Re: [gentoo-user] Strange partition on USB stick

2011-10-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, 4 Oct 2011 00:27:50 -0500 Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 04 Oct 2011 04:39:45 Adam Carter wrote: If the data is important, I'd use ddrescue to create an image of the drive, then

[gentoo-user] gnubatch-1.4 make error [OT]

2011-10-04 Thread Marius Vaitiekunas
Hello, Maybe it is OT, but i am doing it on gentoo. I am trying to compile gnubatch-1.4 (http://www.gnu.org/s/gnubatch/). GCC-4.5.3, bison 2.4.3, flex 2.5.35. I get the following error message: cd build;make all make[1]: Entering directory `/home/gnubatch/build' gcc -O -g -Wall

[gentoo-user] Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Dale
Hi, Subject line says it pretty well. Is grub2 stable, who uses it and can you post your experience on the switching process? Was it difficult? Easy? Somewhere between? Thinking about switching. Get this over with before all the initramfs thingy kicks in. BTW, I still haven't got

Re: [gentoo-user] Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 04:49:56 -0500, Dale wrote: Subject line says it pretty well. Is grub2 stable, who uses it and can you post your experience on the switching process? Was it difficult? I use it on my netbook, which I admittedly don't boot more than a couple of times a month. It's

Re: [gentoo-user] Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Oct 4, 2011 5:10 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 04:49:56 -0500, Dale wrote: Subject line says it pretty well. Is grub2 stable, who uses it and can you post your experience on the switching process? Was it difficult? I use it on my netbook, which I

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Computers and mental/emotional health

2011-10-04 Thread Indi
On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 15:15:54 -0700 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Over the years I've found that the time I spend on the computer has a negative affect on my mental/emotional health. It seems to suck the life out of life and impair my ability to function in the real world. It's the

[gentoo-user] Problem build gconf

2011-10-04 Thread 4k3nd0
Hi Guys, i got a problem build gconf. The problem is somehow emake again o.O * Call stack: * ebuild.sh, line 56: Called src_compile * environment, line 3235: Called gnome2_src_compile * environment, line 2496: Called die * The specific snippet of code: * emake || die

[gentoo-user] gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org

2011-10-04 Thread Alex Sla
Hi Guys, i got a problem build gconf. The problem is somehow emake again o.O * Call stack: * ebuild.sh, line 56: Called src_compile * environment, line 3235: Called gnome2_src_compile * environment, line 2496: Called die * The specific snippet of code: * emake || die

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem build gconf

2011-10-04 Thread Willie Wong
On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 02:15:34PM +0200, 4k3nd0 wrote: i put the build log into pastbin: http://pastebin.com/CXEFY342 What is the version of pango you have installed? It may be related to this bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384779 W -- Willie W. Wong

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem build gconf

2011-10-04 Thread Alex Sla
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.eduwrote: On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 02:15:34PM +0200, 4k3nd0 wrote: i put the build log into pastbin: http://pastebin.com/CXEFY342 What is the version of pango you have installed? It may be related to this bug:

Re: [gentoo-user] Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 10/04/2011 06:16 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: On Oct 4, 2011 5:10 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk mailto:n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 04:49:56 -0500, Dale wrote: Subject line says it pretty well. Is grub2 stable, who uses it and can you post your experience on the

Re: [gentoo-user] gnubatch-1.4 make error [OT]

2011-10-04 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 10/04/2011 04:14 AM, Marius Vaitiekunas wrote: Hello, Maybe it is OT, but i am doing it on gentoo. I am trying to compile gnubatch-1.4 (http://www.gnu.org/s/gnubatch/). GCC-4.5.3, bison 2.4.3, flex 2.5.35. I get the following error message: cd build;make all make[1]: Entering directory

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem build gconf

2011-10-04 Thread Alex Sla
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Alex Sla 4k3...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.eduwrote: On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 02:15:34PM +0200, 4k3nd0 wrote: i put the build log into pastbin: http://pastebin.com/CXEFY342 What is the version of

Re: [gentoo-user] gnubatch-1.4 make error [OT]

2011-10-04 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 10/04/2011 09:00 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 10/04/2011 04:14 AM, Marius Vaitiekunas wrote: You can try exporting LIBTOOL='/usr/bin/libtool --tag=CC' before you emerge it. This is usually a Makefile problem, I'd file a bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/ Oh, it isn't in portage. It's

[gentoo-user] NAS for Windows - does any Wiki solution 'just work'?

2011-10-04 Thread Mark Knecht
I've got a 2 year old Gentoo machine that got patched together using a lot of small hard drives which worked fine for what I used the machine for 2-3 years ago but the machine isn't getting used much anymore. The processor, memory MB are all reasonably good - i5-661 4GB - but my laptop VM

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drives not detected in repeatable order.

