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Subject: Re: [Histonet] Processing artif
We have had 2 reasons why we saw processing issues like this:
1. I recently found out on our VIP 5 they did not turn the level sensors on
during install. These sensors are known to error so often, Sakura tells
technicians to set the default to off. All the processor can sense is pressure
and
I would check the level of the formalin after it has been pumped into the
retort.
I will wait till the pics are posted
Regards,
Tony Henwood MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC), FFSc(RCPA) (Retired)
Principal Scientist, the Children’s Hospital at Westmead (Retired)
Adjunct Fellow, School of
Since images cannot be attached, if any of you feel you have some
experience that I may find helpful...please email me directly and I will
attach the image to my reply.
Thanks again,
*Greg Dobbin*
Chief Technologist
Anatomic Pathology
Queen Elizabeth Hospital
Charlottetown, PE, Canada
Hi Jessica
My advice would be to process your small biopsies during the day allowing
depending on the times you use at least 2 runs per day. One in the am and one
in the pm. Then run your large blocks over night as per usual. Any late
arriving small biopsies can be run on the am run the
We have encountered a similar problem with one of our two processors is down.
Shortening the longer schedule produced underprocessed fatty tissues and over
processed biopsies, so we run the biopsies on the short schedule overnight, run
a quick clean cycle, then the larger tissues on the 10hr
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On Monday, March 1, 2021, 2:10 PM,
What are you using for your lab's own control. Was that tissue processed
recently? Do you have normal tonsil that you process in-house regularly
that also stains poorly?
On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 9:16 AM Greg Dobbin via Histonet <
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu> wrote:
> Great point John!
>
Great point John!
We do attempt to have all of the specimen handling for our control tissue,
match that of our specimens. However,
tonsillectomies at our hospital are only performed on Thursdays. So we fix
them for 24hrs (until Friday) then process overnight and remove
from the processor on
The processing schedule looks fine. I am thinking that if you are having no
problems with morphology on the H processing is not the issue. The extended
period in the warming draw is a good hypothesis.
I do have a question. How long was that particular piece of tonsil kept in
formalin before
Processing seems adequate.
After processing, how long do they sit in the embedding centre block holding
tank before embedding?
We found that quite a few antigens were affected when we stored control tonsil
in the embedding centre (dry) at 60oC for a few days before embedding. In
summary:
The vet samples can be processed just any other animal tissue whether they be
human or rat. People is animals too. Formalin fixed there are no special safety
issues. E. Wayne Johnson DVM Enable AgTech Beijing ewj Email:e...@pigs.ag
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Hi
Processing them , how?
To Pwax?
To snapfreeze?
To resin?
Kind regards
Carl
Carl Hobbs FIBMS
Histology and Imaging Manager
Wolfson CARD
Guys Campus, London Bridge
Kings College London
London
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Charles Riley HT, HTL(ASCP)CM, a Mohs histopathology coordinator, asks:
>>Can anyone give me an idea how they process cystic tissues? The normal tissue
processes extremely well on my current protocol but the cystic areas just
are too soft to cut. Any tricks anyone can provide to process better or
Charles:
I usually get out as much of the cystic material as I can without damaging the
cyst wall itself. That is all the docs are looking at anyway. I am assuming you
are referring to skin cysts, not ovaries, etc.
Claire
From: Charles Riley via
Yes, I will send you the procedure that we use.
Richard
Richard W. Cartun, MS, PhD
Director, Histology & The Martin M. Berman, MD Immunopathology & Morphologic
Proteomics Laboratory
Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs
Assistant Director, Anatomic Pathology
Hartford Hospital
80 Seymour
Will they be able to do IHC stains?
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From: Wanda Shotsberger Gray via Histonet
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Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 12:56 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Processing FFPE tissue without alcohol
While the
Hey Charles,
Why are the first 2 steps of formalin that long? If you make sure your
tissue is well fixated, then there is no need for such long fixation in the
machine. You could use step 2 for just washing the formalin out, so for
only like 5 minutes. You could use that time, to add to other
Not knowing what issues you have, I suggest you look to your samples for
processing. Reduce thickness and the shorter times will work. 2-2.5 mm thick.
Standardize fixation before placing in tissue processor. What time is the
processor started and what time does the tech remove? You may be able
We are a similar sized hospital with an 8,000/yr Surgical load of mixed large
and small cases. We process 1000 Non-gyn Cytology cases, assist with FNA
collection in Interventional Radiology. We also assist with about 130 bone
marrow collections, including smears and processing. There is
Do you using "freezing spray" on these specimens? Direct spray can cause
the tissue to appear burnt.
