Re: LPR Assistance Please

2007-07-11 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
On 10 Jul 2007 at 15:30, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: I don't have SMTP configured on z/VM so this is easier (if it would work). I recently set up SMTP (finally!) and found it quite simple and fast to do. I used a very vanilla SMTP CONFIG with nothing in it but SMSGAUTHLIST - ENDSMSGAUTHLIST and

Re: LPR Assistance Please

2007-07-11 Thread David Boyes
} I am trying to send a text file containing smtp headers and text from z/VM } to my z/OS system so that my z/OS SMTP server will pick up the file and } deliver it as e-mail. I think you're trying to teach the pig to sing here - LPR isn't intended to be a RJE utility. The right way to do

Re: SHOW still available ?

2007-07-11 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 7/9/07, Kris Buelens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RDR-queue, PEEK, and TRANSFER back. Drawback: this TRANSFER process will change the spool file number (and if you'd LOGOFF before we can transfer back, the file remains in your reader). In addition to change of the spool file number, the

PIPEDDR

2007-07-11 Thread Huegel, Thomas
On the VM download page there is a tool 'PIPEDDR'. In the description of this tool it mentions that it can use a 'TERSE' pipestage, then goes on to mention that this is only available on internal IBM systems .. duh !! Anyone know how one could get a hold of such an internal pipestage? _

Re: LPR Assistance Please

2007-07-11 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
Alan - thank you - that resolved my challenge. If I had RSCS this would not have been an issue and setting up SMTP would have required more 'paperwork' to register a new SMTP sender in the network. This now works for the limited use that I plan to use it for. Thanks to everyone who responded.

Re: PIPEDDR

2007-07-11 Thread Thomas Kern
The best way to get the TERSE stage is to become an IBMer. It is one of the internal only stages that never make it to the customers. /Tom Kern /301-903-2211 --- Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the VM download page there is a tool 'PIPEDDR'. In the description of this tool it

Re: PIPEDDR

2007-07-11 Thread Huegel, Thomas
The download page is a gold mine of unreleased/unsupported tools that just simply make life easier. I have a lot of stuff from there, and often modify it for my specific use. Understanding completly that there is no gaurentee and everything is 'use at your own risk' I have no qualms about 'giving

Re: PIPEDDR

2007-07-11 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 7/11/07, Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The point is, if it is good enough for IBM isn't it good enough for thier customers? I'm pretty sure you don't want to have even a fraction of what IBM thinks is good for their own employees :-) Now we(I) need to convince them to put TERSE

Performance Toolkit: DCSS size too small

2007-07-11 Thread RPN01
We¹ve been running PerfKit for quite some time, and the 191 disk got too small for the trend data. I brought down both PERFSVM virtual machines (we run two CECs and CSE), created new, larger disks, and set up the PERFSVM¹s to use them, and then xautolog¹ed both PERFSVMs. Now, both are getting the

Re: PIPEDDR

2007-07-11 Thread Sebastian Welton
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 08:44:56 -0500, Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wr ote: On the VM download page there is a tool 'PIPEDDR'. In the description of this tool it mentions that it can use a 'TERSE' pipestage, then goes on to mention that this is only available on internal IBM systems .. duh !!

Re: PIPEDDR

2007-07-11 Thread Thomas Kern
I have never been adverse to trying 'unsupported' code. I have even convinced some management to allow 'unsupported' code for our use and for some of our better customers. If you prowl through the downloads page long enough, you will find severa l items that sound usefull but on deeper

Re: PIPEDDR

2007-07-11 Thread Thomas Kern
Yes, that is the stuff. IBM sends us TERSEd files and we have to DETERSE them. On that better system that has to send more dumps to IBM there is t he TRSMAIN program to help reduce the bandwidth for dump transfer. But I thi nk it would violate multiple IBM legalese documents for us to reverse

Re: PIPEDDR

2007-07-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 07/11/2007 at 12:08 EDT, Thomas Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, that is the stuff. IBM sends us TERSEd files and we have to DETERSE them. On that better system that has to send more dumps to IBM there is the TRSMAIN program to help reduce the bandwidth for dump transfer. But

Re: PIPEDDR

2007-07-11 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jul 11, 2007, at 11:37 AM, Alan Altmark wrote: We are investigating the issues surrounding dump compression and encryption for the VM environment. It is my hope, though, that the solution to these problems will be more generally useful. Hunh. A transparent passthrough

