ley wrote:
On 25/06/2021 2:34 pm, David Crayford wrote:
If you've got the XLC 2.4.1 it will will be installed in the
/usr/lpp/cbc/xlclang/exe directory. It's 64-bit only. We use this
compiler exclusively now. It's really cool and has neat features such
as type checking printf() forma
On 25/06/2021 12:44 pm, Ed Jaffe wrote:
On 6/24/2021 9:34 PM, David Crayford wrote:
If you've got the XLC 2.4.1 it will will be installed in the
/usr/lpp/cbc/xlclang/exe directory. It's 64-bit only. We use this
compiler exclusively now. It's really cool and has neat feature
, Andrew Rowley wrote:
On 25/06/2021 1:45 pm, David Crayford wrote:
Interesting! Try compiling using xlclang++ instead of xlc and see how
you go. xlclang++ has a far superior standard library.
I'm not sure whether it is installed on my system. I tried it and it
fails, I think it is lookin
Interesting! Try compiling using xlclang++ instead of xlc and see how
you go. xlclang++ has a far superior standard library.
Nothing matches the speed of C :)
mckoss-c830;14259;5.0;1;algorithm=wheel,faithful=yes,bits=1
On 25/06/2021 10:22 am, Andrew Rowley wrote:
Dave Plummer has a series of S
t". Maybe there are gaps in my REXX knowledge.
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On 24/06/2021 9:44 pm, Jeremy Nicoll wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jun 2021, at 01:57, David Crayford wrote:
For example, to create and ISPF in Lua you instantiate and ISPF object
and then communicate with it by calling methods
https://lua4z.github.io/Lua4z/modules/ispf.html.
That shows eg that you can
hat REXX supports.
Would a port of OoRexx readily support ADDRESS SYSCALL, ADDRESS SDSF,
ADDRESS ISREDIT, , perhaps using replaceable packages,unmodified?
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On 24/06/2021 9:23 am, Seymour J Metz wrote:
You invoke ISPF. Y
x v5 has introduced array types which is long
overdue. Stem variables are hash tables so performance is not great when
iterating.
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On 23/06/2021 10:38 am, Seymour J Metz wrote
ones in Perl
and REXX, so why should I be surprised by large applications in, e.g., Python,
Ruby?
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ing app Instagram is written in
Python? It's staggering to imagine that what we would consider a
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On 22/06/2021 8:55 pm, Seymour J Metz wrote:
What distinguishes REXX is not syntactic sugar but the plumbing that enables
close coupling of scripts with applications. Lua is missing that.
Maybe. But I can't think of an environment that REXX runs in that Lua
can't. I could port Python to run i
Response_Time",
color = "blue",
type = "nt",
format = function(self, value)
return string.format("%.6f", value)
end
},
Column "suspend" {
width = 30,
justify = "right",
label = "Suspend_Time",
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On 21/06/2021 2:08 am, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
Do you want to report every error, or leave after the first one?
I wish
On 19/06/2021 12:23 am, Tom Brennan wrote:
Side track to logic blocks: I like matching up indentations on the
do/end instead of if/end. And the same in C-style languages such as:
if (something == 10)
{
run some stuff;
run more stuff;
}
This is referred to as Allman brace styl
On 21/06/2021 2:08 am, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
Do you want to report every error, or leave after the first one?
I wish Rexx supported multi-line strings.
I wish Rexx would let me:
do List = "ssn ssx stm wcn wcx wln wlx wld" while List<>""
parse var List L List
/* etc. */
On 10/06/2021 9:28 pm, Ed Jaffe wrote:
Dravo found time to update the HLASM SPMs to support the
compare-and-branch instructions.
He's a great guy!
We tested them for him and they worked great.
IBM incorporated those enhancements and all is well...
Kudos!
On 6/10/2021 1:34 AM,
On 9/06/2021 10:19 pm, Rob Scott wrote:
Response from HLASM Development (Thanks Jonathan Scott) :
Is HLASM supported out of Hursley now? I presented at the Perth Z
Community Meetup a couple of weeks ago and**John (Dravo) Dravnieks was
there. Dravo supported HLASM for many years out of the Per
On 9/06/2021 11:36 am, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 10:02:01 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
...