2011-10-04 Thread Michael A. Koerber
On Mon, 2011-10-03 at 15:03 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-10-03, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: Just recently I've run in to problems because my hard drives are not detected in a

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel source servers compromised?

2011-10-04 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Nilesh Govindarajan cont...@nileshgr.com wrote: On Tue 04 Oct 2011 11:11:22 AM IST, Mick wrote: Fair enough, but chkrootkit is not the most maintained package.  Last version was released in July 2009.

[gentoo-user] Re: Hard drives not detected in repeatable order.

2011-10-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2011-10-04, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 12:03:47PM -0700, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote They have the advantage over UUID's in that you can set them and therefore can be human readable. Also, if you use a desktop environment, they look nice in file

[gentoo-user] Re: Hard drives not detected in repeatable order.

2011-10-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2011-10-04, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: You are right: for grub-legacy you need to use the old hd(x,y) thingy. Which i assume suffers from the same reassignment risk as the kernel's /dev/sdX naming that prompted this discussion. I don't know if that's true. I've never seen it

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel source servers compromised?

2011-10-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Nilesh Govindarajan cont...@nileshgr.com wrote: On Tue 04 Oct 2011 11:11:22 AM IST, Mick wrote: Fair enough, but chkrootkit is not the most maintained package.  Last version

[gentoo-user] Re: Hard drives not detected in repeatable order.

2011-10-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2011-10-04, Michael A. Koerber m...@ll.mit.edu wrote: I have found that use of LABEL=FOO in /etc/fstab doesn't always solve the problem of disks being reassigned during boot. That's because fstab isn't used during boot. What root= setting is passed to your kernel by your bootloader? Is

[gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2011-10-04, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 04:49:56 -0500, Dale wrote: Subject line says it pretty well. Is grub2 stable, who uses it and can you post your experience on the switching process? Was it difficult? I use it on my netbook, which I admittedly

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drives not detected in repeatable order.

2011-10-04 Thread Spidey
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:29, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.comwrote: On 2011-10-04, Michael A. Koerber m...@ll.mit.edu wrote: I have found that use of LABEL=FOO in /etc/fstab doesn't always solve the problem of disks being reassigned during boot. That's because fstab isn't used

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drives not detected in repeatable order.

2011-10-04 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-10-04, Michael A. Koerber m...@ll.mit.edu wrote: I have found that use of LABEL=FOO in /etc/fstab doesn't always solve the problem of disks being reassigned during boot. That's because fstab isn't used

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS for Windows - does any Wiki solution 'just work'?

2011-10-04 Thread Spidey
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:38, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: I've got a 2 year old Gentoo machine that got patched together using a lot of small hard drives which worked fine for what I used the machine for 2-3 years ago but the machine isn't getting used much anymore. The processor,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: On 2011-10-04, Neil Bothwickn...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 04:49:56 -0500, Dale wrote: Subject line says it pretty well. Is grub2 stable, who uses it and can you post your experience on the switching process? Was it difficult? I use it on my netbook,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drives not detected in repeatable order.

2011-10-04 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Grant Edwardsgrant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-10-04, Michael A. Koerberm...@ll.mit.edu wrote: I have found that use of LABEL=FOO in /etc/fstab doesn't always solve the problem of disks being reassigned during boot. That's because

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-10-04, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 04:49:56 -0500, Dale wrote: Subject line says it pretty well.  Is grub2 stable, who uses it and can you post your experience on the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drives not detected in repeatable order.

2011-10-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-10-04, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 12:03:47PM -0700, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote They have the advantage over UUID's in that you can set them and therefore can be human

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS for Windows - does any Wiki solution 'just work'?

2011-10-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Spidey spide...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:38, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP Years ago I tried this basic guide: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/quick-samba-howto.xml I don't remember why but I didn't have much luck with it.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drives not detected in repeatable order.

2011-10-04 Thread bill.longman
You can use whatever you want whenever you want. Exactly. Just start naming them different birds or your favorite genus and species. Just pick something and stick with it. I don't know if you have enough room for Anas_platyrhynchos, but you get my drift.

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS for Windows - does any Wiki solution 'just work'?

