GL responds:
If it is not 'soglem casteists' then why go to the Bishop of Goa for redress?
Since when does an institution get involved in some private, isolated
attitudes and behavior?
Do you guys want to make nebulous statements and then run away from you non-
specific statements?
Do I presume t
was rampant among Goans. Obviously he had his eyes and ears closed.
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> What you have put in quotes from its very English cannot be the words of
> Jerome D'Souza but rather your's or someone else's interpretation of
Jerome&#
Hi Cornel and Mario,
You guys and others can continue to stick to the academic model which you have
built about Goans and continue to expand on the discrimination in our society.
But I would agree with Cornel that, Goans (including me) can certainly improve
on our intermingling skills beyond ou
Hi JC,
I am not sure you answered any of my questions.
None of them were trick questions.
They were posed because I do not know the answer to them.
Can you or any one answer the question? especailly
Do you think same-sex pedophiles is a sexual-behavioral extension of adult
homosexuality or i
Looks like the present Congress Govt is pretty much in lock-step with the prior
Goa govt of the BJP about IFFI and the MOPA airport! Yes, a few supposed
"pre-conditions" by Mr. Rane. This would suggest, that about 80-90% of Goa's
elected representatives are in favor of these projects.
Where d
Goans" is worth persuing it.
Kind Regards, GL
Philip Thomas
By any chance did you mean to say "cyber" Goans instead of "native" Goans at
the end of this particular line? Why indeed is there such a big disconnect
between cyber Goans and native Goans? Might be worth discussin
I have been following some of the posts on Dinesh D'Souza. As has been said,
whether one agrees with his philosophy or not, one needs to give him credit for
his success within the "Think Tank" at a high level of America's social policy
makers. As a Goan community, we should be glad to have mem
Ms. O'Leary takes exception to Mr. Correia's negative description of the
book "Bloody Foreigners" based on the title without reading the book. My
reaction to the title of the book was similar to Mr. Correia. And I was
surprised that Cornell DaCosta brushed aside the language of the title by
l
The Goan discussion on "East Indians" has be interesting. Now that we are
through with all the old derogatory terminologies used to describe "Indians"
the issue is what is going on now and where do we go from here?
Others will/should call us by the name we seek to be addressed by and how we
add
My reading of Newman's writings is: There are too much of "opinions" and
stories (kaneos) and too little analytic and statistical facts on Goa, its
people and its life. Perhaps this is what anthropology is!
My reading of Figueiredo's writings is that he gives too much credit to the
Portuguese
I read Wendell Rodricks' article (and other posts) on this topic with interest
and CONCUR ON SOME points with all of them. There are many areas where things
are easier said than done. While much of what is written in targeted to the
Diaspora Goan (and that is good), Goan Diasporas cannot come
If the information in the article below is true and I have no doubt it is, then:
Congratulations and Thank you Kavish Kamat and Anil Sastry for your article.
Congratualtions to native Goans for that progress.
How come that article appeared in Hindu and not in a Goan paper?
How come the story below
use going over the lots of woulda, coulda, shoulda.:=))
Kind Regards, GL
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My reading of Newman's writings is: There are too much of "opinions" and
stories (kaneos) and too little analytic and statistica
Hi Carmo and Jose,
I fully agree with the following sentiments.
But the Goan youth need some mentors and role-models.
Thus, they will get the message that in spite of being a minority, Goans can
excel.
No more 'EXCUSES' that we cannot achieve becasue of favoritism.
Our motto should be, "Goans can
Hi Eugene,
I skimmed through your article on the above subject and came across a reference
to an issue I recently raised.
Here are some clarifications.
I am not requesting the Goan organizations to push / promote my or other Goan
books. All I am requesting (and have done so in the past) is
Hi Carmo,
Kitem munta rre? Saiba bogos! Poster Boy for ABC?
>From your resume, it appears "I snapped a Marlin" as they say in Indian
Harbour Beach, FL.
When can I come to take a picture of myself with the Khoro Nitz Goenkar
himself?
Not to commit the same mistake, I will leave your post untouc
The most famous GOA stands for is Gulf of Alaska.
That's lesson 101 for every sailor and Pacific fisherman. :=))
Gulf of Alaska is also important for those cruising the northwest
GOA is also important for those in the oil tanker business
Kind Regards, GL
Jorge/Livia de Abreu Noronha
From: Tony
Hi Oscar,
I do not recollect reading that post or the URL. But it would be worth
posting it again.
I empathize with you with the feeling of lack of support from the Goan
community.
But as a quick response, if there are any Goans who seek some advice, they can
follow the dialogue on cyberGo
Hi Savika,
I have not seen your posts before on any other thread. Your initial post
received the usual "hammer and nail" response. I hope you get my zest. From
your recent response, you have weathered the hammers; and the head of the nail
refuses to budge. So I guess, you are committed and s
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That's likely, because Cornel is giving the Konkani idiom a literal English
translation.
