On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 00:03:33 -0500 Nick Hughart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> Jose Gonzalez wrote:
> > Gustavo wrote:
> >> Since Edje is target at designers (ie: colors are not premul, etc), I
> >> think we should go with JS since most designers know it somehow, even
> >> if they don't really kno
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:12:00 -0500 "Nathan Ingersoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:46 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > oh of course. details! :) we can dot the i's and cross the t's soon
> > enough. :)
>
> Unfortunately, this really
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:18:23 -0500 "Nathan Ingersoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:
i agree here. i like our fairly flat (and lax) access structure. if we trust
you to go writing bits of e.org's website - we trust you to write code - if
that is your skill, or to just know to keep your hands off what
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 2:53 AM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2-Aug-08, at 1:40 AM, Nick Hughart wrote:
>> Vincent Torri wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, dan sinclair wrote:
I'd say you're so eager to release something you're not thinking
about
the impression it gives. C
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 2:40 AM, Nick Hughart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Vincent Torri wrote:
>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, dan sinclair wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I'd say you're so eager to release something you're not thinking about
>>> the impression it gives. Changing things in a pre-1.0 is fine and
>>> expect
dan sinclair wrote:
>
> On 2-Aug-08, at 1:40 AM, Nick Hughart wrote:
>
>> Vincent Torri wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, dan sinclair wrote:
>>>
>>>
I'd say you're so eager to release something you're not thinking about
the impression it gives. Changing things in a pre-1.0 is fine and
Gustavo wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Jose Gonzalez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Gustavo wrote:
>>
>>> Since Edje is target at designers (ie: colors are not premul, etc), I
>>> think we should go with JS since most designers know it somehow, even
>>> if they don't really know,
On 2-Aug-08, at 1:51 AM, Vincent Torri wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, dan sinclair wrote:
>
>>
>> How does our changing now affect them any different then if we
>> changed in 6 months?
>
> As I said, you think that we will release the next major release
> (with api changes, etc..) in 6 mont
On 2-Aug-08, at 1:40 AM, Nick Hughart wrote:
> Vincent Torri wrote:
>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, dan sinclair wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I'd say you're so eager to release something you're not thinking
>>> about
>>> the impression it gives. Changing things in a pre-1.0 is fine and
>>> expected. Releasing a 1.0
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, dan sinclair wrote:
>
> How does our changing now affect them any different then if we changed in 6
> months?
As I said, you think that we will release the next major release (with api
changes, etc..) in 6 months and I don't think that it will happen within 6
months. Mayb
On 2-Aug-08, at 1:37 AM, Vincent Torri wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, dan sinclair wrote:
>>
>> On 2-Aug-08, at 1:03 AM, Vincent Torri wrote:
>>
> This is probably better to do before we release. If we put out
> Edje
> with Embryo support and then remove Embryo with Edje2 we'll be
>>
Vincent Torri wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, dan sinclair wrote:
>
>
>> I'd say you're so eager to release something you're not thinking about
>> the impression it gives. Changing things in a pre-1.0 is fine and
>> expected. Releasing a 1.0 and then breaking it or making major changes
>> a few mon
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, dan sinclair wrote:
>
> On 2-Aug-08, at 1:03 AM, Vincent Torri wrote:
>
>>
>>
This is probably better to do before we release. If we put out Edje
with Embryo support and then remove Embryo with Edje2 we'll be pissing
off a lot of people that create themes and
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, dan sinclair wrote:
> I'd say you're so eager to release something you're not thinking about
> the impression it gives. Changing things in a pre-1.0 is fine and
> expected. Releasing a 1.0 and then breaking it or making major changes
> a few months down the road is a very bad
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:27 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> so eventually went back to an old original method. www lives in cvs - u want
> to
> work on it, u get cvs access. committing means it auto-updates. if u need to
> test the php locally setting up a local a
On 2-Aug-08, at 1:03 AM, Vincent Torri wrote:
>
>
>>> This is probably better to do before we release. If we put out Edje
>>> with Embryo support and then remove Embryo with Edje2 we'll be
>>> pissing
>>> off a lot of people that create themes and applications. Better to
>>> bite the bullet an
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:46 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> oh of course. details! :) we can dot the i's and cross the t's soon enough. :)
Unfortunately, this really needs to be done sooner than later. Without
a license listed, we now need to get the permission of
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 2:02 AM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2-Aug-08, at 12:52 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
>> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:39 AM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> You're releasing something before it should be released just to give the
>>> impr
>> This is probably better to do before we release. If we put out Edje
>> with Embryo support and then remove Embryo with Edje2 we'll be pissing
>> off a lot of people that create themes and applications. Better to
>> bite the bullet and deal with it now and get it done.
