[gentoo-user] Re: Blacklisting all packages from overlay except a specific group and version

Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > It didn't look like it to me at all. From the man page: > >Examples: > ># match anything with a version containing , which can be used in ># package.mask to prevent emerge --autounmask from selecting live ># ebuilds >=*/*-**

[gentoo-user] Re: EAPI-6 dev-python ebuilds

James wrote: > > works for a specific file, but I want to parse the entire /dev-python > portion of the portage tree. Is there a more robust tool? eix -c --eapi 6 --and -C dev-python

[gentoo-user] Re: eix showing me weird results

»Q« <boxc...@gmx.net> wrote: > On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 10:50:45 + (UTC) > Martin Vaeth <mar...@mvath.de> wrote: > >> Except generating the metadata by yourself there is not much you >> can do. > > Is it `emerge --regen` which will do that for me? Not really

[gentoo-user] Re: Failed to set XATTR_PAX markings

the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > > grep CONFIG_TMPFS_XATTR /usr/src/linux/.config > CONFIG_TMPFS_XATTR=y Does your compilation happen on a temp file system? You can configure XATTR for each file system type individually.

[gentoo-user] Re: eix showing me weird results

»Q« wrote: > >> $ grep KEYWORDS /usr/portage/metadata/md5-cache/dev-perl/Pango-1.224.0-r1 >> KEYWORDS=~alpha ... >> >> $ grep KEYWORDS /usr/portage/dev-perl/Pango/Pango-1.224.0-r1.ebuild >> KEYWORDS="alpha ..." This seems to be a race issue in the gentoo infrastructure:

[gentoo-user] Re: eix showing me weird results

»Q« wrote: > eix-sync Which method do you use for syncing (rsync, git, ...)? > I've run 'emerge --metadata' and 'eix-update' The requirement to run emerge --metadata seems to suggest that you use git? If this is true, better use egencache to generate the metadata in the

[gentoo-user] Re: All sorts of digest verification failures

cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > I have thinmanifests=true as specified in some news item or post, I > think this was a mandatory change some time ago using rsync. If you really use rsync/webrsync and not git, this is unlikely: The file containing this line

[gentoo-user] Re: All sorts of digest verification failures

Alan Mackenzie wrote: >!!! /usr/portage/sys-apps/busybox/busybox-.ebuild >!!! Got: 8493 >!!! Expected: 8580 Do you use the default (rsync) for syncing, or have you changed the method? I have the above claimed filesize (8493), but the Manifest I obtained from rsync

[gentoo-user] Re: All sorts of digest verification failures

Neil Bothwick wrote: > > I deleted the busybox directory from the tree then ran emerge --sync. > The error is still there You have the same files that I have. Unfortunately, only now I actually did: $ grep busybox- Manifest EBUILD busybox-.ebuild 8580 [...] ??? I

[gentoo-user] Re: All sorts of digest verification failures

Simon Thelen wrote: > I sync from git and none of my Manifests track the ebuilds, so this > could be a thing. No. git has (probably, I didn't check) thin-manifests = true in its metadata/layout.conf, but for rsync this should not be the case for security reasons. I

[gentoo-user] Re: persistent /run/* ownership/permissions

Grant wrote: >> >> The way to do it nowadays would be by placing a file with the content >> d /run/munin 0775 munin nginx >> into /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d (if done by the distribution) or into >> /etc/tmpfiles.d (if this is only needed for your special setup). > > Will do. Is

[gentoo-user] Re: persistent /run/* ownership/permissions

Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 07/10/2015 18:27, Grant wrote: >> I have to chown munin:nginx and chmod g+x on directory /run/munin/ >> after every reboot. The munin list suggests altering the initscript >> but is there a better way? > > There are ways, but I wouldn't call

[gentoo-user] Re: dynamic deps, wtf are they exactly

James wrote: >[cr > DAG's All this can work only if you reflect the complete history in the DAG. Such approaches had been discussed and eliminated as unrealistic: You do not want to keep the history forever; the data will always grow and eventually be too much.

