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my neighbor's akbash (turkish stock dog) along w. our German Shepherd, ea. 100
to 150 lbs keep the coyotes out. the coyotes and coydogs are quite large,
fearless of people. I miss the native wildlife they displace. But since they
are here, it is nice to kn
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This message is from: Gail Russell
The 100 Silliest Things People Say About Dogs (Paperback) Is the name of the
book. By Alexandra Semyonova
Ignore the bad review on Amazon. From what this woman has said on the e-mail
list, she has reviewed lots of studies and is very careful about the
This message is from: pedfjo...@aol.com
I have a litter of future carriage dogs. The project took me
almost 3 years now with tons of learning, talking to breeders and looking at
dogs
for sale. I have bred 2 of my Pembroke Welsh Corgi's and can offer some
wonderful pups for
This message is from: Twinkle Tack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Janet, while your dogs are very lovelythey are huge and could have
had that family's dog for lunch!
And for the record, Janet is great with the kids. And my 2 are a force
to be reckoned with!
The FjordHorse List archives c
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Watch out with some of the guard dog breeds as they require control or will
bite people who are just looking at your horses. Many are a bit too
protective, I think. Jean Gayle
Author of:
'The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946
This message is from: "Tamarack Lamb & Wool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
It does seem like the dogs that nip/bite livestock more may tend to have
spikier hair. (Out here, the most valued farm dogs I have seen for cattle
on farms with hundreds of cows are the dogs absolutely obsessi
This message is from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi all,
I have been following the farm dog topic with some interest. We had never had
a dog until six years ago when we meet a breeder at bench show who had one 12
week old puppy a home that had been going to a home in CA. but the buyers had
not gotten ba
This message is from: "karl & Jerrie Froelch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
we've got a real-live giant schnoz, very likely purebred. It feels
like fate. ...It also feels wet & tickly, he woke up & is licking and
nibbling my toes...better get the puppy outside. :)
---
This message is from: "kate charboneau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
About 5 years ago my German Shepherd passed away and hubby and I have
been working our way up to another big, guardy, livestock compatible,
family dog. This dog's job is to be my shadow/security blanket when
hubby works nights, get along
unds that if left to their own
devices will travel far and wide. Sheep herding and sheep guarding dogs are
of no use if they are not with the flock, thus are much more naturally home
bound.
Janet
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acceptablenot to mention the potential for injury. Before i got my
elkhound, I read that they had a tendency to take off, and were independent
thinkersbut not with as great a tendency to roam as a huskie. Still,
they always need to be on a leash when outdoors. That works fine for
er apple might
help. You can also spray a bit of bitter apple in the dogs mouth if you
are right there and see the dog go into "chase tail mode". The thing to
remember is that it is so self-rewarding for them to do this that if you
allow it once in the while it will be very hard to g
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My Elkhound will NOT go down the driveway towards the highway, and our dogs
don't go out in the woods by themselves, for some reason. Maybe it's the
wolves.
Anyway, Elkhounds are not sled dogs, so maybe that's a difference.
Save
This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
While we are at it, I would be interested in further feedback on my
conceptions (misconceptions) about some breeds of "farm dogs."
One of my ideas about "farm dogs" is that they are the type of dog that
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In a message dated 5/2/2007 7:33:43 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> We have wire fox terrier that runs behind the Fjords barking and bites
> their
> tails. He only does this if they are running. We've trained him to stay out
> of t
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
We have a lovely 2-yr filly for sale here in NW MT that has been exceptionally
chummy since birth. She was first place at Libby Int'l Fjord Horse Show 05.
Lovely ground manners; leads, loads, bathes, trims, and hangs out with you.
A2Z Thor
This message is from: "Cherie Mascis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Yay! Great Pyrenees! We have one we bought and one rescue. They are great
dogs. Last year, before we got them, we lost a couple lambs to coyotes.
This year, no problems.
Cherie
The FjordHorse List archives can b
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Here is an excellent study about guard dogs. I found the link to the USDA
study on a Great Pyrenees group that I belong to.
We have three Great Pyrenees. All are rescued dogs, one from as far away as
Montana.
We
This message is from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I have Greater Swiss Mountain Dogs at my farm. They are the best I've found
around both horses & people. The horses have great respect for them (aren't
threatened) & the dogs work around & with them very well. They have a g
This message is from: "Tamarack Lamb & Wool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi Vic
we have some photos on our website www.tamaracksheep.com click on
'guardians' and also dogs for sale. Not pictured was a male we had who was
the more classic big yellow dog.