and what about people t
Jose Gonzalez wrote:
> Gustavo wrote:
>> Since Edje is target at designers (ie: colors are not premul, etc), I
>> think we should go with JS since most designers know it somehow, even
>> if they don't really know, they think they do and they will not be
>> afraid of trying it... Also, many systems
On 2-Aug-08, at 12:52 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:39 AM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> You're releasing something before it should be released just to
>> give the
>> impression of a 1.0 for something that isn't 1.0. That leaves a
>> worse ta
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:54 AM, Toma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As someone with no scripting or coding experience, I found embryo to
> be quite easy to get a handle on. I havent tried learning all those
> other ones, but when it comes to all the different code stuff in Edje,
> you really have to
As someone with no scripting or coding experience, I found embryo to
be quite easy to get a handle on. I havent tried learning all those
other ones, but when it comes to all the different code stuff in Edje,
you really have to keep it as simple as possible. After all, edje is a
canvas for art reall
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:39 AM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 2-Aug-08, at 12:33 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
>>
>> Guys, maybe you're forgetting about it, maybe you're hiding behind the
>> "we have not released a stable version for this reason", but the fact
>> is that this
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Jose Gonzalez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gustavo wrote:
>>
>> Since Edje is target at designers (ie: colors are not premul, etc), I
>> think we should go with JS since most designers know it somehow, even
>> if they don't really know, they think they do and they wi
Gustavo wrote:
> Since Edje is target at designers (ie: colors are not premul, etc), I
> think we should go with JS since most designers know it somehow, even
> if they don't really know, they think they do and they will not be
> afraid of trying it... Also, many systems use it as scripting
> langu
On 2-Aug-08, at 12:33 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
> Guys, maybe you're forgetting about it, maybe you're hiding behind the
> "we have not released a stable version for this reason", but the fact
> is that this will happen even now. Since there was not a release,
> people just assumed that
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:22 AM, Nick Hughart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Nick Hughart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Michael Jennings wrote:
>>>
On Saturday, 02 August 2008, at 10:52:08 (+1000),
Carsten Ha
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:46 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 20:27:30 -0400 dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
>> On 1-Aug-08, at 6:17 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>> > 2. edje - i have been mulling dropping embryo in favor of
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Nick Hughart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Michael Jennings wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, 02 August 2008, at 10:52:08 (+1000),
>>> Carsten Haitzler wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
seems there's a few votes for keep of embryo.
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Nick Hughart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Michael Jennings wrote:
>> On Saturday, 02 August 2008, at 10:52:08 (+1000),
>> Carsten Haitzler wrote:
>>
>>
>>> seems there's a few votes for keep of embryo. i'm going to just monitor the
>>> sentiment here - i'm agnostic
Michael Jennings wrote:
> On Saturday, 02 August 2008, at 10:52:08 (+1000),
> Carsten Haitzler wrote:
>
>
>> seems there's a few votes for keep of embryo. i'm going to just monitor the
>> sentiment here - i'm agnostic really - though edje needs a LOT better
>> "scripting" support. yes JS might b
On 1-Aug-08, at 8:55 PM, Luchezar Petkov wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 3:53 AM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> On 1-Aug-08, at 8:38 PM, Luchezar Petkov wrote:
> Setup a blog on one of the many blogging platforms around and we can
> syndicate the feed to planet.e.org. As r
On Saturday, 02 August 2008, at 10:52:08 (+1000),
Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> seems there's a few votes for keep of embryo. i'm going to just monitor the
> sentiment here - i'm agnostic really - though edje needs a LOT better
> "scripting" support. yes JS might be an option - python imho is just awa
>
>
>
> It only seems to be happening to you and Tomas blog. Everyone else is fine.
