[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-24 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > >Well put -- this sounds a lot like a form of "sleep-witnessing," when > >the Self, pure consciousness, the Witness, begins to shine forth so > >strongly that we feel as if we're always awake, even while the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-24 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > >Well put -- this sounds a lot like a form of "sleep-witnessing," when > >the Self, pure consciousness, the Witness, begins to shine forth so > >strongly that we feel as if we're always awake, even while t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > >Well put -- this sounds a lot like a form of "sleep-witnessing," > >when the Self, pure consciousness, the Witness, begins to shine > >forth so strongly that we feel as if we're always awake, even > >while

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-24 Thread Vaj
On May 24, 2007, at 4:29 AM, John Davis wrote: >Well put -- this sounds a lot like a form of "sleep-witnessing," when >the Self, pure consciousness, the Witness, begins to shine forth so >strongly that we feel as if we're always awake, even while the body is >actually sleeping. It's generall

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-24 Thread John Davis
e thought though! John - Original Message - From: "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 4:59 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As f

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-23 Thread hyperbolicgeometry
-- Below - primordial sounds prior to mantras. (Precisely the point of the Sant Mat Gurus!)the so-called Yoga of Light and Sound. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On May 23, 200

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-23 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On May 23, 2007, at 11:49 AM, John Davis wrote: > > > The concept/fact of the TM mantras being older than the Hindu > > religion, and > > so also older than the gods named after them, which might then be > > seen as >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-23 Thread qntmpkt
---an intellectual discourse on the origins of Vedic vs non-Vedic; etc, is lower on my list of priorities than the fact that TM works!. What does your guru have to offer, the Dance of the Vajra? In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On May 23, 2007, at 11:49 A

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tertonzeno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ---The key ingredient is the power of the mantra, irrespective of > the purported superficial meaning. For example, the mantra "OM > Namah Shivaya" clearly alludes to Shiva, so there can be no > argument as to whet

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On May 23, 2007, at 11:49 AM, John Davis wrote: > > > The concept/fact of the TM mantras being older than the Hindu > > religion, and so also older than the gods named after them, > > which might then be seen as personalis

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-23 Thread Rick Archer
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , "John Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As for insomnia, someone asked whether I feel tired during the day. And, > oddly, not much. A little wearier, but certainly not as tired as I should > have expected on only a fe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-23 Thread tertonzeno
---The key ingredient is the power of the mantra, irrespective of the purported superficial meaning. For example, the mantra "OM Namah Shivaya" clearly alludes to Shiva, so there can be no argument as to whether a "God" is involved. The big question is the amount of Shakti connected to the man

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-23 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > Many thanks for all your comments, thoughts, and advice. If I'm not replying > to every individual email, it is to avoid cluttering up your list! But I > have read and considered all of them. > > The conc

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-23 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As for insomnia, someone asked whether I feel tired during the day. And, > oddly, not much. A little wearier, but certainly not as tired as I should > have expected on only a few hours sleep. Further, on contempla

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-23 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > See a doctor. If you are really insomniac, none of this advice will > help you one bit. > I would try anything else before seeing a doctor. By doing that, in the worst case you'll end up being a benzo addict.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-22 Thread tertonzeno
--- by all means, stay away from Doctors!. They can be VERY injurious to your health and most don't give a crap about anybody. There are of course, exceptions; but they are rarely into alternative health. Orthodox methods (cut, burn, excise, not "exercise") are the predominant practice. But g

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-22 Thread m2smart4u2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John Davis" > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm new to this list, so I hope the following post

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John Davis" > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm new to this list, so I hope the following post is appropriate. > It is > > also somewhat lengthy, for which I apologise - co

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-22 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm new to this list, so I hope the following post is appropriate. It is > also somewhat lengthy, for which I apologise - conciseness was never my > strong point. But I am in search of a spot of advice,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-22 Thread tertonzeno
---On insomnia, start with various nutraceuticals which influence your neurotransmitters (of which there are 2 main types: inhibitory and excitory). You want the inhibitory neurotransmitters. Start with 1. GABA, 2. Melatonin 3. L-Theanine and a new high- potency form of the Ayurvedic herb Ashwag

