Re: [Emc-users] american robot

2010-12-26 Thread Stuart Stevenson
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > ok - thanks for the nudge - I will explore further > > -- > dos centavos > uh - further exploration revealed a diagnostician error. When checking joint_2 drive you really need to swap joint_2 with joint_1 instead of joint_0 with joint_1.

Re: [Emc-users] american robot

2010-12-26 Thread Stuart Stevenson
ok - thanks for the nudge - I will explore further -- dos centavos -- Learn how Oracle Real Application Clusters (RAC) One Node allows customers to consolidate database storage, standardize their database environment, and

Re: [Emc-users] american robot

2010-12-26 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
(Sorry for the top posting - I don't know how to tell my phone to do it right :) ) The change Chris made basically compensated joint 2 for the rotation of joint 1. This was necessary because the lower arm doesn't rotate when the upper arm does, which is what genserkins expects. Regardless of

[Emc-users] american robot

2010-12-26 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, I have the drives all working. I cannot get joint_2 to move. The control will not send any commands to the axis drive. I have looked for changes/errors. I did not change anything regarding joint_2 while working with the non-functioning drives. I have swapped drives between joint_1 and

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-19 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, Update on the robot. I found the problem with the hard drive. I replaced the hard drive with a new sata. I connected a CD reader using the ide adapter. I tried to load the new hard drive without mounting it into the cabinet. Bad move, the hard drive vibrated off the shelf and hit the

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On 11/17/2010 09:13 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Gentlemen, >I forgot to mention how we were able to get the hard drive to work. We set > it upside down and it began working. > Stuart Tch. Such an obvious solution. How come you didn't try that first? ;-) Too bad you didn't get to the wat

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On 11/17/2010 02:54 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > have said hard drive in office to attempt image copy to new sata hard > drive > said hard drive spins but does not communicate > continuing communication attempts sans hammer > losing patience quickly as hammer retracts - threat of violence seems t

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-17 Thread Stuart Stevenson
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > Is there a power LED on the adapter? Mine has one, so I know if the LED > is dark, it has > lost +5 V power. I squeezed the contacts on the power socket and > expanded the male > pins on the crummy knockoff connector, but if it fails again, I

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-17 Thread Jon Elson
Stuart Stevenson wrote: > > I have done the cha cha trying to shake the connector enough - I will try a > hammer :) > Is there a power LED on the adapter? Mine has one, so I know if the LED is dark, it has lost +5 V power. I squeezed the contacts on the power socket and expanded the male pin

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-17 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, I forgot to mention how we were able to get the hard drive to work. We set it upside down and it began working. Stuart -- dos centavos -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standar

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-17 Thread Stuart Stevenson
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: > > Stuart: I'd copy the whole emc2 source directory to the new drive, and > also if you can email me the file emc2/src/emc/kinematics/genserkins.c, > I'd appreciate it. > > - Steve > > Steve, I copied the whole emc2-dev directory fr

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-17 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Chris Radek wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 03:24:26PM -0600, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > >> finally - USB to pata allowed my box to see the file system - I have config >> files from it. >> I have copied the new-5i23 directory from the lib/firmeware/hm2 directory. >> Is this all the files I need

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-17 Thread Chris Radek
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 03:24:26PM -0600, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > finally - USB to pata allowed my box to see the file system - I have config > files from it. > I have copied the new-5i23 directory from the lib/firmeware/hm2 directory. > Is this all the files I need to install on a new hard drive

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-17 Thread Stuart Stevenson
finally - USB to pata allowed my box to see the file system - I have config files from it. I have copied the new-5i23 directory from the lib/firmeware/hm2 directory. Is this all the files I need to install on a new hard drive? Which directory? american-robot or american-robot-ja3 thanks Stuart

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-17 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Stuart Stevenson wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Stephen Wille > Padnoswrote: > > >> Make sure to copy the data off before using said hammer :) >> There are USB interfaces to IDE and SATA drives, they're about $30 from >> NewEgg (for one with 3 connectors: 40-pin "normal" IDE, 44-pi

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-17 Thread Stuart Stevenson
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: > Make sure to copy the data off before using said hammer :) > There are USB interfaces to IDE and SATA drives, they're about $30 from > NewEgg (for one with 3 connectors: 40-pin "normal" IDE, 44-pin laptop > IDE, and SATA). > > have sa

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-17 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Alex Joni wrote: >> There was one change needed in genserkins, which took less than an hour to >> figure out. Converting the numbers from work envelope drawings to D-H >> parameters took a while as well. >> > Do you happen to remember what that was? > I don't think I saw an associated commit

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-17 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Gentlemen, >In studying the D-H parameter I see the use of 4 parameters. I see > genserkins http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/html//man/man9/genserkins.9.htmlhas > only three listed. Either I don't understand how 4 becomes three or > something is not correct in the DH pa

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-17 Thread Chris Radek
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:23:44AM -0600, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Gentlemen, > In studying the D-H parameter I see the use of 4 parameters. I see > genserkins http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/html//man/man9/genserkins.9.htmlhas > only three listed. Either I don't understand how 4 becomes three o

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-17 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, In studying the D-H parameter I see the use of 4 parameters. I see genserkins http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/html//man/man9/genserkins.9.htmlhas only three listed. Either I don't understand how 4 becomes three or something is not correct in the DH parameters description or genserkins.