Is 2009 good enough for you?: https://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ftp/demo/?C=M;O=D
Perfect. I have to say, that's a superbly documented piece of code.
Did you see a User
On 9/06/2021 3:10 am, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 22:16:54 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
Is FLOWASM open source or do you have a mates shared version?
Is 2009 good enough for you?: https://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ftp/demo/?C=M;O=D
Perfect. I have to say, that's a sup
On 8/06/2021 3:43 pm, Rob Scott wrote:
(a) imposes a severe restriction on the long-lines facility by requiring that
column 72 be blank. The programmer could accommodate that by coding such as
0C' ', but that's worse than old-fashioned continuation.
I re-read the commentary in the exit this m
On 8/06/2021 9:05 am, Clark Morris wrote:
What I object to is LE obscuring the original abend code with an abend
code that doesn't have a 1 to 1 relation to the original abend. A
U4xxx-S0C7 message would be adequate.
LE condition handling is to number 1 reason why assembler programmres
hate L
On 5/06/2021 1:06 am, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 13:21:06 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
You can do this but you're going to have to jump through some hoops.
First you need to upload the repo from a zip file or whatever. Then you
will have to tag all the files ISO8859-1 usin
We’re going to start using FLOWASM with Metal/C for inline assembly. It’s a
PITA to code continuation characters when using __asm() blocks.
> On 4 Jun 2021, at 11:46 pm, Rob Scott wrote:
>
>
>>
>>> Similar question. Is it transparent, perhaps triggering FTP from a HLASM
>>> exit?
>
> FLO
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You can do this but you're going to have to jump through some hoops.
First you need to upload the repo from a zip file or
On 4/06/2021 10:54 pm, Rob Scott wrote:
Has anyone tried Slick + git + NFS + FLOWASM?
Almost.
"SlickEdit (using FTP as transport) + zFS + git on z/OS + FLOWASM"
Some teams use Git and/or ssh/sftp for transport. SlickEdit has a great
FTP client which supports both the MVS and z/OS file syste
. You can then have a nice GUI with
wiki pages and branch history graphs just like GitHub or Bitbucket.
On 4/06/2021 11:32 am, David Crayford wrote:
You can do this but you're going to have to jump through some hoops.
First you need to upload the repo from a zip file or whatever. Then
FYI, we recently worked with SlickEdit to implement FLOWASM support for
HLASM and it works very well. We also wrote some tooling to kick of
builds over ssh from the SE GUI.
There is very little chance of ISPF every supporting custom language
syntax highlighting so if you desire colors and use
You can do this but you're going to have to jump through some hoops.
First you need to upload the repo from a zip file or whatever. Then you
will have to tag all the files ISO8859-1 using the "chtag -R -tc
ISO8859-1 ." command and hope there are no binary files.
Then you need to convert the re
On 31/05/2021 9:02 pm, Linda Chui wrote:
On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 07:17:29 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
On 30/04/2021 4:30 am, Charles Mills wrote:
Hmmm. I shared David's impression but http://publibfp.dhe.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/i1357010.pdf
lists LE as a "Target System Mandatory O
zlsof
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.2.0?topic=scd-zlsof-displays-information-about-open-files-sockets-pipes
> On 20 May 2021, at 6:37 pm, Joe Owens wrote:
>
> Is it possible to determine, without trying to unmount a file, which
> processes are using resources below that point in the hier
On 19/05/2021 3:46 pm, Andrew Rowley wrote:
On 19/05/2021 12:27 pm, David Crayford wrote:
Then why not write your product in C++? It would be a lot easier to
process SMF records using structs then having to write get methods in
Java. Contrary to what some people believe C++ is a very modern
On 19/05/2021 8:14 am, Andrew Rowley wrote:
That's unfortunate. It's the same where I work. We run a enterprise
class z15 and the zIIP normalized times in the SMF30s match GCP
times. What you really want is an image where you can compare code
running on a zIIP to a sub-capacity GCP
as that's
On 18/05/2021 6:35 pm, Andrew Rowley wrote:
On 18/05/2021 5:21 pm, David Crayford wrote:
Do they have a zIIP on the RDP system?
