[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind leading the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind leading the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread navashok
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind leading the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: My understanding, not being a shrink, is that the Turq has some kind of a brain damage. He could be born with it, his military father might

[FairfieldLife] Re: The key to overcoming cult thinking

2013-02-27 Thread doctordumbass
Yep, like finding that tool, always shiny and ready in the toolbox. No muss, no fuss. The world is as you are, live unbounded awareness - MMY. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind leading the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread doctordumbass
Dear Navashok, the history of Barry's presence here on FFL is an interesting one. He started out as one of the gang, and pretty soon his creatively written, though logically inept, criticism of TM and Maharishi attracted some like minded souls. This went on for a few years. The salad days, for

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind leading the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: My understanding, not being a shrink, is that the Turq has some

[FairfieldLife] Vedic Tradition?

2013-02-27 Thread navashok
Is the description from David Lynch's website more honest? Where does the TM technique come from? The Transcendental Meditation technique is thousands of years old—it comes from an unbroken tradition of meditation instruction from ancient India. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi first introduced the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Tradition?

2013-02-27 Thread navashok
Sorry, wrong link I think, http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/about-tm.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@... wrote: Is the description from David Lynch's website more honest? Where does the TM technique come from? The Transcendental Meditation technique is

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind leading the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread seventhray27
Sure you hit hard at people. And many times it bothers me. But let's face it, insults are are about 50% of the fare here. And I think it's pretty obvious when a line is crossed. I got called on it a few days ago. To suggest that one's parent was a child abuser, I think crosses that line.

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to get health care in America...go to prison

2013-02-27 Thread feste37
I assume you mean this as a general comment rather than a direct reply to me. If not, you misread me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@... wrote: I think the health care system in America is an anamoly. I remember getting into a conversation with someone

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Judy

2013-02-27 Thread seventhray27
Issues are what we all have. Our past, present, and future relationship with the TMO is the main fare here. When people talk about issues in a general sense I, (and I think most others) know what is being referred to. Verdict: Scolding nullified. Repeat first down. --- In

[FairfieldLife] Obama outfoxed the GOP

2013-02-27 Thread raunchydog
If true, this is a good storyline: As the Sequester approaches, and Republicans finally get to slash the federal budget, half of them are sane enough to realize they look like idiots and the other half are too stupid to know they *are* idiots. Meanwhile, Democrats appear as responsible adults

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to get health care in America...go to prison

2013-02-27 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: But your taxes are higher in Canada, I assume. Not that much different. But one big tax difference is that we do not get to write off the interest paid on a mortgage for example. That is a pretty big tax 'perk' for those

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Carol

2013-02-27 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: Er, Steve, you seem to be getting a tad defensive here and it seems it is because you have this need to run to somehow divert what you perceive

[FairfieldLife] Re: The key to overcoming cult thinking

2013-02-27 Thread Buck
I think it is wonderall what the Transcendendtal Meditation has done to bring meditation and spirituality in to the light of science in the world. TM and the people in it is not all the cult that the haters would make it out to be but also is simple essential spiritual method in life. Some of

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind leading the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread Richard J. Williams
My understanding, not being a shrink, is that the Turq has some kind of a brain damage. He could be born with it, his military father might have hit him so hard as a boy that he never recovered, overly use of drugs at an early age or straining during Buddhist meditation.

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to get health care in America...go to prison

2013-02-27 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: But your taxes are higher in Canada, I assume. They must be, if you have virtually free health care. I will chime in here, to point out that you are making unwarranted assumptions. Re Canada, you are failing to consider whether

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind leading the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: The key to overcoming cult thinking

2013-02-27 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: I think it is wonderall what the Transcendendtal Meditation has done to bring meditation and spirituality in to the light of science in the world. TM and the people in it is not all the cult that the haters would make it

[FairfieldLife] MERU Programme Catalogue 2013 available

2013-02-27 Thread merlin
http://www.merucourses.com/MAILINGS/MERU_catalogue_2013.html MERU Programme Catalogue 2013 available   MERU Programme Catalogue 2013 Now available as a downloadable PDF or online flipbook Dear Members of Maharishi’s worldwide family, It is a joy to offer you the MERU Programme Catalogue

