Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?)

2007-02-19 Thread Al Sherkow
SCRT definitely only reports the IBM sub-capacity products for which it is programmed. No ISV products are reported by SCRT today. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: literacy

2007-02-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, john gilmore said: > Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 02:08:18 + > > I instead judge anyone who cannot read (and write) Roman numerals > subliterate. > I expected no less of you. I can moderate my hyperbole: they're a part of our culture; as such their teaching belongs in So

Re: literacy

2007-02-19 Thread john gilmore
Paul Gilmartin wrote: Likewise, I consider teaching Roman numerals a waste of time. I instead judge anyone who cannot read (and write) Roman numerals subliterate. John Gilmore _ Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and

Re: Literacy

2007-02-19 Thread Ted MacNEIL
> Likewise, I consider teaching Roman numerals a waste of time. At the risk of being OT, teaching other cultures that have led to ours is NOT a waste of time. Of course, I am a history buff. And, I found I know about American history, than my ex (an American) did. Knowledge is a good thing! Ma

Re: Literacy

2007-02-19 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
Paul Gilmartin wrote: Likewise, I consider teaching Roman numerals a waste of time. Roman numerals are rife in our culture - just look at the credits of any film or television program. I also recall a, perhaps apocryphal, story about a Chicago edifice generally referred to as the McMix build

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2007-02-19 Thread Carles Arís
Estaré ausente de la oficina desde el 19/02/2007 y no volveré hasta el 23/02/2007. Responderé a su mensaje cuando regrese. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with t

Re: IBM S/360 series operating systems history

2007-02-19 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Brick Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 1:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM S/360 series operating systems history You have also missed some small relatively insignificant OS's. T

Re: z/OS 1.7 with JES2 and CA-View

2007-02-19 Thread Harold Zbiegien
we have no problems, view 11.0 z/os 1.7 as of Jan 14 and we migrated first to view 11.0 under z/os 1.4 then a month later to z/os 1.7 we also tested all of this on our sand box system before migrating to production. Harold - Original Message - From: "Chase, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: IBM S/360 series operating systems history

2007-02-19 Thread Steven Arnett
Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: i had summer student programming job ... developing 360 port of 1401 MPIO front-end for 709 (univ. used 1401 for cardreader -> tape and tape -> printer/pubnch front-end for 709 ibsys). as part of move to 360 ... So, you are the one! When I got to FNB Lubbock in th

Re: IBM S/360 series operating systems history

2007-02-19 Thread Steele, Phil
I had not heard of TPS of DPS ( I dare say they were tape and disk versiond of the card based BPS.) As I recall BPS stood for Basic Programming Support, ( not System) As an operator, I did use BPS ( comlete with 3 card loader!). Although when I started, our installation was already converting f

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?

2007-02-19 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>I think what we are hearing is that my earlier suggestion that "maybe the >problem is your AP department" was not a red herring after all. Maybe! Maybe not. Our company does NET-30, and our vendors accept that. And, of the 15 we manage ourselves, rather than through our service provider, only 4

Re: TRSMAIN now supports spanned records

2007-02-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:01:29 +, Jan Vanbrabant wrote: > > Hi Tom, > > Re. you saying: > the new TRSMAIN supports spanned records so you can TERSE your SMF > data! Grab it at ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/s390/mvs/tools/packlib/ > Were you supposed to disclose that to someone who may no

Re: Really, really weird problem with IBMLink - PTF ordering

2007-02-19 Thread Brian Peterson
Well, that makes me think my problem is our firewall. I'm still trying to track down those guys to help me with this. Brian On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:04:04 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote: >On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:58:38 -0600, Brian Peterson wrote: > >>I'm having trouble with RECEIVE ORDER today. IBM su

Re: Really, really weird problem with IBMLink - PTF ordering

2007-02-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:58:38 -0600, Brian Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I'm having trouble with RECEIVE ORDER today. IBM support told me to check >my firewall > >The error I'm getting is: > >GIM69207S ** THE CONNECTION WITH THE SERVER FAILED. > java.net.ConnectException: >