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-17 Thread Stuart Stevenson
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Jon Elson wrote: > Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > > That machine is a bit goofy in that it has a SATA controller > > on the motherboard but a PATA hard disk, and it has a SATA-to-PATA > > adapter in between. So lots of connectors that can work loose. > > > > > Ye

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-17 Thread Jon Elson
Chris Radek wrote: > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:07:08AM -0600, Jon Elson wrote: > > >> Heh heh! Take THAT, you Mach3 wannabees! You still can't do serial >> kinematics! >> That also proves the kinematics must be pretty well calibrated, to do >> that with the stock >> XYZ G-code program. >>

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-17 Thread Jon Elson
Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > That machine is a bit goofy in that it has a SATA controller > on the motherboard but a PATA hard disk, and it has a SATA-to-PATA > adapter in between. So lots of connectors that can work loose. > > Yes, I have the opposite setup, and the horribly crummy AMP-clo

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-17 Thread Jon Elson
Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > That machine is a bit goofy in that it has a SATA controller > on the motherboard but a PATA hard disk, and it has a SATA-to-PATA > adapter in between. So lots of connectors that can work loose. > > Yes, I have the opposite setup, and the horribly crummy AMP-clo

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-17 Thread Stuart Stevenson
the unknown black shirt person in the video is Curtis. -- dos centavos -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 & L3. Spend less time w

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-17 Thread Mark Wendt
On 11/17/2010 07:23 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Hmmm, wonder if you could hook up a 20 mm chain gun to the end of the > >> arm, and be part of the new Predator movie. ;-) >> >> > you could then program it to do some 'handwriting' on the wall :) > > > dos centavos What? You wouldn't

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-17 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Hmmm, wonder if you could hook up a 20 mm chain gun to the end of the > arm, and be part of the new Predator movie. ;-) > you could then program it to do some 'handwriting' on the wall :) dos centavos -- Beautiful is wri

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-17 Thread Mark Wendt
On 11/16/2010 11:52 PM, Chris Radek wrote: > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:07:08AM -0600, Jon Elson wrote: > > >> Heh heh! Take THAT, you Mach3 wannabees! You still can't do serial >> kinematics! >> That also proves the kinematics must be pretty well calibrated, to do >> that with the stock >>

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-17 Thread Mark Wendt
On 11/16/2010 11:48 PM, Chris Radek wrote: > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 05:23:09AM -0500, Mark Wendt wrote: > >> On 11/15/2010 09:47 AM, Chris Radek wrote: >> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4OTtFpZV7U >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssrf9PtJIzU >>> >> Chris, >> >> Very

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-16 Thread Alex Joni
> There was one change needed in genserkins, which took less than an hour to > figure out. Converting the numbers from work envelope drawings to D-H > parameters took a while as well. Do you happen to remember what that was? I don't think I saw an associated commit.. Alex ---

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-16 Thread Alex Joni
uot;Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM > On 11/16/2010 09:51 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: >> is the configuration information stored anywhere off this hard drive? I >> want >> to get a

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-16 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 11/16/2010 09:51 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > is the configuration information stored anywhere off this hard drive? I want > to get a sata hard drive > An out-of-date version of the config is on the PATA drive in the old Dell we were using before the D510MO, i left it on the floor by the

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-16 Thread Chris Radek
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:07:08AM -0600, Jon Elson wrote: > Heh heh! Take THAT, you Mach3 wannabees! You still can't do serial > kinematics! > That also proves the kinematics must be pretty well calibrated, to do > that with the stock > XYZ G-code program. Awesomely, we found dimensioned dr

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-16 Thread Stuart Stevenson
will try the unplug/plug routine again tomorrow - was wanting to play with the kins a little this evening - oh well will get the power supply and hard drive mounted is the configuration information stored anywhere off this hard drive? I want to get a sata hard drive thanks Stuart -- dos centavos

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-16 Thread Chris Radek
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 09:05:25AM -0700, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > > Are you homing to index on the encoders? Nope, since the stepgens are in position mode, it won't work. It would be cool if it did, though. > Too freaking cool! > > And I'm glad to see you're putting the old control comput

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-16 Thread Chris Radek
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 05:23:09AM -0500, Mark Wendt wrote: > On 11/15/2010 09:47 AM, Chris Radek wrote: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4OTtFpZV7U > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssrf9PtJIzU > > Chris, > > Very neat! Who's who in each of the videos? In the first one, that's me w