From: Charles Riley via Histonet
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: 01/05/2016 06:00 AM
Subject:[Histonet] Processing of breast
Hi Allison,
we doubled the times of the regular processing protocol beginning with
longer absolute ethanol, intermedium and paraffin. Our regular protocol
takes 13 hours and the fatty-protocol takes 17 hours. We start it at about 2
pm with endtime at 8 am. So breast tissue is mostly embedded at
Would love to see also.
Michael Ann
On 6/15/15, 2:18 PM, Leslie, Mary mary.les...@tricore.org wrote:
Does anyone have a processing validation procedure they would like to
share? Thank you!
Mary Leslie
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Having morphology problems when re-processing a tissue after an accident as
you had is the unavoidable consequence. The problem is rooted in the fact
that usually you remove the paraffin using the tissue processor cleaning cycle
and that is a very harsh method (albeit the most expeditious). If
I am afraid your tissue might be 'toast'. I tried to reprocess from that
same issue and things did not go well. We were processing mouse tissue,
which is dry enough, but then when we put the tissues back through xylene
and into 100% and back again it got even worse.
We had to just get what we
Hi Martha
I think that Caroline is correct but you have nothing to lose by removing
the wax and then trying to dehydrate and so on. A more gentle way after
removing the wax and dehydrating is to use chloroform instead of xylene and
hand processing. Chloroform is much more gentle although tissue
Patsy-
We routinely process and section many meshes in paraffin. I would suggest
processing a sample, embedding and sectioning to see if you can get good
sections. It is worth a try.
Joe Saby
NAMSA
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This depends on so many different factors, however, I prefer a frequent
rotation over a complete change.
Do what is best for your tissue!
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On Jan 13, 2014, at 9:46 AM, Jb craiga...@gmail.com wrote:
I have one tech telling me that when the entire processor is changed the
This gets me back to another recent topic, soaking the blocks.
I've seen this a little in the past, just soak them on an ice block,tray for a
couple minutes and you'll be fine. To me, another indicator would be that if
you're getting dry tissue when changed but not later could there be some
A sample 2mmx2mmx1mm is quite small and there should not be any problems with
either fixation of processing but there is where the problem my reside.
1- fixing in 10% formalin: is it neutral buffered? For such a small piece 24
hours will be enough but to be absolutely sure try leaving the pieces
Patsy,
18-24 hours in Davidson's followed by 70% ethanol prior to processing. Some
people also store the eyes in 10%NBF. I will attach a schedule for you off
line.
Bea
Beatrice DeBrosse-Serra HT(ASCP)QIHC
Isis Pharmaceuticals
Antisense Drug Discovery
2855 Gazelle Ct.
Carlsbad, CA 92010
We transfer eyes out of Mod Davidsons after 24 hours and process with the other
soft tissues in formalin- why transfer to alcohol? We have beautiful eye
sections.
Jackie O'
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On Aug 8, 2013, at 3:12 PM, Bea DeBrosse-Serra bdebrosse-se...@isisph.com
wrote:
Patsy,
18-24
Stop using xylene!
René J.
From: MaryK Mendell kmend...@goldbergmd.net
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 7:58 AM
Subject: [Histonet] Processing Fumes
I run a very small Derm lab and starting
I have the same processor. If you remove the back panel there is a drip jar
for waste just inside. It might be getting full.
Tony Auge HTL (ASCP) QIHC
Cell: (651) 373-4768
Email: tony.a...@gmail.com
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 4:58 AM, MaryK Mendell kmend...@goldbergmd.netwrote:
I run a very small
Heather-
I do not know why, but to properly process guinea pig tissues you need a much
more rigorous program than what would work for mice. It is very easy to over
process mouse tissue. Even rat tissue needs more processing. Guinea pig
tissue need a program designed for processing larger
Heather,
Looking at your protocol for processing the kidney and heart tissue I can't
figure out why it is mushy especially if you are putting it in the cassettes so
thin and it has had a chance to fix well before processing. In fact, looking at
your protocol I might think that your tissue might
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I find them very good for brain slices.
There is a deeper and a shallower space, depending on which way they are folded.
Carl Hobbs FIBMS
Hi Kathleen, Several years and a couple employers ago we attached small
biopsies (for proper orientation) to small squares of cucumber (which had been
dehydrated in several changes of alcohol) with a egg-albumin/glycerol mixture.
The bx/cucumber unit was embedded together after processing and
I'd like to be included in the protocol processing exchange too!
Best
Maria Mejia
On Dec 5, 2012, at 10:55 AM, Lynette Pavelich wrote:
Yes, please share! Thanks!