[gentoo-user] Re: THE SCREAM.

wrote: > Alan Grimes wrote: > >> You know that famous Van Gough painting? That kinda haunts you because >> it's absolutely silent... > > "The Scream" is painted by Edvard Munch. Van Gogh (not Gough!) is well > known for his paintings

[gentoo-user] Re: dynamic deps, wtf are they exactly

Rich Freeman wrote: > > Sure, but the portage team can really only dictate the upstream > defaults of portage, not tree policy. As I understand, they intend to remove non-dynamic deps (if they agreed to not implement it properly for sub-slots, this makes sense). So we are not

[gentoo-user] Re: dynamic deps, wtf are they exactly

Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > With dynamic deps, portage will scan (that is, execute) all of the > ebuilds for installed packages that could affect the dependency graph. This is not correct. This data is already stored in metadata/ (or in /var/cache/edb, depending on the backend),

[gentoo-user] Re: dynamic deps, wtf are they exactly

James wrote: > > Basically from my point of view, something like TUP [1] is needed so > that at dependency check time you only list files that need > attention (linking, loading, compiling etc) thus speeding up the > update processes for the Package Manager (portage).

[gentoo-user] Re: dynamic deps, wtf are they exactly

Rich Freeman wrote: > There really wasn't much loud objection when the proposal came up > again last week This does not mean that everybody agreed. However, all arguments had been exchanged before, so repeating them would just have been pointless: Eventually a decision had to

[gentoo-user] Re: installation failure

jfmxl jf...@sdf.org wrote: I wrote a coupla days ago, using the guest interface at the website ... I do not know what you mean by guest interface. One right place for your support question would be the gentoo forum Installing Gentoo: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewforum-f-14.html but the kernel

[gentoo-user] Re: Some update yesterday broke my system - which one

Helmut Jarausch jarau...@skynet.be wrote: It turned out that something has installed /lib/udev while removing the symlink /lib - /lib64 on my machine. Therefore /lib did contains nothing but udev This sounds like a very serious bug of portage or of the ebuild; but it did not happen here. It

[gentoo-user] Re: systemd-224 Look out for new networking behavior

walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: Oops, journalctl tells me that systemd-networkd is segfaulting repeatedly during boot. systemd has become very picky on cflags; e.g. -DNDEBUG and friends cause strange behaviour and segfaults.

[gentoo-user] Re: Resizing a FAT partition?

meino.cra...@gmx.de meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: I took a look at parted and the resize command Use a parted-3.0. With parted-3.0 the maintainers considered removing the most important functionality of the prorgram a development. parted-2.4 (e.g.) has a resize command which is working (in the

[gentoo-user] Re: zsh: not so bad?

Alon Bar-Lev alo...@gentoo.org wrote: I do not want to write completion for every command out there. For most commands there already do exist completion functions. Essentially, it is only your own scripts for which you have to do it, and this does not take a lot of time when you write the

[gentoo-user] Re: zsh: not so bad?

Alon Bar-Lev alo...@gentoo.org wrote: Only issue I could not find a solution to is tab completion after '=', for example: xxx --file=TAB This will not complete files, while it will be nice if it does. For standard commands, it works as it should. For instance, tar --file=TAB chmod

[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Martin Vaeth mar...@mvath.de wrote: This is not true, either: Although finally bash took some of the features of zsh (arrays, regular expression matching, etc.) there are still many features missing in bash (extended globbing, many

[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: bash vs. POSIX, as bash tried to ignore long existing rules just because the bash maintainer did not understand them. Are there really several? I know only one such example: bash insists on compound commands ({ ... } or ( ... )) for

[gentoo-user] Re: zsh: not so bad?

Andrew Tselischev andre...@farlander.net wrote: On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 06:52:35PM -0700, walt wrote: [...] http://wiki.redbrick.dcu.ie/mw/Account_Customisation_(zsh) Note that this does not activate all features e.g. concerning completion: You can have files displayed in your custom ls colors

[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: I agree. Being able to customise is good, but the defaults should be sensible and appealing to new users. Yes, but not only new users but also not breaking expectations of old users are important - it is a subtle balance, and shells tend to be

[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote: I really don't have time to learn arcane settings anymore. That's why it is good that you can adapt the shell completely to your needs: My opinion is that the computer must adapt to *my* habits and not vice versa. If it doesn't work out of the box I

[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

cov...@ccs.covici.com cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: I cannot see, so I use speakup or orca to read the screen I have no experience whether zsh is appropriate for this. Certainly zshrc-mv is not written with this case in mind, and probably you should refrain from using zsh-syntax-highlighting or

[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote: I tried it, for exactly 10 seconds. My home/end keys didn't work. The default configuration is horrible, and they won't change it since compatibility with stone age and all zsh features switched off is a design goal of the defaults. I already wrote on

