Re: [Finale] chord symbol items

2016-01-26 Thread Haroldo Mauro
I'm very glad someone is working on it. Thanks! Harold On 24/01/2016, at 20:49, Jan Angermüller wrote: > I am working on a chord changer plug-in for Finale which allows > switching the font size including correct scaling of the offsets (see > demo at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpJa6Lf4HZA

Re: [Finale] chord symbol items

2016-01-24 Thread Christopher Smith
Wow! Looks great! I can’t wait! Christopher > On Sun Jan 24, at SundayJan 24 5:49 PM, Jan Angermüller > wrote: > > I am working on a chord changer plug-in for Finale which allows > switching the font size including correct scaling of the offsets (see > demo at https://www.youtube.com/watch?

Re: [Finale] chord symbol items

2016-01-24 Thread Barbara Touburg
On 24-1-2016 23:49, Jan Angermüller wrote: > I am working on a chord changer plug-in for Finale which allows > switching the font size including correct scaling of the offsets (see > demo athttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpJa6Lf4HZA ) as well as > changing between different chord fonts. Even symb

Re: [Finale] chord symbol items

2016-01-24 Thread Jan Angermüller
I am working on a chord changer plug-in for Finale which allows switching the font size including correct scaling of the offsets (see demo at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpJa6Lf4HZA ) as well as changing between different chord fonts. Even symbol clusters as used in JazzCord, SwingCord or R

Re: [Finale] chord symbol items

2016-01-23 Thread Haroldo Mauro
Of course! You're right about chord letters being unchangeable. On 23/01/2016, at 16:19, Christopher Smith wrote: > Yup, different libraries is the way to go. My first one took me a week, my > second took me most of the day. Huge pain. Plus, there is a long-standing bug > where if you import a

Re: [Finale] chord symbol items

2016-01-23 Thread Christopher Smith
Yup, different libraries is the way to go. My first one took me a week, my second took me most of the day. Huge pain. Plus, there is a long-standing bug where if you import a Jazz library into a Maestro document, the parentheses end up being Maestro instead of Jazz, which have a different baseli

Re: [Finale] chord symbol items

2016-01-23 Thread Haroldo Mauro
Thanks for replying. I agree it is a huge lack. I will mention it to tech support. The plugin would be a solution for me, since what I usually need is to resize changes for the whole document/instruments. To resize one or two chords once in a while would be easy just to edit the chord itself or

Re: [Finale] chord symbol items

2016-01-23 Thread Christopher Smith
No, and this is a HUGE hairy lack in the program right now. Please write tech support and complain about this. It is supposed to be something that computers do easily, yet there is no way to do it ever since chords started attaching to measures instead of items. In the past, you could attach a c

[Finale] chord symbol items

2016-01-23 Thread Haroldo Mauro
Is there a plugin, or any other way, to add space among chord symbol suffix items globally and proportionally, when increasing chord symbols size through menu Utilities->Change->Chords? These items will collide when increased by a large percentage, so the idea is that the space among these items

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol question

2014-05-17 Thread Chuck Israels
What Christopher suggests is (pretty much as always), the best way I have found to do things. It does require taking the time to create a suffix library, but once it's done - it's done. I use Bill Duncan's chord symbol and chord suffix fonts and find them attractive and flexible enough, and sl

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol question

2014-05-17 Thread Christopher Smith
Part of the problem is that there ISN'T a standardised way of writing chord symbols. For instance, CM7, depending on where you live, could mean major or minor 7, while C+7 could mean dom7(#5) or major 7. While Finale DOES have a couple of more-or-less consistent libraries included in some common

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol question

2014-05-17 Thread Craig Parmerlee
I use chord symbols on almost every project I do, and Finale drives me nuts every time. For me, the spacing is the least of my problems (although I agree spacing is not great). To me, it is a lot more basic. Every chord I want to enter, Finale doesn't seem to recognize, and it doesn't seem t

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol question

2014-05-15 Thread Simon Troup
Lol, Christopher, yes, the "Window Of Shame". -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup & Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *"If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!"* *This email is a private communication be

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol question

2014-05-15 Thread Christopher Smith
Once you get a nice library set up (with that tiny little un-resizeable edit window where the nudge buttons don't work!) it is pretty painless. I have many, many issues with the chord tool, though. Christopher On Thu May 15, at ThursdayMay 15 5:23 PM, John Roberts wrote: > Thank you both for

