Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-08-02 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 01.08.11 08:10, gene heskett wrote: The idea being to use the fan to distribute the heat so no external openings need be used, just the hot box itself. I might check to see if Dave has any more of those heat sinks I flattened the bottom of so he could test transmitter modules, that would

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-08-02 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, August 02, 2011 10:41:30 AM Erik Christiansen did opine: On 01.08.11 08:10, gene heskett wrote: The idea being to use the fan to distribute the heat so no external openings need be used, just the hot box itself. I might check to see if Dave has any more of those heat sinks I

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-08-01 Thread Lester Caine
gene heskett wrote: Some customers drop on a couple of cable ties as well just as extra security from knocks. Metal ties?, or the common 100 to the bag I can get, and have in stock from Lowes. They will relax, eventually I've found. Plastic ones, but it's one of those items that you have to

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-08-01 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, August 01, 2011 07:59:44 AM Lester Caine did opine: gene heskett wrote: Some customers drop on a couple of cable ties as well just as extra security from knocks. Metal ties?, or the common 100 to the bag I can get, and have in stock from Lowes. They will relax, eventually

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-31 Thread Lester Caine
gene heskett wrote: That will bear looking into, but it seems the BOB should allow me to continue to use the setup I have. I didn't get the g540, but 5 each of a slightly higher powered Chinese one per motor kit. $50.99 a channel. Free ship. One is a spare. Hopefully I'll only blow 1 at a

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-31 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, July 31, 2011 05:02:27 AM Lester Caine did opine: gene heskett wrote: That will bear looking into, but it seems the BOB should allow me to continue to use the setup I have. I didn't get the g540, but 5 each of a slightly higher powered Chinese one per motor kit. $50.99 a

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-31 Thread Lester Caine
gene heskett wrote: Forty Rogers on that. And I may have found the trigger of the xylotex's demise. I am using those 4 pin screw ring retainer connectors like CB radios used as a means of making the transition from the motors 4 wires to the 4 wire shield 'star-quad' microphone cable. The x

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-31 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
On 7/30/2011 7:15 PM, gene heskett wrote: Or, speak of el-cheapo, 70 bucks for what looks like that's about what its worth: http://cgi.ebay.com/4-Axis-TB6560-CNC-Stepper-Motor-Driver-Controller-Board-/130532324742?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item1e64553586 Nice fan cooled heat sink, but that

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-31 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, July 31, 2011 10:10:52 AM Lester Caine did opine: gene heskett wrote: Forty Rogers on that. And I may have found the trigger of the xylotex's demise. I am using those 4 pin screw ring retainer connectors like CB radios used as a means of making the transition from the motors

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-31 Thread Lester Caine
gene heskett wrote: That junction box on the motor, local made? Neat! Standard small box ... and a couple of short programs on the mill! http://medw.co.uk/wiki/index.php?page=180NcmMotorTermination The cable is 16/0.2mm with an overall screen but a lot more flexible than the Def Stan 16-2-4C

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-31 Thread Neil
On the subject of drivers, I really really like the IMS drives (IM483 and IM805). Very well engineering/build professional units, and handle a good bit of power. Even better, I can get support on these (which I needed some time ago when we thought we fried a couple). Downside is they're

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-31 Thread charles green
bad news, ubu 10 dies. --- On Sun, 7/31/11, Neil emc_d...@narwani.org wrote: From: Neil emc_d...@narwani.org Subject: Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Sunday, July 31, 2011, 8:20 AM On the subject of drivers, I really really like the IMS drives

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-31 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011, gene heskett wrote: Umm, can we have a gentler subject line? Bad news, XXX died is a little shocking for us sensitive folk... Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics -- Got Input? Slashdot Needs You.

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-31 Thread Neil
I use Molex or Amp connectors that look similar-ish to the 4-pin PC power connectors (but with opposing sides to mate together). Housings with pins are a couple bucks each and they handle a *lot* of power, and they have a positive lock. Seals are also available for under a buck. In this

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-31 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, July 31, 2011 10:33:02 AM Mark Wendt (Contractor) did opine: On 7/30/2011 7:15 PM, gene heskett wrote: Or, speak of el-cheapo, 70 bucks for what looks like that's about what its worth: http://cgi.ebay.com/4-Axis-TB6560-CNC-Stepper-Motor-Driver-Controller

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-31 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, July 31, 2011 12:59:28 PM Lester Caine did opine: gene heskett wrote: That junction box on the motor, local made? Neat! Standard small box ... and a couple of short programs on the mill! http://medw.co.uk/wiki/index.php?page=180NcmMotorTermination Thanks, bookmarked. I had

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-31 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, July 31, 2011 01:18:43 PM Neil did opine: On the subject of drivers, I really really like the IMS drives (IM483 and IM805). Very well engineering/build professional units, and handle a good bit of power. Even better, I can get support on these (which I needed some time ago when

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-31 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, July 31, 2011 01:21:30 PM Peter C. Wallace did opine: On Sat, 30 Jul 2011, gene heskett wrote: Umm, can we have a gentler subject line? Bad news, XXX died is a little shocking for us sensitive folk... Sorry Peter, didn't know you had sensitive eyes. ;-) Peter Wallace Mesa

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-31 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, July 31, 2011 01:22:55 PM Neil did opine: I use Molex or Amp connectors that look similar-ish to the 4-pin PC power connectors (but with opposing sides to mate together). Housings with pins are a couple bucks each and they handle a *lot* of power, and they have a positive lock.