Re: PIPEDDR

2007-07-11 Thread Schuh, Richard
Complaining to the Support Center is sometimes very effective. I complained a couple of years ago about the requirement that dumps be sent in COPYFILE packed format. After I gave them the numbers for one of our dumps packed by COPYFILE vs. VMARC, and indicated that our development network

Re: PIPEDDR

2007-07-11 Thread Thomas Kern
If you are restricting your solution to only dump transfer to the Support Center then I am not interested. I have bigger problems protecting my customer's data and getting it available at a Disaster Recovery site. If you are looking to add compression and encryption to the basic VM toolkit,

Re: PIPEDDR

2007-07-11 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jul 11, 2007, at 11:58 AM, Alan Altmark wrote: Down, boy! Down! [I brandish a rolled-up newspaper in your general direction] :-) There are issues surrounding compression and encryption that have nothing to do with secure network transmission provided by the SSL server. What to do if

Re: PIPEDDR

2007-07-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 07/11/2007 at 12:43 EDT, Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hunh. A transparent passthrough compression/encryption facility. Gee, that sounds like a good idea. It also sounds *suspiciously similar* to an extant IBM z/VM component. Admittedly, one that I think should

Re: Performance Toolkit: DCSS size too small

2007-07-11 Thread Kris Buelens
This is not related the size of a minidisk, but the size of a DisContiguous Saved Segment, a piece of virtual storage, in this case shared between CP (that stores the performance data in it ) and PERFSVM that retrieves them out of it. It is created by issuing DEFSEG MONDCSS sss-eee SC (I'm a

Re: PIPEDDR

2007-07-11 Thread Hooker, Don - OIT
Tom, VSE *does* have a TERSE utility (at least since z/VSE 3.1). It can be used on library members that are not type DUMP or PHASE. See the z/VSE 3.1 System Utility Guide.

Re: PIPEDDR

2007-07-11 Thread Thomas Kern
And I would suspect that TPF also has a TERSE program. I would not be surprised if somewhere in IBM/Linux there is a TERSE executable. /Tom Kern /301-903-2211 On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:29:56 -0400, Hooker, Don - OIT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, VSE *does* have a TERSE utility (at least since z/VSE

Re: PIPEDDR

2007-07-11 Thread Huegel, Thomas
Right, they have it all over the place, but are keeping the pipe stage for themselves. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Thomas Kern Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 1:40 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: PIPEDDR And I

Re: Performance Toolkit: DCSS size too small

2007-07-11 Thread RPN01
I agree in theory, but a) PERFSVM was running just before I increased the size of the minidisks, and gets the DCSS size too small message after increasing the size of the minidisk. And b) increasing the size of the DCSS hasn¹t won me any points with PERFSVM or *MONITOR either. What I¹m seeing now

Trouble with COPYFILE to shorten Record

2007-07-11 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
I am trying to copy a file with the LRECL option to shorten it. e.g. Filename Filetype Fm Format LreclRecords TXJIMFILELIST A0 V169 4920 COPYFILE TXJIM FILELIST A SORTER FILELIST A (LRECL 13 I expected the result to be a file with LRECL 13 but it is: Filename Filetype Fm

Re: Trouble with COPYFILE to shorten Record

2007-07-11 Thread Schuh, Richard
Add the TRUNC option; NOTRUNC is the default. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stracka, James (GTI) Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 12:08 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Trouble with

Re: Performance Toolkit: DCSS size too small

2007-07-11 Thread Kris Buelens
So, open a problem with the IBM support center. Kris 2007/7/11, RPN01 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Update: Increasing the virtual memory size of the PERFSVM userid solved the problem. I wish PerfKit gave more useful messages I've been chasing the wrong problem all day. -- .~.Robert P. Nix

3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA

2007-07-11 Thread Sergio Lima
Hi list, We have a problem here, may be why we don't know very well the 3174 machine. We are running TCP/IP under VM/ESA, but the 3174 machine don't want work. Unfortunatelly We don't have here in our hands, the TCPMAINT Log, but tomorrow, may be. For now, We have our IOCP

