On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 10:26 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <
bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 8:01 PM Geertjan Wielenga
> wrote:
> >...what comes closest to what
> > you're looking for is the Rat exclusions file...
>
> >
>
Hi,
On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 3:34 AM Justin Mclean wrote:
> ...What do other IPMC members think?...
I'm coming late to this discussion but I think it would have been
better to point to specific issues so people can reply in a more
concrete way.
Generally, I think it can be ok for podling
Hi,
On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 8:01 PM Geertjan Wielenga
wrote:
>...what comes closest to what
> you're looking for is the Rat exclusions file...
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/nbbuild/rat-exclusions.txt
...
And note that that file is mentioned in the
e cited my point #1 (if VP Legal says
it's a blocker then it's a blocker).
Ross
From: Justin Mclean
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 3:54 AM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Voting on releases with serious unaddressed issues
Hi,
> F
Hi,
> For the record, no. No. It was never simply called theft. These files were
> part of the donation received from Oracle. We did not add these files in
> any way in Apache and simply received them as part of the donation. We have
> now removed them, so that this kind of stupid accusation can
On Sun, 31 Mar 2019 at 05:51, Davor Bonaci wrote:
> The issue at hand is simply called theft,
For the record, no. No. It was never simply called theft. These files were
part of the donation received from Oracle. We did not add these files in
any way in Apache and simply received them as part
On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 7:49 AM Adrian Cole wrote:
>
> I'm excited about netbeans becoming an apache TLP, and also interested
> in learning if there are things in that process (beyond the photo
> snatching) other podlings like the one I am should be careful of.
>
Here it is:
The images have been deleted. The sample containing them has been deleted.
Of the millions of lines of code in Apache NetBeans, the deleted sample is
so completely unimportant that it is impossible to express its
unimportance. There isn’t even a metaphor I can think of to illustrate
this. Thanks,
It appears a jira issue was updated about the cat photo IP and what to
do about it. My 2p is park the cat thing there, give it a chance to
proceed, and let's move on.
I agree please email the author of the cat photo or find another cat.
This topic is boring and probably there are actual important things we
are defocused from when focusing so massively on this photo.
On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 10:51 AM Davor Bonaci wrote:
>
> The issue at hand is simply called
The issue at hand is simply called theft, and everyone (both inside and
outside the community) is most welcome to point it out and ask for it to be
fixed. We thank those individuals who point it out, whether in IPMC or
otherwise, and look for ways to address it as soon as possible.
Fixing this
Hi Ted,
> On Mar 30, 2019, at 2:22 PM, Ted Dunning wrote:
>
> On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 1:57 PM Craig Russell wrote:
>
>>
>>> copyright issues on the cute cat and rabbit photos [1] probably mean
>> that they cannot put that release in the ASF distribution area even if they
>> do get 3 +1s
On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 1:57 PM Craig Russell wrote:
>
> > copyright issues on the cute cat and rabbit photos [1] probably mean
> that they cannot put that release in the ASF distribution area even if they
> do get 3 +1s without legal and infra approval.
>
> We have to look at risk here. Is
Hi Justin,
> On Mar 30, 2019, at 2:06 PM, Justin Mclean wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>>> copyright issues on the cute cat and rabbit photos [1] probably mean that
>>> they cannot put that release in the ASF distribution area even if they do
>>> get 3 +1s without legal and infra approval.
>>
>> We have
Hi,
>> copyright issues on the cute cat and rabbit photos [1] probably mean that
>> they cannot put that release in the ASF distribution area even if they do
>> get 3 +1s without legal and infra approval.
>
> We have to look at risk here. Is there a risk that the owner of the images is
>
Hi Justin,
> On Mar 29, 2019, at 7:24 PM, Justin Mclean wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> The Netbeans RC is an interesting one as they:
> - Have made several releases before.
> - Have been given advice from the IPMC on serious issues and what to fix.
> - Looks like nothing has been done to correct those
Hi,
> Your are right to call me or on do it or get out, if I choose to champion or
> mentor another project here I will do it within that project. That is, as a
> mentor /champion I will ensure the project did not need the IPMC to vote and
> this this whole discussion would not be necessary,
Hi,
> +1. Indeed, this "looks like nothing has been done to correct these issues"
> is false, insulting, and misleading.
I'm sorry about that, I looked at the release and saw no changes from the last
review and wrongly assumed that previous feedback had not been discussed. I
should have looked
Hi -
> On Mar 30, 2019, at 12:01 PM, Geertjan Wielenga
> wrote:
>
> +1 Thanks for these sensible words and probably what comes closest to what
> you're looking for is the Rat exclusions file, i.e., these are the
> deviations in terms of licensing in relation to what most people expect
> from
+1 Thanks for these sensible words and probably what comes closest to what
you're looking for is the Rat exclusions file, i.e., these are the
deviations in terms of licensing in relation to what most people expect
from Apache projects and why things are fine despite that:
Personally, I’d appreciate it if everyone involved in this discussion decided
that all parties are equally correct and expanded the scope of what they were
paying attention to so as to dissolve any apparent contradictions.
All i know about this situation I’ve learned from this thread, but, for
On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 6:26 PM Wade Chandler
wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019, 22:34 Justin Mclean
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > The Netbeans RC is an interesting one as they:
> > - Have made several releases before.
> > - Have been given advice from the IPMC on serious issues and what to fix.
> >
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>
>
>
> From: Myrle Krantz
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 3:00 AM
> Subject: Re: Voting on releases with serious unaddressed issues
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>
>
>> On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 9:11 AM Ross Gardler wrote:
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On Fri, Mar 29, 2019, 22:34 Justin Mclean wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The Netbeans RC is an interesting one as they:
> - Have made several releases before.
> - Have been given advice from the IPMC on serious issues and what to fix.
> - Looks like nothing has been done to correct those issues.
>
> Now I
On Sat, Mar 30, 2019, 13:03 Ross Gardler wrote:
> Opinions were asked for. I gave mine.
>
> I have tried to do it before and been squashed repeatedly because my
> opinion is not broadly supported. I should not have said board must as it
> has been brought here recently and did not find support.
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Sent: Saturday, March 30, 3:00 AM
Subject: Re: Voting on releases with serious unaddressed issues
To: general@incubator.apache.org
On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 9:11 AM Ross Gardler wrote:
> As for not enough votes i refer you to Roy's suggestion on board@.
> Essentially votes don't need to
On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 9:11 AM Ross Gardler wrote:
> As for not enough votes i refer you to Roy's suggestion on board@.
> Essentially votes don't need to be from IPMC members.
>
Hey Ross,
A.) That was a suggestion and not a statement about how the incubator
currently operates. If you want to
:24 PM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Voting on releases with serious unaddressed issues
Hi,
> 1) If VP Legal or VP Infra says any of the issues are blockers then the
> podling cannot do a release
I guess they well need to clarify that then, but AFAIK an an ex VP leg
Hi,
> 1) If VP Legal or VP Infra says any of the issues are blockers then the
> podling cannot do a release
I guess they well need to clarify that then, but AFAIK an an ex VP legal has
said this, and VP infra has stated this for the exact issues mentioned in this
release.
> 2) If IPMC
community
then they won't be able to do a release so the conversation is moot
Ross
From: Justin Mclean
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 7:24 PM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Voting on releases with serious unaddressed issues
Hi,
The Netbeans RC
Hi,
The Netbeans RC is an interesting one as they:
- Have made several releases before.
- Have been given advice from the IPMC on serious issues and what to fix.
- Looks like nothing has been done to correct those issues.
Now I know we’re trying to be more lenient on releases but we still have
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