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol question

2014-05-15 Thread John Roberts
Thank you both for the input. I've usually used lyrics for chord symbols, using one of the Metronome fonts which mixes music symbols with texts and has a nice set of superscript numbers, but I was getting a random bug in Fin2012 where lyrics would suddenly get out of sync with their correspondi

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol question

2014-05-15 Thread Simon Troup
I think all that's required is an "Horizontal offset for chords with alterations" setting. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup & Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *"If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol question

2014-05-15 Thread Christopher Smith
I'm bugged by it. In fact the thing that bugs me most is that if you open up a bit of space to allow for the sharp, then a root WITHOUT an alteration seems to have too BIG of a gap. I created a whole set of custom suffixes, but of course Finale being what it is, they took me a very long time an

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol question

2014-05-15 Thread Simon Troup
Hi John I've often suggested offsets for such scenarios but never, until you've mentioned this, found anyone else who was bothered by Finale's lack of precision in this respect. My suffix libraries include a duplicate set of suffixes which start about 5 EVPU further to the right for those I use mo

[Finale] Chord symbol question

2014-05-15 Thread John Roberts
I'm finding that when I add a chord suffix to an altered chord, eg F#7, the suffix is too close to the # sign. It's fine with a plain chord letter name. Is there a way to add some space after the accidental? I suppose I could create a whole duplicate set of symbols with a little extra space bef

Re: [Finale] chord symbol baseline

2012-11-24 Thread J D Thomas
You don't say what version of Finale you're using, but in the last several versions the settings you are looking for are under Document Options > Chords. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Nov 24, 2012, at 6:31 PM, Ryan wrote: > Hi list, > How/where do I adjust the baseline height of a sharp (#) or fla

Re: [Finale] chord symbol baseline

2012-11-24 Thread Christopher Smith
Document Options>Chords, the first three items. It is document-specific, so you can copy the settings from some other document that you like better, rather than trial and error. Christopher On Sat Nov 24, at SaturdayNov 24 9:31 PM, Ryan wrote: > Hi list, > How/where do I adjust the baseline h

Re: [Finale] chord symbol baseline

2012-11-24 Thread Ryan
Never mind, I found it. I was staring at it all along! On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 6:31 PM, Ryan wrote: > Hi list, > How/where do I adjust the baseline height of a sharp (#) or flat (b) > alteration in a chord symbol? My template is placing those symbols too low > relative to the main chord symbol.

[Finale] chord symbol baseline

2012-11-24 Thread Ryan
Hi list, How/where do I adjust the baseline height of a sharp (#) or flat (b) alteration in a chord symbol? My template is placing those symbols too low relative to the main chord symbol. I had a hard drive crash recently. It must have somehow affected the template, however the finished documents t

Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Fonts

2012-05-31 Thread Michael Mathew
du >Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 9:29 AM >Subject: Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Fonts > >Michael, > >List protocol forbids attachements to emails, so there needs to be another way >to do this.  I'd think that Nick Carter would have something available on his >NPC Imagi

Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Fonts

2012-05-31 Thread Chuck Israels
Michael, List protocol forbids attachements to emails, so there needs to be another way to do this. I'd think that Nick Carter would have something available on his NPC Imaging site, since he is selling the fonts. Meanwhile, I will send a pdf to your email, and you are welcome to visit here i

Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Fonts

2012-05-30 Thread dershem
On 5/30/2012 4:05 AM, Steve Parker wrote: > Hi all! > > I'm having another bout of trying to sort everything that niggles me > in Finale... ;-) > > Any suggestions for chord symbol fonts/settings? > > I'm looking for something clear to use with Maestro but with a fairly > 'thick' house style (staff

Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Fonts

2012-05-30 Thread Michael Mathew
...@yahoo.com http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl http://oregonmts.com/mathew/ > > From: Chuck Israels >To: finale@shsu.edu >Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 4:08 PM >Subject: Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Fonts > >Excellent.  Nice to

Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Fonts

2012-05-30 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Bobs stuff is really great. Sent from my iSomething -- Eric Dannewitz Musician/Polymath/Evil Genius http://www.ericdannewitz.com On May 30, 2012, at 4:08 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: > Excellent. Nice to be able to be of help. > > Chuck > > > On May 30, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Steve Parker wrote: > >> T

Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Fonts

2012-05-30 Thread Chuck Israels
Excellent. Nice to be able to be of help. Chuck On May 30, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Steve Parker wrote: > Thanks Eric and Chuck! > They look great - absolutely perfect answer to what I felt was lacking in my > current copying. > > Steve P. > > On 30 May 2012, at 21:06, Chuck Israels wrote: > >>

Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Fonts

2012-05-30 Thread Steve Parker
Thanks Eric and Chuck! They look great - absolutely perfect answer to what I felt was lacking in my current copying. Steve P. On 30 May 2012, at 21:06, Chuck Israels wrote: > Yes, it is designed to look good with Maestro (though I imagine it would work > well with other roughly similar fonts

Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Fonts

2012-05-30 Thread Chuck Israels
Yes, it is designed to look good with Maestro (though I imagine it would work well with other roughly similar fonts). Bill created the articulation font symbols to include things like jazz falloffs that would look appropriate with Maestro. He spent the better part of a day in our home (when we

Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Fonts

2012-05-30 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Bills stuff is all done with maestro, at least that was the intention. His fonts look great with maestro. I use the chord , over sized time signatures and articulations fonts in all my works Sent from my iSomething -- On May 30, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Steve Parker wrote: > Hi Chuck, > > Thanks, I'l

Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Fonts

2012-05-30 Thread Steve Parker
Hi Chuck, Thanks, I'll look at these. Do you use them with a generally handwritten look or with Maestro? A PDF would be great! Thanks! Steve P. On 30 May 2012, at 15:09, Chuck Israels wrote: > Steve, > > Look at Bill Duncan's chord fonts available from Nick Carter at NPC Imaging. > > If yo

Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Fonts

2012-05-30 Thread Chuck Israels
Steve, Look at Bill Duncan's chord fonts available from Nick Carter at NPC Imaging. If you want to see samples, I can send you a pdf. Chuck On May 30, 2012, at 4:05 AM, Steve Parker wrote: > Hi all! > > I'm having another bout of trying to sort everything that niggles me in > Finale... ;-)

[Finale] Chord Symbol Fonts

2012-05-30 Thread Steve Parker
Hi all! I'm having another bout of trying to sort everything that niggles me in Finale... ;-) Any suggestions for chord symbol fonts/settings? I'm looking for something clear to use with Maestro but with a fairly 'thick' house style (staff lines 0.01). Also, I always use the triangle for a ge

[Finale] Chord symbol library woes

2011-04-26 Thread Mike Casteel
I just arrived at my hotel for an out of town gig and was doing some last minute tweaking on a couple of charts this morning. I opened my files and the chord symbol suffixes were gibberish! The fonts are right (Bill Duncan ChordSym and ChordSuf) but the library is whacked. I'm working on a new

[Finale] Chord symbol New Year

2011-01-01 Thread JClevESM
Greetings listers! I wanted to put out the word that our chord symbol fonts are available at discounted prices for the New Year: ChordSymbol 2 for $50; JazzSymbol 1 for $35; and both fonts for $75; with discounted site licenses also available. Because these fonts are available in both Unico

Re: [Finale] chord symbol extensions

2007-11-21 Thread dhbailey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi---I'll try reposting this query. I'm writing guitar parts for jazz band and am having trouble writing a chord such as D7(#5b9). When writing it the flat "b" always becomes a small "B". I don't want to write it "-9". I am using Finale 2007 and Windows XP Pro.

Re: [Finale] chord symbol extensions

2007-11-20 Thread Christopher Smith
On 20-Nov-07, at 5:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi---I'll try reposting this query. I'm writing guitar parts for jazz band and am having trouble writing a chord such as D7(#5b9). When writing it the flat "b" always becomes a small "B". I don't want to write it "-9". I am using Final

[Finale] chord symbol extensions

2007-11-20 Thread Britrpt
Hi---I'll try reposting this query. I'm writing guitar parts for jazz band and am having trouble writing a chord such as D7(#5b9). When writing it the flat "b" always becomes a small "B". I don't want to write it "-9". I am using Finale 2007 and Windows XP Pro. *

