We are trying to flash from secondary to tertiary storage and receive the
following error. From what I can see it looks like (reas=82) Wait limit
expired for startup of the indicated partner ANTUXFQE instance. The timeout
was about 30 seconds after the FC started.
18:01:39 | 'XRC='EDCPMSTR
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Subject: Re: How Does DFhsm and Flashcopy Work?
Yes, though I don't know about using command backup, I usually use HSM
autodump. However, use of FRBACKUP will require a certain amount of
setup,
so it is not appropriate
FLASHCOPY Volumes
George,
Do you have DATASETRESTORE or NODATASETRESTORE specified in your Define
Dumpclass?
David O'Brien
NIH Contractor
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From: George Rodriguez [mailto:george.rodrig...@palmbeachschools.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 10:50 AM
To: IBM
Message-
From: George Rodriguez [mailto:george.rodrig...@palmbeachschools.org]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 6:15 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DFhsm HRECOVER Dataset from FLASHCOPY Volumes
Is there no way that I can use the backup taken by DFhsm to restore these
files? I really need
, August 18, 2011 6:15 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DFhsm HRECOVER Dataset from FLASHCOPY Volumes
Is there no way that I can use the backup taken by DFhsm to restore these
files? I really need HELP
Thanks. . .
*George Rodriguez*
*Specialist II - IT Solutions*
*Application
Subject: Re: DFhsm HRECOVER Dataset from FLASHCOPY Volumes
Not sure if this is an actual problem with the code, but I guess I can ask
them a question on how to use it. The other problem I might have is support.
I'm on v1.9 of z/OS it may be out of support by now. We're working on
getting v1.11
18, 2011 8:16 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DFhsm HRECOVER Dataset from FLASHCOPY Volumes
I would think not, but you haven't gotten a lot of feedback on this post (at
least not publicly).
David O'Brien
NIH Contractor
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From: George Rodriguez
FLASHCOPY Volumes
I would think not, but you haven't gotten a lot of feedback on this post
(at least not publicly).
David O'Brien
NIH Contractor
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From: George Rodriguez [mailto:george.rodrig...@palmbeachschools.org]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 8:12 AM
Of
George Rodriguez
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:42 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DFhsm HRECOVER Dataset from FLASHCOPY Volumes
Hi Bob,
So how do you restore 2 files from a full volume backup of a flashed volume?
*George Rodriguez
...)
HTH,
Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company
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Behalf Of George Rodriguez
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:42 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: DFhsm HRECOVER Dataset from FLASHCOPY Volumes
George,
I think the best way to handle this is to restore the datasets w/DSS outside
of HSM. HSM isn't very good at this, since the datasets weren't cataloged
on the flashcopied volumes when you dumped them, and HSM doesn't know you
did the flashcopy. This is why you need to move to FRBACKUP
There are daily jobs that run that flash copies PPRD00-PPRD88 to
XPRD00-XPRD88. I then use DFSMShsm SEND command to BACKVOL VOL(XPRDnn)
DUMP(DUMPCLASS(DAILYDR)). The output dataset is on VTL with the name
DFHSM.DMP.DAILYDR.VXPRDnn.D11223.T311301. What I'm trying (unsuccessfully)
to do is HRECOVER
: DFhsm HRECOVER Dataset from FLASHCOPY Volumes
There are daily jobs that run that flash copies PPRD00-PPRD88 to
XPRD00-XPRD88. I then use DFSMShsm SEND command to BACKVOL VOL(XPRDnn)
DUMP(DUMPCLASS(DAILYDR)). The output dataset is on VTL with the name
DFHSM.DMP.DAILYDR.VXPRDnn.D11223.T311301. What
: DFhsm HRECOVER Dataset from FLASHCOPY Volumes
George,
Do you have DATASETRESTORE or NODATASETRESTORE specified in your Define
Dumpclass?
David O'Brien
NIH Contractor
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From: George Rodriguez [mailto:george.rodrig...@palmbeachschools.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011
...@palmbeachschools.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 10:50 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: DFhsm HRECOVER Dataset from FLASHCOPY Volumes
There are daily jobs that run that flash copies PPRD00-PPRD88 to
XPRD00-XPRD88. I then use DFSMShsm SEND command to BACKVOL VOL(XPRDnn)
DUMP(DUMPCLASS(DAILYDR
HRECOVER Dataset from FLASHCOPY Volumes
George,
Do you have DATASETRESTORE or NODATASETRESTORE specified in your Define
Dumpclass?
