Once upon a time (Fri Feb 03), Amber Robey wrote:
Listen everybody - I am not trying to make things difficult for any
you. I am honestly just trying to keep the list running smoothly
and enforce the LEM list rules. That's all.
I've operated a fairly large, and used-to-be extremely busy,
Once upon a time (Fri Feb 03), phoenix wrote:
It's unfortunate that AOL and the advent of free webmail (which
almost always has lazy users top-posting and including /everything/
in the previous message) have utterly destroyed what was once a
far more pleasant means of communication, but once
On Feb 2, 2006, at 9:32 pm, Andrew in Ann Arbor wrote:
Hello All
I've been loving Tiger on my 500 MHz Pismo but I want to figure out
a SCSI connection before I sell off the trusty Lombard and the best
solution I've found to date is a USB to SCSI adapter that only runs
under OS9.
So I
Hear hear! I often read this list on my Palm Treo wonder box, but its
mighty expensive and tough scrolling if its full of uneccessary verbage.
As for the bad responses recieved, I am ashamed as a Mac user that
colleagues could behave in such a way... shame on you! Stay tight
Amber, thank
Actually Tim, these rules have been in existence for at least a
year. As Laurent said in his first note, they are not up for
debate. If you are not willing or able to follow them, you might
as well unsubscribe from this list too.
Amber Robey
G-Books List Manager
Rules are rules. To
On Feb 3, 2006, at 1:55 AM, Frank P. Eigler wrote:
On Thu, 2 Feb 2006, Tim Collier wrote:
I have broadband cable.doesn't cost me anything other than what I
pay monthly.
For that matter, I haven't seen any ISP's that charge by the minute
lately..what, in years?
Tim
On Feb 2, 2006, at
On Feb 3, 2006, at 5:39 AM, Tim Collier wrote:
OK, bottom posting. I've belonged to these 'lists' for quite a few
years and it's never been an issue, why now all of a sudden? I am
confused.
Tim
Exterminate all rational thought.
Most likely has more to do with the ads at the bottom of
Having gotten a Powerbook 1.67 (last year's model) with a backlit keyboard -
which is cool - it operates somewhat sporadically, turning on and off
without any reason as far as I can tell.
Is there anything can be done about this?
At the moment it works about as well as voice recognition (Tell me
Having gotten a Powerbook 1.67 (last year's model) with a backlit keyboard -
which is cool - it operates somewhat sporadically, turning on and off
without any reason as far as I can tell.
Is there anything can be done about this?
Not just me then, I've been under whelmed by this - have to
On Feb 3, 2006, at 7:39 AM, Brian Steere wrote:
Having gotten a Powerbook 1.67 (last year's model) with a backlit
keyboard -
which is cool - it operates somewhat sporadically, turning on and off
without any reason as far as I can tell.
Is there anything can be done about this?
I also
I've got an old Toshiba 10X CD-ROM that I swapped into my Lombard, because the
stock DVD-ROM was getting flaky, but it's not letting me boot from a known
good SuSE Linux disc, even though it shows up in the Finder perfectly fine.
Any suggestions? The drive starts to spin up, but it defaults
I recently came across a nice photoshop like application. Its an open
source program.
www.gimp.org
works with photo retouching image authoring. I have been playing with
Steve - I downloaded it. Wow! Is this complex to someone who has only been
working with Apple's iPhoto. Would you
On 2/3/06, Tim Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So much for bottom posting, eh?
THIS is the reason I don't like bottom posting. When I first saw
this in preview, all I see is different replies. Having to go to the
area and scroll down to read six words is really silly and wasteful
of
--- Terry McCune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello all and thanks in advance for any tips/advice.
As a project in my retirement, I'm going to resuscitate
my original iBook.
Can any old 2.5 mm drive do?
ATA or IDE?
Is one brand better than another?
How much of an issue is disc speed?
Terry
Tim Collier wrote:
THIS is the reason I don't like bottom posting. When I first saw this
in preview, all I see is different replies. Having to go to the area
and scroll down to read six words is really silly and wasteful of
everybody's time. This is the type that I usually just ignore
On 2/3/06, phoenix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lazy programmers and feature creep. Having worked for a software
development firm, I can tell you these are the two biggest reasons we have
such Big Fat Hairy programs out there today.