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to get health care in America...go to prison

2013-02-27 Thread feste37
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: But your taxes are higher in Canada, I assume. They must be, if you have virtually free health care. I will chime in here, to point out that you are

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind leading the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread Richard J. Williams
navashok: ...then it is an inexcusable sin, that cannot be forgiven. Where is Dr. Pete when we need him? LoL! People who are in cults are 'trained'. The 'training' shows when they 'perform' [for the *truth*], as they think they do for MMY and the TM org. I know. I went through the

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Carol

2013-02-27 Thread seventhray27
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: Er, Steve, you seem to be getting a tad defensive here and it seems it is

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind leading the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Hint: Just saying otherwise don't prove shit. *Especially* when the person saying it believes in little green men and saviors who do not and will never exist. The *only* thing that would PROVE that Nabby is in good

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Carol

2013-02-27 Thread Share Long
I have to admit it is weird when I'm absent from FFL for some time and return to find a discussion about me going on.  Anyway, thank you to both Ann and Steve.  I find Carol very reasonable and also thought she missed a crucial point of mine.  Which seems like a long time ago and I can't even

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind leading the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: Barry's addled mind has slipped into its alternate reality - conjuring up imaginary characters doing imaginary things. Real life must be so tedious, boring, mundane. The need to constantly create these scenarios of good

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind leading the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread Richard J. Williams
My understanding, not being a shrink, is that the Turq has some kind of a brain damage. He could be born with it, his military father might have hit him so hard as a boy that he never recovered, overly use of drugs at an early age or straining during Buddhist meditation.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Tradition?

2013-02-27 Thread Richard J. Williams
navashok: Where does the TM technique come from? From India and the Vedas? LoL! According to Mircea Eliade, only the rudiments of classic Yoga are to be found in the Vedas, and while shamanism and other techniques of ecstasy are documented among other Indo-European people, Yoga is to be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama outfoxed the GOP

2013-02-27 Thread Richard J. Williams
raunchydog: If true, this is a good storyline: My extensive reporting for my book 'The Price of Politics' shows that the automatic spending cuts were initiated by the White House and were the brainchild of Lew and White House congressional relations chief Rob Nabors — probably the foremost

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back

2013-02-27 Thread Share Long
I thought Elephant Man was one of the most touching movies I've ever seen.  And The Straight Story was quirky, but in a midwestern, down home  kind of way.  I also liked it a lot.  I'm not familiar with Lynch's other works and am not drawn to explore. Speaking as a former movie reviewer for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: This is the Video Obama Does Not Want you to See

2013-02-27 Thread Share Long
Hi seekliberation, I think you're right and it's a topic I'm fascinated by.  I call it the tinted glasses phenomenon.  How once people make up their mind about someone, for good or bad, it's well nigh impossible to change their mind.  For example, I don't care how many children Angelina and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Carol

2013-02-27 Thread Share Long
Hi Carol, that has got to be the most beautiful bug I have ever seen!  Thanks so much for including him (-: My main point is that our issues can often cloud our current moment thinking and it's helpful to be aware of that.  Especially if we're wanting to communicate convincingly to others,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: This is the Video Obama Does Not Want you to See

2013-02-27 Thread Alex Stanley
I never got sucked into the whole Obama = Messiah hysteria, and I am fully aware that he has plenty of flaws. My comment below was about Yahoo sparing us from the usual birther/teatard nonsense that WLeed3 habitually forwards to FFL, regardless of whether it actually contains factual content.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Vedic Tradition?