David O'Brien
NIH Contractor
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From: George Rodriguez [mailto:george.rodrig...@palmbeachschools.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011
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Sent: Wed May 04 17:26:03 2011
Subject: Re: How Does DFhsm and Flashcopy Work?
Yes
When a Flashcopy of volumes are done and commands are sent to DFhsm to DUMP
the all the flashed volumes, how do I recover a lost dataset. I honestly
thought that DFhsm would know that this procedure was done and it would use
the flashed copy to recover the dataset, but when I use ISMF to either
When you do the FlashCopy yourself like this, then HSM doesn't know that it
is a backup of PTST00, so he doesn't look to this backup to restore a
dataset on PTST00. It looks to me like you should be using FRBACKUP for
this, so that it is HSM that is doing the FlashCopy, and he knows what
Scott,
So to paraphrase what you're saying, if I use FRBACKUP to perform the
Flashcopy then I use the DFhsm commands to backup the FRBACKUP volumes,
DFhsm will know that the backup is on flash copied backup. It that correct?
*
*
*George Rodriguez*
*Specialist II - IT Solutions*
*Application
to paraphrase what you're saying, if I use FRBACKUP to perform the
Flashcopy then I use the DFhsm commands to backup the FRBACKUP volumes,
DFhsm will know that the backup is on flash copied backup. It that correct?
*
*
*George Rodriguez*
*Specialist II - IT Solutions*
*Application Support
: Wed May 04 17:26:03 2011
Subject: Re: How Does DFhsm and Flashcopy Work?
Yes, though I don't know about using command backup, I usually use HSM
autodump. However, use of FRBACKUP will require a certain amount of setup,
so it is not appropriate for ad-hoc uses.
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 1:33 PM
batch job. It just doesn't have a foreground option.
Perhaps the FlashCopy processing you require is in those panels.
All,
We have migrated our DASD and our new vendor utilized
FLASHCOPY.
We have CA-DISK DFDSS only.
I've been using TSO =6 and even Batch TSO.
Is there any ISPF panels
Ok...thanks all...I'll off an coding now
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Subject: Re: IBM FLASHCOPY interface ( is there a no cost solution
[mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of John Ticic
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 4:05 AM
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Subject: Re: IBM FLASHCOPY interface ( is there a no cost solution)
If you feel like doing some coding, you can use the ANTRQST API. Take
a look at z/OS DFSMSdfp Advanced Copy
be done). The
rexx is setup by a switch to generate jcl for IBM/Flashcopy, STK/Snapshot, or,
EMC/Timefinder.
The panel looks like it's from IBM. The Rexx I inherited and rewrote years ago
to use the same panel. I'm sure it can be 'tuned'. Not sure about listing the
panel. But I'm sure
a foreground option.
Perhaps the FlashCopy processing you require is in those panels.
Ron
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W dniu 2010-07-09 20:29, Clark, Kevin pisze:
All,
We have migrated our DASD and our new vendor utilized FLASHCOPY.
We have CA-DISK DFDSS only.
I've been using TSO =6 and even Batch TSO.
Is there any ISPF panels or REXX freebies available ?
No. There is a set of TSO commands (FCn
All,
We have migrated our DASD and our new vendor utilized FLASHCOPY.
We have CA-DISK DFDSS only.
I've been using TSO =6 and even Batch TSO.
Is there any ISPF panels or REXX freebies available ?
Kevn
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Hello forumers,
first let me apologize for the not enough information in my query.
I'll try to elaborate customer environment and requirements:
1. z/OS 1.9
2. DB2 V8
3. CICS V3
4. Disks IBM DS8700
Few insights of my own.
1. DB2 has a utility called System Backup which use FlashCopy to enable
in my query.
I'll try to elaborate customer environment and requirements:
1. z/OS 1.9
2. DB2 V8
3. CICS V3
4. Disks IBM DS8700
Few insights of my own.
1. DB2 has a utility called System Backup which use FlashCopy to enable copies
of DB2 objects (databases and tables) un-disruptive (DB2 create
Radoslaw.
FlashCopy is supported by at least two hardware vendors for several
generations of storage platform.