> It isn't wordpress in general as my blog is wordpress and it works fine.
> Just the two that are served from wordpress.com.
Should I consider moving the blog to another blog hosting service then?
>
>
> dan
>
>
Carsten wrote:
> .
>> Exactly. It's useful to have a variety of 'objs', some compound,
>> some primitive, etc.
>> I think both an "svg" object (set an svg file/group, support affine
>> transforms) and a "cairo"
>> object (an implicit cairo surface to draw on, set updates, etc), and
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 20:57:03 -0400 dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
>
> On 1-Aug-08, at 8:46 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> >> There is also a bug in Edje that has bitten us in Ewl a few times
> >> where re-using Edje objects seems to cause strange things to hang
> >> aroun
On 1-Aug-08, at 8:55 PM, Luchezar Petkov wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 3:53 AM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> On 1-Aug-08, at 8:38 PM, Luchezar Petkov wrote:
> Setup a blog on one of the many blogging platforms around and we can
> syndicate the feed to planet.e.org. As r
On 1-Aug-08, at 8:46 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>> There is also a bug in Edje that has bitten us in Ewl a few times
>> where re-using Edje objects seems to cause strange things to hang
>> around. I believe pfritz was the last person to look into this so he
>> might have some more
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 3:53 AM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 1-Aug-08, at 8:38 PM, Luchezar Petkov wrote:
>
>> Setup a blog on one of the many blogging platforms around and we can
>> syndicate the feed to planet.e.org. As relevant posts appear we can add
>> news items about them
On 1-Aug-08, at 8:38 PM, Luchezar Petkov wrote:
> Setup a blog on one of the many blogging platforms around and we can
> syndicate the feed to planet.e.org. As relevant posts appear we can
> add news items about them that point back to the blog.
>
> http://enlightenedjournal.wordpress.com/
>
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 02:40:29 +0300 "Luchezar Petkov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:
> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:17 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I can do that. I've been reading the CVS logs, E-devel discussions and stuff
> for years, so I think I can post news
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 20:27:30 -0400 dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
>
> On 1-Aug-08, at 6:17 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > yeah. i agree we need releases. it's probably our biggest issue.
> > right now in
> > lib-space i'd want to clean up 2 major thnigs that are curre
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 08:25:17 +0800 Toma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
seems there's a few votes for keep of embryo. i'm going to just monitor the
sentiment here - i'm agnostic really - though edje needs a LOT better
"scripting" support. yes JS might be an option - python imho is just away too
big an
>
>
> This is probably better to do before we release. If we put out Edje
> with Embryo support and then remove Embryo with Edje2 we'll be pissing
> off a lot of people that create themes and applications. Better to
> bite the bullet and deal with it now and get it done.
I completely agree.
>
> Setup a blog on one of the many blogging platforms around and we can
> syndicate the feed to planet.e.org. As relevant posts appear we can add
> news items about them that point back to the blog.
http://enlightenedjournal.wordpress.com/
Any suggestions, guys?
>
>
> dan
>
>
>
>
--
Luchezar
On 1-Aug-08, at 6:17 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> yeah. i agree we need releases. it's probably our biggest issue.
