Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-30 Thread dark
Hi Tom. While I do see your point and generally speaking would agree, at the same time the Iphone has seen more than a few interactive audio dramas which directly buck this trend. Codename Signus, the Freq, Blindside and quite a few others, even to a large extent games like papasangre which

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-30 Thread Darren Harris
hi tom you could use stattic graphics in the game to illustrate a given situation. so as well as a bang that you'd hear you'd see a static version of the explosion as well. a few games use this tactic as well and this also has encouraged people to write in and submit additional graphical conten

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-30 Thread dark
Hi Tom. That idea of separate categories sounds like a good one, plus then of course I could add the links to reviews or walkthrus to relevent entries on audiogames.net. I've already been doing this with sites like applevis, and it would be no trouble to do it with audeasy either. Beware th

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-30 Thread Darren Harris
hi tom. i do think text based games do have their place for sure. unfortunately if you look at a lot of browser based text games there isn't much imagination put into them a lot of the time. with acceptions like core exiles or space odacey. i think this is why people are losing interest in them

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-30 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, I agree the best of both worlds are highbred's like Destination Mars or Dodge City Desperados precisely because they don't need lots of graphics, are fully accessible using a screen reader, and still have plenty of game sounds etc to qualify as an audio game. Interesting enough I have be

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread Charles Rivard
. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 12:20 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine Hi Shaun, For some people the lack of graphics will

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread Charles Rivard
12:00 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine Hi Charles, No offense I don't think many sited people would join this list. Mailing lists are for the most part a thing of the past in the minds of most people today. No one wants their email inboxes filled up with messages on topics the

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread Charles Rivard
Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Ron Schamerhorn" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine Hey all Let me first begin by saying that I discovered a copy of #55 just a day or

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread shaun everiss
hmmm I am interested in hybred games. audio and text would make best of both worlds. voiceovers and such to maybe if we can handle it to with audio and also spoken text that appears on screen a screenreader can read who knows. Pure text maybe depends what the game is. At 06:20 PM 10/30/2013, yo

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, That is indeed where we at Audyssey can help. I have began writing a new outline for the Audyssey site, and my idea is to have a section for game articles, another one for reviews, another for walkthroughs, and so on. Basically, have plenty of content that may or may not be available on A

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, For some people the lack of graphics will always be a point of contention, but that does not mean everyone will feel that way. I think what we need here is a different strategy in marketing audio games. As someone said instead of advertising them as blind games we need to market them as

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ron, If you'd be willing to collaborate on it you could send me what you have for issue 55 and I can begin converting it into HTML, and convert it into an online e-zine with links and so forth. I have some ideas where to take the magazine and perhaps you and I can work off list on it together

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles, No offense I don't think many sited people would join this list. Mailing lists are for the most part a thing of the past in the minds of most people today. No one wants their email inboxes filled up with messages on topics they may or may not have any interest in. That's why I think we

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread shaun everiss
well its good that you have appeared and are willing. This fact is why we need to have more than one editor. we also need a dropbox or something where all content is shared. if one guy gets sick or drops his hard drive on his foot breaking it and the drive we need to have backup. it would be good

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread Ron Schamerhorn
Hey all Let me first begin by saying that I discovered a copy of #55 just a day or two ago. Yes it was a combination of personal and computer issues that delayed publication of the issue. I'm still willing and able to be editor of the magazine and yes I agree some changes are certainly in

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread shaun everiss
f not actively positive. That's why even when the db uses the term "symple" it's meant purely descriptively and not as a cryticism. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesda

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread shaun everiss
a close second. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine Hi Charles, This has nothing to do with forums verses lists. The fault of Audyssey not being wide

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread dark
cryticism. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine Hi Dark, Thanks. Those do seem like some good ideas. I guess the only q

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread Charles Rivard
, and more game could become of it. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine Hi Charles

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Thanks. Those do seem like some good ideas. I guess the only question is content. I guess I can go through the past issues to look for reviews, articles, and so on and begin converting them into a database or at least an index with links to each article or review so they are easy to find.