Re: Really, really weird problem with IBMLink - PTF ordering

2007-02-19 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Peterson > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 3:59 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Really, really weird problem with IBMLink - PTF ordering > > > I'm having trouble with RE

Re: Really, really weird problem with IBMLink - PTF ordering

2007-02-19 Thread Brian Peterson
I'm having trouble with RECEIVE ORDER today. IBM support told me to check my firewall The error I'm getting is: GIM69207S ** THE CONNECTION WITH THE SERVER FAILED. java.net.ConnectException: javax.net.ssl.SSLProtocolException: end

Really, really weird problem with IBMLink - PTF ordering

2007-02-19 Thread McKown, John
I have tried three times to order a set of PTFs. They are to support the z9BC that we are planning to get (for z/OS 1.6). The first two times, I ordered the PTFs from the PSP application. Both times, I got some weird-*** VSE PTFs. The same set each time. OK, I figured that the link from PSP to the

Re: Access to the internet at DR site was Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?)

2007-02-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:48:27 -0400, Clark Morris wrote: > > Could you take a laptop with a wireless connection? Failing that, can > you make the case for having either one PC dedicated to mainframe use > and the Internet or at least one PC with Internet connection dedicated > to mainframe. At le

Re: Access to the internet at DR site was Re: License keys for ISV products(W...

2007-02-19 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 2/19/2007 3:19:22 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where do you recover? Every place I know of has PC's for access in the hot sites. >> Guess the 'big one' would be an EMP detonation. Probably maybe no internet at all. The other one that comes t

Re: Access to the internet at DR site was Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?)

2007-02-19 Thread Doug Fuerst
Where do you recover? Every place I know of has PC's for access in the hot sites. Doug snip> > >I don't really like email notification. For some reason, it rarely gets >to me. And I do most of the key related maintenance. Again, CA does the >best for this because I can get my

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?)

2007-02-19 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 6:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?) I have lived the pain, to the point of prod

Re: IBM S/360 series operating systems history

2007-02-19 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
Charles Mills wrote: TOS/360, as noted above, is essentially the same as DOS/360. Only if a tape is essentially the same as a disk! TOS's code base was largely common with DOS, and the programming APIs were a subset -- but the SYSRES was on tape! Believe it or not. The equivalent of an S806 to

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?

2007-02-19 Thread Clark Morris
On 19 Feb 2007 09:40:41 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >David Cole wrote: > >> RPOs, POs and invoices are all necessary parts of the A-P process, >> and the better a vendor understands, cooperates with and *assists* in >> the process, the more often: >>- The licensing will be ren

Re: TRSMAIN now supports spanned records

2007-02-19 Thread Jan Vanbrabant
Hi Tom, Re. you saying: the new TRSMAIN supports spanned records so you can TERSE your SMF data! Grab it at ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/s390/mvs/tools/packlib/ De TRSMAIN homepage http://techsupport.services.ibm.com/390/trsmain.html which was last updated January 2006 already mentions u

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?)

2007-02-19 Thread John Eells
See below... Binyamin Dissen wrote: Does IBM custom build the IFAPRD** for each customer? Yes. Every z/OS ServerPac or CBPDO order includes a custom-built IFAPRDxx member. Or are most products turned off, requiring the customer to activate those that were licensed? So far as I know, on

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?)

2007-02-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:22:08 +0200, Binyamin Dissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Does IBM custom build the IFAPRD** for each customer? > >Or are most products turned off, requiring the customer to activate those that >were licensed? > A sample IFAPRDxx comes pre-customized with ServerPac based on

Re: IBM S/360 series operating systems history

2007-02-19 Thread Clark Morris
On 19 Feb 2007 10:08:45 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >IBSYS was the operating system of the IBM 7094 and probably the 7090 7070 >7074. (36 bit word machine) I think you mean 7040 (there may have been a 7044). The 707x series was based on a 10 decimal digit word. > >There was an ear

Access to the internet at DR site was Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?)

