Seth Cohn wrote:
Rather scary how a mere discussion of the legalities elicts such a
furor, another chilling effect illustrated... when you can't discuss
the issues (and use illustrations such as links of the sort of things
that are under fire), what's left but to cave in and give up?
Point
Seth Cohn wrote:
Rather scary how a mere discussion of the legalities elicts such a
furor, another chilling effect illustrated... when you can't discuss
the issues (and use illustrations such as links of the sort of things
that are under fire), what's left but to cave in and give up?
Point
On 3/27/07, Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rather scary how a mere discussion of the legalities elicts such a
furor, another chilling effect illustrated... when you can't discuss
the issues (and use illustrations such as links of the sort of things
that are under fire), what's left but to
On 3/25/07, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/25/07, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem is, someone needs to stand up and say 'this ain't
right'.
This hearkens back to the wireless phone carrier subthread I
accidentally started.
As long as people continue to
On Mar 26, 2007, at 09:04, Tom Buskey wrote:
As a TiVo owner and former DirecTV subscriber, I couldn't figure
out why
people would get a DirecTiVo instead of a stand alone.
I'm building my MythTV box after having a Dish DVR-508 for about 3-
ish years. The two advantages it had were:
1)
As a TiVo owner and former DirecTV subscriber, I couldn't figure
out why people would get a DirecTiVo instead of a stand alone.
Dual tuner, and prefect quality all the time. Even if you have a
stand alone tivo and you set it for the highest quality there will be
some loss.
They're
As a TiVo owner and former DirecTV subscriber, I couldn't figure
out why people would get a DirecTiVo instead of a stand alone.
I had/have both, I was an early tivolutionary, telling people how much
it changed my life, and encouraging them to get one... and also had
Comcast's (crappy) DVR for
On 3/26/07, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As a TiVo owner and former DirecTV subscriber, I couldn't figure out why
people would get a DirecTiVo instead of a stand alone.
As everyone else has said, better quality. The DTiVo units stored
the digital MPEG stream right from the satellite
I download each and every show I wish to watch (and I want for nothing
I can't get),
getting not only high quality recordings, but with commercials
already removed.
Finding new shows is trivial (thanks to many diverse sites devoted to
tracking the shows),
and with thousands of others doing
Seth Cohn writes:
These days, I do without cable OR satellite. Considering the high
prices I paid for both, I miss neither. But how do you watch TV? I
hear you asking... Antenna? No.
I download each and every show I wish to watch (and I want for
nothing I can't get), getting not only
On 3/26/07, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/26/07, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As a TiVo owner and former DirecTV subscriber, I couldn't figure out why
people would get a DirecTiVo instead of a stand alone.
As everyone else has said, better quality. The DTiVo units stored
I'm curious...is there a model in which you'd consider paying for
content? The model could have reasonable prices and fair/non-existent
copy-protection or whatever else you'd like.
If it's stuff that I can get OTA with an antenna (If I didn't live in
the sticks), then no, I wouldn't pay for
On 3/26/07, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/26/07, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Of course, my next TiVo will be MythTV. Anyone got a way for them to
play
.TiVo files directly? Or script Myth to run tivodecode to convert to
mpg
before playing? :-)
Are you speaking of
On 3/26/07, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/25/07, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/25/07, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem is, someone needs to stand up and say 'this ain't
right'.
This hearkens back to the wireless phone carrier subthread I
Kevin D. Clark writes:
I'm curious...is there a model in which you'd consider paying for
content? The model could have reasonable prices and fair/non-existent
copy-protection or whatever else you'd like.
First, it has to be a model in which there is content worth paying
for. I own a
On 3/26/07, Seth Cohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I download each and every show I wish to watch ...
Just a reminder, this list is publicly archived. One may want to
avoid boasting of one's illegal activities in such a forum.
For that matter, it just occurred to me that, as the legal owner of
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 10:16:05AM -0400, Travis Roy wrote:
I download each and every show I wish to watch (and I want for
nothing I can't get), getting not only high quality recordings,
but with commercials already removed. Finding new shows is
I'm transition to this solution, but the
Replies to a number of emails:
I'm transition to this solution, but the legality of it is debatable.
For free-to-air programs, I suspect it would be very hard to make truly illegal.
For other programming, I'd still look to the Sony time-shifting
decision and ask what the difference is between
I download each and every show I wish to watch (and I want for
nothing I can't get), getting not only high quality recordings, but
with commercials already removed.
I'm curious...is there a model in which you'd consider paying for
content?
Yes, it's called Netflix.
For
Seth Cohn wrote:
For free-to-air programs, I suspect it would be very hard to make truly
illegal.
