Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-24 Thread Dave
On 1/25/2012 1:11 AM, Kent A. Reed wrote: > It may be annoying to know LinuxCNC works best with G-code programs > tailored to it, but isn't this true also for other controllers? Yes. -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Possible Retrofit candidate for someone in the heartland

2012-01-24 Thread Dave
On 1/25/2012 12:31 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: >> since I am about 5 miles from the base a second trip would not be a >> > problem - if I forgot some paperwork > > > That is extremely convenient. :-) The last two base visits I had the GL guy met me at the gate and I followed his car b

Re: [Emc-users] [OT]Moveing pcb-gcode generated files to the milling machine=huge PIMA

2012-01-24 Thread Rafael Skodlar
On 01/24/2012 11:21 AM, gene heskett wrote: > On Tuesday, January 24, 2012 01:46:15 PM Rafael Skodlar did opine: > > [...] > > Chuckle, I need that this morning (morning? Duh, it's past 2pm), the 2nd > cup hasn't kicked in yet. :( > > I've now been searching the package repo looking for a sed-lik

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-24 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/24/2012 4:52 PM, John Prentice wrote: > On one hand I think it is unusual CNC behaviour in threading (so > possible difficulties for CAM users without a special postprocessor). John: Since I haven't had the pleasure of using serious CAM software I don't have first-hand experience with their

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Possible Retrofit candidate for someone in the heartland

2012-01-24 Thread Stuart Stevenson
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Mark Cason wrote: > On 01/23/2012 11:58 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > > If no one on this list buys this machine I will bid on it. This machine > is > > on the Air Force Base. If I can, I will pick it up for anyone that buys > it. > > I have never been on the base

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading

2012-01-24 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/24/2012 11:34 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > Kent A. Reed wrote: >> At best I'm a dilettante with machine tools and certainly I'm no expert >> with a lathe. That not withstanding, long, long ago, I was taught to cut >> a tapered thread on a manual lathe by shifting the tailstock over. It >> seems to m

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-24 Thread John Kasunich
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012, at 10:02 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 24 January 2012 21:52, John Prentice > wrote: > > > (b) For most practical tapered pipe threads no one will notice the pitch > > error. On one hand I think it is unusual CNC behaviour in threading (so > > possible difficulties for CAM use

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading

2012-01-24 Thread Jon Elson
Kent A. Reed wrote: > At best I'm a dilettante with machine tools and certainly I'm no expert > with a lathe. That not withstanding, long, long ago, I was taught to cut > a tapered thread on a manual lathe by shifting the tailstock over. It > seems to me this would necessarily mean the thread pi

Re: [Emc-users] Pico Sytems UPC and a Hardinge CHNC

2012-01-24 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote: > Just in case, my guess is that the internal resistor was sized for > current limiting 5 Volts, so the current would go up by around 120% > without an external resistor, which is okay? > The 5 V isolated source is IN the UPC (and USC) board. It cannot be bypassed the way i

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Possible Retrofit candidate for someone in the heartland

2012-01-24 Thread Mark Cason
On 01/23/2012 11:58 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > If no one on this list buys this machine I will bid on it. This machine is > on the Air Force Base. If I can, I will pick it up for anyone that buys it. > I have never been on the base before so I don't know their rules. I will > try to find out. >

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading

2012-01-24 Thread Kent A. Reed
Thanks, Andy, Kirk, John, and Steve, for the input on lathe taper attachments. It took me a minute to realize what I was looking at but then the light bulb turned on. Obviously, I never made it past the row of entry-level South Bend lathes in my own work, although I was acutely aware of the too

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread andy pugh
On 25 January 2012 00:53, gene heskett wrote: > For the help I have received, durn tootin I'll donate.  But I'd prefer you > who are footing the bills agree I was thinking about this while doing the dishes. Something I have never seen is a "donate" button that shows the current balance, and disa

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Stuart Stevenson
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 6:53 PM, gene heskett wrote: > On Tuesday, January 24, 2012 07:50:23 PM Dave did opine: > > > On 1/24/2012 2:48 PM, Chris Radek wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:31:11AM -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote: > > >> Thank goodness for the servers that host our website, wiki and

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, January 24, 2012 07:50:23 PM Dave did opine: > On 1/24/2012 2:48 PM, Chris Radek wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:31:11AM -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote: > >> Thank goodness for the servers that host our website, wiki and such. > >> It looks like PMDX gets credit for this. Thank you. >