2011-10-04 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:43, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Spidey spide...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:38, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP Years ago I tried this basic guide:

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange partition on USB stick

2011-10-04 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 04 Oct 2011 06:27:50 Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 04 Oct 2011 04:39:45 Adam Carter wrote: If the data is important, I'd use ddrescue to create an image of the drive, then run testdisk over that image to see

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Computers and mental/emotional health

2011-10-04 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 04 Oct 2011 04:58:00 Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 10/03/2011 10:19 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: If I may add: try a cup of normal (i.e. non-decaf) coffee about 1 hour after you start using the computer. Ok, but how do you survive the first hour? Coffee is a stimulant so it

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange partition on USB stick

2011-10-04 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 04 Oct 2011 07:53:47 Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tue, 4 Oct 2011 00:27:50 -0500 Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 04 Oct 2011 04:39:45 Adam Carter wrote: If the data is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drives not detected in repeatable order.

2011-10-04 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 04.10.2011 16:47, schrieb Spidey: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:29, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com mailto:grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-10-04, Michael A. Koerber m...@ll.mit.edu mailto:m...@ll.mit.edu wrote: I have found that use of LABEL=FOO in /etc/fstab

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange partition on USB stick

2011-10-04 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:58 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 04 Oct 2011 06:27:50 Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 04 Oct 2011 04:39:45 Adam Carter wrote: If the data is important, I'd use ddrescue to

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS for Windows - does any Wiki solution 'just work'?

2011-10-04 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Oct 4, 2011 8:41 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: I've got a 2 year old Gentoo machine that got patched together using a lot of small hard drives which worked fine for what I used the machine for 2-3 years ago but the machine isn't getting used much anymore. The processor,

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS for Windows - does any Wiki solution 'just work'?

2011-10-04 Thread kashani
On 10/4/2011 8:43 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: Yes. Samba is the basis of the link above, and I figure it's going to be the underlying technology that does the work. I was just wondering if there was a more user oriented, possibly GUI based app that did all the dirty work sort of like the CUPS web

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS for Windows - does any Wiki solution 'just work'?

2011-10-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: SNIP If you want to rebuild it totally, why not go the simpler route of installing 'soft appliances' like FreeNAS, OpenFiler, or Nexenta? Rgds, Thanks for the suggestions. I didn't know about any of these. Some comments:

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS for Windows - does any Wiki solution 'just work'?

2011-10-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:01 AM, kashani kashani-l...@badapple.net wrote: On 10/4/2011 8:43 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: Yes. Samba is the basis of the link above, and I figure it's going to be the underlying technology that does the work. I was just wondering if there was a more user oriented,

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS for Windows - does any Wiki solution 'just work'?

2011-10-04 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Oct 5, 2011 12:10 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: SNIP If you want to rebuild it totally, why not go the simpler route of installing 'soft appliances' like FreeNAS, OpenFiler, or Nexenta? Rgds,

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS for Windows - does any Wiki solution 'just work'?

2011-10-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Oct 5, 2011 12:10 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: SNIP If you want to rebuild it totally, why not go the simpler route of installing

[gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2011-10-04, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-10-04, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 04:49:56 -0500, Dale wrote: Subject line says it pretty well. ??Is grub2

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange partition on USB stick

2011-10-04 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 04 Oct 2011 17:18:18 Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:58 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 04 Oct 2011 06:27:50 Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 04 Oct 2011 04:39:45 Adam Carter

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-10-04, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-10-04, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 04 Oct

Re: [gentoo-user] gnubatch-1.4 make error [OT]

2011-10-04 Thread Marius Vaitiekunas
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 10/04/2011 09:00 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 10/04/2011 04:14 AM, Marius Vaitiekunas wrote: You can try exporting LIBTOOL='/usr/bin/libtool --tag=CC' before you emerge it. This is usually a Makefile problem,

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange partition on USB stick

2011-10-04 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 04 Oct 2011 17:18:18 Paul Hartman wrote: You can create a real partition table on that device and reformat, if you want. (Note that some flash-based devices suffer degraded performance if you repartition or

[gentoo-user] GTK+ HTML5 broadway

2011-10-04 Thread Michal Sroka
Hello, I would like to run my gtk applications over web-browser using Alexander Larsson's gtk+ broadway option http://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2010/11/23/gtk3-vs-html5/ http://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2010/11/23/gtk3-vs-html5/ 1 Have you got any experience with this on gentoo? 2 How can I specify, if

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, 4 Oct 2011 08:08:16 -0700 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: At first glace, grub2 looks like a minature Unix installation whose purpose is to boot a bigger Unix installation.  It's got it's own init system and it's own set of init scripts. That it's not true. It

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 09:53:07 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Grant Edwards wrote: On 2011-10-04, Neil Bothwickn...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 04:49:56 -0500, Dale wrote: Subject line says it pretty well. Is grub2 stable, who uses it and can you post your