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-22 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi OffWorld, > > >> Moreover, when meditating I am in effect praying to a god not of > >>my culture, > >> and of whom I have no knowledge, which leaves me deeply > >>uncomfortable.>> > > >Why are you afraid of Gods

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-22 Thread Vaj
On May 22, 2007, at 8:00 PM, bob_brigante wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John Davis" wrote: > > > > But since then I have suffered increasingly > > from insomnia. Not to a dreadful degree, but > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-22 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm new to this list, so I hope the following post is appropriate. It is > also somewhat lengthy, for which I apologise - conciseness was never my > strong point. But I am in search of a spot of advice, a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-22 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John Davis" wrote: > > > > But since then I have suffered increasingly > > from insomnia. Not to a dreadful degree, but > > I'm lucky if I get three hours sleep a night... >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As to whether the mantra "works" any better as > a vehicle of meditation in either case, I have > to say that I have seen no evidence that there > is any difference at all. I have known people > who received a "cavalier

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-22 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" > wrote: > > > > > Doing any asana other than inverted postures will increase > the possibility of insomnia. > > > > > > > > > It works. That's all. > > > > Is you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ... Go with your empirical experience regarding > asanas, not some mumbo-jumbo written about them. (For > example, if you do a headstand every day for one year > your gray hair will disappear...yeah, right!) Dude, that was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of John Davis > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:02 AM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-22 Thread Peter
--- uns_tressor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Doing any asana other than inverted postures > will increase the > > > > possibility of insomnia. > > > > > > > It works. That's all. > > > Is your view based on your experience, Shemp, or > some > > > exotic scripture possibly mistranslated?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-22 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Doing any asana other than inverted postures will increase the > > > > possibility of insomnia. > > > > > > > It works. That's all. > > > Is your view based on your experience, Shemp, or some > > > exotic

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-22 Thread uns_tressor
> > > Doing any asana other than inverted postures will increase the > > > possibility of insomnia. > > > > > It works. That's all. > > Is your view based on your experience, Shemp, or some > > exotic scripture possibly mistranslated? > > Uns. > > > > Instructions from my certified Iyengar yoga

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-22 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John Davis" wrote: > > > > But since

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-22 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John Davis" wrote: > > > But since then I have suffered increasingly > > > from insomnia. Not to a dreadful de

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Try thinking of gods not as they are depicted in Hindu mythology, > but as higher, more fundamental or more comprehensive impulses of > organizing intelligence. For instance, just as a liver cell might > think of

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-22 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Davis Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:02 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought Hi OffWorld, >> Moreover, when meditating I am in effect praying to a god not o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-22 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John Davis" wrote: > > > > > > But since then I have suffered increasingly > > > from insomnia. Not to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-22 Thread shempmcgurk
potentially > insulting to one who does believe. > > John > > > - Original Message ----- > From: "off_world_beings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 1:55 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought > > > --- In Fairfi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-22 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On May 22, 2007, at 6:41 AM, John Davis wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm new to this list, so I hope the following post is > appropriate. > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-22 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John Davis" wrote: > > > > But since then I have suffered increasingly > > from insomnia. Not to a dreadful degree, but > > I'm lucky if I get three hours sleep a night... >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-22 Thread John Davis
lting to one who does believe. John - Original Message - From: "off_world_beings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 1:55 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-22 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But since then I have suffered increasingly > from insomnia. Not to a dreadful degree, but > I'm lucky if I get three hours sleep a night... > Get your teacher (or someone else) to teach you the asanas. Do a couple

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-22 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On May 22, 2007, at 6:41 AM, John Davis wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm new to this list, so I hope the following post is appropriate. > > It is > > also somewhat lengthy, for which I apologise - conciseness was > > neve

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-22 Thread John Davis
tion... Thanks, John - Original Message - From: "TurquoiseB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 1:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > H

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-22 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm new to this list, so I hope the following post is appropriate. It is > also somewhat lengthy, for which I apologise - conciseness was never my > strong point. But I am in search of a spot of advice,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice Sought

2007-05-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hmm. I'm not sure there is a question in the above, so much as > a seeking of thoughts and opinion. Hi, John. I'll offer some thoughts and opinons, which should be regarded as nothing more. I speak as a former TM