Seth:
I am not a lawyer and don't believe you are, either. I'd suggest we
allow the courts to determine what is and is not legal.
For other programming, I'd still look to the Sony
I don't recall the giving it to a friend portion of the decision,
and
the slippery slope of two friends, four friends, putting it on the web
site, popping it up on BitTorrent likely crosses the line, somewhere.
I agree with this.. Even when people were saying making mix tapes for
friends
Ah, but the sites do a great job of filtering just for such a thing.
For example, [OMITTED} is a feed that doesn't list...
STOP.
You are pointing out feeds of shows whose legality is questionable at
best. This is in violation of the terms of use of this list, this group,
and likely the TOS of
On 3/26/07, Seth Cohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Frankly, the Bono copyright extension was a
perversion of justice, and I'd be glad to prove it to a jury in a
court of law.
As I said, *I am totally uninterested in campaign speeches*.
Let me spell this out for you:
*** DO NOT DISCUSS ILLEGAL
On 3/26/07, Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To be fair, I do think copyright issues are something that is up for
discussion. After all, it does effect Free/Open Source Software quite
a bit.
If you or anyone else wants to discuss what law or policy *should*
be, and why, go right ahead.
*** DO NOT DISCUSS ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES ON THIS LIST.
I understand your point, and will comply with your wishes, despite my
_opinion_ that it's not illegal in the first place.
pissing match with the MPAA.
Since we were talking television and not ever movies, the MPAA isn't
an issue,
Rather scary how a mere discussion of the legalities elicts such a
furor, another chilling effect illustrated... when you can't discuss
the issues (and use illustrations such as links of the sort of things
that are under fire), what's left but to cave in and give up?
Now the question is, if
On 3/26/07, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Frankly, the Bono copyright extension was a
perversion of justice, and I'd be glad to prove it to a jury in a
court of law.
As I said, *I am totally uninterested in campaign speeches*.
Clarification: I am uninterested in campaign speeches
One link to just show that some court decisions seem to indicate that
lists like this one are protected from the content expressed by its
members No, I am not a lawyer, neither are you. Feel free to err
on the side of caution if you so wish, I understand that. I'm merely
pointing out that
To use a really bad analogy: If you want to argue that homicide
should not be illegal, I don't have a problem with that (as the server
operator). But I would object to anyone giving instructions on how to
kill others and get away with it, or links to same. I'd also frown
upon anyone claiming
Seth,
There is a not-so-fine line between the issues of copyright, DMCA, etc.
being discussed and the HOWTO of performing illegal acts being
discussed, particularly when people get fast and loose about saying I
did this and I used this. Even if you are careful about what you
say, others may not
[I'm spooling up Seth Cohn's posts and consolidating them into a
single reply. Order of comments has been rearranged for (supposed)
clarity. An errors in editing are mine and mine alone. Actual
results may vary. Participating locations only.]
On 3/26/07, Seth Cohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/26/07, Jon 'maddog' Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think that most of us on this list will agree that the recent rulings
of our government sponsored by the recording and broadcast industries
are Draconian by any measure.
I absolutely agree, here.
You might find less agreement on how
I note you posted a link to
a comment in a blog which is a link to a different blog entry which is
a link that results in an HTTP 404 error.
heheh, I didn't notice the 404 error. Ok, citing a 404 page is pretty
poor as a defense. Never mind in my best Emily Latella voice
You were asked not
On 3/26/07, Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now the question is, if Ben goes and edits the archives to remove the
link.. Is that destruction of evidence?
After a subpoena has been issued, I'm pretty sure it is.
Before then, I'm not sure.
Either way, I'm not going to modify the
On 3/26/07, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why not just do a one-time batch tivodecode of the .tivo files to
.mpeg files? That's what I did.
Anyone recommend a good mpeg editor once you have them converted so I can
take out the $#^%# commercials?
On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 01:26 -0400, Thomas Charron wrote:
If only that applied to Sat TV such as DirecTV. *pout*
I have never had Sat TV, but it seems to me that if you could get the
timing information of when the programs were going to be shown, then you
could record those programs even if
On 3/25/07, Jon 'maddog' Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 01:26 -0400, Thomas Charron wrote:
If only that applied to Sat TV such as DirecTV. *pout*
I have never had Sat TV, but it seems to me that if you could get the
timing information of when the programs were going to
Analog is the word there. :-) I was referring to HD TV via
DirecTV. And unfortionatly, the only solution which is coming out for
this is lead by Microsoft in a Microsoft/DirecTV partnership.