In a previous life as a programmer, any bloat in the apps we
On Feb 3, 2006, at 10:32 AM, Kurt Cypher wrote:
My point is that yes, there are lazy programmers out there (I've
worked with some of them), but unfortunately, a lot of times the
programmers are forced to take shortcuts that cause bloat, merely
because they have no choice. Someone much higher
All of that takes several actions and time. I am active on many
lists, and if bottom posting is preferred, it would be simpler if
there were a way to make that the default.
Well, under Options in Outlook Express 5.06 there is a radio button where
you can select whether your reply will be typed
On Feb 2, 2006, at 23:53, G-Books wrote:
The size of programs and the amount of memory and processing power
that is needed to run them has really gotten out of hand.
You would think it would be the reverse.
It's all about money.
Software companies need to add features so they can persuade
On 2/3/06, Peter Apockotos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Without violating any of my NDA's. The testing phase is also rushed
too quickly.
Peter Apockotos
Rushed and lacking resources to do more comprehensive testing.
Kurt
--
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...
Small Dog
On Feb 2, 2006, at 23:53, G-Books wrote:
Most people know how to highlight text, hit delete, move the
courser and type information into a new location. Why would you
need to set your e-mail program to reply to any message.
I'm using Mail in Panther and all I do is highlight the text I want to
On Feb 3, 2006, at 11:00 AM, Andrew in Ann Arbor wrote:
It's all about money.
Software companies need to add features so they can persuade you to
buy the latest release.
Hardware companies need to persuade you that you need new features
(video editing anyone?) so they can sell you faster
On Feb 3, 2006, at 11:04 AM, Kurt Cypher wrote:
On 2/3/06, Peter Apockotos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Without violating any of my NDA's. The testing phase is also rushed
too quickly.
Peter Apockotos
Rushed and lacking resources to do more comprehensive testing.
Kurt
I think rushing is
Tim Collier writes:
THIS is the reason I don't like bottom posting. When I first saw
this in preview, all I see is different replies. Having to go to
the area and scroll down to read six words is really silly and
wasteful of everybody's time.
It's only a waste of time when the
Yes, it's in OS 9.0 but I've obviously got a problem of some sort. I think
that I now know the card works... But in the 2400 nothing. I've got Airport
installed... I suppose it's possible that the PC card cage or
whatever is non-functional.
Have you tried both slots?
On 2/1/06 8:14
On Feb 2, 2006, at 10:08 PM, Woody Duncan wrote:
Woody
And I remember when holes in a stack of punch cards sorted with
long metal rods was considered state of the art. Of course they
taught me to read a slide rule and set metal type by hand when
I was in High
On Feb 2, 2006, at 5:23 PM, Tim Collier wrote:
You know how when you open Word, you get that little Window over on
the right for formatting? Windows version never had that, you
always had to search and eventually find the formatting that you
wanted.
That's been available for years, it
On Feb 2, 2006, at 7:41 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
I don't see any way to set Mac Mail to do this by default. Am I
missing something?
Hmmm, that might be a problem. I checked myself (I'm using
Entourage) and I
couldn't find any way to set Mail to bottom post when replying.
So, as such,
On Feb 3, 2006, at 7:01 AM, bobgir2004 wrote:
I recently came across a nice photoshop like application. Its an open
source program.
www.gimp.org
works with photo retouching image authoring. I have been playing with
Steve - I downloaded it. Wow! Is this complex to someone who has
only
We just got words from Dan, the List Mom, about the top-bottom posting issue
and here is what he said:
The rule applies regardless of the default behavior of any given email
client. We established the rule for four reasons:
1. It's logical. It shows the flow from message to response.
2. It
Anne, I certainly appreciate the thankless job you and all the other
listmoms do.
Illigitimi non carborundum
--
Bruce Johnson
This is the sig who says 'Ni!'
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Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives |
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On Feb 3, 2006, at 11:31 AM, MorningAJ wrote:
Tim Collier writes:
THIS is the reason I don't like bottom posting. When I first saw
this in preview, all I see is different replies. Having to go to
the area and scroll down to read six words is really silly and
wasteful of everybody's
On Feb 3, 2006, at 8:05 AM, Andrew in Ann Arbor wrote:
I'm using Mail in Panther and all I do is highlight the text I want
to quote and hit reply.
The cursor does end up above the quote but it's just one click to
get it below.
Filling the subject line is more aggravation since I get the
On 3-Feb-06, at 8:57 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
Anne, I certainly appreciate the thankless job you and all the
other listmoms do.
Illigitimi non carborundum
--
Bruce Johnson
Hi Bruce,
I really appreciate this note. Thank you !