2007-02-19 Thread Clark Morris
On 19 Feb 2007 07:59:00 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin >> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 9:53 AM >> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU >> Subject: Re: License keys for

Re: TRSMAIN now supports spanned records

2007-02-19 Thread Mark Pace
I'm wondering the same thing. Customers send us SMF data routinely in Terse format. On 2/19/07, Frank Krueger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Did it not support before - ? customers send me there smf data since years with trsmain . So it is not new - or miss i something ? Frank -- Mark Pace Mai

Re: TRSMAIN now supports spanned records

2007-02-19 Thread Frank Krueger
Did it not support before - ? customers send me there smf data since years with trsmain . So it is not new - or miss i something ? Frank From: Pinnacle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: TRSMAIN now supports spanned records FYI, the new TRSMAIN supports spanned records so you can TERSE your SMF data!

TRSMAIN now supports spanned records

2007-02-19 Thread Pinnacle
FYI, the new TRSMAIN supports spanned records so you can TERSE your SMF data! Grab it at ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/s390/mvs/tools/packlib/ Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instruction

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?)

2007-02-19 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:33:26 -0500 "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :>In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/18/2007 :> at 08:54 AM, "Eric N. Bielefeld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: :>>IFAPRDxx really isn't a key. You have to turn it on for each product :>>to use it, but there is no

Re: IBM S/360 series operating systems history

2007-02-19 Thread Charles Mills
> TOS/360, as noted above, is essentially the same as DOS/360. Only if a tape is essentially the same as a disk! TOS's code base was largely common with DOS, and the programming APIs were a subset -- but the SYSRES was on tape! Believe it or not. The equivalent of an S806 took about ten minutes:

Re: IBM S/360 series operating systems history

2007-02-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/18/2007 at 08:24 PM, Patrick Mulvany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >MVS - Mainly missing clarification of the 1960-1972 period >http://www.oshistory.net/metadot/index.pl?id=2238;isa=Category;op=show There are some serious errors. First, while OS/360 derived some conc

Re: IBM S/360 series operating systems history

2007-02-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/19/2007 at 06:22 PM, Ken Brick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Last DOS/VS R35 probably 1982 to be followed by the VSE series >(probably when the 4331/4341 become available) Yes; DOS/VSE was announced concurrently with ECPS:VSE, which was initially only available on th

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?)

2007-02-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/18/2007 at 08:54 AM, "Eric N. Bielefeld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >IFAPRDxx really isn't a key. You have to turn it on for each product >to use it, but there is no key that only works on your CPU. I'm not >sure just what IBM's reasoning behind IFAPRD is, Pre

Re: Literacy (was: IBM Sued)

2007-02-19 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jon Brock > > Yes, I would say it is. A dozen eggs, a dozen doughnuts, etc. But those entities usually come in a single container, with no explicit "connection" between the term "dozen" and the quantity 12. Consider

Re: z/OS 1.7 with JES2 and CA-View

2007-02-19 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Zelden > > On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:56:39 -0600, Chase, John wrote: > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Zelden > >> > >> [ snip ] > >> > >> Okay... another i

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?

2007-02-19 Thread Charles Mills
I think what we are hearing is that my earlier suggestion that "maybe the problem is your AP department" was not a red herring after all. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 10:5

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?

2007-02-19 Thread Charles Mills
Getting OT here but my experience managing a SW company was that direct deposit EASILY paid for itself by not having employees running to the bank on payday. Let's say you pay someone $80K/year. That's roughly $40/hour, and roughly $3077 per pay bi-weekly pay period. 30 minute run to the bank: $20

Re: C malloc question

2007-02-19 Thread Arie Kremer
many thanks On 2/19/07, Kirk Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Have you looked "__malloc24()" in the z/OS C++ Library reference manual? Arie Kremer wrote: > Hi all, > > does somebody know whether C routine running above the line (both RMODE & > AMODE) may get a memory under the line without usin

Re: Literacy (was: IBM Sued)

2007-02-19 Thread Jon Brock
Yes, I would say it is. A dozen eggs, a dozen doughnuts, etc. But is "dozen" sufficiently prevalant that that it's necessarily considered part of literacy? Jon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instruction