Many years ago I told a friend of mine at IBM that Microsoft has no
partners other than
On 3/25/07, Jon 'maddog' Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Analog is the word there. :-) I was referring to HD TV via
DirecTV. And unfortionatly, the only solution which is coming out for
this is lead by Microsoft in a Microsoft/DirecTV partnership.
Many years ago I told a friend of mine at
I have a feeling that much of the stream decryption
will happen in Windows.
A, Winmodems, I almost forgot about them!
Then Microsoft started producing Microsoft mice and keyboards, and
when I pointed out that Microsoft was no longer just a software company,
he just laughed (but it
On 3/25/07, Jon 'maddog' Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a feeling that much of the stream decryption
will happen in Windows.
A, Winmodems, I almost forgot about them!
Some nightmares we can just never erase from our minds.
Then Microsoft started producing Microsoft mice and
On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 11:33 -0400, Thomas Charron wrote:
HD video capture cards
which can take composite inputs?
Google knows all, and there seems to be a whole series of solutions,
although they all seem to be pretty high-priced.
There seemed to be a few cards that did the whole thing, and
It is just a huge amount of data.
As I re-read my answer, it occurred to me that the concept of this being
a huge amount of data flies in the face of my normal rants about real
computing.
I should re-state this to say that for the average homeowner or desktop
PC it is a huge amount of data
Analog is the word there. :-) I was referring to HD TV via
DirecTV. And unfortionatly, the only solution which is coming out for
this is lead by Microsoft in a Microsoft/DirecTV partnership.
I continue to thank the gods that TV has nothing worth watching which
also benefits from HD. Of
On Mar 25, 2007, at 10:53, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote:
After all, what better piece of
hardware to buy than one that was purposefully designed to run the
software you got from Microsoft
A few weeks ago I decided to play with the meme, what if Microsoft
really *isn't* incompetent and this came
On 3/25/07, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem is, someone needs to stand up and say 'this ain't
right'.
This hearkens back to the wireless phone carrier subthread I
accidentally started.
As long as people continue to subscribe to the service as it is now,
DirectTV Inc has
On 3/25/07, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just thought of something. Are there any HD video capture cards
which can take composite inputs?
You mean component video input (three cables, typically colored red,
green, blue; carrying Y, Pr, Pb signals). Composite video (single
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 13:16:12 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Freeman) wrote:
Analog is the word there. :-) I was referring to HD TV via
DirecTV. And unfortionatly, the only solution which is coming out for
this is lead by Microsoft in a Microsoft/DirecTV partnership.
I continue to
On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 14:35 -0400, Ben Scott wrote:
On 3/25/07, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem is, someone needs to stand up and say 'this ain't
right'.
This hearkens back to the wireless phone carrier subthread I
accidentally started.
As long as people
On 3/25/07, Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Of course, they'll eventually stop broadcasting
NTSC format video at all, and then I'll be screwed.
Eventually? Try February 2009 ...
... nothing about this law actually requires that the cable companies stop
offering an analog tier on their
On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 14:55 -0500, Bill Mullen wrote:
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 13:16:12 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Freeman) wrote:
Analog is the word there. :-) I was referring to HD TV via
DirecTV. And unfortionatly, the only solution which is coming out for
this is lead by
Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote:
Now if a rogue media outlet started making good media (movies,
songs, etc.) available at reasonable prices, playable on any device and
also did not block you from recording them for personal use, that might
give some competition. On the other hand they probably could
On Mar 24, 2007, at 19:02, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote:
Make sure you watch the video, it is a scream.
I try not to be too impulsive, but this video makes me want to wipe
my work-in-progress MythBox and start over. Anybody here try it yet?
-Bill
-
Bill McGonigle, Owner Work:
On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 20:42 -0400, Bill McGonigle wrote:
On Mar 24, 2007, at 19:02, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote:
Make sure you watch the video, it is a scream.
I try not to be too impulsive, but this video makes me want to wipe
my work-in-progress MythBox and start over. Anybody here try
On 3/25/07, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/25/07, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just thought of something. Are there any HD video capture cards
which can take composite inputs?
You mean component video input (three cables, typically colored red,
green, blue; carrying
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On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 22:49 -0500, Nigel Stewart wrote:
Internet Radio has been sentenced to death. -- Doc Searls
The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems
will slip through your fingers.
--- Princess Leia Organa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Leia_Organa
http://www.linuxmce.com
Make sure you watch the video, it is a scream.
md
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Make sure you watch the video, it is a scream.
thud
(that was the sound of my jaw dropping to the floor)
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If only that applied to Sat TV such as DirecTV. *pout*
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Make sure you watch the video, it is a scream.
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