: In short, I don't believe we actually need any change to the mechanism; we just need to lower the minimum and encourage donation at above-minimum levels. We should do this by keepi

[Discuss] [Funding Mechanism] How to accommodate lower and higher pledge levels

2015-10-19 Thread Stephen Michel
In short, I don't believe we actually need any change to the mechanism; we just need to lower the minimum and encourage donation at above-minimum levels. We should do this by keeping in mind that *the average user will tend to stick with the defaults.* Therefore, if we set the recommended ple

Re: [Discuss] Slogan proposal: "Free the Commons!"

2015-09-30 Thread Stephen Michel
What if we simply removed the punctuation entirely? Of course we'd add back in the appropriate punctuation where it's needed but for a place like directly under our name on the home page, I'm not sure it's needed. ~Stephen On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 5:56 PM, mray wrote: On 30.09.2015 20:30, B

Re: [Discuss] Proposal: Simplified Defunding Mechanism

2015-09-23 Thread Stephen Michel
On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: On 09/23/2015 03:34 PM, mray wrote: On 23.09.2015 23:43, Aaron Wolf wrote: Either you are all good or you lack funds and don't count. And if you have left-over inadequate funds, you can either adjust things to be good again, or you

Re: [Discuss] Proposal: Simplified Defunding Mechanism

2015-09-23 Thread Stephen Michel
ement. So, I'll try to do that (and a little clarification) now. On 09/22/2015 11:23 PM, Stephen Michel wrote: _This email has two things:_ 1. Statement of our goals relating to the defunding mechanism, so we have an agreed-upon base to have a discussion from. 2. Proposal for simp

[Discuss] Proposal: Simplified Defunding Mechanism

2015-09-22 Thread Stephen Michel
This email has two things: 1. Statement of our goals relating to the defunding mechanism, so we have an agreed-upon base to have a discussion from. 2. Proposal for simplified mechanism to accomplish those goals. 1. Goals of a defunding mechanism: - Encourage users to deposit more funds in the

Re: [Discuss] Agree on a Slogan

2015-09-21 Thread Stephen Michel
p 20, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Stephen Michel wrote: On September 20, 2015 4:12:03 PM EDT, David Thomas wrote: Count me amongst those who feel "Funding ..." sounds too much like we've got a big pool of money we're giving out based on our (exclusive) discretion, and I don't

Re: [Discuss] Agree on a Slogan

2015-09-20 Thread Stephen Michel
On September 20, 2015 4:12:03 PM EDT, David Thomas wrote: >Count me amongst those who feel "Funding ..." sounds too much like >we've got a big pool of money we're giving out based on our >(exclusive) discretion, and I don't think "We fund" does much to fix >it. > >"Working together to fund..."

Re: [Discuss] Agree on a Slogan

2015-09-20 Thread Stephen Michel
I'll also put forward, I ***really*** (3 stars!) like 'help fund' as the first two words of our slogan. I think we're nearing a couple of final options. Perhaps it would be a good idea to conduct some (informal) "market research"? Make a survey that lists a couple of our top choices and ask a f

Re: [Discuss] Agree on a Slogan

2015-09-18 Thread Stephen Michel
At the risk of turning this into another discussion of free vs libre vs open, I'll also throw out there that I personally try to avoid using the term "free software" when I'm advocating, because people who aren't already familiar with the movement hear those two words, come to an immediate conc

Re: [Discuss] Agree on a Slogan

2015-09-17 Thread Stephen Michel
I like it. The only alternative I can think of is "WE FUND FLO CULTURE." The downside compared to "free" is that people don't immediately know what it means. The upside is it's more nuanced, and provides a nice jumping point into explaining what we mean by FLO. I have no marketing expertise,