Re: z/OS 1.7 with JES2 and CA-View

2007-02-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:56:39 -0600, Chase, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Zelden >> >> [ snip ] >> >> Okay... another idea. Did someone change the JESLOG=NOSPIN >> to SPIN for the execution class the job(s) ra

Re: Finding where a module is being loaded from

2007-02-19 Thread Mark Zelden
It depends on which FINDMOD. There are at at least 2, one of which is mine (CBT FILE 434) that must run under ISPF in batch. Example: //FINDMOD JOB // //ALOCPROF EXEC PGM=IEFBR14

Re: z/OS 1.7 with JES2 and CA-View

2007-02-19 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Zelden > > [ snip ] > > Okay... another idea. Did someone change the JESLOG=NOSPIN > to SPIN for the execution class the job(s) ran in? No; JESLOG= is not specified at all, and the manual says the default is N

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?

2007-02-19 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 12:47 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives > are there? > > > In a recent note, To

Re: z/OS 1.7 with JES2 and CA-View

2007-02-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 09:57:04 -0600, Chase, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Zelden >> >> On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 09:21:21 -0600, Chase, John wrote: >> >> >[ snip ] >> > >> >We are at a loss to explain why this "segre

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?

2007-02-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Tony Harminc said: > Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:40:20 -0500 > > I think a decoupling of the keys issue and the payments is called for, and > indeed in the real world this happens much of the time. > IOW, the key is renewed whether you pay or not? Perhaps the A-P policy

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?

2007-02-19 Thread Howard Brazee
On 19 Feb 2007 10:40:52 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chase, John) wrote: >Indeed, that was the "main" reason cited by a former employer for >refusing to implement "direct deposit" of payroll checks. They budgeted >the projected interest they would earn during the "float" period between >us cashing o

Re: HSM recycle puzzle

2007-02-19 Thread Mark Pace
PRIVAT means it wants a scratch tape. The "-1" is really part of the next line. Eg "- 1 OFFLINE, NOT ACCESSABLE 0593" is really one message. What is the UNITNAME in HSM set up like? Does it only include device 0593? That would be my first guess. SETSYS UNITNAME(TAPELIB5) In HCD TAPELIB5 is

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?

2007-02-19 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tony Harminc > > [ snip ] > > Now as an ISV employee, I see many Fortune 500 companies that > have A-P departments who, as a matter of policy, push the > limits much further, and more often. You could probably attr

Literacy (was: IBM Sued)

2007-02-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Rick Fochtman said: > Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 11:09:55 -0600 > > Not to mention the intellectual paralytics coming from our public and > private schools. Like a McDonalds clerk here that doesn't know "half a > dozen" from six chicken McNuggets! > > A truly sorry state of

Re: New Level of Dataset Audit Facility (DAF) is Coming Soon

2007-02-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:04:04 -0800, Michael Cleary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Add Virtual SMF Records >001 001 - Virtual APFLST >001 002 - Virtual LNKLST >001 003 - Virtual LOADPARM >001 004 - Virtual LPALST >001 005 - Virtual Master Catalog >001 006 - Virtual PAGE >00

Re: HSM recycle puzzle

2007-02-19 Thread Bill Wilkie
It is very posssible that despite the fact that there appears to be several drives available, they may really be allocated to someone who has specified unit=(tape,,defer) This would allocate a drive but defer a mount until open is issued. Just because you don;t see a tape on it, doesn't mean it'

Re: HSM recycle puzzle

2007-02-19 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Pace > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 12:15 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: HSM recycle puzzle > > > For a few weeks now I have had a problem with my HSM RECYCLE ML2 > > F

Re: IBM S/360 series operating systems history

2007-02-19 Thread john gilmore
My apologies to Kirk Talman for rechristening him Kurt without authlorization. John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA _ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms http://www.NexTag.co

Re: IBM S/360 series operating systems history

2007-02-19 Thread john gilmore
Kurt Talman wrote: IBSYS was the operating system of the IBM 7094 and probably the 7090 7070 7074. (36 bit word machine) There was an early version(s) of OS that ran on the 7094. Two corrections: o Strike IBM 7070 and 7074; they were very different, business not scientific machines; and