Re: Trouble with COPYFILE to shorten Record

2007-07-11 Thread Mike Walter
If you are just trying to view it and it won't fit in XEDIT try one or more of: - BROWSE fn ft fm - BROWSE has HEX ON|OFF|CHAR - SHOW fn ft fm - SHOW has HEXMODE and HEXTYPE commands, and I can offer a HEXVIEW XEDIT file (based on Will Roden's work) will

Re: Trouble with COPYFILE to shorten Record

2007-07-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Since you only seem to be interested in the first 13 bytes of each record , you could also try using the XEDIT Width option, i.e. XEDIT TXJIM FILELIS T A (W 13 This will Xedit only the first 13 bytes of each record and will require a lot less virtual storage. By default, Xedit trys to

Re: vswitch problem

2007-07-11 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
You need to provide output from QUERY VSWITCH and QUERY NIC DETAILS while the VM stack is up. Did the output I provided give you (or anyone else) any ideas on this? My vswitch is now frozen, waiting for advice... Thanks, Shimon

RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA

2007-07-11 Thread Carlos Bodra
Alan, 3174 can participate in a TCP/IP network if has Ethernet adapter or into a Token Ring if configured with TKR adapter. There are some specific configuration questions to make this possible. Carlos -Mensagem original- De: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em

Re: PIPEDDR

2007-07-11 Thread Glenn Knickerbocker
Rob van der Heij wrote: The Piper normally has a good reason not to put something in the runtime library, but I don't know the motivation in this particular case. You could ask on CMSPIP-L if you have strong desires. Might just be that he hasn't felt the urge to wrangle with IBM Legal since

Re: PIPEDDR

2007-07-11 Thread Schuh, Richard
Since the Support Center now accepts VMARC packed files, is there really any reason to demand TERSE? Will TERSE results be smaller? I doubt it. The reason for my doubt is that I have VMARC packed a large (1.5G) TPF dump and found that it was exactly the same size as it was when processed by a

PIPEDDR TERSE and other stuff

2007-07-11 Thread Graeme Moss
Greetings Listers, PIPEDDR can use TERSE or PACK stages for compression or use no compression.. It only fails if TERSE option is specified and the stage is not available. It is written so it does not rely on TERSE I have used PIPEDDR with PACK option to transfer complete 3390s from one data

Re: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA

2007-07-11 Thread David Boyes
That 3174 IP gateway feature only operates when the 3174 is a) running SNA microcode and is b) attached to VTAM. It is not supported for use with the VM TCP stack.and does not work. It's nie to know that you have the other one of those beasts. I thought I had the only one left in the world...

Re: PIPEDDR TERSE and other stuff

2007-07-11 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 7/11/07, Graeme Moss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just an aside, I thought I would update the code so it used standard PIPES but when I did that TCPIP packets were lost. Maybe TCPCLIENT and TCPLISTEN have different code or maybe I screwed it up or maybe it was timing. If you mean using the

RES: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA

2007-07-11 Thread Carlos Bodra
So David, there are 4 of them in world. I have 3 of them here, one gateway and 2 DSPU units. -Mensagem original- De: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de David Boyes Enviada em: quarta-feira, 11 de julho de 2007 19:16 Para: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Assunto:

Re: Trouble with COPYFILE to shorten Record

2007-07-11 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 7/11/07, Mike Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - PIPE fn ft fm | BROWSE- but no hex viewing unless you add stage(s) for that The 'browse' stage does keep the viewed portion of the data in memory to allow you to page back again. Not really a concern with 5000 records of 13 bytes

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Re: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA

2007-07-11 Thread Ron Schmiedge
5 of them. I have a 3174 with a T/R adapter. Runs 3 SNA printers. Talks SNA to an OSA-E card (for about a month now). Has been running for a lng time (I have a 6th, a spare sitting in the corner) On 7/11/07, Carlos Bodra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So David, there are 4 of them in world.

Re: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA

2007-07-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 07/11/2007 at 05:36 EDT, Carlos Bodra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3174 can participate in a TCP/IP network if has Ethernet adapter or into a Token Ring if configured with TKR adapter. There are some specific configuration questions to make this possible. As an SNA PU, yes. As a

Re: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA

2007-07-11 Thread David Boyes
5 of them. I have a 3174 with a T/R adapter. Runs 3 SNA printers. Talks SNA to an OSA-E card (for about a month now). Has been running for a lng time (I have a 6th, a spare sitting in the corner) Lots of people had Ethernet and T/R adapters in 3174s for SNA traffic, but don't confuse