> right now in
> lib-space i'd want to clean up 2 major thnigs that are currently
> underway:
>
> 1. eina - move fully to using it. remove all data stuff from eco
2008/8/2 Nick Hughart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:23:41 -0300 "Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
>>
>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Nick Hughart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
Toma wrote:
> Does
On 1-Aug-08, at 7:40 PM, Luchezar Petkov wrote:
> I can do that. I've been reading the CVS logs, E-devel discussions
> and stuff
> for years, so I think I can post news and blog about the major
> events in the
> community/changes in the E(FL). The problem is, I am quite tech-
> interested,
>
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:23:41 -0300 "Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
>
>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Nick Hughart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Toma wrote:
>>>
Does embryo have any use without edje? If n
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Viktor Kojouharov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-08-02 at 08:30 +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:23:41 -0300 "Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
>>
>> > On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Nick Hughart <[EMAIL PROT
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:30 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:23:41 -0300 "Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Nick Hughart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Toma wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Does embr
On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 01:21:26 +0200 Timo Drick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> Hi all,
>
> i would like to make a proof of concept for displaying a jpeg video
> stream with evas. I will compare this to gtk. It is for a project that
> should run on the new Freerunner from Openmoko so performance i
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:17 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> as for blogging - yes. we need this. this is good. i've always liked the
> idea
> of a tech-interested person that reads cvs commit logs, hangs on irc and
> reads
> email.. and kind of blogs about the
Hi all,
i would like to make a proof of concept for displaying a jpeg video
stream with evas. I will compare this to gtk. It is for a project that
should run on the new Freerunner from Openmoko so performance is relevant.
My problem:
the evas function: evas_object_image_file_set(image, "test.
On Sat, 2008-08-02 at 08:30 +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:23:41 -0300 "Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
>
> > On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Nick Hughart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Toma wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Does embryo have any use without ed
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:04:39 +0200 "Jorge Luis Zapata Muga"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Jose Gonzalez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As the subject states, let me make a (relatively) short summary of some
> > proposed changes and additions to the evas gfx
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 00:40:04 -0500 "Nathan Ingersoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:
> Since the most recent license flamewar was triggered by the motivation
> of community building, I think now would be an appropriate time to
> brainstorm some additional ideas for helping to build the community
> a
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:17:17 -0400 Jose Gonzalez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> > fair enough. are co-ords relative to object or canvas-global? i think we
> > possible needs to make this object-relative?
> >
> >
>
> Object relative, ie. rel to obj's coord sys. - that works best for
> e
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:46:01 -0700 "Ian Caldwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> So now it is your chance to tell us why we should be using a specific cms
> verses the alternative of just making our own specific to our needs and
> keeping it minimalistic. Please give the pros and the cons and explo
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:23:41 -0300 "Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Nick Hughart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Toma wrote:
> >>
> >> Does embryo have any use without edje? If not, why not wait till edje
> >> is ready for release and send the
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:17:34 -0400 Jose Gonzalez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
>Carsten wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 05:58:24 -0400 Jose Gonzalez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > babbled:
> >
> >
> >> Ok, now for a proposed api for evas "vgfx objects" -- a very simple
> >> one, but general
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:52:31 +1000 David Seikel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:36:55 +0930 Samuel Nicholas
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Nick Hughart wrote:
> > > Toma wrote:
> > >
> > >> LoCo's (local communities) are a great way to get people involved.
> > >> You j
dan sinclair wrote:
> On 1-Aug-08, at 4:47 PM, dan sinclair wrote:
>
>>> *5. weekly or biweekly articles*
>>>
>>>
>> Ditto to 1. They can also write the articles on the Wiki which is
>> probably a better choice. Makes them easier to maintain in the long
>> run. They can then be link
The COPYING file for this is currently blank. What license is this
work under? Can someone please fill in the COPYING file.
Thanks,
dan
On 30-Jul-08, at 8:46 AM, Enlightenment CVS wrote:
> Enlightenment CVS committal
>
> Author : cedric
> Project : e17
> Module : proto/eina
>
> Dir : e
On 1-Aug-08, at 4:47 PM, dan sinclair wrote:
>> *5. weekly or biweekly articles*
>>
>
> Ditto to 1. They can also write the articles on the Wiki which is
> probably a better choice. Makes them easier to maintain in the long
> run. They can then be linked from the main site.
This is what we
On 1-Aug-08, at 2:04 PM, Ian Caldwell wrote:
> What would you like to see on the new website? What goals do you
> think it
> should have.
> My personal views are this is what we need to see differently. Feel
> free to
> chime in and add to what you'd like to see on the new site
>
> *1.
Err, not to burst your bubble or anything, but there wasn't a lot of
'writing' going on at get-e.