HSM recycle puzzle

2007-02-19 Thread Mark Pace
For a few weeks now I have had a problem with my HSM RECYCLE ML2 F HSM,RECYCLE ML2EXECUTE ARC0830I RECYCLE COMMAND PROCESSING STARTING IEF244I HSM HSM - UNABLE TO ALLOCATE 1 UNIT(S) 300 AT LEAST 1 OFFLINE UNIT(S) NEEDED. IEF877E HSM NEEDS 1 UNIT(S) 301 FOR HSM SYS41934 FOR VOLUME PRIVA

Re: IBM S/360 series operating systems history

2007-02-19 Thread Kirk Talman
IBSYS was the operating system of the IBM 7094 and probably the 7090 7070 7074. (36 bit word machine) There was an early version(s) of OS that ran on the 7094. The original "production" version of OS was PCP (primary control program?). It was used on the 360/75 at Oak Ridge National Laboratory

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?)

2007-02-19 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Jon, I agree with you. CA's license key method is about as painless as I have seen. One gripe I have is with a different vendor, (SAS, are you listening?). I got my SAS key and applied it to my production LPAR but got busy and forgot to apply it to the sandbox. Several months later I needed

Re: IBM Sued

2007-02-19 Thread Howard Brazee
On 19 Feb 2007 09:30:33 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown, John) wrote: >> Since we all are "products of our environments", it's "obviously" >> somebody else's fault whenever we do something wrong. >> >> .About that Mojave Beachfront property I'

Re: C malloc question

2007-02-19 Thread Thomas David Rivers
Arie Kremer wrote: Hi all, does somebody know whether C routine running above the line (both RMODE & AMODE) may get a memory under the line without using any assembler code? In Systems/C - you can do it with a call to the __malloc24() function. - Dave Rivers - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?

2007-02-19 Thread Tony Harminc
David Cole wrote: > RPOs, POs and invoices are all necessary parts of the A-P process, > and the better a vendor understands, cooperates with and *assists* in > the process, the more often: >- The licensing will be renewed on time, >- Payment will be made on time, >- And licensing ke

Re: IBM Sued

2007-02-19 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 11:13 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: IBM Sued > > > -- > Since we all are "products of our

E-Week article "Long live the Mainframe"

2007-02-19 Thread Howard Brazee
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2096588,00.asp Opinion: Despite having long since lost its "star" status in the view of many IT watchers, the mainframe is showing continued growth and is beginning to claim a new generation of users. I try to stay away from clichés. But try as you mig

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?)

2007-02-19 Thread Reda, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Mark Zelden > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 10:35 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?) > > John, > > We migrated to the

Re: IBM Sued

2007-02-19 Thread Rick Fochtman
-- Since we all are "products of our environments", it's "obviously" somebody else's fault whenever we do something wrong. .About that Mojave Beachfront property I've got for sale... -

Re: Finding where a module is being loaded from

2007-02-19 Thread Knutson, Sam
Here is the JCL I have used before. //* //TSO EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01 //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSUDUMP DD SYSOUT=* //SHOWMVS DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSIN DD * PR

Re: IBM Sued

2007-02-19 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- Considering the emotional cripples I see turned out of the "elite and prestigious" all girls Catholic school my wife teaches at, it is no wonder that this nonsense is prevalent. -- Not to mention the int

Re: License keys for ISV products(Cole Software's view)

2007-02-19 Thread Jon Brock
This is where Charles' idea shows merit. A unified license key scheme could avoid some of the pain associated with the subject. Jon If we only dealt with 1 ISV, then we'd have few, perhaps no, problems too. But we deal with (at the last count) 57 ISVs, who supply us with several hundred produ

Re: License keys for ISV products(Cole Software's view)

2007-02-19 Thread Mullen, Patrick
If we only dealt with 1 ISV, then we'd have few, perhaps no, problems too. But we deal with (at the last count) 57 ISVs, who supply us with several hundred products. Each ISV has it's idiosyncracies, some don't use keys at all, some are very easy to contact and deal with, some others are less so. I