1. Flashcopy is (was) related to specific hardware. It's not good idea
to tie application with DASD vendor and have no warranty about the
future of the implementations (see
Hello Forumers,
A customer is looking for references of installation which are using
FLASHCOPY or other similar technology to deploy
(several times in a year) masive updates to their application avoiding
disruption to the service for the end users.
Could you please share your experience
Is this for strictly VSAM databases? Or DB2? Or Other?
Is your desire to create a test DataBase, back it up (using FLashcopy) and
put it on a different LPAR into production?
Or are you looking to put it on a different op/sys like AIX or Solaris?
If strictly mainframe, what is your current z
databases? Or DB2? Or Other?
Is your desire to create a test DataBase, back it up (using FLashcopy) and
put it on a different LPAR into production?
Or are you looking to put it on a different op/sys like AIX or Solaris?
If strictly mainframe, what is your current z/OS level? And what hardware
W dniu 2010-06-20 17:01, Arye Shemer pisze:
Hello Forumers,
A customer is looking for references of installation which are using
FLASHCOPY or other similar technology to deploy
(several times in a year) masive updates to their application avoiding
disruption to the service for the end users
Hi List,
I have a FlashCopy question about withdrawing FC relationships. To set
the stage, I have a DMX-4 and a DS6800 in my environment. Every night I
run a job that does FlashCopy full volume copies of all my volumes to a
complete set of target volumes using copy commands like this:
COPY
it).
Pommier, Rex R. rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com 3/26/2010 1:58 PM
Hi List,
I have a FlashCopy question about withdrawing FC relationships. To set
the stage, I have a DMX-4 and a DS6800 in my environment. Every night I
run a job that does FlashCopy full volume copies of all my volumes
To get around this problem a few years ago I wrote a offline volume dump
program that is just as fast as the ones from IBM and Innovation. They have
better restore capabilities since I currently have to restore the whole
volume, but it's only a matter of time, I'll get it done.
BRian
Hi Everyone,
whenever a flashcopy of a volume is done using ADRDSSU, the target volume
goes offline,
it has the same VOLID as the source volume, now my question is as to how can
I backup the
target volume to tape ?, we do not have FDR.
will appreciate any input
Frank
to
manually manage the fact that the datasets contained on the relabelled
volume are not catalogued.
Stephen Mednick
Computer Supervisory Services
Sydney, Australia
Asia/Pacific representatives for
Innovation Data Processing, Inc.
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Hi Everyone,
whenever a flashcopy
Frank,
Shame you don't have Innovation's FDRInstant, as you say.
This product has the interesting ability to both utilise Flashcopy (or
TimeFinder, ShadowImage etc) and then take a normal backup even though the
duplicate volume is now offline.
Otherwise, I think Stephen's suggestion of clipping
Francis.
Do a flashcopy ADRDSSU job without COPYVOLID. So your target volume keeps
online and you can back it up. When you want to recover you have to copy
your volume back to the original labeled volume. Hope this helps.
Reiner Markus
subparameter DUMPCON
how can I backup the target volume to tape ?
subparameter DUMPCOND of the COPY command is your friend.
Try to flash your volume with the following jcl:
//FLASHEXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD *
Yes, DUMPCONDitioning is your friend. This is the way HSM uses FlashCopy, this
is exactly what it was created for. When you restore a volume dumped this way,
it will restore the original volser. If you have HSM, look into the FRBACKUP
function to see how HSM can manage the entire process
AM
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Subject: Flashcopy
Hi Everyone,
whenever a flashcopy of a volume is done using ADRDSSU, the target volume
goes offline,
it has the same VOLID as the source volume, now my question is as to how can
I backup the
target volume to tape ?, we do not have FDR.
will appreciate
We clip them to a different name and then bring them online.
Lucy Arnold
Storage Manager
U.C. Davis Medical Center
916-734-5498
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Dave,
If you haven't found it yet, here's an excellent Redpaper on FlashCopy SE:
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpapers/pdfs/redp4368.pdf
You're right, FC SE will help you out a lot with your backups. And your fears
about the repository are true. Be conservative about your storage estimates
DUMPCONDITIONING is a relatively new parameter compared with some, but
it has been around for at least a decade. We've been using it for
point-in-time DFDSS backups with FlashCopy since at least 2001. It
enables you to keep the target volser unchanged so it can stay online.
for the DUMP, yet
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From: Tom Longfellow tlongfel...@verizon.net
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: DS8700 Feature FlashCopy SE
I have no statistics for how widely it is used. But I would be surprised
to find out that SE
in
2000, they promised us virtual architecture in the SHARK and then reneged.