That is however not fair to any native language which should be able to hold
on and use its own colorful colloquialism.
That's like
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Hi Marlon,
Since you specifically asked for my review on "another confused work of
fiction, also known as the bible", I thought I should respond. As I'm sure you
know, I did not write the article about the "fact and fiction" on the Da Vinci
Code. I just forwarded an article from FOX news rela
One of the major issue in the Indian news right now is access to education
(albeit it is only one aspect of preferences). In fact, we should be happy
that in India people want to be educated. So the government and the University
Commission should NOT be restrictive on the expansion of education
Hi Santosh,
I assume your questions are genuine and you are seeking some answers. I am not
into some "gotcha" exercise here and I trust you are not into some esoteric
discussion. Thanks for asking me about the CONTEMPORARY issues that the
"Church thinkers" are involved with. This, rather tha
Hi Elisabeth,
I am glad you found your thinking cap among all your Khatli Potlis.:=))
OK guys, now straighten up! Ms. Hutton is back.:=))
Missed Ya!!!
I am definitely finished with Dan Brown story, though not the thread. This
especially after watching a week of Da Vinci Code (or something like)
Hi Eddie,
Thanks for keeping us posted on Edna Fernandes' book Holy Warriors. I along
with many Goans are delighted her book has made it on to the best seller's
list. Hopefully many people are reading her three-year research material and
are gaining much wisdom. Do you think the controversy o
Since I working on your assignment on "I am back" post, I will let your other
students / devotees respond to this post. Likely the guys who will respond to
it will be thinking straight.:=))
Kind Regards, GL
Elisabeth Carvalho:
No this is not the controversial topic I promised but in the intere
Hi Elisabeth,
It looks like your thinking cap was in the microwave getting super-charged.:=))
I have to state at the outset that I am not as smart in connecting the dots
(real and imaginary) as you. Perhaps you are a member of Mensa.
I could not find the decode words as Dan Brown found in
ind it hard to put down.
I hope Goans continue to support Goan authors. In 2003, Goa Sudharop arranged
with Gilbert Lawrence to have his book distributed at the North American
Reunion. Without incurring too much additional time on their already limited
volunteer time and resources, Goan
organi
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the secret to AR's skill at curling is finally uncovered.
ABOUT THE AUTHORS
Meena and Gilbert Lawrence make a wife-husband writing team. They were born in
Bombay (Mumbai), India, where they completed their postgraduate studies. They
in, Italy, will no doubt draw world attention to curling. After reading
On Thin Ice, the sport will be even more enjoyable.
ABOUT THE AUTHORS
Meena and Gilbert Lawrence make a wife-husband writing team. They were born in
Bombay (Mumbai), India, where they completed their postgraduate studies. They
It is not my intent to embarass or enter into a controversy with this prolific
writer.
But this author (and other Indian scribes) may be better served to be more
focused (in their writing) and less verbose.
I sometimes to the same thing. Only to have the editor of a newspaper or
journal respon
Hi Carmo,
Glad to hear that you and your family weathered the recent storm of Katrina
which hit Florida. And your intellectual lifeline - computer and e-mail
connection to the outside world is intact.
Your "B--a B--t" reference had me and my wife ROTFLMAO. I am sure you know,
this is not a
Hi Victor,
I could not read the attachment that may have attached to your posting.
However if you will bear with me, I would like to respond to what the headline
of your post suggest.
Hurricane Katrina was a natural disaster exacerbated by human miscalculations.
It realy does not matter what o
Last week, I saw a couple of posts on assisting Goans in the three states
affected by the hurricane disaster. On my return, I gleamed through the posts
in cyber-Goa to see NO FURTHER dialogue on this subject - surprising and
disappointed!
I was hoping to see some issues surface, specifically:
Goans living on the east coast of Canada and USA can save themselves from going
to Munich, Germany for the Oktoberfest.
Attend the FREE Oktoberfest just south of Albany, at Hunter Mountain, New York
on the weekend of October 1 and October 8.
Great German music, dancing, food, arts and crafts an
Hi Tony,
Thanks for responding to my post on the above subject. Beyond the
superficial, we agree a lot. We both emphasize the need to maintain strong
family and community ties, which as you have shown really helps in the time of
a crises. So, if one lives in Paradise of Toledo, Ohio, or in
Hi Tony,
Thanks for your response. I studied the issue of Diaspora Goans and their
associations.
With all due respect, your post is a bit contradictory.
The contradictions and my comments are below following the relevant sections.
Kind Regards, GL
Tony Barros: (TB)
Your last posting on the abov
Wendell Rodricks and Margaret Mascarenhas and others:
Read your pleas with sympathy.