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-31 Thread Neil
Quoting gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com: On Sunday, July 31, 2011 01:18:43 PM Neil did opine: ... http://www.imshome.com/products/im805.html http://www.imshome.com/products/im483.html These read a lot like the Chinese versions I just ordered. Hopefully the luck will rub on as they come

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-31 Thread Neil
Quoting gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com: On Sunday, July 31, 2011 01:22:55 PM Neil did opine: I use Molex or Amp connectors that look similar-ish to the 4-pin PC power connectors (but with opposing sides to mate together). Housings with pins are a couple bucks each and they handle a *lot* of

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-31 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, July 31, 2011 02:40:06 PM Neil did opine: Quoting gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com: On Sunday, July 31, 2011 01:18:43 PM Neil did opine: ... http://www.imshome.com/products/im805.html http://www.imshome.com/products/im483.html These read a lot like the Chinese versions I

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-31 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, July 31, 2011 02:53:23 PM Neil did opine: Quoting gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com: On Sunday, July 31, 2011 01:22:55 PM Neil did opine: I use Molex or Amp connectors that look similar-ish to the 4-pin PC power connectors (but with opposing sides to mate together). Housings

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-31 Thread cogoman
I read in Machine Design, or some other tech mag in one of those device forensics columns about a company that was getting their servo drives back from just one company at a rate of 4 failures a month. The engineer sent to check on it did some checking before he left and found that there was

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-31 Thread Neil
At home today, so don't have actual part numbers, but I think this is it... On www.digikey.com... Plug = A1452-ND Cap = A1453-ND Pins = A97892CT-ND Sockets = A97890CT-ND Seals (you need 2 outers and 1 middle) are in figure 6 of this page, and bottom list...

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-31 Thread Neil
Quoting gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com: ... But since we only have 5 or 6 basic chips that can do micro-stepping, it follows that the makers will choose one for each size and run with it. In ... Now that I think of it, I'm considerably sure that IMS uses their own ASIC. Cheers, -Neil.

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-31 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, July 31, 2011 03:42:41 PM cogoman did opine: I read in Machine Design, or some other tech mag in one of those device forensics columns about a company that was getting their servo drives back from just one company at a rate of 4 failures a month. The engineer sent to check on it

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-31 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, July 31, 2011 04:07:15 PM Neil did opine: At home today, so don't have actual part numbers, but I think this is it... On www.digikey.com... Plug = A1452-ND Cap = A1453-ND Pins = A97892CT-ND Sockets = A97890CT-ND Seals (you need 2 outers and 1 middle) are in figure 6 of this

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-31 Thread Lester Caine
gene heskett wrote: On Sunday, July 31, 2011 12:59:28 PM Lester Caine did opine: gene heskett wrote: That junction box on the motor, local made? Neat! Standard small box ... and a couple of short programs on the mill! http://medw.co.uk/wiki/index.php?page=180NcmMotorTermination Thanks,

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-31 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, July 31, 2011 06:40:47 PM Lester Caine did opine: gene heskett wrote: On Sunday, July 31, 2011 12:59:28 PM Lester Caine did opine: gene heskett wrote: That junction box on the motor, local made? Neat! Standard small box ... and a couple of short programs on the mill!

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-30 Thread R. van Twisk
Gene, I don't have experience with the G540, I am using the Vampire series which are a great set of drivers but they are not faultless!! But there return and support on broken drivers are very good. I did hear some good news from the UIM 2400xx series www.uirobot.com I know a couple of guys

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-30 Thread Steve Stallings
: Saturday, July 30, 2011 4:51 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died Greetings all; My xylotex went pop,pop,pop when I hit the keyboard for a x move about 2 hours ago. Also the odor of burnt parts was in the air. So, since this will be the 3rd

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-30 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote: What has been the general experience of this group with the G540? I can't specifically comment on the 540, but I have used the G251 drives that are part of the 540 package, and they seem to be just as good as the earlier G201 drives. It is pretty rare to let the smoke

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-30 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, July 30, 2011 06:41:18 PM R. van Twisk did opine: Gene, I don't have experience with the G540, I am using the Vampire series which are a great set of drivers but they are not faultless!! But there return and support on broken drivers are very good. I did hear some good news

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-30 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:50:31 -0400, you wrote: Greetings all; My xylotex went pop,pop,pop when I hit the keyboard for a x move about 2 hours ago. Also the odor of burnt parts was in the air. So, since this will be the 3rd xylotex to expire on me, I am inclined to look elsewhere for the next

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-30 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, July 30, 2011 07:33:20 PM Jon Elson did opine: gene heskett wrote: What has been the general experience of this group with the G540? I can't specifically comment on the 540, but I have used the G251 drives that are part of the 540 package, and they seem to be just as good as

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-30 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, July 30, 2011 07:38:21 PM Steve Blackmore did opine: On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:50:31 -0400, you wrote: Greetings all; My xylotex went pop,pop,pop when I hit the keyboard for a x move about 2 hours ago. Also the odor of burnt parts was in the air. So, since this will be the 3rd

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-30 Thread R. van Twisk
Gene, I am pretty sure they have a 4A and a higher version of it, not only 2amp at 40VDC I never used them myself, but I here they where cheap and pretty reliable. This guy didn't put them on his 34HS9802 (Nema 42), but in a box with some additional cooling. Ries On Jul 30, 2011, at 6:15

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-30 Thread gene heskett
. :( Regards, Steve Stallings -Original Message- From: gene heskett [mailto:ghesk...@wdtv.com] Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 4:51 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died Greetings all; My xylotex went pop,pop,pop when I hit the keyboard

Re: [Emc-users] bad news, xylotex died

2011-07-30 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, July 30, 2011 11:20:01 PM R. van Twisk did opine: Gene, I am pretty sure they have a 4A and a higher version of it, not only 2amp at 40VDC I never used them myself, but I here they where cheap and pretty reliable. This guy didn't put them on his 34HS9802 (Nema 42), but