--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> I'm very glad to hear that.
>
Really?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> So we don't get all confused here, Curtis, let's be
> very clear at the outset that Ruth has said she's not
> having emotional difficulties, and I'm taking her
> word for it. What you and I are discussing below is a
> sort of retrospect
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> wrote:
> >
> > So whenever a person seems upset about something they
> > should seek mental health help?
>
> No, Curtis, only if they're having serious difficulties
> dealin
So we don't get all confused here, Curtis, let's be
very clear at the outset that Ruth has said she's not
having emotional difficulties, and I'm taking her
word for it. What you and I are discussing below is a
sort of retrospective look at my original suggestion,
before Ruth had weighed in. Underst
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote:
>
> > > > And I wish I had
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> >
> > On Apr 5, 2009, at 12:43 PM, shukra69 wrote:
> >
> > > Here is the person who has no truth in him, when caught
> > > in lies tells many more lies, accusing someone of having
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" wrote:
>
> Figured I'd drop in today to see what's going on post concert.
>
> Nothing much changes with you Judy. Nearly every post of yours
> concerns Barry in one way or another.
It's just Judy proving that she's not "distraught"
by spendin
Mad as a March Hare Geez, and twice as nasty.
Even in April.
Some postulate rabies. I'm thinkin' its just in
the DNA.
Contrary to Mr. Carroll's speculation, she will be,
should you return, just as raving mad in May.
Can't call her bat-shit insane anymore. The bat lovers
here pointed out how co
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote:
>
> On Apr 5, 2009, at 7:16 PM, geezerfreak wrote:
>
> > Figured I'd drop in today to see what's going on post concert.
> >
> > Nothing much changes with you Judy. Nearly every post of yours
> > concerns Barry in one way or another. And
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote:
> And you certainly feel free to stick it in Knapp,
> so why would you recommend him?
Because you've said you liked him, because he's
easily accessible, and because he's had experience
dealing with people in distress that they attribute
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote:
> > And I wish I had never started and my friends never
> > started. I wish my friends had never become parusha
> > or siddhas and lived lives sucking resources from
> > oth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote:
>
> On Apr 5, 2009, at 7:16 PM, geezerfreak wrote:
>
> > Figured I'd drop in today to see what's going on post concert.
> >
> > Nothing much changes with you Judy. Nearly every post
> > of yours concerns Barry in one way or another. And he
On Apr 5, 2009, at 7:16 PM, geezerfreak wrote:
Figured I'd drop in today to see what's going on post concert.
Nothing much changes with you Judy. Nearly every post of yours
concerns Barry in one way or another. And here you are offering to
"match IQ's with Ruth anytime".
You have no idea
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" wrote:
>
> Figured I'd drop in today to see what's going on post
> concert.
>
> Nothing much changes with you Judy. Nearly every post
> of yours concerns Barry in one way or another.
Geez, perhaps you missed the fact that I was responding
to a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote:
> Judy, When I read your post to Ruth I immediately
> recognized your intention to reach out to her out as
> one human being to another in the spirit of compassion.
> You even shared something personal about yourself,
> about not being wir
Figured I'd drop in today to see what's going on post concert.
Nothing much changes with you Judy. Nearly every post of yours concerns Barry
in one way or another. And here you are offering to "match IQ's with Ruth
anytime".
You have no idea how ridiculous you come off do you.
--- In Fairfiel
I have it on good source that Sal is really a college guy posing as a
bitter woman.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" jstein@ wrote:
>
> > The reason Sal doesn't deal with me any more is that
> > she isn't up to it.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> Actually, if it summed up my ENTIRE position, I
> wouldn't have gone on to write what Barry carefully
> snipped (because if he hadn't snipped it, what he
> went on to say wouldn't have made any sense).
>
> Here's the rest of what I sa
Just for fun, I'm going to "fisk" this post of Barry's.
I'm going to start with something from the end of his
post, because it's so hilarious:
> Believe something other than what Judy believes,
> and there is something WRONG with you.
Here's a question to ponder: If I thought there
was something
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote:
> In Judy's case, yes. That's apparently the only
> way she wants to deal with legitimate objections--
> villify the messenger--read their minds--use manipulation
> and fake "concern" instead of responding rationally. And then
> she accu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
> On Apr 5, 2009, at 11:45 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote:
>
> > On Apr 5, 2009, at 10:27 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> >
> >> You have plenty of emotion that you express in your
> >> positions here. Neither of us are summing up your
> >> objections as
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 5, 2009, at 12:43 PM, shukra69 wrote:
>
> > Here is the person who has no truth in him, when caught
> > in lies tells many more lies, accusing someone of having
> > a dishonest approach. Likewise Vaj who accuses others of
> > ad-homi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> The reason Sal doesn't deal with me any more is that
> she isn't up to it. If I were her, I wouldn't be
> accusing others of lacking honor and being
> manipulators and phonies.