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Darren, Well, I do agree with you for the most part. Although, regarding a podcast I think that is something that should be considered as an addition to the magazine rather than an absolute replacement for the magazine. Not everyone can record a decent podcast, but everyone can write and submit

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread dark
Hi Tom. While I agree a flashy website with lots of multimedia shenanigans would be inappropriate for hosting the audeasy magazine, there are various rather simple things an audeasy site could do. One example is indexing. In the past the audeasy magazine was a great big long text document wi

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, Well, any and all suggestions will be considered. Obviously do to cost or feasibility not every suggestion will be practical or possible, but as I have decided to spend some time on revamping the site and magazine I'll be taking notes over the next few days. On 10/29/13, shaun everiss

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread shaun everiss
well I'd be happy to input if I could to the project of magazine reconstruction. At 07:17 AM 10/30/2013, you wrote: Hi Dark, I agree. That does seem like a good idea. Something to try. Converting Audyssey over to a webzine like Spag is a good idea. It would take a while to build the site up to

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles, This has nothing to do with forums verses lists. The fault of Audyssey not being widely circulated and/or publicized has more to do with its prior management. For years it was simply compiled and published via the mailing list, which worked, but now days as Dark pointed out there are f

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread shaun everiss
well I can think of a blog though you are right about flashyness. We need a link page to liks for games. Right now, the easiest would to link the audiogames database pluss the pcs game lists, and any other devs we want to link to since there are established databases. Its about all we need, mayb

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, I agree. That does seem like a good idea. Something to try. Converting Audyssey over to a webzine like Spag is a good idea. It would take a while to build the site up to Audiogames.net quality, but it would draw people in because the list would be secondary and the majority of the primary

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, I think you are being way too overly pessimistic here. For one thing audio games are continually growing, and there are now more audio games on the market than ever before. When Michael Feir started the Audyssey Magazine it was basically restricted to Dos text based games and interactive

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread shaun everiss
You have a point dark everyone that wants to be everyone has a central website. Its the seat of power and where they shout to the universe at large. Its never took off for us. How much resource would it take to write one or pay for an accessable one which is attractive to be written. We have a s

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread shaun everiss
well there is coolblindtech. They are not always garenteeing to put up content but they are approachable on the at least initial setup they may not ofcause include things it is their choice but still. At 03:37 AM 10/30/2013, you wrote: With respect charles,I disagree on the spelling and gram

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread shaun everiss
and it can remain in email format charles, html or on a website no one is suggesting it should soley go over to forums though I admit that would help if it was published on its own room or the articles room in audiogames. We are not after a sole resource it will take more than 1 resource to pub

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread shaun everiss
I aggree darrin. what say people if we just move the mag to smomething that has the power audiogames.net has a lot of stuff. Adding to it seems to be what is suggested, it has some organisations on it and a lot more people. It has the power to change the universe well enough for the plannet ser

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread shaun everiss
I aggree, we almost need to have a safety buffer of info or something. ideally we would need to have so much info we couldn't publish in one mag. Every few issues maybe 2-3 we would pull things out and put them up. But we could have a safety valve of 2-3 issues to cover any holes, ofcause thats g

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread shaun everiss
I think the mag's primary purpose was to keep people informed before the net which iit did. Now though yeah the old format no longer fits. It needs to be majorly expanded which means more than blind games, maybe mainstream and blind and then maybe other things to. I really liked the game mag but

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread dark
Hi Darren. while I appreciate the comments about the audiogames.net forum, as a correction, actually mailing list are very much still in use precisely because! people can now get E-mails on their iphones, tablets etc and don't! have to go about checking into forums and mucking about online but

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread dark
With respect charles,I disagree on the spelling and grammar front, both because A, it's unfair for the poor editer to have to sit and wade through such a dull task, and B, because I don't want my words americanised in grammar or spelling. Albeit I do agree that anyone submitting an article shou

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread Charles Rivard
Whose fault was it that the magazine wasn't widely publicized? Reasons for why it has it's place in other places than forums have been explained in other posts. Opinions are different. I, for one, find the Email format to be the best. No need to hunt for what you're looking for. I find fo

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread Darren Harris
a podcast would be better because then you could for example demo certain games on the podcast and let the demo's speak for themselves. as dark pointed out and as i have said several times over the years audyssey faled to bring in more readers because of it's lack of exposure to the wider worl

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread Charles Rivard
There are people who did not subscribe to the Audyssey list or who did not have the time to look through a forum who could use the quarterly magazine as a way to keep abreast of what is going on in the gaming community. Also, there were features in the mag that couldn't be found elsewhere. I t

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread dark
Hi Tom. this is an interesting question. I do perfectly agree with your reasoning, about the legitimacy of the magazine and exposure, and indeed if you look at the way web magazines like Spag are still very popular today with their own websites, news letters, facebook groups etc it does seem a

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Darren, What you say is true to a point, but I blame the editor for that. The publication and distribution of the magazine is suppose to be the editors job, and perhaps we simply need a new editor who will do more than put the magazine together. He or she will need to offer the magazine in more