It ain't virtual architecture, but it's close. SE FlashCopy should lower
costs for DR backup significantly, since you won't have to double your
DASD farm anymore just to SnapShot your entire DASD image.
Regards,
Tom Conley
Not sure what the 'SE' is
SE is Space Efficient:. We write code to exploit it, but we don't use it for
any practical purpose.
Bob Shannon
Rocket Software
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Not sure what the 'SE' is, but we use Flashcopy on both of our DS8100's. It is
a little cumbersome, but it seems to work pretty well to take a PIT copy of any
number of volumes in that unit.
Flashcopy can be a key component of a pretty slick DR strategy with XRC and
GDPS. There is a Redbook
FlashCopy SE
Not sure what the 'SE' is, but we use Flashcopy on both of our DS8100's. It is
a little cumbersome, but it seems to work pretty well to take a PIT copy of any
number of volumes in that unit.
Flashcopy can be a key component of a pretty slick DR strategy with XRC and
GDPS
Hal Merritt pisze:
Not sure what the 'SE' is, but we use Flashcopy on both of our DS8100's.
SE = Space Efficient. That sugests something like IBM/STK Snapshot. It
is *similar* to the snapshot.
It is a little cumbersome, but it seems to work pretty well to take a PIT copy of any number
While reviewing the features of the DS8700, our IBM business partner stated
the feature, FlashCopy SE, is not widely used on z/OS. Is any using this
feature on z/OS and can anyone share any experiences with the feature. Your
responses will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Dave
Yes it does.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of
Mike Shorkend
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:36 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Any users of FlashCopy with Hitachi
We use Flashcopy on a USP600
to 1.) see if that's true and 2.) give us some customer reference
to users using FlashCopy. Answers came back that USP users use FDR and no
USP users use FlashCopy. Not to impune anyone's veracity but our
experience has indicated that it's best to check and/or get another
opinion concerning
Shadowimage
with only the PPRC commands, but the features and functions are limited to
whatever can be enabled through that limited API.
I'm not in sales, so don't hang me if I'm wrong, but I believe FlashCopy is
a separately licensed feature on the USP-V and not an add-on feature to
Shadowimage
snip
FlashCopy on HDS provides all its capabilities through the same host API
as IBM storage
unsnip
After our various experiences with the USP-V, we'd like to 'see' customers
who have used the feature before we pay for a feature and then find out
that we can't use it.
snip
The best way
We use Flashcopy on a USP600 and it is also available on the USP-V machines.
It is an additional priced feature.
It is almost compatible with IBM Flashcopy. The one missing feature that we
have found is that it does not support the dfdss FCTOPPRCPRIMARY parameter.
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:47
All:
Message ADR935W provides an error code that doesn't seem to be documented, does
anyone out there have an explanation for this particular code?
ADR935W (001)-T0MI (01) A FAILURE OCCURRED WHILE ATTEMPTING TO PERFORM FAST
REPLICATION FOR VOLUME SH2029.
DIAGNOSTIC INFORMATION:
: Thu 4/23/2009 3:59 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Undocumented Flashcopy Error
All:
Message ADR935W provides an error code that doesn't seem to be documented, does
anyone out there have an explanation for this particular code?
ADR935W (001)-T0MI (01) A FAILURE OCCURRED WHILE ATTEMPTING
at BCM - I get a lot of positive feedback about the ISPF interface and
the simplicity incorporating the COPYGROUPS into REXX.
FlashCopy provides some innovative integration with DFSMS STORGRUPS and
DFSMShsm, as well as Dataset Level capabilities that may be a better
mousetrap for your shop. You do
]
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 1:48 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Is this PPRC or Flashcopy?
There are many ways to skin a cat. You can Flashcopy first and then PPRC
it. Or flashcopy and PPRC from same source (set of volumes).
Yes, but.