Lynette
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
That will depend on the tissue and the size/thickness of the specimens.
Appreciate how they turned out and you will have the answer to your question.
At least for me it is very difficult to answer your question without knowing
the tissue characteristics.
René J.
Brains in particular need to be fixed real well If it's a whole brain what I've
done is hang the brain by a mesh or strings into a large brain bucket so it's
not touching the sides or bottom. Fix for few days then get you sections. I'd
go textbook on the 3 mm thick sections for processing and
the last
alcohol and the first paraffin wax bath.
René J.
--- On Mon, 1/30/12, Jerry Ricks rosenfeld...@hotmail.com wrote:
From: Jerry Ricks rosenfeld...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Processing adipose tissue
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Monday, January 30, 2012, 7:15 PM
...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 8:34 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Jerry Ricks
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Processing adipose tissue
I agree that 21 hours is too much, but using isopropyl alcohol does not a
clearing step because isopropyl alcohol
: David Burk david.b...@pbrc.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Processing adipose tissue
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Tuesday, January 31, 2012, 9:51 AM
René,
Thanks very much for your input on this matter. I also want to go ahead and
thank the other two (Jerry and Karen) who have chimed
!
Tracy
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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Jerry
Ricks
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 5:15 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Processing adipose tissue
Hi David,
21
Hi David,
21 hours in isopropyl seems likw ea lot, and I don't see any clearing step to
remove the IPA.
I've been using Slide Brite instead of Xylene, but I see that Rene Buesa
published a study indicating that mineral oil is the cat's meow for xylene
substitutes.
How many 100% do you have. I have 3. This is where the dehydration comes
in. The 100 takes all the mositure out of the specimen. So this step is
critical. Water and xylene are not soluable so if the specimens are not
getting dehydrated properly, the xylene will not penertate the specimens
That processing schedule should be fine for skin samples, we add an additional
100% alcohol step so we have three absolute steps at 1 hour each (I would
remove one 95%). Thickness of your samples is also important they should be
around 3mm in thickness if they are thicker than that they may
Set your formalin at 45ºC, dehydration at room temp with vacuum/pressure and
the paraffin as usual.
René J.
--- On Wed, 7/6/11, Nicole Schuster njbate...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Nicole Schuster njbate...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Histonet] Processing
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
We heat from 38-40 degrees for all reagents except the paraffin, which
is heated to 60 degrees. I don't use any heat at all on my small
biopsies.
Laurie Colbert
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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On
Please respond to everyone. I would like to have the information also.
Thank you,
Carol
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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sheila Adey
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 4:23 PM
To:
The best approach is to increase the fixation time to make sure that the
tissues are really fixed.
Then cut the dehydration times of the lower alcohols by 20% and add that 20% of
saved time as increase in the clearing agent (supposedly xylene or alkane
substitute) times.
René J.
From: Sheila
Develop a good general protocol for animal tissue. You cannot have
dedicated protocols for every type of tissue.
René J.
--- On Fri, 6/3/11, Stoll, Kathryn kst...@mcw.edu wrote:
From: Stoll, Kathryn kst...@mcw.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Processing Mouse Pancreas
To:
Carol
We are a research lab but we have always processed our skin samples on
longer processing cycles, even the punch biopsy samples. The shaves
might be different, if I wanted to cut down I would start with how you
normally process them and then cut down at 5 minute increments to start
and see
My question is directed specifically to veterinary histologists or histologists
who also do a fair amount of animal processing. We are having a terrible time
processing pig fat. We had problems previously, but thought we had solved them.
This latest project (pig skin with a lot of fat attached)
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Subject: Re: [Histonet] Processing animal fat
My question is directed specifically to veterinary histologists or
histologists
who also do a fair amount of animal processing. We are having a
terrible time
processing pig fat. We had problems previously, but thought we had
solved them
The specimens can be large, but we trim so the thickness is less than 5mm.
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From: Marcum, Pamela A [mailto:pamar...@uams.edu]
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 4:02 PM
To: Sherwood, Margaret ; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: Re: [Histonet] Processing animal
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Subject: Re: [Histonet] Processing animal fat
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Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 3:57 PM
My question is directed specifically to veterinary histologists or histologists
who also do a fair amount of animal processing. We are having a terrible time
Peggy,
Is your whole program one hour or is each station one hour?
We had a project here a few years ago that we called the bacon project
because we had whole chunks of pig skin with an implant and lots of fat in
between the layers. It was fixed for a couple days in 10% NBF and then
processed
We trim to 2mm thick.