The spotted
alert to people coming past the house or in the yard. In
fact, no one comes in the yard if they are not well acquainted with the dogs
- mostly to prevent big dog happy greeeting. People who do not know the dogs
do not even attempt to come in the yard. They have no idea of what to expect
and that is t
This message is from: Vic Faeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
That's so interesting , Janet. Can you show us picture
of your dogs? I had a Spanish Mastiff that was bred in
BC Canada, but acquired at the local animal shelter at
one year old. He didn't drool, either. He had a long
nose, like a
This message is from: "Tamarack Lamb & Wool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I'm curious about your guard dogs. What sort of breeds make such good guard
dogs? How are they with people or other animals that belong on the
property? Do they react to strange people the same way as d
This message is from: "Vanessa N Weber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi All,
My kids and I will be coming down to visit my family in Santa Fe, the
weekend of December 15 -19. I'm hoping to be able to bring two small dogs,
under the seat, and turn them over to an elderly lady from L
ain that it happened with regularity and the was
oblivious to it. Now Harrison is very nervous around
any dogs especially at the jog. Today I was jogging
him around the place (on the ground - I don't ride)
trying to firm him up a bit, and every time one of my
dogs ran up behind him Harrison
This message is from: Janet McNally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 16:12:56 -0700
> From: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Cougars & imprinting
>
> This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Hi, just
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Did anyone else notice that it was a Norwegian, Robert Sorlie, who one the I
>ditarod this yearI'm sure Jean in AK noticed ~ Thinking we have more
>snow here than you do!
Yep, I sure did! And the Idiarod started (restarted) in Fairbanks
thought it was a cougar... We kept
the dogs away from them for awhile too, just in case.
anyway, we never worried about leaving the mare and foal out at night after
that... not with Mira on guard!
It's been so cold here this winter that all the fjord manes look like wild
things hopefully they
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Or possibly a coy-dog? (Coyote/dog hybrid)?
Jean in sunny but windy and COLD Fairbanks, AK.
>Hate to be a pest (again) on the canine issues, but... coyotes don't weigh
65
>lbs. 30-40lbs max. Also, a lone coyote would not go after an adult ho
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In a message dated 3/12/2003 3:19:07 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Early one morning, the Thoroughbred's owner turned her into the
> pasture for a run, then left. I arrived just in time to see a 65 pound
> coyote corner the mare,
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Good to hear the story about Pooh and the coyote. Amazing she was so
determined to do the job herself. Makes me feel more confident re what
might happen here with the coyotes circling about the neighborhood. Wonder
how a cougar would fare?
This message is from: "Monica Spencer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
R. Taylor said:
> Pooh went through the gate of her pen (it's bull panels - she broke the
> chain), through the field fence (she broke 2 wooden posts over), and
> killed the coyote.
Wow! What an amazing story! Thanks for sharing it.
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This note is from R. Taylor, Straw Hat Stables
I read the note from Hope Carlson, about the Fjords protecting a little
one from the neighbor's pit bull. I'm glad your baby is OK. I have a 13
y.o. Fjord brood mare who goes by the name of Pooh (you know, fuzzy
rmed and the neighbor was sensible in the end.
I've had lots of dog problems at places where I board/ride. Many people who
live in the country think it's still OK to let their dogs loose. Well, to an
extent, but they should either be supervised or stay on the owner's property.
Old
This message is from: Janet McNally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
My appologies about the multiple posts, I tried sending from
a different computer, and do not know why it sent three
copies of everything I wrote!
enough has been said. like always, buyer beware! learn
about your breed.
Janet
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In a message dated 3/9/2003 5:21:52 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> thousands of pit bulls are being relinquished at just one shelter? How is
> it
> that so many "gentle and friendly" dogs of a rather rare breed
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Tell us about the arena, please.
> Gail
The training area is 70 wide and 152 ft long and it additionally has a 14x18
tack and hitch on end, plus it has an 18 ft x 152' wing on the side for ten
8x16 ' stalls and an 8ft wide alley ful
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I know people whose UPS man refused to enter their drivewayafter
experiencing several flats from the teeth of their ranch border collie.
>
(A
>Fila can rip a tire off of a wheel !)
