Re: [Emc-users] Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie (TheNewbie)

2012-03-18 Thread Bernhard Kubicek
Is the one-line lookahead statement also true blended paths? And how does it apply to splines? I find all this quite surprising, even grbl does lookahead over all the lines in the buffer (and hence has a latency while trying to pause or stop) Does somebody know if this diagram is whats linuxcnc d

Re: [Emc-users] Some more Storebro260(FANUC/Sinumerik) docs...

2012-03-18 Thread Jan de Kruyf
Holmquist, Do find out when the last major mechanical overhaul was done when you encounter machines like this. You will get into untold misery if you think that a retrofit of the computer solves all ills. Customers have this weird belief that the mechanical side is still as new (because it did not

Re: [Emc-users] Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie (TheNewbie)

2012-03-18 Thread Dave
I went though this exercise on a vinyl cutter application doing a lot of fine cutting details a few years ago. What I found is that if you want to do a lot of fine work quickly you really need to work on your 3D cam software to do curve fitting on the output. The only alternative to that is to

Re: [Emc-users] Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie (TheNewbie)

2012-03-18 Thread Yishin Li
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Youda He wrote: > This is very interesting, we are planning to.start using linuxcnc some time > in near future. We mainly mill organic shapes, such as 3DProcessing scanned > head models, the models start as mesh stl models with million a of small > triangles we w

Re: [Emc-users] Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie (TheNewbie)

2012-03-18 Thread Youda He
This is very interesting, we are planning to.start using linuxcnc some time in near future. We mainly mill organic shapes, such as 3DProcessing scanned head models, the models start as mesh stl models with million a of small triangles we would like to mill at fastest possible speed and can tolerate

Re: [Emc-users] Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie (TheNewbie)

2012-03-18 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 17:28:05 +0100, you wrote: >My assumption about Tarjectory planning was based on Anders Wallins >message as he mentioned some problem with limited look-ahead, >I suppose this affects the shape of the calculated path in some cases? Effectively LinuxCNC only looks ahead one l

Re: [Emc-users] Tool change question

2012-03-18 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 08:42:00 -0400, you wrote: >Steve, > >Interesting! Can I upgrade from 2.4.3 to 2.4.6 if I originally installed >from the LiveCD (10.04)? I currently see a bunch of potential updates >appear in the Update Manager window when I start my system, but >I was afraid to install them.

Re: [Emc-users] Tool change question

2012-03-18 Thread Dave
Setting a tool on a lathe is generally more complicated than with a mill where the Z dimension is the only offset. Doing it with a touch off probe on a lathe is a big deal. Usually a probe is setup and the tool is touched off the probe in the Z and X axes. But usually the probe must be ret

Re: [Emc-users] Tool change question

2012-03-18 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 12:37:21 -0500, you wrote: >Tony Zampini wrote: >> Or, to put it another way, how are >> users of EMC2 currently determining the new z offset after changing tools, >> assuming they don't use a probing feature? Just curious. >> >Each tool is run in a different program. With

Re: [Emc-users] Tool change question

2012-03-18 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 20:53:53 -0400, you wrote: > >I am not aware to a method that doesn't at some point make use of the G38.2 >function, which means there MUST be a probe of the tool. In my case, doing >pcb work using eagle & pcb2gcode, I wrote some routines that assume the >probing pin is con

Re: [Emc-users] Tool change question

2012-03-18 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, March 18, 2012 09:10:26 PM gene heskett did opine: > On Sunday, March 18, 2012 10:56:07 AM Michael Haberler did opine: > > Am 18.03.2012 um 13:36 schrieb Tony Zampini: > > > > ... > > > > > On a more general note, being able to "touch off after a tool > > > change" seems to me to be a

Re: [Emc-users] Tool change question

2012-03-18 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, March 18, 2012 10:56:07 AM Michael Haberler did opine: > Am 18.03.2012 um 13:36 schrieb Tony Zampini: > > ... > > > On a more general note, being able to "touch off after a tool change" > > seems to me to be a necessary function for any and every milling > > operation. Why doesn't EMC

[Emc-users] sector67 documentation - excellent read

2012-03-18 Thread Chris Morley
Scott I just want to complement you and your club members for the excellent documentation of your projects. people new to Linuxcnc or interested in learning a little about it should read this: http://code.google.com/p/sector67-sandbox/wiki/EMC2IntegrationClass I think it is a great summary wit

Re: [Emc-users] Sinumerik/FANUC vintage machines etc...