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts

2007-04-07 Thread George Ports
Thanks Eric. I'll try that. George - Original Message - From: "Eric Dannewitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts Easy way to do this would be to save your Chords in a Library file, load the

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts

2007-04-06 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Easy way to do this would be to save your Chords in a Library file, load them into your Jazz Font Default file. When you start a new project, you'll have all your custom chords in there. You can also use the library in existing documents. Load the old document, load the chords, go to the chord

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts

2007-04-06 Thread George Ports
l 05, 2007 8:24 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts On 5-Apr-07, at 9:56 AM, George Ports wrote: How can I set the suffix fonts in chord symbols to show a flat to look like b instead of b? Is there an easy way to do the same when describing a note such as: this note is a b5? I'

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts

2007-04-06 Thread Chuck Israels
On Apr 6, 2007, at 12:28 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Very true. I got asked last night about the rehearsal font on a chart I brought in. I was like "umwellit's complicated, I'll let you know about the status." Which is what by the way? Nick and Vince arewhom? Nick Carter and Vi

RE: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts

2007-04-06 Thread Richard Willis
inale] Chord symbol fonts Very true. I got asked last night about the rehearsal font on a chart I brought in. I was like "umwellit's complicated, I'll let you know about the status." Which is what by the way? Nick and Vince arewhom? It would be absolutely grea

Re(2): [Finale] Chord symbol fonts

2007-04-06 Thread Leigh Daniels
I'd rather see non-MM ownership of Bill's stuff. Ideally, it would be someone like Bill who is a professional copyist who would use the stuff, improve the stuff and be available to customers in the way that Bill was. But if it comes down to MM or no one, I'll take MM. **Leigh On Fri, Apr 6, 2007

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts

2007-04-06 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Very true. I got asked last night about the rehearsal font on a chart I brought in. I was like "umwellit's complicated, I'll let you know about the status." Which is what by the way? Nick and Vince arewhom? It would be absolutely great to see MakeMusic buy up Bill's stuff and incl

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts

2007-04-05 Thread Chuck Israels
Indeed, this has been a bugaboo for years, and only constant carping and complaining will get MM's attention. The available defense for advanced jazz chord symbol users is to spend time (a lot of time, unfortunately) creating the chord suffixes you like, saving them as a library and then lo

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts

2007-04-05 Thread Christopher Smith
On 5-Apr-07, at 11:39 AM, Mike Greensill wrote: Why isn't there a direct link to the Chord Suffix editor? Just what I've been asking since about Finale 97. Especially when you get the message "Could not find the suffix. Do you want to create it?" and then you DON'T get the Chord Suffix se

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts

2007-04-05 Thread Mike Greensill
Why isn't there a direct link to the Chord Suffix editor? Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts

2007-04-05 Thread Christopher Smith
On 5-Apr-07, at 9:56 AM, George Ports wrote: How can I set the suffix fonts in chord symbols to show a flat to look like b instead of b? Is there an easy way to do the same when describing a note such as: this note is a b5? I'm using Times new roman for the text (in general). Is there a w

[Finale] Chord symbol fonts

2007-04-05 Thread George Ports
How can I set the suffix fonts in chord symbols to show a flat to look like b instead of b? Is there an easy way to do the same when describing a note such as: this note is a b5? I'm using Times new roman for the text (in general). Is there a way to change all that I've done so farglobally

Re(2): [Finale] Chord Symbol Transposition

2006-08-18 Thread Leigh Daniels
Yay! Thanks, Christopher! I love this list! **Leigh On Fri, Aug 18, 2006, Christopher Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Good news! > >Mass Edit>Change...Chord assignments>Transpose > >will do what you need. Select the area first, obviously. > >BTW, anyone using Chromatic Transposition (no key si

Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Transposition

2006-08-18 Thread Christopher Smith
Good news! Mass Edit>Change...Chord assignments>Transpose will do what you need. Select the area first, obviously. BTW, anyone using Chromatic Transposition (no key sig on transposed parts) with chord symbols will have to manually transpose the chords on the transposed staves using this met

Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Transposition

2006-08-18 Thread Leigh Daniels
Forgot to say FinMac2007! On Fri, Aug 18, 2006, Leigh Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hello Group, > >I just entered the chord symbols for a long piece and then realized that >I'd forgotten to enter the key signature. Of course when I did, the >chord symbols changed to reflect the new key. >

