I'm very glad someone is working on it. Thanks!
Harold
On 24/01/2016, at 20:49, Jan Angermüller wrote:
> I am working on a chord changer plug-in for Finale which allows
> switching the font size including correct scaling of the offsets (see
> demo at
Wow! Looks great! I can’t wait!
Christopher
> On Sun Jan 24, at SundayJan 24 5:49 PM, Jan Angermüller
> wrote:
>
> I am working on a chord changer plug-in for Finale which allows
> switching the font size including correct scaling of the offsets (see
> demo at
I am working on a chord changer plug-in for Finale which allows
switching the font size including correct scaling of the offsets (see
demo at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpJa6Lf4HZA ) as well as
changing between different chord fonts. Even symbol clusters as used in
JazzCord, SwingCord or
On 24-1-2016 23:49, Jan Angermüller wrote:
> I am working on a chord changer plug-in for Finale which allows
> switching the font size including correct scaling of the offsets (see
> demo athttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpJa6Lf4HZA ) as well as
> changing between different chord fonts. Even
Is there a plugin, or any other way, to add space among chord symbol suffix
items globally and proportionally, when increasing chord symbols size through
menu Utilities->Change->Chords? These items will collide when increased by a
large percentage, so the idea is that the space among these
No, and this is a HUGE hairy lack in the program right now. Please write tech
support and complain about this. It is supposed to be something that computers
do easily, yet there is no way to do it ever since chords started attaching to
measures instead of items. In the past, you could attach a
Yup, different libraries is the way to go. My first one took me a week, my
second took me most of the day. Huge pain. Plus, there is a long-standing bug
where if you import a Jazz library into a Maestro document, the parentheses end
up being Maestro instead of Jazz, which have a different
Of course! You're right about chord letters being unchangeable.
On 23/01/2016, at 16:19, Christopher Smith wrote:
> Yup, different libraries is the way to go. My first one took me a week, my
> second took me most of the day. Huge pain. Plus, there is a long-standing bug
> where if you import
Thanks for replying. I agree it is a huge lack. I will mention it to tech
support. The plugin would be a solution for me, since what I usually need is to
resize changes for the whole document/instruments. To resize one or two chords
once in a while would be easy just to edit the chord itself or
I use chord symbols on almost every project I do, and Finale drives me
nuts every time. For me, the spacing is the least of my problems
(although I agree spacing is not great). To me, it is a lot more
basic. Every chord I want to enter, Finale doesn't seem to recognize,
and it doesn't seem
Part of the problem is that there ISN'T a standardised way of writing chord
symbols. For instance, CM7, depending on where you live, could mean major or
minor 7, while C+7 could mean dom7(#5) or major 7. While Finale DOES have a
couple of more-or-less consistent libraries included in some
What Christopher suggests is (pretty much as always), the best way I have found
to do things. It does require taking the time to create a suffix library, but
once it's done - it's done. I use Bill Duncan's chord symbol and chord suffix
fonts and find them attractive and flexible enough, and
I'm finding that when I add a chord suffix to an altered chord, eg F#7,
the suffix is too close to the # sign. It's fine with a plain chord
letter name. Is there a way to add some space after the accidental? I
suppose I could create a whole duplicate set of symbols with a little
extra space
Hi John
I've often suggested offsets for such scenarios but never, until you've
mentioned this, found anyone else who was bothered by Finale's lack of
precision in this respect. My suffix libraries include a duplicate set of
suffixes which start about 5 EVPU further to the right for those I use
I'm bugged by it. In fact the thing that bugs me most is that if you open up a
bit of space to allow for the sharp, then a root WITHOUT an alteration seems to
have too BIG of a gap.
I created a whole set of custom suffixes, but of course Finale being what it
is, they took me a very long time
I think all that's required is an Horizontal offset for chords with
alterations setting.
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Thank you both for the input. I've usually used lyrics for chord
symbols, using one of the Metronome fonts which mixes music symbols with
texts and has a nice set of superscript numbers, but I was getting a
random bug in Fin2012 where lyrics would suddenly get out of sync with
their
Once you get a nice library set up (with that tiny little un-resizeable edit
window where the nudge buttons don't work!) it is pretty painless. I have many,
many issues with the chord tool, though.
Christopher
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Thank you both for
Lol, Christopher, yes, the Window Of Shame.