Yes, although the regular CPs are the same speed. Having the zIIP
means I can get figures for zIIP, CP and zIIP on CP.
That's unfortunate. It's the sa
Sorry about the typos. OpenJDK Flight Record was GA from Java 9 onwards.
So fingers crossed we will see that when the Java 11 is finally
available on z/OS.
On 18/05/2021 5:12 pm, David Crayford wrote:
Unfortunately, othing has changed :( z/OS only partially supports the
JVMTI implementation
On 18/05/2021 1:52 am, Kirk Wolf wrote:
- good low-overhead (sampling) profiling tools for the z/OS JVM don't
exist (maybe this has changed?). IMO this was a huge barrier for
Java on z/OS.
Unfortunately, othing has changed :( z/OS only partially supports the
JVMTI implementation. Hopefull
On 18/05/2021 1:32 pm, Andrew Rowley wrote:
On 16/05/2021 12:59 pm, David Crayford wrote:
And there is a good chance that you could introduce unacceptable
software charges. I've worked on performance reporting tools for over
two decades and in my experience customers measure everythin
On 18/05/2021 2:05 am, Kirk Wolf wrote:
Sorry, I meant to add that agree with David. If you have big Java
apps that use significant CPU, you really need to run them on zIIP or
the costs will be intolerable.
In the particular case of the large Australian customer, I wonder why
they didn't se
On 17/05/2021 11:43 am, Timothy Sipples wrote:
This message is because you're not running in a servlet container. If
you download Apache Tomcat and drop the war into the WebApps directory
it will work.
Better still, download Jetty. You will have to use version 9.4 as new
versions require versions
On 16/05/2021 9:31 am, Andrew Rowley wrote:
On 15/05/2021 3:33 pm, David Crayford wrote:
Java is not viable on z/OS without zIIP engines.
I don't believe that is true. zIIP engines give you 3 things:
Answered below.
1) Savings in software cost.
Imperative. One of our custome
On 15/05/2021 1:45 pm, David Crayford wrote:
On 14/05/2021 11:58 pm, Lionel B. Dyck wrote:
INFO:oejw.StandardDescriptorProcessor:main: NO JSP Support for /, did
not find org.eclipse.jetty.jsp.JettyJspServlet
This message is because you're not running in a servlet container. If
you dow
On 14/05/2021 11:58 pm, Lionel B. Dyck wrote:
INFO:oejw.StandardDescriptorProcessor:main: NO JSP Support for /, did
not find org.eclipse.jetty.jsp.JettyJspServlet
This message is because you're not running in a servlet container. If
you download Apache Tomcat and drop the war into the WebApps
On 15/05/2021 1:03 am, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
It takes z/OSMF about an hour to fully initialize on my ZD&T … same behavior
(lots of SIOs and CPU) IBM says its fixing this but its been quite a while. Its
Java related.
And how much does ZD&T cost? We had customer complain that our Apache
Tomc
This is usually due to Websphere scanning the dropins folder for
updates. z/OS doesn't have edge triggered kernel hooks like inotify on
Linux so has to use brute force. It's not just I/O it consumes a lot of CPU.
You can disable it in server.xml
locationMonitoringEnabled="false" updateTrigger
Works for me. You shouldn't need to download libraries as it's packaged
into a fat Jar.
On 14/05/2021 9:57 pm, Lionel B. Dyck wrote:
Has anyone any experience in getting GitBucket to run on z/OS USS?
I've downloaded the war file and it will start but then couldn't find:
[main] WARN
Bruce,
Your environment is not dissimilar to our setup at Rocket. We create a
read only file system for ported tools which is shared across LPARs and
Sysplexes. We don't update ported tools that frequently but when we do
there is
the usual backout plan you would expect from a mainframe shop. W
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On 7/05/2021 6:51 pm, Lionel B. Dyck wrote:
That was my question and I was hoping for a broader audience than just the
Rocket forums.