[Finale] Chord Symbol Transposition

2006-08-18 Thread Leigh Daniels
Hello Group, I just entered the chord symbols for a long piece and then realized that I'd forgotten to enter the key signature. Of course when I did, the chord symbols changed to reflect the new key. I'm afraid the answer is that I'll have to re-enter the chord symbols, but I wanted to ask here f

Re: Re(4): [Finale] Chord Symbol Polychord Spacing Question

2006-05-08 Thread Bill
ay 08, 2006 6:36 AM Subject: Re: Re(4): [Finale] Chord Symbol Polychord Spacing Question - Original Message - From: "Leigh Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Finale List" Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 2:18 PM Subject: Re(4): [Finale] Chord Symbol Polychord Spaci

Re: Re(4): [Finale] Chord Symbol Polychord Spacing Question

2006-05-08 Thread themark
- Original Message - From: "Leigh Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Finale List" Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 2:18 PM Subject: Re(4): [Finale] Chord Symbol Polychord Spacing Question > It's on p. 53 of the Finale Productivity manual that Bill Dun

Re(4): [Finale] Chord Symbol Polychord Spacing Question

2006-05-08 Thread Leigh Daniels
It's on p. 53 of the Finale Productivity manual that Bill Duncan sends with his great package. **Leigh On Mon, May 8, 2006, themark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Thanks, Darcy! It's right there on p. 53. I'd forgotten there was a >> special way to do them. I'm happy now! >> >> **Leigh > >Page 53

Re: Re(2): [Finale] Chord Symbol Polychord Spacing Question

2006-05-08 Thread themark
- Original Message - From: "Leigh Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Finale List" Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 2:20 AM Subject: Re(2): [Finale] Chord Symbol Polychord Spacing Question > Thanks, Darcy! It's right there on p. 53. I'd forgotten th

Re(2): [Finale] Chord Symbol Polychord Spacing Question

2006-05-06 Thread Leigh Daniels
Thanks, Darcy! It's right there on p. 53. I'd forgotten there was a special way to do them. I'm happy now! **Leigh On Sat, May 6, 2006, Darcy James Argue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Consult Bill's excellent PDF documentation on the use of ChordSuf, >ChordSym, and ChordSymSubtext -- it's all ex

Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Polychord Spacing Question

2006-05-06 Thread Darcy James Argue
Consult Bill's excellent PDF documentation on the use of ChordSuf, ChordSym, and ChordSymSubtext -- it's all explained therein. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com Brooklyn, NY On 06 May 2006, at 4:43 PM, Leigh Daniels wrote: Hello Group, In FinMac2006d, I'm t

[Finale] Chord Symbol Polychord Spacing Question

2006-05-06 Thread Leigh Daniels
Hello Group, In FinMac2006d, I'm trying to enter some chord symbols for polychords such as a B major triad over an A major triad. If I enter B_A, I get the correct horizontal line between B and A. The problem is that the lower letter is about 3 times too far below the horizontal line. Where do I

Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Question

2006-04-29 Thread Christopher Smith
On Apr 28, 2006, at 7:40 PM, Jacki Barineau wrote: On Apr 28, 2006, at 7:28 PM, ThomaStudios wrote: Always put the highest altered extension on top, and go down in order. IOW: #9 #5 in one ( ) Thanks a bunch for the clarification! Now the question is - how do I DO this in Finale?! I

Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Question

2006-04-28 Thread Jacki Barineau
On Apr 28, 2006, at 9:06 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: When you have selected one, there'll be a place to select "duplicate." Do this so that you are working with a copy of the original, and the original will remain untouched, in case you need it later. Then select the duplicate and find the

Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Question

2006-04-28 Thread Chuck Israels
Dear Jacki, It's been a while since I used Finale's chord suffix editor, since I use a special chord font, but here's what I think will work: Click on the note to which you want to attach the chord (with the chord tool and "manual input" selected). A window will open with a place to sele

Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Question

2006-04-28 Thread ThomaStudios
You will have to go into the chord suffix library and set it up. It's a bit tedious and convoluted in Finale, but the good news is, you only have to do it once. Just save your library when finished. HTH. J.D. Thomas ThomaStudios On Apr 28, 2006, at 4:40 PM, Jacki Barineau wrote: On Ap

Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Question

2006-04-28 Thread Jacki Barineau
On Apr 28, 2006, at 7:28 PM, ThomaStudios wrote: Always put the highest altered extension on top, and go down in order. IOW: #9 #5 in one ( ) Thanks a bunch for the clarification! Now the question is - how do I DO this in Finale?! I mean - how do I make it put these 2 intervals in

Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Question

2006-04-28 Thread ThomaStudios
Always put the highest altered extension on top, and go down in order. IOW: #9 #5 in one ( ) *** J D Thomas ThomaStudios West Linn OR 97068 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thomastudios.com *** On Apr 28, 2006, at 3:30 PM, Jacki Barineau wrote: Hi

[Finale] Chord Symbol Question

2006-04-28 Thread Jacki Barineau
Hi, Everyone - I have a song with lots of "jazz chords" that I've never used before and need some help in how to display them properly! For example, a G7 (#5, #9) - how can I make it display with the #5 then the #9 underneath? Like this: G7(#5 #9) (except with only 1 set of parenth

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol transposition bug still not fixed in Finale 2006

2005-08-04 Thread Andrew Stiller
Chuck Israels / 2005/08/03 / 03:33 PM wrote: Why do you need to do this? What's the advantage of chromatic transposition over key signature transposition? Is this something you do when you want both score and parts to be "non key related" - no key signature on either? I can certainly unders

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol transposition bug still not fixed in Finale 2006

2005-08-03 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hello Finale gang, I'm asking a favor. Could everyone I've helped with GPO stuff (or any other notation issue) please email <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> or <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, quote my original message, and tell them that you, too, would like this Chord symbol transposition bug fixed? Thanks ver

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol transposition bug still not fixed in Finale 2006

2005-08-03 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 03 Aug 2005, at 3:33 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: On Aug 3, 2005, at 12:00 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: 6) Now, using the Staff Tool, double-click the staff. This launches the Staff Attributes dialog box. Click the "Select" box next to "Transposition." Change the transposition method f

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol transposition bug still not fixed in Finale 2006

2005-08-03 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Chuck Israels / 2005/08/03 / 03:33 PM wrote: >Why do you need to do this? What's the advantage of chromatic >transposition over key signature transposition? Is this something >you do when you want both score and parts to be "non key related" - >no key signature on either? I can certainly

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol transposition bug still not fixed in Finale 2006

2005-08-03 Thread Chuck Israels
On Aug 3, 2005, at 12:00 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:6) Now, using the Staff Tool, double-click the staff.  This launches the Staff Attributes dialog box.  Click the "Select" box next to "Transposition."  Change the transposition method from Key Signature to Chromatic. Hi Darcy,Why do you need to d

[Finale] Chord symbol transposition bug still not fixed in Finale 2006

2005-08-03 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hello, I'm writing to say how incredibly disappointed I am that a major bug involving chord symbols attached to staves set to Chromatic Transposition has still not been corrected in Finale 2006. There are many serious problems with Finale's implementation of chord symbols, but this is by

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol

2005-03-06 Thread laloba2
Hi Roger, I also write polychords the way you are describing when I want to be very specific about which upper structure is being used on a chord. Here's how I do it. I've written on the list before about using layer four for my chords in order to be able to easily cut and paste them into othe

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol

2005-03-05 Thread Roger Julià Satorra
Hi Darcy, thanks for your advice. In my own compositions I always write the piano part. I'm specially attracted by modal harmony and polychords, so I'd rather write all the piano part in stead of hoping that the pianist will understand the nomenclature! Besides writing that, I also add the chords

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol

2005-03-05 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi John, The *notation* for compound chords isn't confusing, and your suggestion: C chord    - Bb7 chord is both redundant *and* confusing. It's only the fact that Roger's particular compound chord is functionally equivalent to a standard chord (and is better written as a standard cho

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol

2005-03-05 Thread John Howell
Title: Re: [Finale] Chord symbol At 5:45 PM +0100 3/5/05, Roger =?UNKNOWN?Q?Juli=E0?= Satorra wrote: No, what I want is a Bb7 (9, +11, 13), it's easier to write C/Bb7, but not by finale! You've had some great advice, and what you want to write is, in fact, non-standard and confusi