2012-03-18 Thread Dave
I didn't realize that General Numerics was a joint deal between Fanuc and Siemens. http://www.cnc1.com/News/customer-files/CNC_eNewsletter_Sep_2010.pdf It looks like there are encoders on the spindle and motor - last page of that one document. I first got involved with Siemens in 1992 after th

[Emc-users] Some more Storebro260(FANUC/Sinumerik) docs...

2012-03-18 Thread Roger Holmquist
Just added two more docs to my site 1) Image of Storebro 260, probably a similar machine I will encounter on Wednesday! 2) A german(!) techSpec from Storebro, veeery old but still decodable... http://abcnc.se/docs/Storebro260.png http://abcnc.se/docs/Storebro260-TechSpec_german.pdf Maybe someon

[Emc-users] Sinumerik/FANUC vintage machines etc...

2012-03-18 Thread Roger Holmquist
18 mar 2012 kl. 21:39 skrev emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net: > Not many neighbors to bother you.. ;-) > > Do you have good electrical power service there? > > Dave Well, Dave I did ask the question but I havn't got any answer yet. Just visited the place once recently and the machines w

Re: [Emc-users] Voltage to frequency for analog input

2012-03-18 Thread Thomas Powderly
Scott, great. what Hz sine wave can you track? regards TomP -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure __

Re: [Emc-users] Current Sensors

2012-03-18 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sun, 18 Mar 2012, Jon Elson wrote: > Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 15:41:54 -0500 > From: Jon Elson > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Current Sensors > > Kirk Wallace wrote: >> These look pretty handy: >> http

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie speaks again, this time FANUC/Siemes...

2012-03-18 Thread Jan de Kruyf
Holmquist, If your luck holds I might have a manual in the archives (VERY dusty boxes) and if that is true then it was already old in 1990. Siemens was already going their own way then. The cooperation was even before that time. I will have a look in the week. j. On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 9:57 PM

Re: [Emc-users] Current Sensors

2012-03-18 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote: > These look pretty handy: > http://www.pololu.com/catalog/product/1187 > These look quite nice, the price is amazing! They should be fairly fast to respond. Jon -- This SF email is sponsosred by:

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie speaks again, this time FANUC/Siemes...

2012-03-18 Thread Dave
How old is the lathe? I have a 1989/1990 vintage lathe that had a Siemens 880T on it. I have never heard of a Siemens 6T control. Perhaps it is "really" old? The Siemens CNC part numbers usually started with "6" and the drives usually started with a "6" also - as in 611 drives etc. But I do

Re: [Emc-users] Voltage to frequency for analog input

2012-03-18 Thread Scott Hasse
I must have been making some silly mistake. Adding the thread before the EMCMOT is working for me now, and I have reasonable analog values being read now. Thanks for the double check. The frequency capability is still not as high as I calculated would be possible, but it is high enough to avoid

[Emc-users] Newbie speaks again, this time FANUC/Siemes...

2012-03-18 Thread Roger Holmquist
I got a task from my coming boss and that is to configure an old Storebro 160 Lathe running Sinumerik 6T. There is an issue about resetting the coordinate system to the workpiece and doing tool compensation setup. He also told me the Siemens system should be the same as a FANUC 6 ? Anyway, m

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie Introduction, Missing link...

2012-03-18 Thread Dave
Not many neighbors to bother you.. ;-) Do you have good electrical power service there? Dave On 3/18/2012 2:09 PM, Roger Holmquist wrote: > Well, there was a missing link in my previous message: > > > > -SNIP- > >> SMP can be freely translated to "Great Swamps Production Inc" >> This is not

[Emc-users] Newbie Introduction, Missing link...

2012-03-18 Thread Roger Holmquist
Well, there was a missing link in my previous message: -SNIP- > SMP can be freely translated to "Great Swamps Production Inc" > This is not an ordinary machine shop. > It is situated in Sweden, in the northern part of Europe called > Scandinavia far beyond any normal place for a company of this

Re: [Emc-users] Current Sensors

2012-03-18 Thread Karl Cunningham
On 03/18/2012 10:00 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > Current can also be measured with an opamp measuring voltage across a > current sense resistor, but I'm worried about a common mode voltage in > the hundreds of Volts. Is there away to handle this? You not only have to withstand the CM voltage, you hav

[Emc-users] Current Sensors

2012-03-18 Thread Roland Jollivet
On 18 March 2012 19:00, Kirk Wallace wrote: > These look pretty handy: > http://www.pololu.com/catalog/product/1187 > > I'm thinking about ways to add load sensing for drives that don't have > this feature yet. Also, I wonder if they are fast enough for PWM signal > control? > > Digikey has some