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-16 Thread Chris Radek
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 01:17:57PM -0500, spad...@sover.net wrote: > > Well, truth be told, most of the time was spent trying to figure out what > was connected where on the robot, not configuring EMC. I estimate that between Kim K, Seb K, and I, we spent about 50 hours deciphering and rewiring i

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-16 Thread Chris Radek
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 09:07:05PM -0700, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > Well I'm not Chris but usually that means the boot hard disk is not > connected or not powered. Jiggle all the cables related to the disk and > try again. That machine is a bit goofy in that it has a SATA controller > on t

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-16 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 11/16/2010 06:34 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Chris - when you see this let me know if there is a secret boot sequence. I > get 'no boot device found' when I try to start the computer. > Well I'm not Chris but usually that means the boot hard disk is not connected or not powered. Jiggle

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-16 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, Not to downplay the effort here I would like to say the actual time taken to figure out the kinematics to be able to write the splash as shown was probably no more than 4 hours. Chris was very effective implementing this. By far the most time was the wiring - discovering and connecting

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-16 Thread spadnos
> On 16 November 2010 17:07, Jon Elson wrote: > >> Heh heh!  Take THAT, you Mach3 wannabees!  You still can't do serial >> kinematics! > > And it only took half a dozen of the most experienced EMC > integrators/developers several days to do it too :-) Well, truth be told, most of the time was spe

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-16 Thread Andy Pugh
On 16 November 2010 17:07, Jon Elson wrote: > Heh heh!  Take THAT, you Mach3 wannabees!  You still can't do serial > kinematics! And it only took half a dozen of the most experienced EMC integrators/developers several days to do it too :-) -- atp --

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-16 Thread dave
Really kool stuff. I presume this robot has a task waiting for it. When push comes to shove emc triumphs. :-) Dave On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 11:07 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: > Chris Radek wrote: > > > > and the robot running in world mode using the genserkins (generalized > > serial kinematics) module

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-16 Thread Jon Elson
Chris Radek wrote: > > and the robot running in world mode using the genserkins (generalized > serial kinematics) module on the joints_axes3 development branch: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80YhX73DuSg > Heh heh! Take THAT, you Mach3 wannabees! You still can't do serial kinematics! That

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-16 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 11/16/2010 08:10 AM, Chris Radek wrote: > Two more videos: the robot's homing sequence > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmNlP7bm0Nc > Are you homing to index on the encoders? > and the robot running in world mode using the genserkins (generalized > serial kinematics) module on the joint

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-16 Thread Igor Chudov
awesome robot On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Chris Radek wrote: > > Two more videos: the robot's homing sequence > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmNlP7bm0Nc > > and the robot running in world mode using the genserkins (generalized > serial kinematics) module on the joints_axes3 development b

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-16 Thread Chris Radek
Two more videos: the robot's homing sequence http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmNlP7bm0Nc and the robot running in world mode using the genserkins (generalized serial kinematics) module on the joints_axes3 development branch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80YhX73DuSg This was the first test run

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-16 Thread Mark Wendt
On 11/15/2010 09:47 AM, Chris Radek wrote: > At MPM for a few years there's been a robot waiting for someone to > wire it up. Last night we finally got it moving. Seb K, Stuart S and > I were working on it this time (with Seb doing most the wiring, and > Stuart doing most of the mechanical work),

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-15 Thread William Baden
Looks good! Hope you guys had fun this weekend. Will Baden > Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 08:47:02 -0600 > From: ch...@timeguy.com > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM > > At MPM for a few years there's been a robot waiting for

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-15 Thread Jon Elson
Chris Radek wrote: > At MPM for a few years there's been a robot waiting for someone to > wire it up. Last night we finally got it moving. Seb K, Stuart S and > I were working on it this time (with Seb doing most the wiring, and > Stuart doing most of the mechanical work), but we also owe a lot o

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-15 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 11/15/2010 08:47 AM, Chris Radek wrote: > At MPM for a few years there's been a robot waiting for someone to > wire it up. Last night we finally got it moving. Seb K, Stuart S and > I were working on it this time (with Seb doing most the wiring, and > Stuart doing most of the mechanical work),

Re: [Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday, November 15, 2010 10:54:49 am Chris Radek did opine: > At MPM for a few years there's been a robot waiting for someone to > wire it up. Last night we finally got it moving. Seb K, Stuart S and > I were working on it this time (with Seb doing most the wiring, and > Stuart doing most of

[Emc-users] American Robot at MPM

2010-11-15 Thread Chris Radek
At MPM for a few years there's been a robot waiting for someone to wire it up. Last night we finally got it moving. Seb K, Stuart S and I were working on it this time (with Seb doing most the wiring, and Stuart doing most of the mechanical work), but we also owe a lot of thanks to Kim K who worke