Sample JES2 exits support for /*AFTER, /*BEFORE, and /*CNTL JECL

2007-02-19 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi, Something cool I learned at SHARE. I didn't notice this as we have been using Thruput Manager to replace the Mellon Mods functionality for a long time but there is some interesting "useful" function in some recent JES2 sample exits. Look at SYS1.SHASSAMP members HASX54A, HASX04A, HASX20B, HAS

Re: z/OS 1.7 with JES2 and CA-View

2007-02-19 Thread Alan C. Field
We have VIEW R11 running on our 1.8 system. If I put an S beside the jobname I get it all in one file. If I put a ? I get the individual pieces - just like SDSF does. Alan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Mon

Re: License keys for ISV products(Cole Software's view)

2007-02-19 Thread Kirk Talman
Dave Cole writes emails as well as he writes software. But a small reinforcement. > Trust? A while back I worked for an ISV and was responsible for the "code program" for what was then the number one product on both total sales and velocity for the company. A Very Large Computer User (VLCU)

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?)

2007-02-19 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 9:53 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives > are there?) > > > In a recent note, "S

Re: z/OS 1.7 with JES2 and CA-View

2007-02-19 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Zelden > > On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 09:21:21 -0600, Chase, John wrote: > > >[ snip ] > > > >We are at a loss to explain why this "segregation" of "jcl stuff" into > >separate CA-View members is occurring. We underst

Re: VTOC rename

2007-02-19 Thread Walter Marguccio
From: Bruce Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > But I think you are correct about the SERNO field. I have a tool which > can modify the field, so I will try to run a test. This is how the VTOCIX was listed using IEHLIST: -DATA SET NAME--- CREATED DATE.EXP FILE TYPE SMS.IND EXT DS.VOL1

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?)

2007-02-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" said: > Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 13:40:13 -0500 > > >It might help if the installation process prompted for an E-mail > >address of contact to notify automatically prior to expiry. Less > >help on z/OS than on other systems, because z/OS has les

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?)

2007-02-19 Thread Jon Brock
I realize this is heresy, but I like the way CA does it. Parts of it, anyway. We get warnings before a key expires. Once we get a new key, we add it to our options file in Common Services (formerly CA-90's, etc.) and rerun CAS9 -- no pain, no downtime. I have no problem with vendor implement

Re: z/OS 1.7 with JES2 and CA-View

2007-02-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 09:21:21 -0600, Chase, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi, All, > >Yesterday we rolled out z/OS 1.7 to a Production LPAR previously running >z/OS 1.5, and have noticed a change in the archiving of batch job output >in CA-View. With 1.5, all "jcl-type" output (JESMSGLG, JESJCL

Re: SDSF -- Context for [R]FIND?

2007-02-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Dave Salt said: > Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:24:44 + > > In an edit session, enter EDSET on the command line. You'll see a panel with > Thanks! Works great for Edit and View. And an unexpected bonus: I see I can turn off "Confirm Cancel". And everything sticks be

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?)

2007-02-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:02:38 -0500, Reda, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >We offer multiple ways for the customer to install and maintain their license keys. The recommended method is having the keys in a sequential data set. This way modifications to the license keys can be as easy as updatin

z/OS 1.7 with JES2 and CA-View

2007-02-19 Thread Chase, John
Hi, All, Yesterday we rolled out z/OS 1.7 to a Production LPAR previously running z/OS 1.5, and have noticed a change in the archiving of batch job output in CA-View. With 1.5, all "jcl-type" output (JESMSGLG, JESJCL, JESYSMSG together with SYSPRINT, SYSOUT, etc.) was archived in CA-View as a sin

GDPS and EMC Disks

2007-02-19 Thread Peter Gammage
Anyone out there using EMC disks and managing the mirroring with GDPS? We are about to migrate away from IBM ESS Disks managed by GDPS to EMC DMX3000 disks managed by GDPS. We are told it works as the DMX emulates PPRC but we are interested in anyone who is actually doing it. Peter Gammage S

Re: SMF Record Types 63, 67, 68 and 69

2007-02-19 Thread Michael Babcock
Beware, many FDA regulated companies must keep SMF records for many, many years. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the a

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?)