Re: [Emc-users] Current Sensors

2012-03-18 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sun, 2012-03-18 at 10:15 -0700, Peter C. Wallace wrote: ... snip > Hall effect sensors are one way. They have the advantage of simplicity and > not > requiring floating power on top of the swited leg. TI makes some nice > isolated > current sensors (like the AMC1204) > > current sense resis

Re: [Emc-users] Tool change question

2012-03-18 Thread Jon Elson
Tony Zampini wrote: > Or, to put it another way, how are > users of EMC2 currently determining the new z offset after changing tools, > assuming they don't use a probing feature? Just curious. > Each tool is run in a different program. With manual tool changing, it is often more time-efficien

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory

2012-03-18 Thread Jon Elson
Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: > Tentative > dates for the CNC workshop? > Here's the official link at Village Press, the sponsor and coordinator : http://www.digitalmachinist.net/workshop?noredirect=true&noredirect=true Jon ---

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory

2012-03-18 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote: > On Sunday, March 18, 2012 05:08:57 AM Jon Elson did opine: > > >> gene heskett wrote: >> >>> Thanks Ron. That is only about 5 weeks down the road, we'll have to >>> see about that. What part of MI is Wyandotte in? >>> >> (Very) Slightly West of Detroit. >> >>

Re: [Emc-users] Current Sensors

2012-03-18 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sun, 18 Mar 2012, Kirk Wallace wrote: > Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 10:00:19 -0700 > From: Kirk Wallace > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: LinuxCNC Users List > Subject: [Emc-users] Current Sensors > > These look pretty handy: > http://www.pololu.com/catalog/product/1187

Re: [Emc-users] Tool change question

2012-03-18 Thread Tony Zampini
Thanks Mike, I'll have a look. - Original Message - From: "Michael Haberler" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Tool change question > > Am 18.03.2012 um 13:36 schrieb Tony Zampini: > > ... > >> On a more general note

[Emc-users] Current Sensors

2012-03-18 Thread Kirk Wallace
These look pretty handy: http://www.pololu.com/catalog/product/1187 I'm thinking about ways to add load sensing for drives that don't have this feature yet. Also, I wonder if they are fast enough for PWM signal control? Digikey has some other models of these sensors but it seems for my purposes,

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory

2012-03-18 Thread Dave
Wyandotte is actually "downriver" from Detroit, just off I-75 - down the Detroit river. "Downriver" is a common description Detroiters use to describe the hinterlands to the south of Detroit. I drove past Wyandotte yesterday going from Plymouth, MI to Dearborn, MI (they have some excellent ba

Re: [Emc-users] Smart-serial and 7i43

2012-03-18 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sun, 18 Mar 2012, Viesturs L?cis wrote: > Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 07:21:38 -0400 > From: "[UTF-8] Viesturs L?cis" > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Smart-serial and 7i43 > > 2012/3/17 Peter C. Wallace :

Re: [Emc-users] Smart-serial and 7i43

2012-03-18 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sun, 18 Mar 2012, Viesturs L?cis wrote: > Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 07:21:38 -0400 > From: "[UTF-8] Viesturs L?cis" > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Smart-serial and 7i43 > > 2012/3/17 Peter C. Wallace :

Re: [Emc-users] Tool change question

2012-03-18 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 18.03.2012 um 13:36 schrieb Tony Zampini: ... > On a more general note, being able to "touch off after a tool change" seems > to me to be a necessary function for any and every milling operation. Why > doesn't EMC2 have this feature built-in? Or, to put it another way, how are > users of EMC2

Re: [Emc-users] Tool change question

2012-03-18 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/18 Tony Zampini : > Steve, > > Interesting! Can I upgrade from 2.4.3 to 2.4.6 if I originally installed > from the LiveCD (10.04)? I currently see a bunch of potential updates > appear in the Update Manager window when I start my system, but > I was afraid to install them. If I do install th

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie introduction

2012-03-18 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/18 Roger Holmquist : > > This is not an ordinary machine shop. > It is situated in Sweden, in the northern part of Europe called > Scandinavia far beyond any normal place for a company of this sort > (well, 5 km) like HERE > > Yes, it is a former farm but what's inside the buildings are CNC

Re: [Emc-users] Tool change question

2012-03-18 Thread Tony Zampini
Steve, Interesting! Can I upgrade from 2.4.3 to 2.4.6 if I originally installed from the LiveCD (10.04)? I currently see a bunch of potential updates appear in the Update Manager window when I start my system, but I was afraid to install them. If I do install them, will that get me up to 2.4.6? T