Well written article with some good suggestions.
Constructive, with the outlining of feasible and available solutions.
This may be the lightening rod that awakens native Goans.
Another suggestion for native Go
Hi Eustaquio,
I read the selected abstraction from the novel and found nothing connecting the
passages to the title "Reliving the Portuguese terror."
Am I missing something?
Both you and the author tell us that this is a novel (and not a historical
book).
So what is the message of your post and
Many posts have been written on this subject. None that I read, quoted the
total number of flights to land / take off from Dabolim. Most airports with
one run way should be able to land a plane every 15 minutes - AT LEAST. So A
MINIMUM OF 240 planes a day CAN USE THE AIRPORT between 6 AM and
IN GOA and how
where they identified. Or is Crypto-Jews just a big word to confuse "supurlem
Goenkars" like me. :=))
Kind Regards, GL
Henrique Salles da Fonseca:
Gilbert Lawrence is right, the abstract has nothing to see with the title.
Furthermore, the most of the inquisitors in Goa
It is not my intent to opine on Goa's Airport issue. This appears to be
consuming Goans both in the native land and in the Diasporas. Yet this issue
and a few others about Goan attitude to Goa's government intrigues me.
Goans need to remember that Goa and India is a DEMOCRACY. But more import
arise if novels shouldn't exist.
In my opinion, it is very important that novelists inform their readers that in
his scripts there is a frontier between reality and fiction and it is the
mission of readers to discover where that frontier stays..... it is much more
easy to be a novelist.
Hi Philip,
I was hoping someone would respond to your interesting comment. But since no
has done so, let me take your bait.
Goans can stay in their balcao contemplating the "three-ring circus" in
government in Goa and India. Yet in the short span of about 40-60 years, Goa
and India have made
Hi Philip,
Sorry to burst your bubble, even though that was not my intention. Please do
not take it personally. I hope your attitude is not how "Goanet works" and yea
that's a pity. The intention of my post is to encourage Goan posters to write
hard facts that are more educational and less opi
Hello, Goa's recognized authority from the Navy,
To begin with let me congratulate you for being a rare breed of very sucessful
Goans. I hope you are invited as chielf guest at many Goan events as you can
be a real role model for our Goan youth.
Thanks for your response and information. As yo
Hi Vivian and others,
Perhaps you-all missed my post (written shortly after Wendell's plea) on
goanet. My suggestion is what Mahatma Gandhi would likely have done. No
speeches, no letter writing, no posts. Just ACTION.
I had suggested EVERY Sunday, at 2:00 PM, Goans led by Wendell and / or
Looks like this is a good book about Goa and Goans.
After the "bhaile" does the research and presents the facts, many smart Goans
may want the "outsider" to even come up with the solution and the "magic"
formula.
Of course the magic formula would help - as another solution / topic (from
outs
contemporary fictional novel written by Meena
Lawrence and Gilbert Lawrence has just been released in the U.S. by Booklocker
Publishers. The hero, Atul Reddy is from Mumbai. Among the many support stars
in the novel is Joseph Fernandes. There is a conversation in Romi Konkani when
the hero returns back to
arm of Mumbai.
The golden past of New York State.
And enjoy the competitive sport of Curling.
ON THIN ICE by
Meena Lawrence & Gilbert Lawrence
Published by Booklocker.com, Inc.
ISBN 1 - 59113 - 826 - 4
URL link at http://www.booklocker.com/books/2194.html
Kind Regards, GL
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space is OK without references.
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I had a great satisfaction doing so, and learnt a lot in the process of making
my power-point presentation.
You are also likely to receive the following comments from your listeners as I
did.
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As a matter of interest, I couldn't tell from your long post(s) whether you
have seen the controversial film The DaVinci Code or are planning to do so.
From: "Gilbert Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> It looks like your thinking cap was in the microwave getting
> su
The author of the following post "agrees" with me. Yet there is little in the
first paragraph of the post with which I agree. That makes a bulletin board
interesting. The fact that any institution or government or country last for a
long time suggest that it was / is valuable, useful, productiv
Every Goan is passionate about Goa!
Every other resident of any other place is passionate about the place they
live.
The difference is most other successful people and communities do something
about their passion and channel their Passion into ACTION.
Now that one has identified the problems
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Hi Mario,
Thanks for your long response how "you got dragged" kicking and screaming onto
this topic while you were peacefully "minding your own business" and planting
your spring flowers.
The next time I am caught in this situation, my response to them would likely
be, "It's all right to sit o
Santosh's post makes interesting reading and in some ways is thought provoking.
His response as an atheist / agnostic to my post about: What's the Purpose to
life?; and What happens after death", was interesting. It was short and what
one would expect from an atheist / agnostic - Nothing, Nyet,
Hi Marlon,
Can you provide me a copy of my post where I an "denying that Hindu temples
were destroyed during Portuguese rule in Goa"?
Thanks in anticipation.
Kind Regards, GL
-- From: Marlon Menezes
Gilbert for his part believes that the Catholic Church can do no wrong to the
To those who are superstitious and belive in the End-Times, the number 666 is
ominous.
Tomorrow is that date on the calendar.
Kind Regards, GL
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Yesterday's US national TV program the Nightly Business Report had a news
program about Indian companies buying companies abroad.
The reporter claimed that in 2005, Indian companies spent 100 billion dollars
buying foreign companies.
These were mainly - IT companies, consumer products and hote
Hi Cornel,
Thanks for "coming to the source" since you have not read what I have written.
Yes, you and others have misconstrued me.
Please repeat my request to Marlon to post the specific quote and the entire
context of the quote if any.
As now the virulent anti-Catholic Goans are grasping for
The "Goa importing poverty" thread evolved in a very enlightening and civil
manner into market economies. I thank both Elizabeth and Mario for keeping it
intellectual. Yet both (and the rest of us) would agree that anything good
(policies, regulations, laws) left to itself and taken to its ext
my
post (the last part of the post).
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Retaining walls in Church
Gilbert Lawrence:
If you were building a house for yourself, (as I did) would you want a wall of
an old house (of uncertain building materials) maintained and be a small
component of the new house? And run the risk of
Hi Cornel,
Thanks for your question. Your query of physician migration to UK or USA refers
to another example of lack of innovative planning in India in the 1970's and
1980' and perhaps even now. Much of the migration would be reduced if the
medical schools and medical planners expanded and en
Hi Cornel,
To be "BUILT ON TOP OF" is what the English language says. And this was
precisely the basis for the Babri Masjid controversy which generated much
violence, loss of lives and property, and other costs in India a few years ago.
The temple-related violence had spread to other states i
Hi Tony and Floriano,
I agree with you-both about the importance of English language. The importance
of the language is for the students and their parents and others interested in
the next generation of Goans.
Goan Catholics do a good job of sometimes wanting it both ways. They insists
the Ca
For perhaps every "true fact" of the Middle Ages there are many of "Dan
Brown's" accounts, analysis, opinions and conjectures.
Recently I was reading a well-written account on the discrepancy between the Da
Vinci's Last Supper painting and the true account of the event (Passover
supper) per Jewi
My son-in-law (ex-Bombayite and ex-Manipal engineering graduate) is a past
graduate of Harvard Business School (HBS), Boston. As such he is a member of
their alumni and I get to see the HBS Alumni bulletin.
In the June '06 issue of the magazine the cover is blazoned with "INDIA GOES
GLOBAL" wi
I am not sure that regular disclaimers by the moderators and producers of this
bulletin board can protect them in addition to the poster from, "It's not
uncommon for users to ridicule, harass or insult those who disagree with them."
Individuals who have a pattern of such posts, expose themselves
Hi Cornel,
This is a response to some of your comments in the two recent posts on this
thread. Both your posts have statements which appear to be confusing. In
themselves, some may be true statements, but they (the various facts) are not
connected.
As I stated previously and discussed about tw
Hi Marlon,
I read what I have written, and compared it to YOUR descriptions /
interpretations of what I wrote.
It indeed does NOT give me confidence to rely on what you claim you saw.
In fact your spin on my writings is doing wonders to your credibility, and is
really making my point.
Perhaps yo
Hi Cornel,
I will assume that the following is the British way of saying, "I stand
corrected".:=))
Now if we can only get the other Goan anti-Catholics on the same page as you, I
will have done my "missionary work".
Pray, please tell us where do you keep reading this Goan anti-Catholic
propagan
Re: The destruction of Hindu Temples to build Churches
This post should be called: Revision class on Goa's history!
Hi Marlon,
In your last post you claimed some historical facts. You did so with much
confidence (to prove me wrong!). Obviously as a smart individual, you would
not be making a f
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tently anti-Christian on the grounds that he is
really doing Christians a favor by "exposing their insecurities".
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Hi all!
This would be a great project for Goa World Day for this year! The
organizers of the Goa World Day a
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A. Veronica Fernandes,
Kuwait.
Great speech!
Now tell us three things that Goanetters and those settled abroad can
do! No speeche please!
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Dear Edgar,
With your background and access to information, you could a draft a
letter for all Goan residing in US to send to their US Senators and a
copy t
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The discussion on this subject (not surprisingly heated after all we are
Goans!) was very interesting (occasionally childish). This is proven by
this co
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Just some more statistics which were not previously provided by Gabe and
Lily. As we are talking of national and international GDP!
In Goa as per the pub
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