On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 13:28 -0700, Ian Caldwell wrote:
> well, now that get-e is basically shut down. that opens up some more writers
> right there.
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:26 PM, dn sinclair <[
I can suggest http://bricolage.cc/ . I've heard good things about it,
and I'm a perl guy myself. Though according to wikipedia, a recent
version embeds the php5 interpreter, so the php guys can feel at home
too.
On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 16:23 -0400, Sthithaprajna Garapaty wrote:
> The only reason for
well, now that get-e is basically shut down. that opens up some more writers
right there.
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:26 PM, dn sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 1-Aug-08, at 3:41 PM, Veli Ogla Sungutay wrote:
>
> > Articles friends. We need lots of them. Even a small tutorial, small
> > us
On 1-Aug-08, at 3:41 PM, Veli Ogla Sungutay wrote:
> Articles friends. We need lots of them. Even a small tutorial, small
> usage
> examples would do.
Saying we need articles is fine. Finding people to write good articles
is hard.
dan
--
On 1-Aug-08, at 2:49 PM, Michael Jennings wrote:
> On Friday, 01 August 2008, at 20:38:46 (+0200),
> Vincent Torri wrote:
>
>> I have no design, but i have already complained about the web site
>> on the ML. I'm not a good designers, but i think that there are some
>> things that MUST appear on a
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Nick Hughart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Toma wrote:
>>
>> Does embryo have any use without edje? If not, why not wait till edje
>> is ready for release and send them out together?
>> Toma
>>
>
> Yes it does, it just isn't really used outside of edje at this point.
The only reason for php would be that a number of the devs are
familiar with it, so if we need to write our own integration pieces,
it might be easier.
But the server is ours and we can install anything on it.. so PHP is
not a hard restriction.
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Viktor Kojouharov <[E
Toma wrote:
> Does embryo have any use without edje? If not, why not wait till edje
> is ready for release and send them out together?
> Toma
>
Yes it does, it just isn't really used outside of edje at this point.
> 2008/8/2 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> As
Does embryo have any use without edje? If not, why not wait till edje
is ready for release and send them out together?
Toma
2008/8/2 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi guys,
>
> As we're discussing on lots of threads, it would be good, if not
> necessary, to release parts of E that
On 1-Aug-08, at 10:40 AM, Matteo wrote:
>> because raster did it like that :-D
>> I'm not sure why people don't want to use a cms, but I've being told
>> that they want to keep like that (cvs based).
>
>
> If you keep it CVS-based, it's hard to develop and hard to update
> with news,
> topic an
The major part. If it is not done already, separate the presentation
from the logic code. Make sure a designer can do the job of styling the
site without touching any underlying code.
On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 11:04 -0700, Ian Caldwell wrote:
> What would you like to see on the new website? What goals
Should it be strictly written in php? The current website uses php, but
perhaps the doors are open for other languages, and the cmses written in
them.
On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 10:46 -0700, Ian Caldwell wrote:
> So now it is your chance to tell us why we should be using a specific cms
> verses the alt
There are a bunch of articles, but you won't reach them easily (like in a
list). (I always need to consult something on the wiki or docs and it's
always a pain to find related links).
I think a list of related links (such as wikipedia.org ones) at the bottom
would be really useful.
Cheersm
2008/
Articles friends. We need lots of them. Even a small tutorial, small usage
examples would do.
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Ian Caldwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What would you like to see on the new website? What goals do you think it
> should have.
> My personal views are this is what we
Hi guys,
As we're discussing on lots of threads, it would be good, if not
necessary, to release parts of E that we think are in good shape. This
will help in many fronts, including easy of use since distros will
start to package it officially. After Eet, I'd like to see Embryo
release since it's m
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Vincent Torri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008, Michael Jennings wrote:
>
>>> I agree. And that's exactly the opposite of raster's way of leading
>>> the project. He said that a lot, btw : he does NOT want to impose
>>> things to committers.
>>
>>
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008, Michael Jennings wrote:
>> I agree. And that's exactly the opposite of raster's way of leading
>> the project. He said that a lot, btw : he does NOT want to impose
>> things to committers.