Amber :-)
G-Books Assistant List Manager/nanny
--
G-Books
I use a G-4 powerbook, OS 10.4. I recently got an ipod
to hold photos (triplet grandkids) and some music.
I'm confused on uploading new music without losing
the old tunes on the ipod. When I add new stuff to my
itunes and then want to put them on my ipod, do I have
to upload everything (takes
My reply follows quote.
On 2/3/06, at 5:53 AM -0500, Tim Collier wrote:
THIS is the reason I don't like bottom posting. When I first saw
(snip)
go on to the next one that top posted. I think we need to put this
to a vote.
I've been a list nanny since we started having nannies, and on one
On 3-Feb-06, at 9:58 AM, Woody Duncan wrote:
I'm confused on uploading new music without losing
the old tunes on the ipod.
Hello Woody,
First - congrats on your triplet grandkids !!
Second - regarding the iPod - whenever you plug your iPod into your
Powerbook, it will be automatically
Rules are rules. To go against the rules is like disagreeing with
the president: unpatriotic. You're with us or against us.
On Feb 3, 2006, at 2:39 AM, Tim Collier wrote:
OK, bottom posting. I've belonged to these 'lists' for quite a few
years and it's never been an issue, why
On Feb 3, 2006, at 8:00 AM, Andrew in Ann Arbor wrote:
The size of programs and the amount of memory and processing power
that is needed to run them has really gotten out of hand.
You would think it would be the reverse.
It's all about money.
Software companies need to add features so they
On Feb 3, 2006, at 1:22 PM, CG Bacani wrote:
Rules are rules. To go against the rules is like disagreeing with
the president: unpatriotic. You're with us or against us.
On Feb 3, 2006, at 2:39 AM, Tim Collier wrote:
It becomes an issue Tim if there are irresponsible statements
that's
Amber wrote:
It is a good idea to back up your iTunes library on a disk or
external hard drive from time to time.
Thanks Amber,
I have one MP3 song I downloaded from the web.
itunes will not load it to my ipod. It plays on my
laptop but I'd like it on the go. Is there a way to
On Fri Feb 03, Amber Robey wrote:
Listen everybody - I am not trying to make things difficult for any
you. I am honestly just trying to keep the list running smoothly
and enforce the LEM list rules. That's all.
Aside from my one snip about bottom posting, I was going to refrain from
entering
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Tim Collier wrote:
On Feb 3, 2006, at 1:55 AM, Frank P. Eigler wrote:
[snip]
So much for bottom posting, eh?
THIS is the reason I don't like bottom posting. When I first saw
this in preview, all I see is different replies. Having to go to the
area and scroll down to
On 03/02/06 13:22, CG Bacani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just hope that such a quotation does not represent the thinking of
the admin.
No, it doesn't.
BTW, folks, check your quoting. No need to quote the LowEndMac footer added
at the bottom of each message.
-Laurent.
G-Books List Nanny
--
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Woody Duncan wrote:
I use a G-4 powerbook, OS 10.4. I recently got an ipod
to hold photos (triplet grandkids) and some music.
I'm confused on uploading new music without losing
the old tunes on the ipod. When I add new stuff to my
itunes and then want to put them on my
On Feb 3, 2006, at 11:30 AM, Woody Duncan wrote:
Amber wrote:
It is a good idea to back up your iTunes library on a disk or
external hard drive from time to time.
Thanks Amber,
I have one MP3 song I downloaded from the web.
itunes will not load it to my ipod. It plays on my
On Feb 2, 2006, at 11:53 PM, G-Books wrote:
Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 20:25:21 -0800
From: Amber Robey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT /Note to list...
In-reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
However, I have been sent very rude, abusive and even threatening
off-list
On Feb 3, 2006, at 8:52 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
The rule applies regardless of the default behavior of any given
email
client. We established the rule for four reasons:
In Safari I found that there is a pref setting for sending your
signature to the bottom (I added an extra line of
I just tried it in a PB 3500 Kanga (OS9.1) and
I've got lights there so I guess it does work. I just can't figure out how
to get it to show up on the 2400 in OS 9.
Hello All.
I have been following this thread for a couple of days, and I am of the
opinion that you have not installed all of the
On 03/02/06 15:02, sandra ragan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 3, 2006, at 8:52 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
The rule applies regardless of the default behavior of any given
email
client. We established the rule for four reasons:
In Safari I found that there is a pref setting for
Laurent Daudelin writes:
BTW, folks, check your quoting. No need to quote the LowEndMac
footer added at the bottom of each message.