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread pk
On 2011-10-04 20:56, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Replying two mails in one... Dale: Is grub2 stable, who uses it and can you post your experience on the switching process? I use it (1.99-rc1, which is gone from Portage) for booting my UEFI (with GPT partition table) motherboard until I can get

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 4 Oct 2011 08:08:16 -0700 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: At first glace, grub2 looks like a minature Unix installation whose purpose is to boot a bigger Unix installation.  It's got it's own

Re: [gentoo-user] GTK+ HTML5 broadway

2011-10-04 Thread Albert W. Hopkins
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 21:39 +0200, Michal Sroka wrote: Hello, I would like to run my gtk applications over web-browser using Alexander Larsson's gtk+ broadway option http://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2010/11/23/gtk3-vs-html5/ http://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2010/11/23/gtk3-vs-html5/ 1 Have you

[gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2011-10-04, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s can...@gmail.com wrote: That it's not true. It connects to whatever init system do you have (OpenRC, SysV, systemd, Upstart), I'm curious: what if you don't have one? ??I use grub-legacy to boot stuff other than Unix. When I said it connects, I mean

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-10-04, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s can...@gmail.com wrote: That it's not true. It connects to whatever init system do you have (OpenRC, SysV, systemd, Upstart), I'm curious: what if you don't have one? ??I use

[gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2011-10-04, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: No that's a completely different issue. But the warped thinking that produces it is exactly the same. QOTW! -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! I need to discuss at

[gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2011-10-04, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-10-04, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s can...@gmail.com wrote: That it's not true. It connects to whatever init system do you have (OpenRC, SysV,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-10-04, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-10-04, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s can...@gmail.com wrote: That it's

[gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread walt
On 10/04/2011 07:53 AM, Dale wrote: Could this fix the mess with /usr and /var having to be on / or a initramfs? I'm using grub2 because it fixes a different problem that has always needed an initramfs--but not the recently lamented separate /var problem. I have an outboard ESATA disk that I

[gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2011-10-04, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s can...@gmail.com wrote: Then any boot loader will need to call something to start it. Understand this: any Linux/Unix init system (systemd, SysV, Upstart, OpenRC) is simply a program... that the Linux kernel itself executes. I know. What I don't

[gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2011-10-04, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: The answer is to let grub2 find the correct disk by checking the UUID of the *partition table* on each disk, and then load the boot sector from only that disk without even knowing the /dev/sd* name or the BIOS disk number. I'm assuming/hoping that

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange partition on USB stick

2011-10-04 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 04 Oct 2011 20:36:06 Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 04 Oct 2011 17:18:18 Paul Hartman wrote: You can create a real partition table on that device and reformat, if you want. (Note that some flash-based devices

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-10-04, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s can...@gmail.com wrote: Then any boot loader will need to call something to start it. Understand this: any Linux/Unix init system (systemd, SysV, Upstart, OpenRC) is simply a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
On Tuesday, 4. October 2011 14:14:24 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-10-04, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: On Tuesday, 4. October 2011 14:14:24 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-10-04, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
On Tuesday, 4. October 2011 14:46:07 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: On Tuesday, 4. October 2011 14:14:24 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote:

[gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2011-10-04, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-10-04, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s can...@gmail.com wrote: Then any boot loader will need to call something to start it. Understand this: any

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-10-04, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-10-04, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s can...@gmail.com wrote: Then any

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 4 Oct 2011 14:35:42 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: I've only used it on Ubuntu, and maybe it's just Ubuntu's implementation -- but it was both complicated and difficult. There are 10X as many files, and to change anything you edit a whole set of configuration files and run a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Dale
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Michael Schreckenbauergrim...@gmx.de wrote: Correct, the *kernel* executes it. Quoted from an earlier mail in this thread: That it's not true. It connects to whatever init system do you have (OpenRC, SysV, systemd, Upstart) The

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
El 04/10/2011 17:09, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com escribió: Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Michael Schreckenbauergrim...@gmx.de wrote: Correct, the *kernel* executes it. Quoted from an earlier mail in this thread: That it's not true. It connects to whatever init

[gentoo-user] Help!

2011-10-04 Thread Lavender
Hi, everybody! I installed gentoo according to Gentoo Handbook , then I login gentoo . But I found that I couldn't use wpa_supplicant for scanning netcard device failed . I think that means the netcard module not loaded, so I type lsmod and the output have only one line-Modules , according to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drives not detected in repeatable order.

2011-10-04 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 05:59:57PM +0200, Florian Philipp wrote You cannot use labels with the root= parameters. That was provided as some kind of hack a few years ago but has been removed since. You either need to use an initramfs for labels or resort to UUIDs. See