>
>No one loves Rotties more than I, they positively do ma
This message is from: "Tamarack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>That's right. Fight DOGS. Not people. In my years at the shelter I handled
>hundreds, if not thousands, of fighting pit bulls. Very, very few were
>aggressive towards people. Those who did had clearly been sta
This message is from: "Tamarack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>That's right. Fight DOGS. Not people. In my years at the shelter I handled
>hundreds, if not thousands, of fighting pit bulls. Very, very few were
>aggressive towards people. Those who did had clearly been sta
> different than a Labrador retriever, is incorrect, and
> contributes to people buying dogs not suited for their
> needs.
>
> Janet W McNally
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You are absolutely correct Janet.
This subject has been mau
This message is from: Janet McNally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Apparently my comment earlier, that the Rottweiler is bred
> and used for fighting was completely ignored.
Briged wrote:
>Probably because it's false. Rottweilers are draft dogs,
that's why they are
>built l
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My breed of choice in dogs are keeshonden and poms, and I have been actively
involved in the rescue of kees for many years, when I lived in Michigan and
now here in So. California.
The foremost thing I appreciate in keeshonden, is there willingness to
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In a message dated 3/7/2003 10:52:52 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >Bad dogs MAIMING AND KILLING people are the result of bad
> owners.
>
> No, this is not true,
Actually, it is, and your post proves it :-) It
This message is from: "Janne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Just one question begs to be asked, - why on earth keep any bad dog around at
all? Are not the risks involved to high? I have bred dogs for decades, but
I will NOT sell or pass on a biting dog, NO matter what!
Now every
This message is from: Janet McNally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Bad dogs MAIMING AND KILLING people are the result of bad
owners.
No, this is not true, some dogs are bred to have low
trigger points, and to attack to the death, it is programmed
into their head by years of selection by people
This message is from: "Monica Spencer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Brigid said:
> It's amazing how many people walk right up to him when he's walking with
me (or
> worse, in the car) and want to put their face in his face and hug!
> --they actually argue with me and continue what they are doing.
It's so
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In a message dated 3/6/2003 12:10:46 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> You are
> right in speaking out. bad dogs are not always a result of bad owners.
>
Ruthie & Jaime-
Don't misunderstand my original comme
ottweiller? Yes, probably - if the
personality was good; I've known a number of fabulous Rotties. Would I own
a pit bull? No. I've known some pleasant pits but I've also seen more than
once what can happen with those low trigger-point dogs (and it ain't pretty,
folks). Co
I did not by
any
> means make him this way. I don't like the phrase bad dogs mean bad
owners.
> This is NOT true.
==
I totally agree with you Jaimie.
Where has that kind of absolute thinking come from?! It is like saying that
all living creatures are born go
y any
means make him this way. I don't like the phrase bad dogs mean bad owners.
This is NOT true. Of course there are dogs that fall into the hands of bad
people but I am not a bad owner. I take every precaution necessary with my
dog to make sure that he is not a threat to anyone. I will not
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HAHA!! Carol - our Irish Terrier does the same thing - dances on three feet
most of the time when cold. He does wear a coat -- suppose I should get him
boots with our move up north on a "fjord note", little "Hasse" is
shedding all his baby winte
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Cheryl wrote:
"...In addition, [Rufus] has been known to try and prove his dominance
by grasping them with both paws firmly around a hock"
Um ... ... if I saw my collie Mac doing that,
I'd say the dog was trying to have a little male-dog fun instea
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Hey all!
One only has to look at the cover of this latest Fjord Herald to see the kind
of relationship our Fjords have with our dog Skye. Skye has been with all
our foals from their first day, and has even attended a birth or two and even
helped "Mama"
y like
that in a converted cattle barn, open, not dusty and very
ventilated! He got healthy very quickly.
Dogs and horses from a real dog trainer's point of view: I
agree. It depends on the dog! When I went to buy Finne from
the Bosomworth's I was warned in advance to not bring any
dogs with me (t
about 20 minutes and accepted that he was never going to get it
and any furththe explanation was beyond me (so was the cost, ultimately).
Re horses and dogs. Those of you who know my Australian shepherd, Rufus, will
attest he is (of course)
a wonderful dog. But more than a little jealous of the hors
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A timely mention of fjords and dogs, Patti.
I let Sven, Lena and Hasse out of the fenced area to graze today. They
wander around with halters and lead ropes dragging. Hasse runs free.
Our Irish Terrier was feeling playful - grabbed Sven's lead
This message is from: "Dave & Patti Jo Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Our black lab loves the horses, infact she LOVES to lick out the nostrils!
It's rather gross, but the Fjords are the only ones she can do it to. When
they are in the cross ties,she comes and waits for them to lower their heads,
th
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Linda be sure to take Ricka to the Kirche when the priest blesses all the
animals.