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Michael,
List protocol forbids attachements to emails, so there needs to be another way
to do this. I'd think that Nick Carter would have something available on his
NPC Imaging site, since he is selling the fonts. Meanwhile, I will send a pdf
to your email, and you are welcome to visit here
@shsu.edu
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Fonts
Michael,
List protocol forbids attachements to emails, so there needs to be another way
to do this. I'd think that Nick Carter would have something available on his
NPC Imaging site, since he is selling
Hi all!
I'm having another bout of trying to sort everything that niggles me in
Finale... ;-)
Any suggestions for chord symbol fonts/settings?
I'm looking for something clear to use with Maestro but with a fairly 'thick'
house style (staff lines 0.01).
Also, I always use the triangle for a
Hi Chuck,
Thanks, I'll look at these. Do you use them with a generally handwritten look
or with Maestro?
A PDF would be great!
Thanks!
Steve P.
On 30 May 2012, at 15:09, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote:
Steve,
Look at Bill Duncan's chord fonts available from Nick Carter at NPC
Bills stuff is all done with maestro, at least that was the intention.
His fonts look great with maestro. I use the chord , over sized time
signatures and articulations fonts in all my works
Sent from my iSomething
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On May 30, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Steve Parker st...@pinkrat.co.uk wrote:
Hi
Yes, it is designed to look good with Maestro (though I imagine it would work
well with other roughly similar fonts). Bill created the articulation font
symbols to include things like jazz falloffs that would look appropriate with
Maestro. He spent the better part of a day in our home (when
Thanks Eric and Chuck!
They look great - absolutely perfect answer to what I felt was lacking in my
current copying.
Steve P.
On 30 May 2012, at 21:06, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote:
Yes, it is designed to look good with Maestro (though I imagine it would work
well with other
Excellent. Nice to be able to be of help.
Chuck
On May 30, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Steve Parker wrote:
Thanks Eric and Chuck!
They look great - absolutely perfect answer to what I felt was lacking in my
current copying.
Steve P.
On 30 May 2012, at 21:06, Chuck Israels
Bobs stuff is really great.
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On May 30, 2012, at 4:08 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote:
Excellent. Nice to be able to be of help.
Chuck
On May 30, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Steve
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From: Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net
To: finale@shsu.edu
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Fonts
Excellent. Nice to be able
On 5/30/2012 4:05 AM, Steve Parker wrote:
Hi all!
I'm having another bout of trying to sort everything that niggles me
in Finale... ;-)
Any suggestions for chord symbol fonts/settings?
I'm looking for something clear to use with Maestro but with a fairly
'thick' house style (staff lines
I just arrived at my hotel for an out of town gig and was doing some last
minute tweaking on a couple of charts this morning. I opened my files and the
chord symbol suffixes were gibberish! The fonts are right (Bill Duncan ChordSym
and ChordSuf) but the library is whacked.
I'm working on a new
Greetings listers! I wanted to put out the word that our chord symbol fonts
are available at discounted prices for the New Year: ChordSymbol 2 for
$50; JazzSymbol 1 for $35; and both fonts for $75; with discounted site
licenses also available.
Because these fonts are available in both
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi---I'll try reposting this query.
I'm writing guitar parts for jazz band and am having trouble writing a chord
such as D7(#5b9). When writing it the flat b always becomes a small B.
I don't want to write it -9.
I am using Finale 2007 and Windows XP Pro.
Hi---I'll try reposting this query.
I'm writing guitar parts for jazz band and am having trouble writing a chord
such as D7(#5b9). When writing it the flat b always becomes a small B.
I don't want to write it -9.
I am using Finale 2007 and Windows XP Pro.
On 20-Nov-07, at 5:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi---I'll try reposting this query.
I'm writing guitar parts for jazz band and am having trouble
writing a chord
such as D7(#5b9). When writing it the flat b always becomes a
small B.
I don't want to write it -9.
I am using Finale
Thanks Eric. I'll try that.
George
- Original Message -
From: Eric Dannewitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: finale@shsu.edu
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts
Easy way to do this would be to save your Chords in a Library file, load
them into your
Very true. I got asked last night about the rehearsal font on a chart I
brought in. I was like umwellit's complicated, I'll let you
know about the status.
Which is what by the way? Nick and Vince arewhom?
It would be absolutely great to see MakeMusic buy up Bill's stuff and
I'd rather see non-MM ownership of Bill's stuff. Ideally, it would be
someone like Bill who is a professional copyist who would use the stuff,
improve the stuff and be available to customers in the way that Bill was.
But if it comes down to MM or no one, I'll take MM.
**Leigh
On Fri, Apr 6,
] Chord symbol fonts
Very true. I got asked last night about the rehearsal font on a chart I
brought in. I was like umwellit's complicated, I'll let you know
about the status.
Which is what by the way? Nick and Vince arewhom?
It would be absolutely great to see MakeMusic buy up Bill's
On Apr 6, 2007, at 12:28 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
Very true. I got asked last night about the rehearsal font on a
chart I brought in. I was like umwellit's complicated,
I'll let you know about the status.
Which is what by the way? Nick and Vince arewhom?
Nick Carter and
AM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts
On 5-Apr-07, at 9:56 AM, George Ports wrote:
How can I set the suffix fonts in chord symbols to show a flat to look
like b instead of b? Is there an easy way to do the same when
describing a note such as: this note is a b5?
I'm using Times new
Easy way to do this would be to save your Chords in a Library file, load
them into your Jazz Font Default file. When you start a new project,
you'll have all your custom chords in there.
You can also use the library in existing documents. Load the old
document, load the chords, go to the
How can I set the suffix fonts in chord symbols to show a flat to look like b
instead of b? Is there an easy way to do the same when describing a note such
as: this note is a b5?
I'm using Times new roman for the text (in general).
Is there a way to change all that I've done so
On 5-Apr-07, at 9:56 AM, George Ports wrote:
How can I set the suffix fonts in chord symbols to show a flat to
look like b instead of b? Is there an easy way to do the same when
describing a note such as: this note is a b5?
I'm using Times new roman for the text (in general).
Is there a
Why isn't there a direct link to the Chord Suffix editor?
Mike Greensill
www.mikegreensill.com
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On 5-Apr-07, at 11:39 AM, Mike Greensill wrote:
Why isn't there a direct link to the Chord Suffix editor?
Just what I've been asking since about Finale 97. Especially when you
get the message Could not find the suffix. Do you want to create
it? and then you DON'T get the Chord Suffix
Indeed, this has been a bugaboo for years, and only constant carping
and complaining will get MM's attention.
The available defense for advanced jazz chord symbol users is to
spend time (a lot of time, unfortunately) creating the chord suffixes
you like, saving them as a library and then
Hello Group,
I just entered the chord symbols for a long piece and then realized that
I'd forgotten to enter the key signature. Of course when I did, the
chord symbols changed to reflect the new key.
I'm afraid the answer is that I'll have to re-enter the chord symbols,
but I wanted to ask here
Forgot to say FinMac2007!
On Fri, Aug 18, 2006, Leigh Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Group,
I just entered the chord symbols for a long piece and then realized that
I'd forgotten to enter the key signature. Of course when I did, the
chord symbols changed to reflect the new key.
I'm
Good news!
Mass EditChange...Chord assignmentsTranspose
will do what you need. Select the area first, obviously.
BTW, anyone using Chromatic Transposition (no key sig on transposed
parts) with chord symbols will have to manually transpose the chords
on the transposed staves using this
Yay! Thanks, Christopher! I love this list!
**Leigh
On Fri, Aug 18, 2006, Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Good news!
Mass EditChange...Chord assignmentsTranspose
will do what you need. Select the area first, obviously.
BTW, anyone using Chromatic Transposition (no key sig on
- Original Message -
From: Leigh Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Finale List finale@shsu.edu
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 2:20 AM
Subject: Re(2): [Finale] Chord Symbol Polychord Spacing Question
Thanks, Darcy! It's right there on p. 53. I'd forgotten there was a
special way to do them
It's on p. 53 of the Finale Productivity manual that Bill Duncan sends
with his great package.
**Leigh
On Mon, May 8, 2006, themark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks, Darcy! It's right there on p. 53. I'd forgotten there was a
special way to do them. I'm happy now!
**Leigh
Page 53? Are we
- Original Message -
From: Leigh Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Finale List finale@shsu.edu
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 2:18 PM
Subject: Re(4): [Finale] Chord Symbol Polychord Spacing Question
It's on p. 53 of the Finale Productivity manual that Bill Duncan sends
with his great package
, 2006 6:36 AM
Subject: Re: Re(4): [Finale] Chord Symbol Polychord Spacing Question
- Original Message -
From: Leigh Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Finale List finale@shsu.edu
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 2:18 PM
Subject: Re(4): [Finale] Chord Symbol Polychord Spacing Question
It's on p
Hello Group,
In FinMac2006d, I'm trying to enter some chord symbols for polychords
such as a B major triad over an A major triad. If I enter B_A, I get the
correct horizontal line between B and A. The problem is that the lower
letter is about 3 times too far below the horizontal line.
Where do
Consult Bill's excellent PDF documentation on the use of ChordSuf,
ChordSym, and ChordSymSubtext -- it's all explained therein.
- Darcy
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On 06 May 2006, at 4:43 PM, Leigh Daniels wrote:
Hello Group,
In FinMac2006d, I'm
Thanks, Darcy! It's right there on p. 53. I'd forgotten there was a
special way to do them. I'm happy now!
**Leigh
On Sat, May 6, 2006, Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Consult Bill's excellent PDF documentation on the use of ChordSuf,
ChordSym, and ChordSymSubtext -- it's all
On Apr 28, 2006, at 7:40 PM, Jacki Barineau wrote:
On Apr 28, 2006, at 7:28 PM, ThomaStudios wrote:
Always put the highest altered extension on top, and go down in
order. IOW:
#9
#5
in one ( )
Thanks a bunch for the clarification! Now the question is - how do I
DO this in Finale?!
Hi, Everyone - I have a song with lots of jazz chords that I've
never used before and need some help in how to display them
properly! For example, a G7 (#5, #9) - how can I make it display
with the #5 then the #9 underneath? Like this:
G7(#5
#9)
(except with only 1 set of
Always put the highest altered extension on top, and go down in
order. IOW:
#9
#5
in one ( )
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On Apr 28, 2006, at 3:30 PM, Jacki Barineau wrote:
On Apr 28, 2006, at 7:28 PM, ThomaStudios wrote:
Always put the highest altered extension on top, and go down in
order. IOW:
#9
#5
in one ( )
Thanks a bunch for the clarification! Now the question is - how do I
DO this in Finale?! I mean - how do I make it put these 2 intervals
in
You will have to go into the chord suffix library and set it up.
It's a bit tedious and convoluted in Finale, but the good news is,
you only have to do it once. Just save your library when finished.
HTH.
J.D. Thomas
ThomaStudios
On Apr 28, 2006, at 4:40 PM, Jacki Barineau wrote:
On
Dear Jacki,
It's been a while since I used Finale's chord suffix editor, since I
use a special chord font, but here's what I think will work:
Click on the note to which you want to attach the chord (with the
chord tool and manual input selected). A window will open with a
place to
Chuck Israels / 2005/08/03 / 03:33 PM wrote:
Why do you need to do this? What's the advantage of chromatic
transposition over key signature transposition? Is this something
you do when you want both score and parts to be non key related -
no key signature on either? I can certainly
Chuck Israels / 2005/08/03 / 03:33 PM wrote:
Why do you need to do this? What's the advantage of chromatic
transposition over key signature transposition? Is this something
you do when you want both score and parts to be non key related -
no key signature on either? I can certainly
On 03 Aug 2005, at 3:33 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:
On Aug 3, 2005, at 12:00 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
6) Now, using the Staff Tool, double-click the staff. This
launches the Staff Attributes dialog box. Click the Select box
next to Transposition. Change the transposition method from
Hello Finale gang,
I'm asking a favor. Could everyone I've helped with GPO stuff (or
any other notation issue) please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
[EMAIL PROTECTED], quote my original message, and tell them
that you, too, would like this Chord symbol transposition bug fixed?
Thanks very
Hi Roger,
I also write polychords the way you are describing when I want to be
very specific about which upper structure is being used on a chord.
Here's how I do it. I've written on the list before about using
layer four for my chords in order to be able to easily cut and paste
them into
Hello,
How can I write a chord such as C/Bb7 ? When doing so, finale removes the 7
of the Bb.