2013-02-27 Thread Bhairitu
On 02/27/2013 04:38 AM, navashok wrote: Is the description from David Lynch's website more honest? Where does the TM technique come from? The Transcendental Meditation technique is thousands of years old—it comes from an unbroken tradition of meditation instruction from ancient India.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to get health care in America...go to prison

2013-02-27 Thread Bhairitu
And the irony is that it would cost far less to fund a single payer health care system than wars abroad for empire. On 02/26/2013 10:40 PM, seekliberation wrote: I think the health care system in America is an anamoly. I remember getting into a conversation with someone on FFL about it and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Judy

2013-02-27 Thread Share Long
But I think at least once before, and maybe twice, MJ said that Dr. Oz didn't want to or was afraid to disagree with Oprah.  As for issues or traumas, I saying that if someone can't move on from some circumstance or event in their past, it means the trauma is still present in them and that will

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind leading the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread doctordumbass
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: Barry's addled mind has slipped into its alternate reality - conjuring up imaginary characters doing imaginary things. Real life must be so tedious, boring, mundane. The need to constantly create these scenarios of good

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind leading the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Hint: Just saying otherwise don't prove shit. *Especially* when the person saying it believes in little green men and saviors who do not and

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Carol

2013-02-27 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: I have to admit it is weird when I'm absent from FFL for some time and return to find a discussion about me going on. You were only 'gone' for 14 hours. Your last post was yesterday at approximately 5pm West Coast

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama outfoxed the GOP

2013-02-27 Thread John
Believe it or not, there are some people who think that this sequestration idea was proposed by the White House. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: If true, this is a good storyline: As the Sequester approaches, and Republicans finally get to slash the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Tradition?

2013-02-27 Thread navashok
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 02/27/2013 04:38 AM, navashok wrote: Is the description from David Lynch's website more honest? Where does the TM technique come from? The Transcendental Meditation technique is thousands of years old—it comes

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Tradition?

2013-02-27 Thread navashok
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote: navashok: Where does the TM technique come from? From India and the Vedas? LoL! According to Mircea Eliade, only the rudiments of classic Yoga are to be found in the Vedas, and while shamanism and

[FairfieldLife] David Lynch website mistake

2013-02-27 Thread navashok
http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/message.html Look at the caption under the photo. In my browser Firefox and Chrome, only Elephant Man, Wild at Heart, Twin Peaks, Blue Velvet, Lost Highway, Straight Story, Mulholland Drive, and INLAND EMPIRE. is visible. The rest David Lynch, founder and

[FairfieldLife] Weepy Wednesday

2013-02-27 Thread Share Long
because this little story brought tears to my eyes http://www.wimp.com/gloryshot/

[FairfieldLife] Mind boggling!?

2013-02-27 Thread card
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rISjBGOtHhs :D

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Carol

2013-02-27 Thread Carol
Steve stated: As for Carol, I detect a selective bias on her part, and I am just voicing it. Perhaps I am mistaken, but I have attempted to hi-light in a previous post. Maybe I am wrong about it. I'll have to ponder it...regarding having a selective bias. I possibly (probably?) do have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mind boggling!?

2013-02-27 Thread merudanda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOAK2xF15Rc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOAK2xF15Rc ay ay ay ay ay [:D] Surrounded by my colours (cool blue and FFL threads) I was posting one day(frankly one night) ay ay ay ay ay Cecilia Bartoli sings high E flat - Riedi al soglio

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Carol

2013-02-27 Thread Carol
Share stated: My main point is that our issues can often cloud our current moment thinking and it's helpful to be aware of that. I agree. Thinking back, this discourse got started with me when I brought upthe subject of that because Oz endorses TM that must mean that TM is a good thing (when

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mind boggling!?

2013-02-27 Thread Share Long
dearest I always wish the utmost happiness for you.  Including someone who inspires your heart to constancy and an ever present song runnning through your body Rushing to Dome From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent:

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Carol

2013-02-27 Thread Carol
BTW...thanks for the kind words Ann. I miss some posts on here and sometimes catch up a bit later...and still will miss some posts. Cheers! :) ~carol --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind leading the sighted - to Doc

2013-02-27 Thread doctordumbass
Eternity abides at all times in the silence within each of us; it is the nakedness of who we are and is continually reconciling all that exists. *Beautifully* put!!! Thanks! To get into technicalities, our thoughts serve the legitimate purpose of bringing our desires into being. However, in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mind boggling!?

2013-02-27 Thread merudanda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOAK2xF15Rc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOAK2xF15Rc Agitated by two winds trembling waves in the turbulent sea and the frightened steersman already awaits to be shipwrecked. By duty and by love this heart is assailed; it cannot resist and seems to give up

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mind boggling!?