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol

2005-03-05 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 5, 2005, at 11:45 AM, Roger Julià Satorra wrote: No, what I want is a Bb7 (9, +11, 13), it's easier to write C/Bb7, but not by finale! Roger Darcy gave you good advice about getting what you want on paper. I would gently suggest that while C Bb7 might be easier for you, it might be ha

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol

2005-03-05 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Roger, While I agree that Finale should have support for compound chords (and listed a few workarounds in previous posts), I can assure you that you that when most piano players see Bb13(#11), the voicing they will play is very likely to be a C triad over a Bb7 chord. In other words, I don'

Re(2): [Finale] Chord symbol

2005-03-05 Thread Leigh Daniels
I'll second this recommendation. If you are doing much of this kind of music, Bill's Finale Productivity package is the way to go. It's saved me huge amounts of time and frustration and is well worth the $150 for the whole pack. At least check it out at

Re: Re: [Finale] Chord symbol

2005-03-05 Thread Roger Julià Satorra
-- Darcy James Argue<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1) Enter two separate chords on the same beat -- "C" and > "Bb7" -- > manually drag the "C" up, and draw a horizontal line > between them. > (There many options for this -- if you're not picky about > the > appearance, probably the easiest thin

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol

2005-03-05 Thread Darcy James Argue
Oh, wait, I forgot one (actually not a bad option at all): 4) Enter the chord as: C --- Bb Then, on the same beat, enter just the chord suffix (the "7"), and drag it into position. That's probably the best solution outside of buying the Bill Duncan font (which I actually highly recommend.) - Da

Re: Re: [Finale] Chord symbol

2005-03-05 Thread Roger Julià Satorra
Yes, that's exactly what I mean. I know Bb13 (#11) would be appropriate, but specially when writing for big band, the piano part should be written C --- Bb7 I guess it's something that MUST be corrected by finale. I'm curious about how Sibelius deals with it. I'll ask arround, jazz people prefer

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol

2005-03-05 Thread Darcy James Argue
Okay, there have been some confused responses here. What Roger wants to do is create a compound chord, also known as a polychord. Compound chords are extremely common in jazz, but Finale doesn't directly support them, which has been a longstanding source of frustration for jazz musicians usin

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol

2005-03-05 Thread Kurt Gnos
Roger, /X is only for a bass note, as in Bb/C (Bb over C = Csus). Do you mean: C    ? Bb7 Then a Bb13 (#11) should be appropriate. Kurt At 17:22 05.03.2005, you wrote: Hello, How can I write a chord such as C/Bb7 ? When doing so, finale removes the 7 of the Bb. Thanks, Roger __

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol

2005-03-05 Thread Jim Williamson
That seems to be a problem with Finale. When ever I have polychords that I can't teach Finale (such as C7/Bb7 or C/Bb7), I write it in Score Ex. JIm - Original Message - From: "John Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 10:37 AM Subjec

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol

2005-03-05 Thread tim-cates
ra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 11:22 AM Subject: [Finale] Chord symbol Hello, How can I write a chord such as C/Bb7 ? When doing so, finale removes the 7 of the Bb. Thanks, Roger ___ Finale mailing list Final

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol

2005-03-05 Thread Roger Julià Satorra
gt; > - Original Message - > From: "Roger Julià Satorra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 11:22 AM > Subject: [Finale] Chord symbol > > > > Hello, > > > > How can I write a chord such as C/Bb7 ?

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol

2005-03-05 Thread John Howell
At 5:22 PM +0100 3/5/05, Roger =?UNKNOWN?Q?Juli=E0?= Satorra wrote: Hello, How can I write a chord such as C/Bb7 ? When doing so, finale removes the 7 of the Bb. I that a polychord (i.e. C major triad over Bb7 chord)? The program is obviously reading it as C major over a Bb bass note. (You could

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol

2005-03-05 Thread Guy Hayden
Your chord is written incorrectly. If you want a Bb7 over a C bass then you must reverse the order to Bb7/C Guy Hayden - Original Message - From: "Roger Julià Satorra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 11:22 AM Subject: [Finale] Chord symbol

[Finale] Chord symbol

2005-03-05 Thread Roger Julià Satorra
Hello, How can I write a chord such as C/Bb7 ? When doing so, finale removes the 7 of the Bb. Thanks, Roger ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale