How do you accomplish this and still keep goodwill with the customer?
4. It's better to take MORE time in the design stage to get it right,
then having to go back and re-engineer the entire product.
5. All aspects of the design and code have to be traced to requirements,
if it isn't in a requireme
On 8/10/05, Greg Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I notice that there is a new edition out (the 5th) of Andrew
> Tanenbaum's excellent book "Structured Computer Organization". Does
> anyone know what has changed in the new edition?
WOO HOO!
Damn, I am a dork.
http://vig.prenhall.com/catal
On 8/10/05, Gregory Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The first law of software is that nothing is ever released when "it
> was supposed to [be]".
>
> The second law of software is that people who consistently release on
> time cut corners to do it.
>
> The caveat to the first law is that so
On 8/10/05, Maury Pepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With either, it depends on variables, some known, some not. I
Generally, I divide the market into "Broadband" and "Everything Else".
Within the broadband, it's all pretty much the same, once it's in and
stable. At that point, the biggest dif
On 8/10/05, smcphelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...
We cannot share the import functionality with
> anyone as that would be a violation of our IA with VistA Imaging.
I don't understand. If one has an IA with VistA imaging, then one is
not allowed to share code?
Kevin
---
If you are talking about netwoking for CPRS, then latency is the big
issue, far outweighing bandwidth issues. CPRS chatters back and forth
to the server, so latency times are multiplied many times over,
leading to sluggish responce.
Kevin
On 8/11/05, Mike Lieman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8
We all know how protective the VistA Imaging people are. I cannot share
anything I obtained because of the IA. Maybe legally I can. But I cannot
jeopardize our relationship with Silver Springs. So we take the most
conservative approach. The import API was released as a patch to the MAG
package
I think a bigger issue is VPN. These may not be the specific
protocols, but consider running IMAP and LDAP over a VPN (TCP or
UDP). For Internet mail, I use a combination of POP (at least right
now) and IMAP without using LDAP. But I do need to be able to connect
to Exchange, and I'm guessi
Greg,
I think you confuse me with one who understands... :-) I got lost in
the initial-rrhea again. What advantages would one have using "IMAP"
over a VPN.
Just for the record, I do know what VPN,TCP,UDP,POP,FTP,HTTP mean.
But I'm fuzzy on IMAP,LDAP.
:-)
Kevin
On 8/11/05, Gregory Woodhous
I understand the need to protect one's business investments. But it
was my understanding that the entire VI package was FOIA -- its just
that one would need to be careful not to cross the FDA in
implementations.
So the "import API" should be open source, and the "VI background
processor" should
All of this was very well documented in the Chaos Report. If
interested, check out
http://dimsboiv.uqac.ca/~sboivin/C2005/8INF814_Ete05/raw/CHAOS_1994.pdf.
smcphelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 08/11/2005, 02:01:22 PM:
> How do you accomplish this and still keep goodwill with the customer?
>
One other thing.
I believe that the majority of cable companies ban the user from running
any type of server on their residential accounts.
If you get a non-Bell DSL provider, most allow servers and even provide
static IPs on residential accounts.
At 10:24 PM 8/10/2005, Greg wrote:
Does
Steve, I must say my experience mirrors yours at least in the medical
software business. I think the domain of medicine is so broad, and so
complex, and still so reliant on the skills and knowledge of clinicians,
that it remains very non-deterministic, and will always be that way.
Plus, medicine c
On 8/11/05, Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One other thing.
>
> I believe that the majority of cable companies ban the user from running
> any type of server on their residential accounts.
>
> If you get a non-Bell DSL provider, most allow servers and even provide
> static IPs on residential ac
On 8/11/05, Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greg,
>
> I think you confuse me with one who understands... :-) I got lost in
> the initial-rrhea again. What advantages would one have using "IMAP"
> over a VPN.
>
IMAP. Email protocol, where the mailboxes reside on the server, ( vs.
There was a recent post on the OSIRIX list that asked the question why
is OSIRIX not subject to FDA regs. The answer apparently is "if you sell
it installed" it is FDA regulated if you give it away it is not. I
have asked the people responsible for OSIRIX (BTW it is an open source
medical
Rich:
Your comments hit the nail on the head and indicate how the VistA
Community MUST organize if it is to truly succeed. The essentail overll
perspective is Enterprise View Life Cycle Principles. THe MDC was set up
to articulate the overall Life Cycle Principles into M environment realted
la
Even residential users may want to run their own SMTP or personal web or
FTP server, etc.. Even these servers are a violation of most Cable TOS,
as well as the bells. Also most block port 25.
At 10:42 AM 8/11/2005, Mike wrote:
Why would you use a residential account for a business? The R
IMAP = Internet Message Access Protocol. It's a more sophisticated
alternative to POP supporting features like multiple mailboxes,
notification of events such as the arrival of a message, message
disposition notifications, the ability to flag messages and more. If
you're familiar with Microsoft Exc
I remember helping my mother install DSL years ago. It didn't work. I
spent some time on the phone, getting bumped up the support chain.
Finally, I got impatient and ran traceroute (actually tracert under
Windows), and gave the IP address of the failed router to the engineer
I was speaking to. I wa
That's interesting. Frankly, I find it a bit disconcerting to think
that medical applications might be unregulated just because they are
open source.
--- Joseph Dal Molin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There was a recent post on the OSIRIX list that asked the question
> why
> is OSIRIX not subject
I am a little puzzled by the reference to "ethical stand". What does that
mean?
- Original Message -
From: "Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Cable vs. DSL
Even residential users may want to run their own SMTP or pe
Actually this has nothing to do with open source it is how it is
distributed ie. sold vs. given away.
One of the best medical imaging systems in the market actually started
out as a freebiethe name escapes me now not sure what the FDA
history of that solution is but it spread far
I think "purpose" is being confused with "price". Whether something that is
FDA regulated is paid for, free or even given to someone to use along with a
cash incentive, it's the PURPOSE TO WHICH IT IS PUT OR LLKELY TO BE PUT that
is going to determine whether the item is regulated or not. Of cour
From: "Joseph Dal Molin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Actually this has nothing to do with open source it is how it is
> distributed ie. sold vs. given away.
>
Actually it appears to have nothing to do with the method of distribution as
explained in http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/ode/guidance/337.pdf
"This
Another newbie q's:
Has anybody installed openVistA unto Mac OS X
and attempted to set it up as server with SMB
for a Windows client with CPRS?
Will OSIRIX work in this setting (from Windows)?
Jae.
---
SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Bett
The FDA has repeated said that the difference of a device from other
non-regulated software is whether its control capability has the inclusion
of an open cognitive loop that precedes the control of a device. In any
particular situation the can be consulted to determine whether this
control cri
Arden, we collaborate with Regenstrief quite a bit, because we are
affiliated with them.
And "yes" I have much interest in the "adapt-for-adoption" activities
associated with VOE.
Frankly, my prediction is a slightly different pace of adoption than some of
the hype here (and other places) suggest
Unless the law has changed in the last 10 years or so, the FDA's ability to
regulate a medical device is based on "marketing" that device. They claim that
they have the right to regulate based on use, but that's not what the letter of
the law says. When pressed, they refuse to answer (or so I'
They may be still safer than some chemicals promoted in health food stores -
or more important, consider the safety of paper records - where is FDA
there? ...thx/t
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Woodhouse
> Sent: Thurs
Hi, There is a researcher that is looking for a testbed of two clinic
sites running VistA that currently do not exchange e-records but DO
exchange patients often enough to examine staff workload patterns.
Please let me know if you have knowledge of such a place. -- IV
Fair enough. It is just disconcerting to see all this talk about how to
find "loopholes" in FDA regulations (e.g., the use vs. marketing
discussion). I realize not everyone lives in the U.S. and not everyone
is subject to the same laws, but I'd think VistA developers would want
to embrace regulatio
adivien que paso, guess what :)
i have a patient and this patien some have a problem , and his converted a
INPATIENT and after some days the dorcto says this patien it's ok now can
leave the hospital and y use "adt manager---Bed Control Menudischarge a
Patient" select my patien and after t
You did very well explaining your problem! At the Select TEAM NAME: prompt
it appears there are no teams to select from. I don't know if this will
solve the CPRS problem, but you can create new Primary Care Teams by
following the documentation in the Primary Care Management Module. See
http://ww
On 8/11/05, James Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am a little puzzled by the reference to "ethical stand". What does that
> mean?
>
The orignal post to which I replied was about terms of service for
residential cable restricting your rights to run a server on your ip
address.
I pointed out
On 8/11/05, jae kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Another newbie q's:
>
> Has anybody installed openVistA unto Mac OS X
> and attempted to set it up as server with SMB
> for a Windows client with CPRS?
> Will OSIRIX work in this setting (from Windows)?
SMB is about sharing disk directories and
Jae,
My response is to ask you questions and others might have answers. I
suppose others who have answers would also be interested in your sketch
of the type of clinical setting you where you would be setting up these
services including Osirix.
1. Vista is a server/client architecture with bui
On 8/11/05, Michael D. Weisner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One might then be
> forced to look at the issue of SOUP (Software of Unknown Pedigree) in the
> software device. I wonder if all OS software must be treated as SOUP, since
> there are few if any formal controls on design, let alone V&V.
>
OSIRIX only runs on a MAC.
Joseph
jae kim wrote:
Another newbie q's:
Has anybody installed openVistA unto Mac OS X
and attempted to set it up as server with SMB
for a Windows client with CPRS?
Will OSIRIX work in this setting (from Windows)?
Jae.
Right. You'd need SMB if, for example, you wanted to mount a shared
drive from a Windows system, but it has nothing to do with the Broker
or standard Internet protocols. I've never tried to do anything with
SMB under OS X. In fact, I never bothered to ask whether was even
supported. (As an aside, o
Samba's built into MAC so it'll have no problems accessing or serving up
files. I'm accessing mine via XP and no problems with linux-to-MAC
either (or FreeBSD for that matter since I run that at home).
You'll need SMB to access the images but the real question is CPRS since
it is Windows. What t
There is a commercial productr called VirtualPC, but I don't know how
well it will run CPRS. Since it's a true virtual machine and not an
emulation library like Wine, I think it should be okay.
--- David Sommers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Samba's built into MAC so it'll have no problems accessi
SMB is for file sharing so long as you just want to be able to access the
program from a windows machine you should be fine. 3.0 has some interesting
features that let it act as a domain controller so you can have common
passwords between you *nix box and windows machines. Mac OSX is just BSD
with
I am still learning Vista and CPRS and not familar with
server/client setting for those either. I asked the question
because Mac OS X is basically FreeBSD at the core
(Mach core, descendant of NextStep), and OSIRIX only
runs on a Mac. Theoretically openVista could be ported
to Mac. I am dreaming o
Medical Practice Setting I'm thinking:
Community Clinic with
* 1 doctor + 1-2 NP/PA + 1-2 RNs + 1-2 Office staff
* waiting room with computer terminal for
self-registration of patients (with a volunteer helping them)
* a few exam rooms, each with CPRS terminal
* lab room for drawing specim
This was discussed on a long thread in May 2004 at the topica.com site
in which I cited some of the FDA links after struggling to put them in a
context.
http://lists.topica.com/lists/hardhats/read/message.html?mid=910130973
In the use of language about *closed* or *open*, do you mean Title 21
Pa
I saw this on comp.lang.mumps and thought it might interest some on this list.
It's an IDE for MUMPS but primarily meant for GT.M.