Re: [Emc-users] Tool change question

2012-03-18 Thread Tony Zampini
Mike, Point well taken. Right now, I'm milling PC boards using Eagle CAD and the pcb-gcode ULP script for Eagle. It doesn't generate oword statements, only simple inline G-code. So hopefully I won't run into any trouble. On a more general note, being able to "touch off after a tool change" seems

Re: [Emc-users] Tool change question

2012-03-18 Thread Tony Zampini
Viesturs, Thanks! Tony - Original Message - From: "Viesturs Lacis" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 3:36 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Tool change question 2012/3/18 Tony Zampini : > > There is a reference to the name in the script itself: > > h = hal

[Emc-users] Newbie introduction

2012-03-18 Thread Roger Holmquist
Hello and thanks again for all your input of my previous subject. I have read and contemplated your suggestions and followed most of your links. Now my intention is to establish a pilot project at my, I believe coming employers place SMP SMP can be freely translated to "Great Swamps Production

Re: [Emc-users] Smart-serial and 7i43

2012-03-18 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/18 Mark Wendt (Contractor) : > On 3/17/2012 1:08 PM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: >> 2012/3/17 Mark Wendt (Contractor): >> >>> You're missing at least the Boost.Python libraries for C++ (gcc). Dunno >>> what else you're missing since I don't know what you have on your >>> machine. ;-) >>> >> I just

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory

2012-03-18 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
On 3/17/2012 5:50 PM, Ron Ginger wrote: > On 3/17/2012 4:12 PM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > >>In fact, my GMC fired up an hour ago for the >> first time in several months, with a fresh engine in it, so hitting NAMES >> might not be out of the question if they hold one t

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie

2012-03-18 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
On 3/17/2012 4:06 PM, gene heskett wrote: >> Gene, >> >> Support is one of the things I mentioned, and IMO, probably one of our >> more important things to market. We do have a bunch of different >> channels available for support, from this mailing list, to the IRC, to >> our own forum and to the

Re: [Emc-users] Smart-serial and 7i43

2012-03-18 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
On 3/17/2012 1:08 PM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > 2012/3/17 Mark Wendt (Contractor): > >> You're missing at least the Boost.Python libraries for C++ (gcc). Dunno >> what else you're missing since I don't know what you have on your >> machine. ;-) >> > I just want to test one 8i20 servo drive,

Re: [Emc-users] Smart-serial and 7i43

2012-03-18 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/17 Peter C. Wallace : > Heres tha latest I have(any SSERIAL with 5 registers has to be at least 6 > months old) So I got LinuxCNC to start up without errors. I have connected 8i20 drive to 7i43 card. 1) But I do not see it in "Show HAL config" (I expect it to appear there, if sserial modul

Re: [Emc-users] Voltage to frequency for analog input

2012-03-18 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/18 Chris Morley : > >> If I would do what you suggest and put my changes directly in the hal file, >> then every change I make in pncconf would require me to manually re-merge >> my custom changes.  AFAIK, the recommended approach for custom hal via >> pncconf is custom.hal (and custom_postg

Re: [Emc-users] Tool change question

2012-03-18 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 20:22:09 -0400, you wrote: >Also, you mentioned you had to press Alt-TAB to change focus. I found >all I had to do, after the tool change dialog box appeared, was to click >anywhere in the EMC window, and it picked up focus. Then I could jog, >touch off, etc. And I didn't have

Re: [Emc-users] Tool change question

2012-03-18 Thread Michael Haberler
re: "sort of": be aware that this method relies on the run-from-line feature - which isnt exactly bullet-proof in particular when using oword constructs/procedures see the bugtracker for RFL issues -m Am 18.03.2012 um 01:22 schrieb Tony Zampini: > Well, I made the changes to Les Newell's scri

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory

2012-03-18 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, March 18, 2012 05:08:57 AM Jon Elson did opine: > gene heskett wrote: > > Thanks Ron. That is only about 5 weeks down the road, we'll have to > > see about that. What part of MI is Wyandotte in? > > (Very) Slightly West of Detroit. > > Jon That would be a two day drive each way for

Re: [Emc-users] Tool change question

2012-03-18 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/18 Tony Zampini : > > There is a reference to the name in the script itself: > >    h = hal.component("hal_manualtoolchange") > > Do I need to change the name here too? > > Also, in the .ini file, the name appears in four places: > >    loadusr -W hal_manualtoolchange >    net tool-change io

Re: [Emc-users] Voltage to frequency for analog input

2012-03-18 Thread Chris Morley
Scott I added loadrt threads name1=testthread period1=20 to a config before loading EMCMOT it seemed to load fine. What commands did you use? > Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 21:08:43 -0500 > From: scott.ha...@gmail.com > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Voltage to fre