2013-02-27 Thread merudanda
sorry this is the (w)right trembling waves in the turbulent FFL -sea- link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4It44mYw2I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4It44mYw2I --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOAK2xF15RcÂ

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Carol

2013-02-27 Thread Carol
Thanks for sharing that Judy. Interesting article. I have never watched Oz's show or really read much at all by or about him. Interesting that the one surgeon that knows Oz (I think it was a surgeon) would not recommend someone going to Oz for surgery. I wonder where Dr. Oz his wife will be

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Carol

2013-02-27 Thread Carol
PS: If I were to base my opinion of Oz by what is in this article, I'd lean toward he is another snake in a suit. Not saying he is, but this article leaves me with that impression. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol jchwelch@... wrote: Thanks for sharing that Judy. Interesting

[FairfieldLife] Re: Weepy Wednesday

2013-02-27 Thread David
yes indeed tears! love, D --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: because this little story brought tears to my eyes http://www.wimp.com/gloryshot/

[FairfieldLife] Post Count Thu 28-Feb-13 00:15:03 UTC

2013-02-27 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 02/23/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 03/02/13 00:00:00 509 messages as of (UTC) 02/28/13 00:04:35 50 Michael Jackson 49 authfriend 39 doctordumbass 36 turquoiseb 35 Ann 33 Share Long 30 nablusoss1008 27 Carol 23

[FairfieldLife] TM is from Maharishi Mahesh Yogi alone

2013-02-27 Thread srijau
this week on the Maharishi channel there is a clip where an initiator presses Maharishi about the question, where does TM come from, Maharishi clearly indicates in a self-effacing way that it comes from him alone, he figured it out based only upon the effortlessly blissful experience that he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Tradition?

2013-02-27 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@... wrote: I think there is only one truly Vedic mantra and that is OM. Dear Nava, Real TM tru-believers strongly hold that Maharishi's revival of Knowledge has saved India from `Om. I have been lectured several times on this very

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Judy

2013-02-27 Thread seventhray27
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: snip I didn't intend to upset Michael. I think turq is the only person I consciously try to bother. Mainly by bringing up jyotish on a regular basis. Beautiful. Prolonged smile!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Weepy Wednesday

2013-02-27 Thread seventhray27
Weepy Wednesday. I love it! And yes, the story filled the bill! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: because this little story brought tears to my eyes http://www.wimp.com/gloryshot/

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Carol

2013-02-27 Thread seventhray27
I am sorry to hear about your carpal tunnel. It runs in my family and my mom had it, as well as cousin. I am not sure if one of my sisters has it or not. But it sure is persistent, and in my cousin's case there doesn't seem to be anything he can do to alleviate, or correct it. --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Tradition?

2013-02-27 Thread srijau
the non-use of Om by householders is very well documented to have been emphasized by Swami Brahmananda Saraswati. There is so many famous mantras that do not use Om at all ... Shree Rama Jaya Rama...etc the examples are very many. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@...

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind leading the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: Barry's addled mind has slipped into its alternate reality - conjuring up imaginary characters doing imaginary things. Real life must be so tedious,

[FairfieldLife] Exorcising Demons from Second-Hand Clothes

2013-02-27 Thread John
Pat Robertson recommendss it. This is somewhat similar to an idea in jyotish which states that one should not wear clothes used by others. These clothes supposedly would be carrying the karma of those who had previously worn them.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind leading the sighted

2013-02-27 Thread doctordumbass
Oh no!! The favorite cafe revealed! insert gratuitous joke regarding writing that stinks... Always an inspiration, Ann! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Exorcising Demons from Second-Hand Clothes

2013-02-27 Thread doctordumbass
This is an amazing Karmic Koincidence!! I was just surfing the web, and check this out - This miracle product singularly exorcises demons from used clothing, while remaining faithful to the style of communication favored by Pat Robertson:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Exorcising Demons from Second-Hand Clothes

2013-02-27 Thread John
No commercials are allowed here. Just a reminder. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: This is an amazing Karmic Koincidence!! I was just surfing the web, and check this out - This miracle product singularly exorcises demons from used clothing,