2007-02-19 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 2/19/2007 8:02:36 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That doesn't solve the problem for either the customer or the vendor. Consider DR. >> Seems like if RSA cards are portable between cell phones should be able to specify a backup decoder ring-wavin

Re: IBM Sued

2007-02-19 Thread Robert Justice
well, given the current state of affairs, why should we expect kids to have any accountability whatsoever? After all, they see their parents getting the shaft at work by corporate america that sends jobs overseas without a second thought, without giving a about the american worker, yea, t

Re: License keys for ISV products

2007-02-19 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 12:24 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: License keys for ISV products > > > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > on 02/16/2007 >

Re: C malloc question

2007-02-19 Thread Kirk Wolf
Have you looked "__malloc24()" in the z/OS C++ Library reference manual? Arie Kremer wrote: Hi all, does somebody know whether C routine running above the line (both RMODE & AMODE) may get a memory under the line without using any assembler code? ---

Re: IBM Sued

2007-02-19 Thread Doug Fuerst
My wife went from a DR Coordinator to a math teacher. You would not be wondering about this if you heard what is going on in the schools. No accountability at all. No responsibility, it is always someone else's fault, or it's "not fair." Considering the emotional cripples I see turned out of th

Re: License keys for ISV products

2007-02-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/16/2007 at 03:00 PM, "McKown, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >CA's EKG code for disaster testing is fairly nice. The code may be nice, but that doesn't help if you can't get a new key in a timely fashion. Have they fixed the problems that they were having half a

Re: K E,1 Alternatives

2007-02-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/16/2007 at 01:54 PM, Ed Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Is there a better procedure than this for dealing with the flood, Do E K,1 one time and then use the retry key. It's still a lot of typing, but it eliminates some keystrokes and doesn't make you redefine a PF

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?

2007-02-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/17/2007 at 06:52 PM, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >It might help if the installation process prompted for an E-mail >address of contact to notify automatically prior to expiry. Less >help on z/OS than on other systems, because z/OS has less consistent

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?)

2007-02-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/17/2007 at 10:40 AM, Charles Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >We jointly discovered that our common distributor had stolen tens of >thousands of dollars from us >Was it Ronald Reagan who said "trust, but verify"? He quoted an old Russian saying. >Even if a more

Re: License keys for ISV products

2007-02-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/16/2007 at 04:22 PM, Bruno Sugliani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >But we don't care ( sorry about that ) about the sharks robbing the >poor salesmen I wouldn't go that far. I certainly care more about being able to use the software I pay for than I do with whether so

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?)

2007-02-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/17/2007 at 07:27 AM, David Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >From a user's perspective, if the ISV is timely in his delivery of >license keys, why is it a big deal? That's the wrong question. How can the user *know* that the ISV will *always* be timely in his deliver

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?)

2007-02-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/17/2007 at 11:41 AM, Ed Finnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >The silver bullet would be a magic decoder ring on the HMC that says >this can run and this can't. That doesn't solve the problem for either the customer or the vendor. Consider DR. -- Shmuel (Seym

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?)

2007-02-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/17/2007 at 04:18 PM, Charles Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Ted, if you haven't gotten why the trust model is inadequate from my >past posts, and David Cole's, and Dave Salt's, and Russell Witt's, >then my explaining it again probably won't do the trick either.

Re: zLinux listserver?

2007-02-19 Thread Ceruti, Gerard G
Jan http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Regards Gerard Ceruti -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jan Vanbrabant Sent: 19 February 2007 02:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: zLinux listserver? Hi, Is there a separ

zLinux listserver?

2007-02-19 Thread Jan Vanbrabant
Hi, Is there a separate zLinux listserver or forum at your knowledge? We are going to start investigating DB2 Connect on z/Linux IFL. Jan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROT

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