Sal is a bitter old fool angrily trying to bash everythin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Except its not underf
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> > >
> > > Except its not underfunded. The TMO takes care of the
> > > teraining of hte kids and the teachers.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote:
>
> On Apr 5, 2009, at 10:27 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
>
> > You have plenty of emotion that you express in your
> > positions here. Neither of us are summing up your
> > objections as stemming from a psychological problem
> > you have.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> Judy's ENTIRE position can be summed up in
> her own words below:
>
> > Trusting your experience is fine. Having an aha
> > moment in which you know you don't believe is fine.
> >
> > What's *not* fine, IMHO, is including in that aha
>
On Apr 5, 2009, at 12:43 PM, shukra69 wrote:
Here is the person who has no truth in him, when caught in lies
tells many more lies, accusing someone of having a dishonest
approach.
Likewise Vaj who accuses others of ad-hominen arguements and never
hesitates to make them.
Shameless liar.Li
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Except its not underf
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote:
> > > And I wish I had never started and my friends never
> > > started. I wish my friends had neve
Here is the person who has no truth in him, when caught in lies tells many more
lies, accusing someone of having a dishonest approach.
Likewise Vaj who accuses others of ad-hominen arguements and never hesitates to
make them.
Shameless liar.Liar and shameless.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroup
On Apr 5, 2009, at 11:20 AM, Vaj wrote:
Of course she could have some strange vitamin deficiency related to
shoe leather. ;-)
LOL
Sal
On Apr 5, 2009, at 11:45 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote:
On Apr 5, 2009, at 10:27 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
You have plenty of emotion that you express in your positions
here. Neither of us are summing up your objections as stemming
from a psychological problem you have. Is it too much to ask
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> > >
> > > I wish I had starte
On Apr 5, 2009, at 10:27 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
You have plenty of emotion that you express in your positions here.
Neither of us are summing up your objections as stemming from a
psychological problem you have. Is it too much to ask for this
courtesy in return?
In Judy's case, yes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> > >
> > > Except its not underfunded. The TMO takes care of the
> > > teraining of hte kids and the teachers.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> >
> > Except its not underfunded. The TMO takes care of the
> > teraining of hte kids and the teachers.
>
> PLEASE stop saying this.
Funny, I don't recall Lawson having said a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> >
> > I wish I had started at
> > > the start of my senior year in HS instead of a
> > > few months after t
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote:
>
> On Apr 5, 2009, at 1:57 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
>
> > Personally, I think it's fascinating that the
> > SAME people who were claiming that me asking
> > enlightened_dawn11 to provide a little proof
> > that she had ever learned TM or the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> > It's only "invasive" and "an attack" and
> > "harrassment" if an anti-TMer does it.
>
> No, it's only "invasive" and "an attack" and
> "hartassment" [sic] if there's no good
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> Personally, I think it's fascinating that the
> SAME people who were claiming that me asking
> enlightened_dawn11 to provide a little proof
> that she had ever learned TM or the siddhis
> are now "piling on" to Raunchydog's demand
> for Va
to talk of it isn't true and you know- who can be said to be making money? a
non-profit org? A non-profit does not destroy itself to fund its current
programs.Bevan's salary is known through public disclosure -it a very small
amount. I have seen the salaries of other head of non-profits- its not
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > what is f
On Apr 5, 2009, at 1:57 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
Personally, I think it's fascinating that the
SAME people who were claiming that me asking
enlightened_dawn11 to provide a little proof
that she had ever learned TM or the siddhis
are now "piling on" to Raunchydog's demand
for Vaj to do the same thin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
>
> Except its not underfunded. The TMO takes care of the
> teraining of hte kids and the teachers.
PLEASE stop saying this.
It isn't true and you know it. The TMO is not
putting a PENNY of its own money on the line.
Not only that, it's M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 wrote:
> >
> > > what is funny now is the absolute contortions the
> > > TM bashers are working themselves i
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote:
> >
> > > > Somethin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
>
> I wish I had started at
> > the start of my senior year in HS instead of a
> > few months after the end.
>
> And I wish I had never started and my friends never
> started.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> >
> > I wish I had started at
> > > the start of my senior year in HS instead of a few months after the end.