I understand but IMO th
#linuxone - Discussion on Linux on Z
#zos-beginners - z/OS discussion
#zosmf-adoption - z/OSMF discussion
On 8/05/2021 5:11 am, David Crayford wrote:
This Slack workspace is not just for Zowe there are many different
channels. They are a lot of young guys learning the ropes that would
benefit
chives/CA4HYKG4D> -
Discussion on Linux on Z
#zos-beginners
<https://openmainframeproject.slack.com/archives/CGREF2HJR> - z/OS
discussion
#zosmf-adoption
<https://openmainframeproject.slack.com/archives/CGLJM7W4W> - z/OSMF
discussion
On 8/05/2021 4:55 am, David Crayford wrote:
FYI,
FYI, there's a Slack room dedicated to the Open Mainframe Project which
covers topics such as Zowe and the new generation of tooling such as the
VS Plugins for COBOL, PL/I and HLASM. It's quite busy and while it is
mainly used by millennial's
there are a few faces from IBMMAIN participating. Eve
On 8/05/2021 3:15 am, Tony Harminc wrote:
We've tried to encourage our young guys to
join this forum and participate in questions about ported tools and
Zowe. Unfortunately they become frustrated with the topic drift and
nostalgia threads and unsubscribe.
Maybe as your young guys mature they wil
forum.
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On 6/05/2021 9:17 pm
On 7/05/2021 9:17 am, Andrew Rowley wrote:
On 7/05/2021 10:55 am, David Crayford wrote:
I would argue that it is the wrong forum. Rocket z/OS Ported Tools
come with two types of support. Free with forum support and paid
where you open a Ticket in SalesForce and are guaranteed service levels
On 6/05/2021 9:17 pm, Lionel B. Dyck wrote:
This isn't the wrong forum - I'm seeking advice from the mainframe community
and there may be some who aren't using the rocket forums :)
I would argue that it is the wrong forum. Rocket z/OS Ported Tools come
with two types of support. Free with for
Rocket Terminal Emulator Web runs in a browser and is a really good 3270
emulator. You can run it on a server for the masses or on your laptop as
it's a Node.js application. Rocket have a new development team
supporting RTEW who are soliciting feature requests so feedback is
welcome. As a web b
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You're posting in the wrong forum again Lionel ;)
We use Conda internally at Rocket, however, the z team install all the
ported tools into a read only file system which is shared between
LPARs/Sysplexes. Your sysprogs can use Conda to create an environment to
download the tools
and then move t
I would use a configuration file. Copy
/usr/lpp/cbclib/xlclang/etc/xlclang.cfg into one of your directories and
either set the XL_CONFIG environment variable or include it with the -F
compiler option. Add your data set to the syslib_x concatenation.
VIEW /RZ204Y/usr/lpp/cbclib/xlclang/e
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On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 18:27:06 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
On 6/04/2021 9:53 pm, Charles Mills wrote:
You don't use templates
I certainly do use templates. Not sure how you get
getpwent requires SAF access or super user.
> On 28 Apr 2021, at 9:24 pm, Itschak Mugzach
> <0305158ad67d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> getpwent But what about ?
>
> בתאריך יום ד׳, 28 באפר׳ 2021 ב-16:22 מאת Paul Gilmartin <
> 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>:
>
Compared to IBMs new doc site Adobe is a work of art!
> On 15 Apr 2021, at 10:57 am, kekronbekron
> <02dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>> Adobe is phenomenally bloated for just reading PDFs.
>>
>> "just"? Does it do nothing else?
>
>
> Sorry, I could have phras
> On 13 Apr 2021, at 5:09 am, zMan wrote:
>
>
>>
>> We want nice things too!
>
> And also Java, apparently.
Haha, that’s very droll :)
>
>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 7:37 AM David Crayford wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/04/2021 3:18 am, Phil Sm
On 11/04/2021 3:18 am, Phil Smith III wrote:
Allan Staller wrote:
I don't follow JAVA closely enough to wonder about what happened to
JAVA9/JAVA10 on z/OS.
Java 9 and Java 10 were short-lived and are unsupported everywhere, so don't
worry about them. For that matter, 12 through 15 are ba
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Does anybody have idea when we can expect Java 11 to be GA on z/OS. IBM
have made a statement of direction and I heard from IBMers from Hursley
that it was supposed to GA in 2020.
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On 6/04/2021 1:23 am, Charles Mills wrote:
But IMHO none easy to learn or use.
I am generally not a fan of meta languages at all. I think writing programs is
hard enough, without having to write two effective programs: one that runs at
compile time and one that runs at run time.
In my C++, wh
On 9/03/2021 6:45 am, Andrew Rowley wrote:
On 9/03/2021 12:42 am, Lionel B Dyck wrote:
It appears that on one of my z/OS 2.4 systems I don't have this ssh
issue but on another I do. The difference is that one has a
/etc/ssh/zos_ssh_config file and the one that fails does not.
Updating the /e
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hout a bit it self-training.
On 2/27/2021 11:45 PM, David Crayford wrote:
On 27/02/2021 8:22 am, Tom Brennan wrote:
You take that back!! :)
Sorry... I just used vi a minute ago and although I finally
remembered shift-g to move to the bottom, I had to goggle how to
move back to the top. gg
Make sure you also have the following set:
export _TAG_REDIR_ERR=txt
export _TAG_REDIR_IN=txt
export _TAG_REDIR_OUT=txt
On 28/02/2021 10:45 pm, Lionel B Dyck wrote:
I have in the environment on this system and on the working systems.
_BPXK_AUTOCVT=ON
_CEE_RUNOPTS=FILETAG(AUTOCVT,AUTOTAG) POSI
On 27/02/2021 8:22 am, Tom Brennan wrote:
You take that back!! :)
Sorry... I just used vi a minute ago and although I finally remembered
shift-g to move to the bottom, I had to goggle how to move back to the
top. gg Of course! It's so obvious.
:1 will also jump to the top. 'g' isn't a co
Is your profile on that LPAR setup correctly to handle enhanced ASCII?
On 28/02/2021 4:23 am, Lionel B Dyck wrote:
I’m having an issue on a test lpar with git for z/OS – both version 2.14 and
the latest 2.26 ports.
I’ve looked at this as have several others without success.
When I at
On 5/02/2021 1:32 am, Charles Mills wrote:
TCP/IP certainly makes use of lots of UNIX services.
Yes, and it goes both ways. I'm working a project right now with one of
the original IBM OMVS developers and he told me that the BPX callable
services wrap Comms Server APIs and then the LE C/C++ r
their SEO. Google "3270
emulator for Mac" and they don't rank on the first page.
René Jansen
On 2 Feb 2021, at 11:51, David Crayford wrote:
One of the reasons I chose a PC instead of a Mac when I had the choice for a
new work machine was the lack of a decent 3270 emulat
One of the reasons I chose a PC instead of a Mac when I had the choice
for a new work machine was the lack of a decent 3270 emulator. By decent
I mean something that supports a custom 160*60 screen size.
This is not a shameless plug for one of our products but if I were a Mac
user I would chec
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On 31/01/2021 10:49 am, Seymour J Metz wrote:
Did it ever occur to you that when you write things that people know to be
false, they
On 31/01/2021 10:49 am, Seymour J Metz wrote:
Did it ever occur to you that when you write things that people know to be
false, they're less likely to believe what you write about other matters?
Shrug! I could care less what you think. You're understanding of
mainframe technology seems to be
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On Fri, 29 Jan 2021, at 03:27, David Crayford wrote:
No offense taken. You may find it far fetched but it's true. I'm
cognizant to th
On 30/01/2021 6:42 am, Wayne Bickerdike wrote:
Necessity is the mother of invention. Glad someone invented ISPF edit
macros. Others have a different vi(ew!)
It's going to take a lot more than a few ISPF edit macros to implement
what's available in the new generation of mainframe IDEs Wayne! A
On 29/01/2021 6:12 pm, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 06:12:21 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
If you could get IBM to port OOREXX to TSO ...