My understanding of the OP's question
snip
The C* commands above are documented as PPRC commands. No mention of
Flashcopy. So why is my hardware vendor demanding that we be licensed for
Flashcopy?
unsnip
We're in the throes of this now. We have a UPS V with ShadowCopy but to
use FlashCopy, we need to get HDS' 'compatible
* commands above are documented as PPRC commands. No mention of Flashcopy.
So why is my hardware vendor demanding that we be licensed for Flashcopy? Can
anyone explain this to me?
Hardware is a HDS 9990V re-marketed by Sun.
Regards,
Dave O'Brien
David
It is PPRC . HDS calls it True Copy.
You do not need Flashcopy for this to work.
Mike
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:04 PM, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
obrie...@mail.nih.gov wrote:
To provide a mirror image for our DB2 farm, my shop years ago established a
procedure which used
: Is this PPRC or Flashcopy?
David
It is PPRC . HDS calls it True Copy.
You do not need Flashcopy for this to work.
Mike
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:04 PM, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
obrie...@mail.nih.gov wrote:
To provide a mirror image for our DB2 farm, my shop years ago established a
procedure
in fact - according to our storage folks, the two do not play well
together
we flashcopy volumes for clone subsytem purposes, and PPRC for D/R
purposes - but our storage folks tell us that it is difficult to PPRC
flashcopy *target* volumes
Chris Hoelscher
Senior IDMS DB2 Database
we flashcopy volumes for clone subsytem purposes, and PPRC for D/R purposes -
but our storage folks tell us that it is difficult to PPRC
flashcopy *target* volumes
That is not the design.
You PPRC then you FlashCopy.
Not, the other way around.
FlashCopy Target Volumes are off-line.
-
Too busy
Ted MacNEIL pisze:
we flashcopy volumes for clone subsytem purposes, and PPRC for D/R purposes - but our storage folks tell us that it is difficult to PPRC
flashcopy *target* volumes
That is not the design.
You PPRC then you FlashCopy.
Not, the other way around.
FlashCopy Target Volumes
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:14:32 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote:
we flashcopy volumes for clone subsytem purposes, and PPRC for D/R
purposes - but our storage folks tell us that it is difficult to PPRC
flashcopy *target* volumes
That is not the design.
You PPRC then you FlashCopy
There are many ways to skin a cat. You can Flashcopy first and then PPRC
it. Or flashcopy and PPRC from same source (set of volumes).
Yes, but.
My understanding of the OP's question was that they wanted to remote copy off
of the flashcopy.
You can't skin that cat.
If I misread, sorry.
-
Too
Ron Hawkins wrote:
[...]
The unfortunate thing in all this is that FlashCopy require the target
volumes to be genned to the same system as the Source volume, or the command
won't work. These means the duplicate volume time bomb is sitting around
waiting to happen.
Unless you have wise IODF
Radoslaw,
Wise, but not foolproof. The difference I was highlighting is that the
Shadowimage volumes, and I think Timefinder, do not have to be defined to
the system at all. Therefore they can never be accidentally bought online.
Ron
Unless you have wise IODF configuration. Wise = target
Ron Hawkins wrote:
Radoslaw,
Wise, but not foolproof. The difference I was highlighting is that the
Shadowimage volumes, and I think Timefinder, do not have to be defined to
the system at all. Therefore they can never be accidentally bought online.
Well,
I strongly prefer to have an option to
John,
To be more precise, does IBM have a product that can backup a FlashCopy
target. The answer is yes - DFSMSdss using DUMPCONDITIONING.
What I think I am hearing hear is that with the basic FDR product you would
use the capability to backup offline volumes, meaning you don't need another
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Subject: Re: Info on Setting Up an Lpar for Flashcopy
SNIP
What I think I am hearing hear
system.
Setting up a 2nd LPAR for backup was something a few shops did back in the
early days of Snapshot, TimeFinder and Shadowimage, but DUMPCONDITIONING
with FlashCopy was developed to get around the need for a backup LPAR. Ipso
facto you no longer need a 2nd LPAR if you have FlashCopy compatible
Greg Shirey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The DUMPCONDITIONING parameter of the DFSMSdss COPY FULL command allows
both the source and target volumes to remain online after a full volume
copy operation, thus creating an interim copy for a subsequent dump to
tape that can be done using the same
accomplish everything
you
want to do from a single system.