Jan Shivers
UMN Vet Diag Lab
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Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 3:02 PM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Processing animal fat
5mm
, Margaret
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 2:29 PM
To: Grantham, Andrea L - (algranth); HISTONET
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Processing animal fat
Every station is 1 hour, and our processing program is similar to yours:
we run
the progam overnight, so specimens sit in formalin for a delayed start.
Then
50
You could try asking the authors of the paper for their protocol.
Nalini
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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Luciana
Bastos
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 5:06 AM
To:
Luciana
You process histogel samples essentially the same way you process
regular tissue samples. I'm assuming you will be dealing with a about a
1 cm cube sample that you want embedded into the histogel and then you
would then slice the histogel cube (with the collagen construct) into 3
mm
John:
Some labs uses processing metod with isopropanol and
mineral oil with very good results.
Here is our manual protocol for rodent tissues:
1. Isopropanol 70% 0.5 h
2. Isopropanol 80% 0.5 h
3. Isopropanol 95% 0.5 h
4. Isopropanol 99% 0.5 h
5. IM 5:1 50oC 1 h
6. IM 2:1 50oC 1 h
7. Mineral oil
Hi Jennifer
I realise there are products like Histogel about of which I have no knowledge
however I have been using agar for over 30 years because I can get it easily
and gratis from our microbiology department.
My experience is to spin down the cells, remove the supernatent, then add
You have assumed that processing is correct, but shrinkage is always caused by
too fast dehydration, therefore the processing is not adequate.
René J.
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From: Dinesh Sariya sari...@hotmail.com
Subject: [Histonet] Processing of fatty
Thanks for throwing this one out there. I am also interested in this topic. Can
you please post replies to the net? Thanks !!! :-)
--- On Thu, 11/5/09, Vickroy, Jim vickroy@mhsil.com wrote:
From: Vickroy, Jim vickroy@mhsil.com
Subject: [Histonet] Processing small gi biopsies, skin
The important aspect is fixation. Let your PA slice the whole prostate and
place them in the so called mega-cassettes in a plastic container over a
vortex so they rotate inside the NBF for at least 24 hours.
After that just use the longest of your protocols. If you have one that has
worked well
Paula:
For me the times (2 h/each), your dependable instrument and the schedule seem
to be OK, but I am not so sure about the Citrisolve because this product (1.4
more expensive than xylene) is made of 91% of water and surfactants + 9%
d-limonene and I am not very confident that such a clearing
Gloria:
Frequently the problems that appear in the sections are attributed to
processing defects when they usually originate before processing, during
fixation.
Small pieces of tissue left to dry before being placed in the fixative. You
write that sometimes happens to one biopsy in a group of
Shandon - or whatever they're called this week- sell nylon mesh biopsy bags.
These are flat bags, sealed on 3 sides. I have found that if you cut one
corner off (ie, a oblong piece with 2 sides still sealed) just a tiny bit
bigger than the cassette, you can open the bag, like a book, insert the
19, 2009 3:39 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Andrea Grantham
Subject: Re: [Histonet] processing v-e-r-y tiny samples
I may never complain about tiny GI or bronch biopsies ever again!
Andrea Grantham algra...@u.arizona.edu 3/19/2009 11:51 AM
Good Morning!
In keeping with the weirdness
Careful - you may be close to the mark. Thermo laid off about 75 people here in
Madison last week.
Claire
Shandon - or whatever they're called this week-
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Well, you could always hand process them in test tubes.
Jerry Ricks
Research Scientist
University of Washington
Department of Pathology
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:39:14 -0400
From: bryan.wat...@parkview.com
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; algra...@u.arizona.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet
-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Bryan Watson
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:39 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Andrea Grantham
Subject: Re: [Histonet] processing v-e-r-y tiny samples
I may never complain about tiny GI or bronch biopsies ever again!
Andrea Grantham algra
] On Behalf Of Monfils,
Paul
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 12:46 PM
To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Processing 3-dimensional cell cultures into
paraffin
I have processed and embedded cells grown in/on agar, or post-embedded
in agar or agarose, many times. It really
Mouse tissues, any one, will dry out too much with ethanol and xylene.
I advise you to stop using ethanol and xylene and substitute BOTH with
iso-propanol at the concentrations and times you are using now.
Instead of the first paraffin, use a mixture 1:1 of iso-propanol and paraffin,
followed by
Well, I have a number of suggestions now; once I get past the holidays
I'll start trying them out when the next batch of samples comes in. We
provide histology and pathology services for our dept and university, so
it's all animal tissue.
Thanks again to everybody, and I'll let you know how
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