>
> So why are you afraid he'll do so?
i am not, it's the contrary. I just want that s
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008, Ian Caldwell wrote:
What would you like to see on the new website? What goals do you think it
should have.
one remark and one question:
My personal views are this is what we need to see differently. Feel free to
chime in and add to what you'd like to see on the new site
On Friday, 01 August 2008, at 20:38:46 (+0200),
Vincent Torri wrote:
> I have no design, but i have already complained about the web site
> on the ML. I'm not a good designers, but i think that there are some
> things that MUST appear on a web site.
All I'm saying is, if something better had come
First off. Lets clear a couple things up. No one is not involving the
community. I was just saying wait a couple days so that we can clear up
some details with the boss (raster) . Now if you have opinions on the site
share your cms ones in the cms thread and the general ones in the what you
want t
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008, Michael Jennings wrote:
On Friday, 01 August 2008, at 19:47:22 (+0200),
Vincent Torri wrote:
So what ? Just an example of something that is nice (that is
exchange) does not mean that everything will be nice.
I never said that. But it does illustrate that doing somethin
Ian Caldwell wrote:
> Yup, I'd like to eliminate submenus completely One navigation on all pages
> that has links to pretty much everything. The goal of the new site is make
> it a lot more usable. With regularly updated news, and a lot of static
> content around it.
>
This is bad design imo, i
I think that the community. if it exists, should be involved!!! Then if
raster doesn't mind the e users opinion and does what he belivies right, it
isn't very important. But blog, write the plans and the projects in ml on
the site on blogs where u want. Many users are tired to see that it changed
n
Gustavo wrote:
> Join late the discussion and badly starting with a top-post, I think
> that trying to make Evas a canvas that supports both raster, vector
> and maybe other (3d?) is bad, it will increase complexity, decrease
> performance or both.
>
>
Increased complexity, yes - in the s
Yup, I'd like to eliminate submenus completely One navigation on all pages
that has links to pretty much everything. The goal of the new site is make
it a lot more usable. With regularly updated news, and a lot of static
content around it.
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Zachary Goldberg <[EMAI
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Downknew Wise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Sorry... i've read only now the other mails. I'll wait for the new e
> website... but would be nice if the webdesigner involved the community in
> the developement, at least with the mailing list...
>
> With the last mails
On Friday, 01 August 2008, at 19:47:22 (+0200),
Vincent Torri wrote:
> So what ? Just an example of something that is nice (that is
> exchange) does not mean that everything will be nice.
I never said that. But it does illustrate that doing something in
secret does not inherently invalidate it o
On 8/1/08, Ian Caldwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What would you like to see on the new website? What goals do you think it
> should have.
> My personal views are this is what we need to see differently. Feel free to
> chime in and add to what you'd like to see on the new site
>
> *1. Crea
Downknew Wise wrote:
> 2008/8/1 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Downknew Wise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Right!!!
>>>
>>> Now the site could have all the contents and the documentation necessary
>>>
>> to
>>
>>> the
Sorry... i've read only now the other mails. I'll wait for the new e
website... but would be nice if the webdesigner involved the community in
the developement, at least with the mailing list...
With the last mails i 've understand that this isn't a community... and e
cannot have its community...
What would you like to see on the new website? What goals do you think it
should have.
My personal views are this is what we need to see differently. Feel free to
chime in and add to what you'd like to see on the new site
*1. Create links to all the software ( wiki, bug tracker, forums,
sour
I've downloaded the e site from cvs. The php backend it's ok but ther's a
little problem: seems that the graphic isn't fully divided from the code. In
a website complex, such as this, the graphic side should be indipendent from
the backend to make the update work and the enhancements, the graphic
i
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008, Michael Jennings wrote:
> On Friday, 01 August 2008, at 19:29:25 (+0200),
> Vincent Torri wrote:
>
>> As always, everyone is doing is job without mentioning it. I was not
>> aware of a redesign of the website, i don't know what it will look
>> like.
>>
>> At least, you should
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