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, I definitely think there is still a place for the Audyssey Magazine. For one thing not everybody is on the Audyssey List or Audio Games Forum. Many people who are busy with work, family, and other aspects of day to day life don't necessarily want to spend all their time browsing the foru

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread Darren Harris
I'm not even sure it's worth having the mag now. I mean, the blind friendly games only get exposure for example if people find their way to the list or the site. Considering that a magazeen is meant to increase exposure of a given topic it fell down there in a massive way because no outlets were ev

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-29 Thread shaun everiss
To be honest, do we even need a magazine. Its been overridden with the email list and the forums of audiogames.net and there is so much out there and so little. Yes if you are in the middle of a project like me its all on but don't take it the wrong way but there is basically f**ck going on. No

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ken, the Audyssey Magazine seems to be in limbo since issue 54. Ron has had a number of personal issues that has had him put the magazine off indefinitely. That said, if we don't see an issue in the next few months I am tempted to take over the magazine and keep it going until Ron can once agai

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine

2013-10-28 Thread dark
Hi Ken. well there is now an alternative for people to post articles. I've created a room on the audiogames.net forum especially for people to post game related articles or links to podcasts with the intention of if not replacing the magazine, at least giving people a place to write similar ma

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine Now Online

2013-04-16 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, At this point I honestly have no idea. As I said I have a lot of irons in the fire right now, and getting the magazine going again is only one of a dozen things to do. Right now getting the site up and running is my primary goal.. After that, then we can see about getting a magazine or s

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine Now Online

2013-04-15 Thread shaun everiss
would it be possible tom to have some sort of schedual for the next mag release date. yeah I know release dates are something to avoid till things are ready but it would be good to know when looking at a new issue of the mag or even the site or both when the next release would likely be, right

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine Now Online

2013-04-14 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, When Michael was in charge of the magazine it was quarterly. I'm hoping to get it back on the original schedule if possible, but a lot of that depends on news. One of the reasons Ron changed it to two issues per year is that those years had less news and submissions and required two quar

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine Now Online

2013-04-13 Thread shaun everiss
well personally I think that a group of us should do the mag, and have it shared in such a way that if things go pairshape, then the mag can be done on a regular schedual. not sure how it would work. my issue is at the moment the mag has no schedual at all. Its not the fault of anyone but the m

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine Now Online

2013-04-13 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dennis, I don't think its necessary, but if you want to do that go ahead. For the moment I don't know where Ron is with issue 55, and since his personal life has been up in the air I don't know how often the magazine will get updated at this point. I have considered temporarily taking over the

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine Now Online

2013-04-13 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ron, I'm sure Josh and the other guys at Draconis are working on that very thing. I know they have a version of Change Reaction for Windows coming up so I would expect Silver Dollar won't be too far behind that. Cheers! On 4/12/13, Ron Kolesar wrote: > Hey Tom, you've been busy. GRIN. > cont

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine Now Online

2013-04-13 Thread James Bartlett
Hello I think it's very cool. Thank u 4 all your hard work. Bfn James -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward [mailto:thomasward1...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 1:48 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine Now Online Hello gamers, I would like to announce as of April

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine Now Online

2013-04-12 Thread Lisa Hayes
well done thomas and thanks. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 3:47 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine Now Online Hello gamers, I would like to announce as of A

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine Now Online

2013-04-12 Thread shaun everiss
thats good news tom At 05:47 AM 4/13/2013, you wrote: Hello gamers, I would like to announce as of April 12, at 1:38 PM U.S. Eastern Time, the Audyssey Magazine has officially gone online. While there are plenty of other online venues such as Audiogames.net where back issues of the magazine may

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine Now Online

2013-04-12 Thread Ron Kolesar
Heyt Tom, you've been busy. GRIN. continue the great job that you've been doing on behalf of blind gamers everywhere. Now if we only could get Dragonus entertainment to make the silver dollar saloon windows format. Can't wait. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states "that a service dog bea

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine Now Online

2013-04-12 Thread Dennis Towne
Thomas, A few years ago, I was concerned that the back issues would be lost, so I also mirrored them at: http://alteraeon.com/audyssey-archive/archive-new/ It's currently just a raw text/zip archive, but if you'd like me to set up a fully automated mirror, I could do so. Dennis Towne Alter Aeo

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine improvement and advancement -Re:Important Notice For All List Members

2013-03-11 Thread dark
It doesn't surprise me word sticks a lot of rubbish in there, methinks I'll stick to doing html by hand instead, though it's nice to know there is an alternative. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsu

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine improvement and advancement - Re:Important Notice For All List Members

