Jim McDermott writes:
I'm just curious, from all of the vast experience on this list, what
improved playing characteristics could I expect from installing a custom
leadpipe on my early Texas 8D? It plays well now, so what would change?
With Lawson FB210.125 you could expect: more
Clamidy Clamity,
I. M. Gestopftmitscheist
told you to practice
your Kopprasch today.
Instead you did excerpts,
concertos and Alphonse
and so you still sound like
a moose when you play.
KB
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Jeremy,
Sorry, you missed my point, and I did not take it personally at all as I did
get paid union scale! This was an experimental session in quad. They
must have had 72 tracks and mikes to match. The year was about 1978 or 79.
There were lights on our mikes, and they were OFF! I
Very funny Paul!
Reminds me of a time many moons ago. I was playing extra with a top 5 US
orchestra recording Varese's Arcana in quadrophonic. The orchestra was in a
big circle around the conductor and the nine horns were in a line, quite far
away and under a balcony. We noticed the
LOL!!! I had one at KBHC tell me after I had recommended that he improve
his non-existent aural skills that he didn't need good rhythm or sight
reading
ability because he was a music ed major! I replied, That's great! You'll
be like a French teacher who can't speak French! He said,
I dunno Steve, I think my desert island choice would be Prof. IMG doing
Kopprasch No. 1 or Elvis doing Hound Dog.
Great music moves the soul, no matter what period it comes from. I always
find the good stuff rewarding. Remember, there is a lot more bad music than
there is good! Bach
Steve wrote:
Mozart is arguably the greatest composer to ever have walked the face of
this Earth. For a musician not to like Mozart means only that the musician
doesn't understand Mozart.
Well, I agree with the second sentence completely but I think J.S. Bach is
arguably the greatest
Ralph wrote:
Old guys like me lament that the younger generation has no respect for or
even knowledge of
my language as it was taught to me, ignoring that English used to look and
sound the way Chaucer wrote it, and that one
day, English as I speak it will be as remote and inaccessible
Not true. Your 6D had rotor's, didn't it? 8D's had rotors, too. By WWII,
American companies were making rotor valves. Reynolds, King and Conn made
single F's for the military as they were easy to build and most important,
cheap to buy. The Conn 2D, and the early Buescher doubles used
Jimmy Chambers was principal and Joe Singer was associate principal until
Chambers' early retirement from playing due to health problems. Singer then
became principal until he retired a few years later in 1972. Joe Singer
published a book, Embouchure Building for French Horn, which is a
Well, I'm flattered but I have not heard from Herr Meinl. I will admit that
the last Hoyer I tried was at KBHC last June. I'm not sure when it was
made. The other's I tried were early ones, I think. As to prices, here are
today's prices at The Brasswind and the Woodwind of South Bend
Given a choice, I'd take the Yamaha 668II. The best Kruspe Horner clone on
the market today. The Hoyer is a good copy of the 8D but is just that, a
copy. It has all the old faults most notably the intonation, especially in
the
upper register. The current Conn 8D is actually a King in
For the record, the Paxman in question here was an F alto-Bb soprano double
horn. Paxman made the one for BT to use on the Zelenka recordings with Bobby
Routch on 2nd. He did return the horn after the sessions. I don't know if
the Don't want it, won't buy it story is true but he told me
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I can only venture a guess but I would have to say it was too early. Also,
Mahler was in NY for a relatively short time, as I recall, 3 years, maybe?
Stokowski was in Phila. for a long time and helped to found Curtis as well.
Horner taught many fine students at Curtis who went to many
I recorded the show and finally had a chance to watch. This was a great
concert! It is always wonderful to hear how great musicians respond and
produce
when given strong, knowledgable leadership. One of the greatest things
about the Vienna Philharmonic is the perfect balance. You
I think the true American sound would be that of Anton Horner. Think
about this, he had a hand in the invention and propogated the use of the large
belled nickel silver horn. He also worked for a conductor, Stokowski, who had
unique and revolutionary ideas about sound. Horner's stule
Actually, this is only part of the story, and a little bit off at that.
As explained to me by Michel Garcin-Marrou (who was there):
French orchestras were losing their recording contracts due to the
uniqueness of their sound in the WW's and brass. The producers and conductors
were
I had to work part-time to earn spending money and to pay for my horn
lessons. Vinnie
talked to his dad and he gave us both jobs as Vermin Control Assistants at
the landfill.
This required us to shoot the rats with .22 caliber rifles as we were not
old enough yet to
carry handguns. Sal
OK, since I'm the one who knows him the best, after all, and he was and
still is in a way, MY TEACHER, I can tell you what little I know about his
background. I can only surmise some of this, and other stuff is factual, to
the
best of my memory but please don't mistake any of this for
Longhorn Lenny of Laredo connjuncts:
I wish to congratulate you on the founding of Clamsaa, a noble concept.