Setting up a 2nd LPAR for backup was something a few shops did
back in the
early days of Snapshot, TimeFinder and Shadowimage, but
DUMPCONDITIONING
with FlashCopy was developed to get around the need for a backup
LPAR. Ipso
facto you
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Ron,
Thanks for the information. As I said
Processing, Inc.
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Sent: Sunday, 7 September 2008 3:05 AM
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Ron,
Thanks
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
Eric,
DFDSS should be part of DFSMS. FDR is a pay for.
No, DFSMSdss is a priced optional feature, presumably because of the
existence of at least one comparable ISV product (like FDR).
So you
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
Eric,
DFDSS should be part of DFSMS. FDR
: Re: Info on Setting Up an Lpar for Flashcopy
Ron,
Thanks for the information. As I said in an earlier post, we
don't have DFDSS, so I can't do dumpconditioning. I will
take your statement, This is the problem with the 2nd LPAR
backup method - it's an accident waiting to happen
On Sun, 7 Sep 2008, Stephen Mednick wrote:
Similarly, DFSMShsm DFSMSrmm are priced optional features too.
Stephen Mednick
Computer Supervisory Services
Sydney, Australia
as is DFSMStvs (transactional VSAM).
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Ron,
Thanks for all the good information. We only have one Shark box. The Lpar I
am setting up will only be used for backups, and will probably be shut down the
rest of the week. Actually, I kind of like the idea of nothing shared. All we
would need would be a separate pool of 3590 tape
We just installed a new Shark DS8100 with Flashcopy. I was looking for
information on setting up an Lpar to copy all of the Flashed disks to tape. We
back up all of our DASD every week. We would like to be able to mount the
flashed copies in a separate Lpar using the same volsers
=YES
DASD. You need both sets of addresses genned somewhere to do the
flashcopy from MVS. (It can also be done from the DS/8000 HMC; you really
don't want to go there!)
This is just one method; there are others that will work just as well
with Flashcopy. I was looking for
information on setting up an Lpar to copy all of the Flashed disks to
tape. We back up all of our DASD every week. We would like to be able
to mount the flashed copies in a separate Lpar using the same volsers as
the original, and then back them up. I have searched
Greg,
The backup (Flash) will be done from the production Lpar. Because all the
volsers on the backup copies are the same, we want to do the backups to tape on
a separate lpar. I haven't worked with flashcopy before, so there may be
something I am missing.
Eric
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Subject: Re: Info on Setting Up an Lpar for Flashcopy
Greg,
The backup (Flash) will be done from the production Lpar. Because all
the volsers on the backup
Back in the Y2K frenzy, we set up our Time Machine by using FlashCopy
(actually SNAP, since it was a good ol' RVA) and it worked quite well. The
first step was to rename the offline target pack(s), vary it on, then we
SNAPped the source volume(s), which automagically varied the target back
We just installed a new Shark DS8100 with Flashcopy. I was looking for
information on setting up an Lpar to copy all of the Flashed disks to
tape. We back up all of our DASD every week. We would like to be able to
mount the flashed copies in a separate Lpar using the same volsers
Thanks Greg. I hadn't found that book yet, and am downloading it now.
Unfortuneatly, we don't have DFDSS here, only FDR. This book looks like it
will help me.
Eric
Greg Shirey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The DUMPCONDITIONING parameter of the DFSMSdss COPY FULL command allows
both the
Martinez, Frank J wrote:
Back in the Y2K frenzy, we set up our Time Machine by using FlashCopy
(actually SNAP, since it was a good ol' RVA) and it worked quite well. The first step
was to rename the offline target pack(s), vary it on, then we SNAPped the source
volume(s), which automagically
Eric,
Using FDR to flash the volume.
//FLASH EXEC PGM=FDRABR,REGION=0M,COND=(0,NE)
//TAPE1 DD DUMMY,LABEL=RETPD=15
//TAPE2 DD DUMMY,LABEL=RETPD=15
//SYSPRIN1DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSPRIN2DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSPRIN3DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSPRINTDD SYSOUT=*
Eric,
DFDSS should be part of DFSMS. FDR is a pay for.
So you should already have it in house.
Lizette
: Re: Info on Setting Up an Lpar for Flashcopy
Thanks Greg. I hadn't found that book yet, and am downloading it now.
Unfortuneatly, we don't have DFDSS here, only FDR. This book looks
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