- Original Message -
From: "jerzyrog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.mumps
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 3:38 PM
Subject: mpsEdit - IDE for MU
Jae,
I don't know anything about VirtualPC or MacOS10, but when I think of a
small clinic with lots of terminal locations being used intermittently
I have to ask if multiple XTerminals can run instances of a
single VirtualPC application called on OS10 server.
would that be legal with th
Well,, I can telnet to the server (linux), from my client
(winbloze),,, I get the GTM prompt, so this tells me that my firewall
is allowing the negotiation. Are there any parameters with the CPRS
interface that I need to specify,,, other than the ip address, and
port ?
On 8/11/05, Nancy Anthracite
Rusty,
Even with VirtualPC licenses, the overhead will be
too heavy. Maybe having all Mac network (Mac in
each office) and build a complete Mac-VistA system
managed by NetInfo. New GUI could be created with Mac's
Interface Builder for Macintosh graphics.
That means no need for Windows, yes!
Jae.
Sure viewing a scanned paper document should not be under the FDA regs. But
if the device is used for clinical interpretation, wouldn't a practicing
clinician want to use a FDA approved device? Camera taking pictures of
things probably doesn't need FDA approval for example in anatomic pathology
o
What port are you telnetting to?
On Thursday 11 August 2005 09:08 pm, Pkale Robinson wrote:
> Well,, I can telnet to the server (linux), from my client
> (winbloze),,, I get the GTM prompt, so this tells me that my firewall
> is allowing the negotiation. Are there any parameters with the CPRS
>
9200
I DO get the GTM prompt
On 8/11/05, Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What port are you telnetting to?
>
> On Thursday 11 August 2005 09:08 pm, Pkale Robinson wrote:
> > Well,, I can telnet to the server (linux), from my client
> > (winbloze),,, I get the GTM prompt, so this tel
If you are telnetting to 9200 and the Broker is listening on that port, you
should not be getting the GTM prompt. The connection should close as soon as
you type just a few characters.
On Thursday 11 August 2005 10:50 pm, Pkale Robinson wrote:
> 9200
>
> I DO get the GTM prompt
>
> On 8/11/05,
Gregory Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Fair enough. It is just disconcerting to see all this talk about how to
>find "loopholes" in FDA regulations (e.g., the use vs. marketing
>discussion).
Gregory, I think you misinterpret. Past discussion was not centered on findling
loopholes
but on f
I have to ask. On you GT.M box are you dropping into programmer mode and
typing D STRT^XWBTCP(9200), or starting the broker from the RPB BROKER
MANAGEMENT menu?
If you type at a shell prompt on the Linux box lsof | grep 9200
you should see that a process has that port open it should me named mu
Exactly, diagnostic imaging (interpreting a chest x-ray or an MRI) is
regulated by the FDA, clinical imaging (viewing an image of an EKG or even
looking at the same chest x-ray as the Radiologist but not for diagnostic
reasons) is not regulated by the FDA. Software used for diagnostic purposes
is
On 8/11/05, Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
initial-rrhea again. What advantages would one have using "IMAP"
over a VPN.
Mike Lieman wrote:
IMAP. Email protocol, where the mailboxes reside on the server, ( vs.
POP, where it's all downloaded to the client.)
Just to give Kevin
The FDA was mentioned in my initial post because the routines we could use
that connect the TIU and the image have FDA notices on them, and I did not
want to run afoul of the FDA if parts of the code were used, hence the reason
I called them again.
On Friday 12 August 2005 12:20 am, Roy Gabe
If you're getting the GTM> prompt, it's because you're not running
the right command to handle connections. You don't want to start an
interactive GT.M session. Instead, you want to run a specific M
program (which may need to be written) to process Broker requests on
GT.M.
===
Gregory Woo
I see your point, but I think that this would not be an issue because the
whole "device" is not being employed in a different environment, only the
parts that aid in the indexing of images.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy
Anthracite
Remember, GTM doesn't run on Mac - only Cache. And there's no CPRS
replacement, yet, so don't count on somebody writing a Cocoa/Carbon app
on Mac instead of Mono/Mozilla for *nix (to be used everywhere else). I
write with XCode (Mac) and that's not nearly as RAD and cross-platform
as Mono or Mozi
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