Why suggest a TSO dependency, rather than "... get IBM to port OOREXX to z/OS
..."
Think of IRXJCL and OMVS.
OOREXX is never going to happen
On 29/01/2021 2:21 am, Lionel Dyck wrote:
Good point that I missed in the doc - catch 22 isn't it. Too bad IBM doesn't
include the REXX compiler (and TSO Pipes) with z/OS by default 😊
I found a problem with the compiled REXX runtime memory allocation. It
uses GETMAIN and not cell pools and i
On 29/01/2021 4:40 am, Bob Bridges wrote:
I didn't bother to reply to Mr Crayford's post; he seems to be saying that
he encounters no editing task nowadays that he can't do just as well
manually as if he wrote an editing program. I can't take that seriously.
(No offense intended; I may have misu
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> I think your the one missing the point. I can't remember the last ti
ctance to invest time to learn new things"; it
doesn't. Maybe they know something you don't know.
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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David C
then do
'DELETE' NEW
'CURSOR =' OLD
"(NEW) = LINENUM .ZCSR"
end
"(LAST) = LINENUM .ZLAST"
end
In Vim I can record macros.
In ISPF I don't need them.
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
On 28/01/2021 8:25 am, Seymour J Metz wrote:
Yes, and you can write macros for it. Still, when you have ISPF available
there's little call to use TSO EDIT.
Isn't writing code macros a bit dated? In Vim I can record macros.
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
On 28/01/2021 12:20 am, Tom Brennan wrote:
The last time I had any major Linux editing to do (writing a
relatively large system in C, multiple modules, etc.) I used the
editor that comes with Microsoft Visual Studio on Win 10, with Samba
setup to automatically save the files from Windows over t
On 28/01/2021 12:19 am, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
Doesn't everybody know that 'G' takes you to the bottom of the file and
'gg' to the top;)
I didn't. I had been using '1G' for decades since I learned it.
Thanks for the hint.
Has Rocket ported Vim to z/OS?
Yes, and emacs. The terminfo database
On 27/01/2021 10:43 pm, Steve Thompson wrote:
Then why do so many people complain about vi outside of mainframers?
Why are there other editors and even mods for vi if it is so wonderful?
Why does a modern GUI editor have key bindings for Vim?
https://github.com/VSCodeVim/Vim?
Because using
On 27/01/2021 2:05 pm, Seymour J Metz wrote:
I bit the bullet and finally learned Vim
Why not emacs?
1. Vim is the default editor on Linux systems so I would have to install
emacs. It's also the default editor for tools like Git.
2. I prefer Vim!
---
neovim/neovim
On 27/01/2021 1:57 pm, Tom Brennan wrote:
On 1/26/2021 7:42 PM, David Crayford wrote:
I know the old adage that old dogs can't learn new tricks but why not
just learn native Linux tools?
Because somebody decided that "end save" would be ":wq" which of
co
There's an open source ncurses Linux ISPF clone which was ok when I
looked at it https://github.com/daniel64/lspf.
I know the old adage that old dogs can't learn new tricks but why not
just learn native Linux tools? I bit the bullet and finally learned Vim
a few years ago and now that I've mas
A and prefix.RW.LIBTOOLS.A for the rogue wave libs...
look at page 58/61
Joe
On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 4:04 AM David Crayford wrote:
I'm working on a project that uses SAS/C++ and I'm having problems
getting the sasCC370 compiler in z/OS UNIX configured to include the
Rogue Wave STL library. In the
There are SAS/C devs on this mailing list so I may get lucky!
On 21/01/2021 6:07 pm, Gadi Ben-Avi wrote:
How about asking SAS.
Start at support.sas.com or send a message to supp...@sas.com
Gadi
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STL
I'm working on a project that uses SAS/C++ and I'm having problems
getting the sasCC370 compiler in z/OS UNIX configured to include the
Rogue Wave STL library. In the sascc.cfg file I specified
CXXLIBPREFIX=VENDOR.C750.RW
but then it failed because the LIBCXX data set was not found. I tried to
ge to say exactly what its problem was (its
problem that caused it to abandon CEEDUMP).
Charles
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