Perhaps you would consider moving the holiday to some less congested part of
the year. My first thought would be Sept. 1st of each year. That is the
date of the ultimate clam by one
Well, there's this guy who plays violin,
but he has a bad sound.
So, he switches to viola,
but he plays out of tune.
Then, he takes up the horn,
but he misses too many notes.
So, he joins the percussion section,
but he has bad rhythm.
Then, they take one stick away,
and make him
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) asks:
Anybody know how many terrorists they have caught
carrying French horns?
None. The ones I know only carry batons.
KB
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I'm sure that Besson gets their stenciled horns from Lidl, now for at
least 10 years. Hoyer also makes a very good horn with this wrap (sort of a
cross between Geyer and Kruspe). I have seen and played several owned by
KBHCers. They are tighter and brighter than the Geyer wrapped Hoyers
Here is what I sent to the Yahoo list a while back:
Steve Colley wrote:
KB,
Write more about freebuzzing when you get a moment. Range? Tone quality?
Actual exercises...etc.
And several others responded with their opinions and relayed other opinions.
My opinion is that free buzzing
I wrote this to the other list a few weeks ago.
KB
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KB,
Write more about freebuzzing when you get a moment. Range? Tone quality?
Actual exercises...etc.
And several others responded with their opinions and relayed other opinions.
My opinion is
0-32.875 hours per week depending on my workload.
KB
Skippy the Wonder Guy wrote:
Dear List,
I am doing a statistics for my math class. My topic is practice habits of
professional players. If as many teachers or professional players could let
me know:
How many hours per week do you
I'm sending this to both lists even though it appeared originally on Memphis.
Thanks to Peter Hirsch for the heads up on this group. They are
performing at UNH next Monday at 8 PM. One of the guest natural horn players
from
Germany, Jean-Sebastien Salm, is a KBHC alum from 2001. He
Here is list of different wraps of F-Bb full double horns and the
manufacturers/assemblers who make/made them. I don't profess that this list
is
complete, it is off the top of my head at this moment.
Traditional Kruspe wrap with or without separate Bb tuning slide: Kruspe
(held
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Parable for Solo Horn
Dear Horn Listers:
I've had some cancellations and I now have three college and/or adult
openings for KBHC 2005, Week 2, June 19-26. Please visit our web site,
www.horncamp.org , for details.
If you are interested in joining us, please contact me immediately.
Thank you!
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Chris Earnest wrote:
Farkas once mentioned that Ward Fearn replaced him as first in Kansas City
when he moved to Chicago. This was of course before Fearn was in
Philadelphia.
I heard that Fearn once sang La Donna Mobile in a Philly rehearsal when the
vocal soloist was late or absent.
Ward O. Fearn played second horn in the Philadelphia Orchestra, first to
Jimmy Chambers, later to Mason Jones, from 1942-1965. He was offered many 1st
positions in other orchestras but liked what he was doing in Phila. best.
George
Szell called him my favorite hornplayer and offered him the
I do too.
KB
Hans wrote:
D.B. holds the horn to the side for a better
sound projection, not because he plays the hand horn also
(in the demo). If one plays the hand horn, this sidewards
position is not ideal for the use of the hand, as the hand
must be able to move freely quickly, so not to
In a message dated 3/19/2005 1:00:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Unfortunately, there have been no advances in horn design and
construction since the Beginning of the last century. Cheaper yes, better no.
- Steve Mumford
Ever heard of Lawson Brass Instruments?
KB
Last I heard, Patrick Miles is organizing it for February 24-26, 2006 at
UW-Stevens Point. Planned headliners are American Horn Quartet, Tom Varner,
Lowell Greer and myself. I'm sure he'll get some PR out on it when things are
finalized.
KB
In a message dated 3/9/2005 1:00:49 PM Eastern
Here's an old story told to me by trombonist-conductor Henry Charles Smith
III:
A trombonist in a major opera orchestra gets called for an outside job that
conflicts and he can't find a sub. Desperate, he talks to one of the opera
house janitors about subbing for him.
The janitor keeps
Hans wrote:
Get a castrate made. It is quite simple, just kicking into
his b...s very hard, the high d will be available.
Also for the original version of K'stueck!
KB
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Bill Gross wrote:
What's the night before Halloween called?
* I don't use any word for this
* Devil's night
* Mischief night
* Cabbage night
Mischief night where I grew up. Where was that? I live in New England, now
and I don't know what it is called here.