Thanks,
Roger
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Your chord is written incorrectly. If you want a Bb7 over a C bass then you
must reverse the order to Bb7/C
Guy Hayden
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From: Roger Julià Satorra [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: finale@shsu.edu
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 11:22 AM
Subject: [Finale] Chord symbol
Hello
At 5:22 PM +0100 3/5/05, Roger =?UNKNOWN?Q?Juli=E0?= Satorra wrote:
Hello,
How can I write a chord such as C/Bb7 ? When doing so, finale removes the 7
of the Bb.
I that a polychord (i.e. C major triad over Bb7 chord)? The program
is obviously reading it as C major over a Bb bass note. (You
: Roger Julià Satorra [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: finale@shsu.edu
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 11:22 AM
Subject: [Finale] Chord symbol
Hello,
How can I write a chord such as C/Bb7 ? When doing so,
finale removes the
7
of the Bb.
Thanks,
Roger
]
To: finale@shsu.edu
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 11:22 AM
Subject: [Finale] Chord symbol
Hello,
How can I write a chord such as C/Bb7 ? When doing so,
finale removes the
7
of the Bb.
Thanks,
Roger
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] Chord symbol
At 5:22 PM +0100 3/5/05, Roger =?UNKNOWN?Q?Juli=E0?= Satorra wrote:
Hello,
How can I write a chord such as C/Bb7 ? When doing so, finale removes the
7
of the Bb.
I that a polychord (i.e. C major triad over Bb7 chord)? The program
is obviously reading it as C major over a Bb
Roger,
/X is only for a bass note, as in Bb/C (Bb over C = Csus). Do you
mean:
C ?
Bb7
Then a Bb13 (#11) should be appropriate.
Kurt
At 17:22 05.03.2005, you wrote:
Hello,
How can I write a chord such as C/Bb7 ? When doing so, finale removes the
7
of the Bb.
Thanks,
Roger
Okay, there have been some confused responses here. What Roger wants
to do is create a compound chord, also known as a polychord. Compound
chords are extremely common in jazz, but Finale doesn't directly
support them, which has been a longstanding source of frustration for
jazz musicians
Yes, that's exactly what I mean. I know Bb13 (#11) would be appropriate, but
specially when writing for big band, the piano part should be written
C
---
Bb7
I guess it's something that MUST be corrected by finale. I'm curious about
how Sibelius deals with it. I'll ask arround, jazz people
Oh, wait, I forgot one (actually not a bad option at all):
4) Enter the chord as:
C
---
Bb
Then, on the same beat, enter just the chord suffix (the 7), and drag
it into position.
That's probably the best solution outside of buying the Bill Duncan
font (which I actually highly recommend.)
-
-- Darcy James Argue[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1) Enter two separate chords on the same beat -- C and
Bb7 --
manually drag the C up, and draw a horizontal line
between them.
(There many options for this -- if you're not picky about
the
appearance, probably the easiest thing is to just
I'll second this recommendation. If you are doing much of this kind of
music, Bill's Finale Productivity package is the way to go. It's saved me
huge amounts of time and frustration and is well worth the $150 for the
whole pack. At least check it out at
Hi Roger,
While I agree that Finale should have support for compound chords (and
listed a few workarounds in previous posts), I can assure you that you
that when most piano players see Bb13(#11), the voicing they will play
is very likely to be a C triad over a Bb7 chord. In other words, I
On Mar 5, 2005, at 11:45 AM, Roger Julià Satorra wrote:
No, what I want is a Bb7 (9, +11, 13), it's easier to write C/Bb7, but not by
finale!
Roger
Darcy gave you good advice about getting what you want on paper. I would gently suggest that while
C
Bb7
might be easier for you, it might be
Title: Re: [Finale] Chord symbol
At 5:45 PM +0100 3/5/05, Roger =?UNKNOWN?Q?Juli=E0?= Satorra
wrote:
No, what I want is a Bb7 (9, +11, 13),
it's easier to write C/Bb7, but not by
finale!
You've had some great advice, and what you want to write is, in fact,
non-standard and confusing
Hi John,
The *notation* for compound chords isn't confusing, and your suggestion:
C chord
-
Bb7 chord
is both redundant *and* confusing.
It's only the fact that Roger's particular compound chord is
functionally equivalent to a standard chord (and is better written as a
standard
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