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
>
> I wish I had started at
> > the start of my senior year in HS instead of a few months after the end.
> >
> > L.
> >
>
>
> And I wish I had never started and my friends n
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
>
>
> I think the Jim chronicles are a more worthy April Fool's revelation. There
> is something so oddly funny about that.
What did I miss?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
I wish I had started at
> the start of my senior year in HS instead of a few months after the end.
>
> L.
>
And I wish I had never started and my friends never started. I wish my friends
had never become parusha or siddhas and lived liv
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> Much more interesting is, as ed11 says, how it has
> "reinvogorated" the TM critics. They haven't been so
> distraught in a long while.
>
As I explained above, my only concern is TM or any meditation or even silent
time in the school
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 wrote:
> >
> > > what is funny now is the absolute contortions the
> > > TM bashers are working themselves i
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 wrote:
> >
> > > what is funny now is the absolute contortions the TM bashers are working
> > > them
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 wrote:
>
> > what is funny now is the absolute contortions the TM bashers are working
> > themselves into, to refute and negate this massive concert that will be
> > held by
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 wrote:
>
> > what is funny now is the absolute contortions the
> > TM bashers are working themselves into, to refute
> > and negate this massive concert that will be held
> >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 wrote:
> what is funny now is the absolute contortions the TM bashers are working
> themselves into, to refute and negate this massive concert that will be held
> by some of the world's most famous musicians. one anti TM, anti Maharishi,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > More importantly, there would be no call for
> > such evidence if Vaj's presentation of what TM
> > involves were as accurate as, say, yours.
>
> Well I am a TM onl
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote:
>
>
> emptybill rules! Thank you for serving up some well deserved whoop-ass.
> Well, isn't it interesting that on April Fool's Day we get a
> twofer? Vaj, exposed as a liar and John Knapp exposed as a coward.
> Something good is happening
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote:
>
> > > Something good is happening. I never doubted
> > > Vaj was a fraud. He certainly didn't soun
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote:
> > Something good is happening. I never doubted
> > Vaj was a fraud. He certainly didn't sound
> > like he knew anything AT ALL about TM. Worse
> > yet, he claimed he w
Curtis wrote:
> Think what you like about his points, this
> challenge is absurd if he wants to keep his
> name off this forum...
>
So, why didn't you challenge Vaj?
Richard J. Williams wrote:
> You didn't say that yoga was pluralistic and
> that only the non-dual realization can produce
>
Bill wrote:
> Sorry to have to point it out but you have all
> been played for fools by Naga Vaj.
>
Richard J. Williams wrote:
> > But Vaj says you're practicing a preliminary
> > yoga that is based on a dualism. If so, then
> > 'PowerTouch Yoga' is just another pluralistic
> > yoga.
> >
Vaj w
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote:
>
> It's not surprising the TM naysayers, have lined up behind Vaj kissing
> his ass. Let see: Edg believes Vaj as an intellectual authority on
> meditation and beseeches him to explain the finer points of akasha and a
> Buddhist mediation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 wrote:
>
> yep, emptybill quietly carries a big stick, and knows how to use it.
>
> what is funny now is the absolute contortions the TM bashers are working
> themselves into, to refute and negate this massive concert that will be held
>
yep, emptybill quietly carries a big stick, and knows how to use it.
what is funny now is the absolute contortions the TM bashers are working
themselves into, to refute and negate this massive concert that will be held by
some of the world's most famous musicians. one anti TM, anti Maharishi, an
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote:
>
>
> emptybill rules! Thank you for serving up some well deserved whoop-ass.
> Well, isn't it interesting that on April Fool's Day we get a
> twofer?
I think the Jim chronicles are a more worthy April Fool's revelation. There is
somethi
emptybill rules! Thank you for serving up some well deserved whoop-ass.
Well, isn't it interesting that on April Fool's Day we get a
twofer? Vaj, exposed as a liar and John Knapp exposed as a coward.
Something good is happening. I never doubted Vaj was a fraud. He
certainly didn't sound like he kn
On Apr 2, 2009, at 4:11 AM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote:
thank you once again for proving something through your impeccable
scholarship that many of us intuitively and experientally know
about Vaj, that he lies continuously about his knowledge and
practice of TM. i hope i didn't say that too
thank you once again for proving something through your impeccable scholarship
that many of us intuitively and experientally know about Vaj, that he lies
continuously about his knowledge and practice of TM. i hope i didn't say that
too loudly and rally his 3 or 4 supporters on this forum...
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