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-24 Thread dave
On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:33:04 + andy pugh wrote: > On 24 January 2012 22:52, Kenneth Lerman > wrote: > > > 4 -- Hire someone to do #2. (Don't even ask -- I have two prices > > for my work on LinuxCNC, the first is free and you probably can't > > afford the second.) > > This is the nub of th

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading

2012-01-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 January 2012 22:54, Steve Blackmore wrote: > My CAM programs know this, and cut the threads accordingly - > unfortunately they turn out wrong. With the ability to remap G-codes which is in Master it will be possible to re-map G33 to calculate the trigonometric correction (I think that this

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 January 2012 22:52, Kenneth Lerman wrote: > 4 -- Hire someone to do #2. (Don't even ask -- I have two prices for my > work on LinuxCNC, the first is free and you probably can't afford the > second.) This is the nub of the very crux of one of the problems. None of the people who are in a po

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary homing.

2012-01-24 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, January 24, 2012 05:55:14 PM Ed Nisley did opine: > On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 00:12 -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > Its doing all moves on the .bot. files > > in negative X from the reference point > > I'm pretty sure there's a checkbox along the way that reads "Mirror X > axis" to make th

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading

2012-01-24 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:09:34 -0500, you wrote: >Not being able to imagine (I said limited brain, remember) how else they >cut tapered threads on a lathe in the old days, I expect the standard >specifications (ASME B1.20.1, fer instance) of the times would reflect this. Hi Kent Commercially ta

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-24 Thread Kenneth Lerman
On 1/24/2012 4:52 PM, John Prentice wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Kent A. Reed" > > >> Several items were called out recently as being show stoppers for >> LinuxCNC. I do not aspire to learn the inner workings of LinuxCNC well >> enough to contribute to discussion of the first item

Re: [Emc-users] [OT]pcb-gcode, bug?

2012-01-24 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, January 24, 2012 05:34:12 PM Fox Mulder did opine: > Am 23.01.2012 01:23, schrieb gene heskett: > > Greetings all; > > > > I just ran it and had it generate a bunch of stuff I copied to the > > mill, and I recall seeing a checkmark in the setup menu that asked if > > I wanted the bott

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 January 2012 21:52, John Prentice wrote: > (b) For most practical tapered pipe threads no one will notice the pitch > error. On one hand I think it is unusual CNC behaviour in threading (so > possible difficulties for CAM users without a special postprocessor). But on > the other hand the c

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-24 Thread John Prentice
- Original Message - From: "Kent A. Reed" > > Several items were called out recently as being show stoppers for > LinuxCNC. I do not aspire to learn the inner workings of LinuxCNC well > enough to contribute to discussion of the first item, "No jog on > feedhold". > > However, the sec

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Dave
On 1/24/2012 2:48 PM, Chris Radek wrote: > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:31:11AM -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote: > >> Thank goodness for the servers that host our website, wiki and such. It >> looks like PMDX gets credit for this. Thank you. >> > Nope. SWP pays for our advertisement-free hosting

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Moses McKnight
On 01/24/2012 12:36 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > John Thornton wrote: >> Why on earth would you want to close down the LinuxCNC forum and shift >> to a commercial laden for profit forum? There is nothing more annoying >> that waiting for all the commercials to load and clutter up your screen >> at the zo

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Dave
I entirely agree. There is nothing wrong with the forum as it is. The CNCZone is not open and could go to a paid subscription service in a heartbeat. Dave On 1/24/2012 9:56 AM, John Thornton wrote: > Why on earth would you want to close down the LinuxCNC forum and shift > to a commercial laden f

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Possible Retrofit candidate for someone in the heartland

2012-01-24 Thread Dave
On 1/24/2012 3:49 AM, Eric Keller wrote: > On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Stuart Stevensonwrote: > >> The motor was probably removed by the same process that modified the >> > control boxes. > > That's pretty sad to see. It really looks like the whole thing has been on > its side, and

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading

2012-01-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 January 2012 21:09, Kent A. Reed wrote: > At best I'm a dilettante with machine tools and certainly I'm no expert > with a lathe. That not withstanding, long, long ago, I was taught to cut > a tapered thread on a manual lathe by shifting the tailstock over. It > seems to me this would neces

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading

2012-01-24 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 16:09 -0500, Kent A. Reed wrote: ... snip > how else they > cut tapered threads on a lathe in the old days, My guess is by using a taper attachment: http://its.fvtc.edu/machshop2/operations/taperw_attach.htm http://www.lathes.co.uk/hardinge/img19.gif http://www.lathes.co.