2013-03-09 Thread Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine improvement and advance

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine improvement and advancement - Re:Important Notice For All List Members

2013-03-09 Thread Jacob Kruger
From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 1:18 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine improvement and advancement - Re:Important Notice For All List Members Hi tom. wow, well it turns out you learn something new every day. funnily

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine improvement and advancement - Re: Important Notice For All List Members

2013-03-08 Thread dark
Hi tom. wow, well it turns out you learn something new every day. funnily enough even though I've been writing the html for the entries on audiogames.net for the last few years, i've always done it directly myself by hand. i've seen the export to html function in word, but assumed it required

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine improvement and advancement - Re: Important Notice For All List Members

2013-03-08 Thread Phil Vlasak
Hi Thomas, At one time, there was an on-line version of Audyssey. From Stan Bobbitt: Hello to all the listers, I would like to remind everyone about my Audyssey web page where you can browse Audyssey magazine online, just as you would a web page in HTML version; You can click from articl

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine improvement and advancement - Re: Important Notice For All List Members

2013-03-08 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, On the matter of submitting articles for the magazine articles would not have to be submitted in html. That can easily be done by the editor after the magazine is edited and ready to release to the Audyssey community. Which brings me to my second point. These days it isn't absolutely nec

Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine improvement and advancement - Re: Important Notice For All List Members

2013-03-08 Thread dark
Hi Tom. On the html mag front I totally and completely agree. As well as the advantages you mention, it would also be possible to post links directly to developers websites or demos and save people from using copy and paste. My only question about an html mag would be how would submissions w

Re: [Audyssey] audyssey magazine?

2009-09-16 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Allan, That's a very good question. The last issue was do in June or July. However, Ron, the current editor of the Audyssey Mag, has been incomunicato. In fact, I've tried contacting him privately off list and all e-mails sent to him have been bounced with the message that that address is n

Re: [Audyssey] audyssey magazine

2009-02-19 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
age - From: "Ron Schamerhorn" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] audyssey magazine Hi Allan By subscribing to the magazine only list magaz...@audyssey.org Should subscribe you to the magazine only list.

Re: [Audyssey] audyssey magazine

2009-02-18 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi all, To subscribe to the magazine only list send a blank message to magazine-subscr...@audyssey.org and you should get an e-mail back from mailman asking you to confirm your subscription. Simply reply to the mailman confirmation e-mail and you will be subscribed. HTH. --- Gamers mailing lis

Re: [Audyssey] audyssey magazine

2009-02-18 Thread Ron Schamerhorn
Hi Charles I believe it's just a blank message to the list. HTH Ron - Original Message - From: "Charles Rivard" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] audyssey magazine Should we put "subs

Re: [Audyssey] audyssey magazine

2009-02-18 Thread Charles Rivard
rs Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] audyssey magazine Hi Allan By subscribing to the magazine only list magaz...@audyssey.org Should subscribe you to the magazine only list. HTH - Original Message - From: "Allan Thompson&qu

Re: [Audyssey] audyssey magazine

2009-02-18 Thread Allan Thompson
Greatly appreciated Ron, thank you. al - Original Message - From: "Ron Schamerhorn" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] audyssey magazine Hi Allan By subscribing to the magazine only list magaz...@

Re: [Audyssey] audyssey magazine

2009-02-18 Thread Ron Schamerhorn
Hi Allan By subscribing to the magazine only list magaz...@audyssey.org Should subscribe you to the magazine only list. HTH - Original Message - From: "Allan Thompson" To: "gamers discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 2:02 PM Subject: [Audyssey] audyssey magazine H

Re: [Audyssey] audyssey magazine

2006-06-30 Thread Richard Bennett
No Tom, I haven't gotten that e-mail about Monty being released. I will definitely check that out here in a few hours or so after I wake up a bit more, lol. Thanks for telling me bout that. I had thought that it must have been becauase people were talking about it and Chris told me that it had

Re: [Audyssey] audyssey magazine

2006-06-30 Thread shaun everiss
We havn't seen the mag out. The editor had computer issues last i Heard and no reports have come back on his progress. At 05:02 AM 6/30/2006, you wrote: >Hello listers, I just arrived back in town, I was gone for a week, >and some of my e-mails went missing somehow. I had my mom download >them

Re: [Audyssey] audyssey magazine

2006-06-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, Richard. No the mag still isn't out. However, Montezuma's Revenge Alpha 1 is if you haven't seen the release for it. Smile. Richard Bennett wrote: > Hello listers, I just arrived back in town, I was gone for a week, and some > of my e-mails went missing somehow. I had my mom download them a

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