[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: As a scripting language, Bash is probably better This is not true, either: Although finally bash took some of the features of zsh (arrays, regular expression matching, etc.) there are still many features missing in bash (extended globbing, many variable

[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/07/15 18:00, Gevisz wrote: bindkey '^[[7~' beginning-of-line # Home (xterm) bindkey '^[[8~' end-of-line# End (xterm) lol... are these guys serious? It's 2015... ... and yet the way of handling

[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: In one sub-thread we've so far managed to cover: Bash vs Zsh Vim vs Emacs Perl vs Python not to forget: POSIX vs Bash What are your thoughts on KDE, kernel modules or USE=3D-*? ;-) Substitute kernel modules by Gnome (incl. systemd, policykit) and

[gentoo-user] Re: eix

James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: use to match the arg string against all three: (1) gentoo tree /usr/portage (2) the /var/lib/layman/ overlays I had installed and manage with layman (3) my /usr/local/portage local ebuild placed in /usr/local/portage/ Now, only option (1) shows the

[gentoo-user] Re: Profile listings

James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: There is no dir '/var/portage' on my system. Yet this command works fine: PORTAGE_PROFILE=/var/portage/profiles/default/linux/arm/13.0/armv7a eix -c --system Strange, to say the least. Not at all strange: Again, PORTAGE_PROFILE points to a

[gentoo-user] Re: Profile listings

James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Martin Vaeth martin at mvath.de writes: James wireless at tampabay.rr.com wrote: # PORTAGE_PROFILE=/usr/portage/profiles/arch/arm/armv7a/eapi This is not a directory. [...] How do I determine [...] Choose the directory to which you would put

[gentoo-user] Re: Profile listings

James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: # PORTAGE_PROFILE=/usr/portage/profiles/arch/arm/armv7a eix -c --system No matches found. Obviously, this profile contains no @system packages. Which appears natural for an embedded profile...

[gentoo-user] Re: Profile listings

James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: # PORTAGE_PROFILE=/usr/portage/profiles/arch/arm/armv7a/eapi This is not a directory. If PORTAGE_PROFILE is not a readable directory, eix falls back to the symlink

[gentoo-user] Re: Profile listings

Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: PORTAGE_PROFILE=/usr/portage/profiles/$PROFILE eix -c --system The 4 is an interloper. Yep, a typo: Next key to the E when one finger presses shift... Although once PORTAGE_PROFILE was supposed to become a variable in make.conf, it seems to not have

[gentoo-user] Re: Profile listings

James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: This is why I was looking for a 'tool' or script that would allow me to easily browse the default package listings for the different arch types with a default profile. If you only want to see the @system set of $PROFILE, use

[gentoo-user] Re: so many TeX packages ...

hw h...@gartencenter-vaehning.de wrote: texdoc labels This seems to be for pre-defined labels like you get them in A4 size? I have no experience with it; for my purposes a simple manual setting was always enough. There are of course more (La)TeX packages for labels, probably most already

[gentoo-user] Re: so many TeX packages ...

hw h...@gartencenter-vaehning.de wrote: there are quite a few TeX/LaTeX packages available. emerge texlive with USE=latexextra print labels on label printers texdoc labels

[gentoo-user] Re: writing man pages (gentoo conventions)

James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Pod leaves me with too many choices. Can you narrow it down? pod (and pod2*) is part of perl. Very likely it is already installed. man perlpod (or perldoc pod::perlpod if the former does not work on your system). eix latex returns too many choices. What

[gentoo-user] Re: writing man pages (gentoo conventions)

James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: So instead of my spew of ascii information files, I'm now composing 'man pages' mostly using txt2man. If you want to avoid learning *roff, there is also e.g. pod from perl which gives you simple basic markup functionality and can output in man page format

[gentoo-user] Re: CFLAGs for kernel compilation

Andrew Savchenko birc...@gentoo.org wrote: That's why kernel makes sure that no floating point instructions sneaks in using CFLAGS, you may see a lot of -mno-${intrucion_set} flags when running make -V. So it should be sufficient that the kernel does not use float or double, shouldn't it? I

[gentoo-user] Re: And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: If you're willing to wait an hour, it might be able to come up with a list of ways you could resolve a conflict, but basically all of them will be wrong, eg suggestion #1, uninstall everything. Really, this is a flippant response to a serious issue,

[gentoo-user] Re: gcc-5.0 ?

Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote: Now that 5.1 is in Portage (masked), you should keep in mind that emerging it will result in the 5.1 libraries being used, even if you keep 4.9 (or 4.8) as the default compiler. If you should really get problems with this, you can manually remove the

[gentoo-user] Re: And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

meino.cra...@gmx.de meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: A novice asks the master Emerge: Is there Zen also in every upgrade, which will serve to Gentoo? Did the novice ask the correct question about the life, the world, and everything? Your mantra should be emerge -NaDu @world (--with-bdeps=y in

[gentoo-user] Re: And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 06:49:09 + (UTC), Martin Vaeth wrote: nvidia legacy drivers? In the latter case you are doomed... I also had to throw out recently an nvidia card because of this. Was nouveau not an option. No. It seems, nouvau is lost without

[gentoo-user] Re: And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

meino.cra...@gmx.de meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: But the same script states: [I] x11-base/xorg-server Available versions: 1.12.4-r4(0/1.12.4) [m]1.15.2-r2(0/1.15.2) The [m] means that you masked newer versions of xorg-server locally. If you remove that local mask, the blockers should be

[gentoo-user] Re: Is this a new kernel bug? Or not.

walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: it tries to read from the floppy and prints an error message to the console No. The kernel does not do this. It is either udev or some other part of your init system which does this. mount at a bash prompt, and then spams the screen with errors about /dev/fd0.

[gentoo-user] Re: Is perl broken?

Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote: Moreover, I didn't check before the rebuild, but after the rebuild there is no 5.20.1 in @INC. Sure about this? I checked this, of course. But now I realize that the path is *added* to @INC (even to the perl -V output!) when I re-create it...

[gentoo-user] Re: Is perl broken?

Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote: Minor updates (5.x.y - 5.x.y+1) do not need any rebuilds or reinstallations of modules. This is at most partially correct: At least, after the update, the install directories change; here from /usr/lib/perl5/{vendor_perl,}/5.20.1 to

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's future directtion ?

hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: Martin Vaeth: hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: With rsync I believe you can exclude categories: http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/TIP_Exclude_categories_from_emerge_sync That is uninformed. I think he is right. check the --depth option of git. You can

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's future directtion ?

hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: With rsync I believe you can exclude categories: http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/TIP_Exclude_categories_from_emerge_sync That is uninformed. I think he is right. check the --depth option of git. You can even clone specific tags with --depth=1. Every tag

[gentoo-user] Re: Oddity in eix database

Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: The following installed packages are not in the database: virtual/-MERGING-perl-CPAN-Meta-YAML portage generates such a directory or file in /var/db/pkg when it is merging the package. When portage exits (even uncleanly), this entry should be

[gentoo-user] Re: Moving the portage tree to /var

Mike Gilbert flop...@gentoo.org wrote: I'm not sure if the portage team has decided what to do long-term. The long-term plans are to drop PORTDIR and PORTDIR_OVERLAY completely, the reason being that it is not flexible enough: With repos.conf you can specify details for every repository, you

[gentoo-user] Re: Moving the portage tree to /var

Michael Orlitzky m...@gentoo.org wrote: I haven't bothered with it either, I really like being able to do: PORTDIR=$REPOS/gentoo-x86 PORTDIR_OVERLAY= emerge -1 whatever Why don't you do emerge -1 whatever::gentoo Moreover, you can use PORTAGE_REPOSITORIES for temporary overrides of

[gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

On Tuesday, August 05, 2014 06:33:59 AM Martin Vaeth wrote: When you are at it you should probably also encrypt the communication schedule-0.15 is finally able to use encryption, hence the current mild security risks will practically vanish, even if listening to a world-wide port. schedule

[gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: No, it wouldn't, since jobs just finishing and wanting to report their status cannot do this when there is no server. You would need a rather involved protocol to deal with such situations dynamically. It can certainly be done, but it is not something which

[gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: With the kind of schedules I am working with (and I believe Alan will also end up with), restarting the whole process from the start can lead to issues. Finding out how far the process got before the service crashed can become rather complex. I am not

[gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: These schedules then also can't be restarted from the beginning when they stop halfway through without risking massive consistency problems in the final data. So you have a command which might break due to hardware error and cannot be rerun. I cannot see

[gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: So you have a command which might break due to hardware error and cannot be rerun. I cannot see how any general-purpose scheduler might help you here: You either need to be able to split your command into several (sequential) commands or you need

[gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: Depends on the specific requirements. If you want: In a sense, most you require can be done with my mentioned schedule tool, although perhaps the usage is not in the way you expected. I reorder your points for a clearer explanation: - have schedules

[gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: A useful addition to your schedule-tool would be to store the scripts in a way that makes editing simpler Since it is an arbitrary script in an arbitrary language, I think this is not in the scope of this project to do this. In most cases I used it so

[gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

in beta testing phase: https://github.com/vaeth/schedule/ You can install it from the mv overlay (available over layman).

[gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: https://github.com/vaeth/schedule/ What are the features it currently has already This is hard to answer, since at a first glance the whole thing does not even look like a scheduler: It looks more like a means to communicate with some server, but after

[gentoo-user] Re: eix: error while reading from database: end of file

meino.cra...@gmx.de meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: while trying to use eix I got constantly this error: error while reading from database: end of file It seems that your eix database was truncated (out of disk space?). Have you tried to recreate it with eix-update?

[gentoo-user] Re: Portable Gentoo (Pen Drive Linux)

Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: Dropping the aliases into ~/.zshrc is the easy option, that way to get your aliases and a superior shell. That's what I've done so far. If you have a complex bash configuration file which you want to keep, source your .bashrc (or whatever you use)

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

Andrew Savchenko birc...@gmail.com wrote: Another challenge is to make dependency resolution parallel It's a challange but won't solve the problem: On fast processors portage's speed is not so much a big issue. Moreover, the factor you can obtain this way is in the (unrealistic) best case at

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

Greg Turner g...@malth.us wrote: On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:55 AM, Martin Vaeth mar...@mvath.de wrote: On fast processors portage's speed is not so much a big issue. What kind of processor have you got, and where can I get one? I run gentoo on i3 (double core), c2 (double core), athlon

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: I was thinking: is it feasible, to precalculate the dependency tree? I thought that's what the portage cache does, as far as it can. Well, AFAIK, portage needs to kind of simulate everything going on in an ebuild to get the list of

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: Many defaults gentoo sets do not have anything to do with default codepaths upstream has tested. I disagree: The USE-enabling in ebuilds usually follows upstream. IIRC there was even a policy for gentoo developers which strongly suggested this. As above,

[gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: To go back to the OP's original point, having hostnames on the tabs also makes it obvious which sessions I have open. If you use an appropriate prompt as I have recommended (which modifies [hard] status line) you see the sessions in the tabs of tmux -

[gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: I haven't used tmux for a while, I tried it and went back to screen, but does it really show the titles of all sessions? On the hardstatus line you see in tmux all sessions with their numbers and their hardstatus line. [More precisely, you see all

[gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: I have my lxde/openbox environment mostly setup. One thing I miss is feature rich tabbed terminal session. I suggest that you try tmux (or screen) - this is far superiour to multitab since you can easily also put it to the background or access it remotely.

[gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: you know - I don't give a rat's ass about 'pig' or not, because: I have enough ram. Ram is cheap. 16gb of DDR 1600 ECC costs what? 160€? Cheap. What kind of argument is this? I do not consider it cheap to spend 160 bucks only to waste

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: On 01/27/2014 12:26 AM, William Hubbs wrote: No, starting with USE=-* is very dangerous. That's nonsense imo No, William is completely right. and I use that setup on multiple servers/routers without any issues. No one doubts that it is *possible* to

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: USE=-* ${USECPU} ${USEOTHER} If you want to look at it that way, what I've really done is to replace the default USE flag set with my own defaults ... *including* the defaults specified in individual ebuilds. About the default flags in profiles one may

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 27/01/2014 13:59, Tanstaafl wrote: If the problem is really this potentially serious, why start from scratch, when Paludis is already very mature? Is it pure politics (someone just doesn't like Ciaran)? No-one likes to admit it, but I think

[gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: I suggest that you try tmux (or screen) - this is far superiour to multitab since you can easily also put it to the background or access it remotely Screen and tabs are different solutions to different problems. When working with multiple SSH sessions

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub2 and softlevels

Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: properly; now all I need to do is make grub use the plain old 80x25 Thanks, but I'm using a manually written grub.cfg Then it is completely trivial: Just do *not* insert code which sets graphics like insmod {vga,vbe,gfxterm}, loadfont unicode,

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub2 and softlevels

Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: Now, my question is how to have grub2 offer me a choice of kernels from all those that are present in /boot (a separate ext2 partition). Not only that, but pass different softlevel selectors to them. In my opinion you should decide for either

[gentoo-user] Re: Can I have separate distfiles directory for my locally created files

Kfir Lavi lavi.k...@gmail.com wrote: I'm doing some development and have a local portage tree. Can I have also local distfiles directory? In theory, there is something like RO_DISTDIR, but recently there were some bug reports that it is not working. You can also use trickyfetch and the related

[gentoo-user] Re: do subslots improve user-experience?

Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de wrote: One of those questions stands out to me right now: the one on understandable error messages. As some recent posts to this ML demonstrate, it seems to be one area where portage is visibly falling (staying?) behind right now. They remind me of the type of error

[gentoo-user] Re: do subslots improve user-experience?

Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/11/2013 09:46, Martin Vaeth wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: You don't have to keep explaining subslots to me But not every reader knows the details - this is not a private conversation. Then please [...] describe

[gentoo-user] Re: do subslots improve user-experience?

Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/11/2013 14:54, Martin Vaeth wrote: (I am guessing this only from the outputs which are posted): When portage detects that it cannot resolve something after backtracking, it dies. That by itself is good info. The conflict that portage

[gentoo-user] Re: do subslots improve user-experience?

Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: You know what? I'm not convinced. What I'm seeing is a rather large towering edifice of complexity to deal with a problem that is not the general case. I find it funny that perhaps you did not realize that you repeated the main argument *in favour

[gentoo-user] Re: do subslots improve user-experience?

Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: It seems to me that you didn't read the whole post fully, and have cherry-picked a part that you think bolsters your position. I do not think that I have a position here. Subslots solve some problem. If they cause inconveniences like portage

[gentoo-user] Re: do subslots improve user-experience?

Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: You don't have to keep explaining subslots to me But not every reader knows the details - this is not a private conversation. What I have maintained all along is that I don't see the solution as tested to be production-ready It has been in ~arch

[gentoo-user] Re: do subslots improve user-experience?

Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: No, no problem whatsoever. emerge @preserved -rebuild is my preferred method, I find it vastly superior to sub-slot operators which It is neither superior nor inferior. It is an unrelated mechanism which will have less to do once subslot

[gentoo-user] Re: do subslots improve user-experience?

hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--ignore-built-slot-operator-deps=y A different user interface would be preferrable [...] Could you open a bug report for portage and make a properly formulated proposal about this? Done. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490350

[gentoo-user] Re: scripted iptables-restore

Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: Port knocking is cute, but imparts no extra security. It does, for instance if you use it to protect sshd and sshd turns out to be vulnerable; remember e.g. the security disaster with Debian. A better, secure way to achieve the same goal is with

[gentoo-user] Re: scripted iptables-restore (was: Where to put advanced routing configuration?)

Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: Thanks, Martin! I was about to create my own preprocessor, but I'll check out yours first. If it's what I had planned, may I contribute, too? Sure, patches are welcome.

[gentoo-user] Re: scripted iptables-restore

William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: If you are going to go to this bother ... why not use shorewall, create When I checked for scripts creating rules, none fulfilled my needs. (I do not know whether I checked shorewall at this time). For instance, instead of dropping most packets, I

[gentoo-user] Re: scripted iptables-restore

Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 10/14/2013 07:49 AM, Martin Vaeth wrote: Using yet another service with possible holes to protect a sshd? In this case, I would like port knocking at least for this OpenVPN. The sensitive parts of OpenVPN are audited regularly, and it uses SSL

[gentoo-user] Re: scripted iptables-restore

Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Like passwords, these sequences should better not stay the same for too long... Forced changing of passwords I agreee: To do this to protect *other* users will not work. It's a different thing if you use it for protection of your own data...

[gentoo-user] scripted iptables-restore (was: Where to put advanced routing configuration?)

5. You can't script iptables-restore! Well, actually you can script iptables-restore. For those who are interested: net-firewall/firewall-mv from the mv overlay (available over layman) now provides a separate firewall-scripted.sh which can be conveniently used for such scripting.

[gentoo-user] Re: Where to put advanced routing configuration?

shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: 1. The iptables-restore syntax is uglier and harder to read. I don't get this - the syntax is [...] What am I missing or how is this uglier? Argument separation (e.g. if you

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