KB
For those of you in the New England area, I'm doing the Brahms Trio, Op. 40
tomorrow, Sunday, February 13, 2005 under the auspices of the North Country
Chamber Players with violinist Curtis MacCumber and pianist Bernard Rose. 3PM,
Sugar Hill Meeting House, Sugar Hill, NH (Rt. 117, I93 exit 38
John Stork, no question.
Hoss writes:
Hi List,
I'm looking for the old version C1 or C4 mouthpiece cup. Does anyone know
where I can find one? Either new or used. Who makes the best copy these days?
If a C1 is not available, what is the closest copy of this mouthpiece and
where can I buy
Anton Horner: There are two types of horn players and they are not HIGH and
LOW. They are GOOD and BAD!
Anton Horner: You've got to have THE STUFF!
Mason Jones: Get the right notes, the right rhythm and don't play too loud.
It's a business.
Mason Jones: Not so good. Bring that one
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Does anyone know what mouthpiece Chambers used?
Ron
Giardinelli C1
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Alex wrote:
I'm not sure I trust the accuracy of the Giard or Stork design... noting
that both designs differ greatly from each other, both the cup and the rim.
John Stork has the original Giardinelli molds, cutters and specs. I would
trust him for accurate reproductions of any mouthpiece.
KB
Peter H. wrote:
The correct URL is: http://home.earthlink.net/~punto50/HornPistol.jpeg
Anyone recall who the guy in the picture was?
Sorry.
Peter Hirsch
I think that is a very old picture of my teacher, Prof. I.M.G., with his
Sansone 6 chambered, dual rifled pistol. He is shooting a Maestro
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TAKE 2:
Stuart de Haro wrote:
Here is the funniest comment I have received so far:
I'm glad you made this an anonymous survey. I wouldn't want any
knowing I play on a Bach.
Please feel free to top that. I could always use a chuckle.
Hermann Baumann uses a Bach.
KB
Hello gang,
I have decided to sell the Paul Eastman horn I reviewed here a few months
back. If you are interested, please take a look at:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3767109731ssPageName=ADME:
B:EF:US:1
Thanks!
KB
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Stacy Louise Devino wrote:
I have been thinking about getting my valve caps engraved for a while now,
but don't know whether it would be worth it. They currently have a mirror
finish on them that looks very out of place with the paxmans and hoyers in
my section, also appears very contemporary.
When I interview/audition a new student, either in studio or at KBHC, in
order to look at the player's embouchure, I ask for a three octave F major
(concert Bb) scale, starting on pedal F, slurred to top line F, breath, and back
down. Then, I ask for the arpeggio, same way.
About half the
Russ writes:
About the Paul Eastman horn's valve tolerance, Kendall wrote ... they were
at .003, about the same as Holton. ...
Is that a radial measurement?
At what tolerance does a valve's inability to seal (with a film of a 'normal'
oil) become problematic?
Russ Smiley (an engineer, but not
Hello Listers,
I recently purchased a Paul Eastman horn from an E-bay seller. I paid $808
including shipping. I spent a week with Walt Lawson and Co. earlier in August
working on various projects, one of which was to analyze the Chinese made
instrument. Here is a review.
We were first
Dear Hornlisters:
I have had a few cancellations and now have some spaces available for KBHC
2004. I'm sorry but our High School classes are full so I only have spaces for
college, amateur and professional participants.
This year's faculty: Baumann, Betts, Garcin-Marrou, Greer, Haddad,
Tom Warner wrote:
I can't help but feel this is bad news for the job market.
http://tinyurl.com/yr7rj
Some of the other instruments are very good.
I, for one, am not worried. Very realistic, though. Sounds like a second
rate section - badly out of tune, sloppy articulation. Needs a few
Chris Tedesco asks:
In all seriousness, I bet most of us never heard of factory dust or
lapping compound in new horns until the recent hornlist posts. If it were really a
problem, wouldn't it have been brought to the general horn-public's attention
much earlier?
I had some time to think
Bill Bamberg writes:
Has anyone out there gotten a new horn they were happy with?
Yes. 7 to be exact over a 24 year period. All are engraved LAWSON, USA.
Kendall Betts
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Here is the reply from Mr. Smitth and my reply to him. We'll see if he
writes back on this!
Subject: Re: URGENT REPLYPATMENT AND SHIPPING ARRANGEMENT
Hello,
Thanks for your recent mail.The price of $9,000 is okay by me, and i am ready
to purchase it immediately,but concerning the
Here is an inquiry and my reply to an obvious scammer:
Subject: ENQUIRY.Lawson 963 Classical Descant
Goodday,
Martins Smitth by name,I came across your Lawson 963 Classical Descant, which
i am interested in,and i am ready to purchase it immediately.But i would like
to know the
William, let's get one thing straight:
All know it all students annoy the hell out of me and you are no exception.