We would love to have your rain here as we are taking on the appearance of
the desert, or so it seems to a webfoot.
Jean Walters Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
Autho
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In a message dated 10/31/2002 7:57:14 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> For any of you who are considering the wisdom of donating Fjords to
> therapeutic organizations: Last year we donated a young Fjord mare to Ride
> On Center for K
This message is from: "Salt Lick Stables" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Stray dogs:
Stray dogs are a big problem here in northwestern NM. We have huge packs
that roam like coyotes. Because so many dog owners refuse to take
responsibility for their dogs' welfare or to spay or ne
This message is from: "Peter Randall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I'll add my two cents (perhaps a nickel) on dogs and animals vis a vis
horses.
You may remember that a while back I posted a message asking what to do about
the herding dog I had purchased and my horses.
At first
shop vac didn't work for us. On the subject of dogs I
strongly agree that some dogs are dangerous and the safety of horse and
rider is far more important than any consideration to the uncontrolled
dogs. If a dog were to bite a horse's leg just right, the horse could
end up permanently lame
H who is willing at any time to take on a dog also.
- Original Message -
From: "SAFreivald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "fjordhorse-digest"
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: Dogs
> This message is from: "SAFreivald" <[EMAIL
This message is from: "SAFreivald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
We had a situation with an irresponsible owner and a dog that loved to chase
any/everything and bite it. You name it, bicyclists, cars (yes, he bit the
tires, too) kids, horses --- lived down the road from us and when approached
just laughed
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I have heard of the kids on newspaper routes with squirt bottles of
water mixed with ammonia to fend of the dogs...guess it worked, they kept
doing it.
Carole Sweet Modesto, CA
This message is from: "Reena" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I have to throw in my two cents here. A friend of mine had a Australian
Cattle Dog..cute as bug, but no matter what she did this dog wanted to
HERD!it would circle the horses endlessly when they were out. The
only thing she could do w
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Unsolicited opinion looming.These dogs who were bred to herd can, and
must, be taught to obey. What do you think goes on at Sheepherding Trials?
The dog has a job that he is genetically equipped to do, but he follows
orders and also knows to stop
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The dog can be trained to leave the horses alone But you must be very firm
My Aussie, Border collie, and Beagle all
leave the horses chicks and donkey alone (also had a llama once)
because Mom gets REALLY MAD when you chase them
and I'm the Boss (at leas
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I have two Corgis. They are herding dogs built low to the ground to nip
heels and not get kicked. Does not work. I had one Corgi who insisted on
nipping and was kicked hard on many occasions and would wake up and charge
r
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In a message dated 7/24/02 12:54:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< He has no desire to go to a distant pasture and herd. I simply hate to
have to
tie him up when they are around the backyard which unfortunately the main
barn
is
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Hello everyone,
Donkeys are great herd protectors, no doubt. However, one should research
the breed before going out and purchasing one. We love our jennet and yes,
she does protect her herd of ponies, but we would never have a jack, gelded
or not, on
This message is from: "Sue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi Peterwell I hate to say this but I believe you have the wrong breed
of dog to train not to herd. What you have is a natural herding animal.
This herding instinct is so strong I believe it uncurable. We also have a
Border Collie and in the
This message is from: "Hope Carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Having a donkey in the herd really helps. My fjords aren't really that
aggressive with dogs but get fretful. The donkey keeps all dogs and coyotes
out of the pasture, even our border collie won't go near him.
This message is from: "W. Peter Randall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Thanks for all the advice re the new "herding" dog will keep you informed. It
is not so desperate as "find him a new home". It is easily solved by tying him
up when horses are at his (backyard) end of the farm and letting him loose
when
are part of the "family". Dogs are very big on the
family thing!! We also taught her a simple little behavior (trick if you
will); "Leave it alone" - this works with a dog treat, a horse, the ducks on
the ditch, a piece of food dropped on the ground, etc. When we say "leav
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Peter wrote:
"... 2) I have a new dog who is just great with our three small kids and
wonderful on the farm except where horses are concerned The dog is a
Shep\Collie mix, one year old and always been in a city"
Your dog is genetically programed
This message is from: Alison Bakken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi W. Peter Randall,
If you can get hold of a training collar. I have one that is an electic
collar that is controlled by a hand held button. Most of the larger pet
store carry them, some will even rent them for a week or so. The collar
w
This message is from: "W. Peter Randall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply was: "However, in nature horses roam over a large area and their dung
does not pile up in one place, attracting flies. Also they are not fenced so
they can seek relief in dust, shade, water etc."