My webmail client forces me to strip it out manually (oh, the horror!),
but at home, using Entourage, the footer is automagically eliminated without
any
On 2/3/06 10:46 AM, Peter Apockotos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Without violating any of my NDA's. The testing phase is also rushed
too quickly.
The testing phase - you mean that period after the application has been
given to the customer, right? evil grin
I look back on my days as a programmer
If you can modify your signature, you can also add 2 '-' characters at the
beginning of a line, just above your name and signature.
The standard is -- (dash dash space) on a line by itself. See RFC
3676 for instance.
Brian
--
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...
Small Dog
On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 11:30:16 -0700, Woody Duncan wrote
Amber wrote:
It is a good idea to back up your iTunes library on a disk or
external hard drive from time to time.
Thanks Amber,
I have one MP3 song I downloaded from the web.
itunes will not load it to my ipod. It plays
--- Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
We just got words from Dan, the List Mom, about the
top-bottom posting issue
and here is what he said:
The rule applies regardless of the default
behavior of any given email
client. We established the rule for four reasons:
1. It's
On Feb 3, 2006, at 1:22 PM, CG Bacani wrote:
Rules are rules. To go against the rules is like disagreeing with
the president: unpatriotic. You're with us or against us.
On Feb 3, 2006, at 2:39 AM, Tim Collier wrote:
OK, bottom posting. I've belonged to these 'lists' for quite a
Could you guys please take this argument off line or else can an
administrator please block these emails from the list going forward?
Thanks.
On Feb 3, 2006, at 1:22 PM, CG Bacani wrote:
Rules are rules. To go against the rules is like disagreeing with
the president: unpatriotic.
On Feb 3, 2006, at 3:55 PM, Mimi Vitetta wrote:
Could you guys please take this argument off line or else can an
administrator please block these emails from the list going forward?
Thanks.
Tim,
I did not attribute that statement to you. I just quoted it for
purposes of situating your
On Feb 3, 2006, at 12:02 PM, sandra ragan wrote but was not posted to
the list:
On Feb 3, 2006, at 8:52 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
The rule applies regardless of the default behavior of any given
email
client. We established the rule for four reasons:
In Safari I found that there is a
That's ok because this flaming set of emails has caused me to remove myself
from your list.
Every list I've been on (except for yours apparently) has a list mom that
you can complain to about flaming emails (which are 'as a rule' generally
blocked by the administrator).
Maybe it would be a good
On Feb 3, 2006, at 5:03 AM, Seth Austen wrote:
any way to set its preferences for turning on and staying on.
Looking on my Big Al with OS 10.3.9 System Prefs: Keyboard Mouse
has only a checkbox to illuminate in lowlight conditions (by it's
sensor) and a period of time that it turns off
Quoth sandra ragan :
In Safari I found that there is a pref setting for sending your
signature to the bottom
In /Safari/? Please don't mistake this for nit-picking, but I'm
genuinely curious if it's Safari (the web browser) or Mail.app that you're
talking about -- or some other program. I
Quoth Tim Collier :
Fine, I give in! I'll 'attempt' to bottom post out of courtesy
to the rest of you. I don't like it, but I like this list.
I think that's about all anyone's asked, really.
I do not plan to unsubscribe.
Well, that's good. No, seriously, I mean that's /good/. No
Amen!
I'm retired at age 55 with no debt because for the last
couple decades I've bought what I need instead of what I want. I buy
a new compact car every 10 years, live in a house I inherited and
rehabbed, and buy the cheapest new Mac every 5 years or so. My one
disappointment with
And, as far as relevant questions: What can anyone tell me about
Wegener
Media and the service they provide?
They're a small shop in the Carolinas with remarkably offhand business
practices. You probably won't get ripped off when dealing with them,
but it could take a while to
Stardate 060203.11:05 -0500. A subspace message from Andrew in Ann Arbor reads:
I'm using Mail in Panther ... The cursor does end up above the quote ...
It does WHAT?!? Have the Mail devteam been spending too much time
stuck inside Outcroak or something? Methinks we should all write to
the
Stardate 060203.11:52 -0500. A subspace message from Laurent Daudelin reads:
1. It's logical. It shows the flow from message to response.
Historical note: RFC 1855 (which is what these rules are based on)
grew out of the inherent patchiness in UseNet NNTP propagation --
no-one could
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