Re: [Emc-users] Thank Who? was: Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 13:48 -0600, Chris Radek wrote: > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:31:11AM -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote: > > > > Thank goodness for the servers that host our website, wiki and such. It > > looks like PMDX gets credit for this. Thank you. > > Nope. SWP pays for our advertisement-free

[Emc-users] question about tapered threading

2012-01-24 Thread Kent A. Reed
Gentle persons: Several items were called out recently as being show stoppers for LinuxCNC. I do not aspire to learn the inner workings of LinuxCNC well enough to contribute to discussion of the first item, "No jog on feedhold". However, the second item "Taper thread pitches are measured along

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 11:41 -0800, steve...@newsguy.com wrote: > >Thank goodness for the servers that host our website, wiki and such. It > >looks like PMDX gets credit for this. Thank you. > >-- > >Kirk Wallace > > Duh, well once upon a time, but not any longer. > > I think that credit now goes

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread stevesng
>Thank goodness for the servers that host our website, wiki and such. It >looks like PMDX gets credit for this. Thank you. >-- >Kirk Wallace Duh, well once upon a time, but not any longer. I think that credit now goes to Stephen Willie Padnos and DreamHost. Perhaps you could point out the refer

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Chris Radek
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 01:48:08PM -0600, Chris Radek wrote: > > Nope. SWP pays for our advertisement-free hosting of the website, web > forum, and wiki. He and Alex and sometimes Jeff administer it. Replying to myself: In trying to summarize where the dollars and sweat come from that keep

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Chris Radek
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:31:11AM -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote: > > Thank goodness for the servers that host our website, wiki and such. It > looks like PMDX gets credit for this. Thank you. Nope. SWP pays for our advertisement-free hosting of the website, web forum, and wiki. He and Alex and som

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 12:42 -0600, John Thornton wrote: > That is the main reason I don't go to the zone as with my 1Mb (sometimes > that good sometimes not so good) it takes 30 minutes to load a page then > you have to navigate all the ads to find the forum... > > John Thank goodness for the s

Re: [Emc-users] [OT]Moveing pcb-gcode generated files to the milling machine=huge PIMA

2012-01-24 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, January 24, 2012 01:46:15 PM Rafael Skodlar did opine: [...] > What I have in all my Linux workstations is this: > - in konsole (my favorite GUI terminal) I open a number of tabs. First > one is always reserved for root. I label it root and to use it I > normally do sudo su - I prob

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Karl Schmidt
On 01/24/2012 12:36 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > Oh, that's a different story. The performance of CNCzone was never > great, but > tolerable. NOW, it is EXECRABLE! I have a 20 MB/s internet, and I > often have > to wait a MINUTE for the ads to load before I can see some discussion. > Their It is eas

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread John Thornton
That is the main reason I don't go to the zone as with my 1Mb (sometimes that good sometimes not so good) it takes 30 minutes to load a page then you have to navigate all the ads to find the forum... John On 1/24/2012 12:36 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > John Thornton wrote: >> Why on earth would you w

Re: [Emc-users] Pico Sytems UPC and a Hardinge CHNC

2012-01-24 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 12:26 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: > Kirk Wallace wrote: > > > > but I used the paradigm of a switch closure at the time I did the > > installation, after giving it more thought and referring to: > > http://pico-systems.com/images/univstep.png > > > > it looks as if the inputs alr

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Jon Elson
John Thornton wrote: > Why on earth would you want to close down the LinuxCNC forum and shift > to a commercial laden for profit forum? There is nothing more annoying > that waiting for all the commercials to load and clutter up your screen > at the zone. Do you work for or derive profit the zon

Re: [Emc-users] Communication Channels (Was: An Open Letter...)

2012-01-24 Thread Jon Elson
andy pugh wrote: > On 24 January 2012 13:47, Sven Wesley wrote: > > >> 3. There are too many info channels! Close down the forum on the LinuxCNC >> website ASAP! It doesn't work, Google can't make correct forward links and >> some browsers fail to show it. There is an active forum at cnczone >>

Re: [Emc-users] Pico Sytems UPC and a Hardinge CHNC

2012-01-24 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote: > > but I used the paradigm of a switch closure at the time I did the > installation, after giving it more thought and referring to: > http://pico-systems.com/images/univstep.png > > it looks as if the inputs already go to an opto-isolator on the UPC > anyway. It may be that a

[Emc-users] LinuxCNC Administration

2012-01-24 Thread Kirk Wallace
Just my view. I would think that LinuxCNC could do fine as is for the next few years. If one is energetic enough, there is plenty of documentation and support to get a CNC conversion done. There are plenty of flaws and contradictory sources, but someone with reasonable skills should be able to so

Re: [Emc-users] Communication Channels (Was: An Open Letter...)