You come off on this list like some horn god and you haven't even finished
school. Just remember, when I was your age I was already 4 years a
professional and assoc. principal
William wrote:
Schmid is a genius for having the only horns I know of in
the world that can use different sized bells.
Sorry, wrong answer. The freelancers (Ray Alonge and Joe DeAngelis in
particular) in NY (including myself at one time) were using Alex flares on Conn 8D's
years ago. Reason:
William, William, William, wrote:
The instrument itself can be raised or
lowered an entire half step on both sides of the horn. No other horn I know
of does
that, not at least any manufactured today.
I have owned a long slide for years. Had one for a Conn, now for a Lawson.
Handy for tricky
Giovanni asks:
Hi all,
Does anyone know if Prof. I.M. Gestopftmitscheist is still on the
hornlist? I miss some of his pithy comments and general good humor.
Giovanni :-
I can safely say that my teacher, Prof. G., is still lurking on the list but
his busy schedule keeps him from writing.
What is the name/manufacturer of this equipment, software, whatever it is?
Do they have a website?
Thanks!!!
Kendall Betts
Bill Bamberg wrote:
Make your own. My son just got back from the NAMM show in LA. They are
demonstrating a sampler where they sampled every possible skill of all the
As to the MASH episode and Charles Winchester aka David Ogden Stiers, here is
an important question: What LA studio free-lancer played the horn on the
sound track for that episode sounding almost as good as Prof. I.M.
Gestopftmitscheist?
Hint: His name is not Vince or Jim or KB and not Stiers
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Prof. Hans Pizka wrote:
Has anyone ever thought, that the right hand (bell hand) can be used to
adjust pitch ? I have never heard any word about this here on the
list. Funny, isn't it?
No, Hans, not funny, just pathetic. It's amazing how many people come to
KBHC and when I mention intonation
Graham asks:
How much do you guys use the right hand for intonation?
Very little on my Lawsons, A lot on my Serafinoff.
KB, who is very handy.
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Robert asks:
I am going to purchase/perform the Beethoven Sextet Op. 81b. would anyone
happen to know if there are problems in either the Peters or International
edition?
As to purchasing, there are no problems assuming you have sufficient funds.
I am guessing the Peters costs more. David
I got the same stuff but for my Lawson Classical Descant. I wrote back that
I wanted CASH, USD, up front in unmarked 20 dollar bills with non-consecutive
serial numbers. LOL!!! But do beware. I have gotten several of these scam
inquiries for horns I listed on hornplayer.net.
Kendall
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I have not used an 8D as a daily driver for 20+ years but I am certainly
familiar with them and still own my two 1938 originals.
The best 8Ds were the earliest (pre-letter) ones. They were superbly made,
had a slightly larger bell throat and lots of metal in the bell. By the
letter series,
Rick wrote:
I got an interesting piece of information from a co-player, who claims to
have heard it from Robert Schwendeman (sp?) - it seems, on the
Szell/Cleveland recording of the Beethoven 7, the high passages in the
outer movements were played by 6 horns. I wonder if Szell did the
In a message dated 1/17/03 12:00:36 PM Central Standard Time,
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For some really great horn instruction including coaching in
orchestral excerpts by leading professional hornists, check out KBHC at
http://www.iaxs.net/~cormont/KBHC/
Loren wrote:
For some really great horn instruction including coaching in
orchestral excerpts by leading professional hornists, check out KBHC at
http://www.iaxs.net/~cormont/KBHC/
Thanks for the plug, Loren, but our web address has changed. Please take a
look at: A
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Thank you all for your kind wishes!
Lucy checked into the world at 20 (twenty) and 3/4 inches. Hans can figure
out how many centimeters.
We are all doing fine.
Best wishes to all for the Holidays!
Kendall and Anna Betts
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Jim B wrote
In experiments done it was found that when comparing brass instruments and
nickel silver alloy instruments that to get the same level of dynamic power
out of two identical instruments, the nickel silver instrument bell has to
be
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Herb Foster writes:
I have found that the ER-20 from http://www.etymotic.com are much more
satisfactory than the foam or wax type. Their flatter frequency response
makes
for better music and speech hearing. Since they insert deeply in the
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In experiments done it was found that when comparing brass instruments and
nickel silver alloy instruments that to get the same level of dynamic power
out of two identical instruments, the nickel silver instrument bell has to
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Prof. Cabbage writes:
you should have gotten an agreement
for payment before giving
your advice, Kenny,
Dr. Cabbage is correct here but I was giving FREE advice! Isn't that the
great thing about these lists?
KB
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Folks, give it up!
There are two types of horn sound -
GOOD and BAD!
PERIOD
What's in your wallet?
KB
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