-Makes a lot of sense to me.
Look
This message is from: Janet McNally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Peter,
re: the dog chasing horses.
I use stock dogs every day to work sheep and cattle. your shepherd/collie mix
is
doing what is instinctive... it is not something he thinks about before hand,
but is
reacting to stimuli, such
d until she made a grab at his ankle and 'lifted' her clear
into the air, throwing her a few feet. She hit with a thud. She
continued to follow us around, but at a comfortable distance. Beast
discouraged a lot of dogs over the years we had him. And anyone or
anything that looked l
nce with shock collarsbut I have seen dogs that
would not even walk anywhere in the direction of an electric fence line
after they were once shocked by it.
Gail Russell
Forestville CA
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This message is from: "Bill Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Carol J. Makosky
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 1:14 PM
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: Re: Dogs\Flies and Foals - Good title for
er...and really learn
about how people, dogs, chickens, horses learn.Join a dog clicker
training e-mail list and ask for help there. Be sure to read the
information regarding the efficacy of "punishments." Try to get help on
working on "positively reinforcing" an "incom
needs to be applied once every two
weeks, and it's odorless. The horses are much more comfortable.
Re: dogs. Congrats on your new pup! Negative reinforcement (pulling on leash,
saying no) will actually make the problem worse. Your dog will start to
associate horses with punishment and get
ot the metal stall door shut.
>
> I am praying the horse novelty will wear off but am obviously concerned for
> the safety of the horses and us humans! ADVICE GREATLY APPRECIA
Hi,
I would try a remote shock collar on the dog. This sounds like a very bad and
dangerous situation and is not good
This message is from: "W. Peter Randall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
A few things from the Niagara Region in heat struck Ontario...
1) Re: "Only thing works around here is a flyswatter" I found that quite
amusing. I myself can't help but think about flies and horses in a different
light.
Lots of people
trip in 4 days.
Reena
This message is from: "Sarah Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sherrie,
Friends and family that suffer from motion/car sickness have found relief
by
using ginger capsules. Your friend might want to see if that would help
the dog, by taking a few shorter tri
ll quit now...everything you never wanted to know about skijoring
with dogs! LOL
Jean in Fairbanks, Alaaska, where it has warmed up to-20...above zero
tomorrow!
>
> Jean, at the speed our dogs take us down a hill, I would not want to be
>"attached" to them! And I ca
This message is from: "truman matz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Jean Gayle writes,
Can it be that as Fjords smell
>different than other horse breeds, are so willing to be our friends, eat
>anything, come when called, own us, >
***
I found that comment s
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
HELP I am being attacked Can it be that as Fjords smell
different than other horse breeds, are so willing to be our friends, eat
anything, come when called, own us, that it was not an Arab at all mixed in
there eons ago!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated 3/5/01 4:03:16 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Gail you have never found a sweeter dog than a Corgi. Their personalities
> are very similar to fjords.
>
Hi, yes there are one's EVEN sweeter then Corgi's :) They
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Vivian,
> Putting the groom down without penalty except time would probably
> lead to drivers continuing to drive forward in the hazard while
> their hapless groom continued to run alongside
> Plus grooms might get down to lead a horse past or through
This message is from: vivian creigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Steve,
Grooms can and do get bounced off the carriage because the driver's going too
fast, because they're not holding on, because they hit something hard and
probably other reasons that I can't think of now.
Putting the groom down witho
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vivian,
OK, that sounds more believable. But I have heard of some other crazy
things people have done to avoid putting down a groom. So my question is
what is the purpose of the rule? It seems it would breed a certain
amount of recklessness. After all,
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As much as Milton would love his pole walking skills to extend to doing it
while his father galloped the hazard this is not the case. The team was stopped
while Milton refixed the trace.
Vivian
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> > was Bill Long sending his son " down the pole " rather than put him
> > down to
> > fix a stray slipped trace. ( You get points off for putting a groom
> > down in
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> was Bill Long sending his son " down the pole " rather than put him
> down to
> fix a stray slipped trace. ( You get points off for putting a groom
> down in
> the marathon portion of a CDE. )
The CDE's should have a bigger penalty for doing reckles
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In a message dated 2/15/01 3:16:02 PM Mountain Standard Time,
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<< As a competitor he probably felt he needed a faster, lighter pony with a
better ability to recover in the vet box. Anyone who has seen Bill drive
knows that he lik
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