2012-01-24 Thread Lester Caine
Eric Keller wrote: >> The LinuxCNC forum shows 14,000 posts to 8,000 for the cnczone one. >> > I (personally) find the cnczone forum rather hard to find, at the end >> > of a very long list, and I don't think that the sub-forums are broken >> > down small enough. >> > > Seems to me that the CNCz

Re: [Emc-users] Communication Channels (Was: An Open Letter...)

2012-01-24 Thread Eric Keller
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 9:10 AM, andy pugh wrote: > The LinuxCNC forum shows 14,000 posts to 8,000 for the cnczone one. > I (personally) find the cnczone forum rather hard to find, at the end > of a very long list, and I don't think that the sub-forums are broken > down small enough. > Seems to m

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary homing.

2012-01-24 Thread Ed Nisley
On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 00:12 -0500, gene heskett wrote: > Its doing all moves on the .bot. files > in negative X from the reference point I'm pretty sure there's a checkbox along the way that reads "Mirror X axis" to make that answer come out right without any further attention. The Eagle gerbv2

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/24/2012 8:47 AM, Sven Wesley wrote: > 3. There are too many info channels! Close down the forum on the LinuxCNC > website ASAP! It doesn't work, Google can't make correct forward links and > some browsers fail to show it. There is an active forum at cnczone (I'll > fix the renaming), there's a

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread John Thornton
Why on earth would you want to close down the LinuxCNC forum and shift to a commercial laden for profit forum? There is nothing more annoying that waiting for all the commercials to load and clutter up your screen at the zone. Do you work for or derive profit the zone? John On 1/24/2012 7:47 A

Re: [Emc-users] Communication Channels (Was: An Open Letter...)

2012-01-24 Thread Spiderdab
On mar, 2012-01-24 at 14:10 +, andy pugh wrote: > On 24 January 2012 13:47, Sven Wesley wrote: > > > 3. There are too many info channels! Close down the forum on the LinuxCNC > > website ASAP! It doesn't work, Google can't make correct forward links and > > some browsers fail to show it. Ther

Re: [Emc-users] Communication Channels (Was: An Open Letter...)

2012-01-24 Thread andy pugh
> On 24 January 2012 13:47, Sven Wesley wrote: > Google can't make correct forward links I just tried a search for something I knew would find the LinuxCNC website forum, and it worked fine. Can you elaborate on this point? -- atp The idea that there is no such thing as objective truth is, qui

Re: [Emc-users] Communication Channels (Was: An Open Letter...)

2012-01-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 January 2012 13:47, Sven Wesley wrote: > 3. There are too many info channels! Close down the forum on the LinuxCNC > website ASAP! It doesn't work, Google can't make correct forward links and > some browsers fail to show it. There is an active forum at cnczone I disagree. I don't like the

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Sven Wesley
2012/1/24 gene heskett > On Monday, January 23, 2012 11:57:10 PM Jeff Epler did opine: > > > Michael, > > > > I would like to address your concerns over the quality of the rebranding > > changes and the degree of consideration that they were given before they > > were made. I can speak only for

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Possible Retrofit candidate for someone in the heartland

2012-01-24 Thread andy pugh
On 22 January 2012 08:07, wrote: > why retrofit bridgeport machine when one can buy cnc machine X 50" Y 26" > travel CNC mill for $6.5 k That machine cost $85k new, so the standard of bearings, castings, screws etc is likely to be a lot better than a built-down-to-a-price $6.5k machine. Given t

Re: [Emc-users] [OT]Moveing pcb-gcode generated files to the milling machine=huge PIMA

2012-01-24 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/23/2012 02:16 PM, gene heskett wrote: > Thanks Mark, but I think NFS is going to solve my problems in that regard. > After 14 years of failure, I made it work, with a lot of help from this > list, this morning. Sweet! Shame on the man page writers for abstracting > the requirements till nobo

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Possible Retrofit candidate for someone in the heartland

2012-01-24 Thread Eric Keller
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > The motor was probably removed by the same process that modified the control boxes. That's pretty sad to see. It really looks like the whole thing has been on its side, and it's hard to believe there isn't significant damage to the impor