On Friday, 11/09/2007 at 04:42 EST, Steve Marak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I have one of those (somewhere), and even more coincidentally, was
> thinking of it for reasons entirely unrelated to this thread just
> yesterday. How I came to have it is more ironic than coincidental, given
> how litt
On Friday, 11/09/2007 at 03:50 EST, Jim Bohnsack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I would like to be able to switch to the z/VM 5.3 level of DIRMAINT
> without having to try to explain to the userid admin people that before
> that can do something to the directory, they have to issue the DIRM
> NEEDPA
Ron--I'd be happy to do that if it worked. I tried, however, from my id
that DIRMAINT accepted, and issued the command DIRM FOR MAINT NEEDPASS
NO and nothing happened. I would think that it should work, but that
does not do the job.
Jim
Ron Schmiedge wrote:
Jim,
Couldn't you use the "big h
On Nov 9, 2007 9:34 PM, Roger Lunsford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The PERFKIT can create HISTORY DATA files, which can be looked at
> as "condensed monitor data" files. The PERFKIT can also process these
That's not really the same. Those are just a small set of (system
wide) metrics that are k
The PERFKIT can create HISTORY DATA files, which can be looked at
as "condensed monitor data" files. The PERFKIT can also process these
data files via the PERFKIT MENU OPTION 32 HISTORY DATA FILES. Within the
ACUM HISTSUM and the MMDD HISTLOG I can see the CPU Utilization on
each monitor
Wow, I've learned something about Windows on the VM discussion list.
Thanks Rich and Brian.
/Fran Hensler at Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania USA for 44 years
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On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 15:49:20 -
Jim,
Couldn't you use the "big hammer" approach and update the needpass
value for all your user admin people from someone who can, like MAINT?
A list of the users combined with enough EXEC DIRMAINT commands in one
exec, run it and go on to something else?
I recall having to do that for a differen
On: Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 01:17:23PM -0800,Raymond Noal Wrote:
} Rich,
}
} I have a virtual machine for a z/OS system and I defined 3 virtual IPs in the
directory for this virtual machine.
}
} Q CPUS
} 00: CPU 00 ID FF01AC8E20948000 (BASE) CP CPUAFF ON
} 00: CPU 01 ID FF01AC8E20948000 ST
Mark,
I have one of those (somewhere), and even more coincidentally, was
thinking of it for reasons entirely unrelated to this thread just
yesterday. How I came to have it is more ironic than coincidental, given
how little I know - or ever knew - about CICS.
I've never seen another, although t
It's NPW0 after issuing DIRM NEEDPASS NO. With the previous level of
DIRMAINT that I used (at least previous for me--probably came with
z/VM4.3 or 4.4) users in the AUTHFOR list didn't have to do that. I
vaguely recall, however that when we put in 4.3, having some kind of
authorization proble
>>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2007 at 4:05 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rich
Smrcina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Q V CPUS
Ah. I had tried q v cpu, but not plural. Seems a little inconsistent.
q v nic
q v ctc
q v osa
Ah well. Thanks. (BTW, q v all works too, but I was trying to avoid looking
t
Rich,
I have a virtual machine for a z/OS system and I defined 3 virtual IPs in the
directory for this virtual machine.
Q CPUS
00: CPU 00 ID FF01AC8E20948000 (BASE) CP CPUAFF ON
00: CPU 01 ID FF01AC8E20948000 STOPPED CP CPUAFF ON
00: CPU 02 ID FF01AC8E20948000 STOPPED CP CPUAFF ON
On: Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 01:59:40PM -0700,Mark Post Wrote:
} I've got a couple of z/VM 5.1 guests, and they both have privilege classes B
and G. I would like to be able to query how many virtual processors CP has
defined for me at any given point in time. (No real reason, I'm just trying to
l
And "IND USER userid" can be done from a different user that has class E
privileges.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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On: Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 03:50:43PM -0500,Jim Bohnsack Wrote:
} I'm still having problems with NEEDPASS. I have every id that acts as
} an admin to the directory or as a system support person listed as
} authorized for every DIRMAINT command in AUTHFOR CONTROL. I don't see
} Kris's connection
IND USER should tell you.
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Would "Q VIRTUAL CPUS" be what you're looking for?
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Q V CPUS
Mark Post wrote:
I've got a couple of z/VM 5.1 guests, and they both have privilege classes B
and G. I would like to be able to query how many virtual processors CP has
defined for me at any given point in time. (No real reason, I'm just trying to
learn new stuff, and the topic has
I've got a couple of z/VM 5.1 guests, and they both have privilege classes B
and G. I would like to be able to query how many virtual processors CP has
defined for me at any given point in time. (No real reason, I'm just trying to
learn new stuff, and the topic has come up on the Linux-390 mai
Alain,
I think the only way you could do this from z/VM (the mainframe) is if
the "LUN DASD" was configured as FBA devices ... if it's native Linux, I
think the only way it can be accessed on the mainframe is by dedicating
it to a z/Linux system.
JR (Steven) Imler
CA
Senior Software Engineer
Tel:
I'm still having problems with NEEDPASS. I have every id that acts as
an admin to the directory or as a system support person listed as
authorized for every DIRMAINT command in AUTHFOR CONTROL. I don't see
Kris's connection in his posting re: the 1x0CMDS file. The
authorization level require
On: Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 01:24:14PM -0500,Fran Hensler Wrote:
} I too do much of my VSE work in CMS and KEDIT. There's no
} need to dwell on the wonders of XEDIT but there is not much
} said about KEDIT. I'm using 1.5 which has been around since
} Windows 95 and I've never found a bug. All of
I forgot to add this to my previous reply -
The Q DASD DETAILS command only works for real devices, not mini disks.
HITACHI
DATA SYSTEMS
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Senior Technical Engineer
Office: (408) 970 - 7978
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PR
Alain,
Mini disks are defined in your IOCDS/IODF as though they were real DASD
devices. Mini disks will appear as 3390's to your operating system running in a
virtual machine. Of course, their size/capacity will be that of the mini disk
definition.
If by LUN DASD you are referring to iSCSI dev
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:24:14 EST, Fran Hensler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>KEXX is great too. The only thing lacking is PIPES.
Yeah, I miss pipes there, but I still love it.
>Are you aware of the LaunchKE user contribution for KEDIT?
>This is from the readme.txt:
>
>LaunchKE is a simple ye
Hi all,
We have a new requirement where we would like to be able to backup/restor
e
LUN DASD from open for a test. OPEN is an other world for me. So I would
like to know how I should code LUN DASD (METALUN ?) into IOCP and how a
MDISK would look like too. A copy/paste would be great.
And what q d
Tom, Ed and Brian -
I too do much of my VSE work in CMS and KEDIT. There's no
need to dwell on the wonders of XEDIT but there is not much
said about KEDIT. I'm using 1.5 which has been around since
Windows 95 and I've never found a bug. All of our power users
have KEDIT installed.
KEXX is g
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 10:15:36 -0600, Thomas Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Is this PSW code (x0FFF) the
>indicator to CP that SHUTDOWN has completed? If it is, how can I nicely
load
>the same indicator when my SVM has completed its shutdown processing?
Sorry, I mis-read your question the fi
A CLASS G linux guest only needs to signal CP that ITS own shutdown
processing has been completed and apparently the x0FFF in the PSW does th
at.
An SVM or Operator or Sysprog that issued the SIGNAL SHUTDOWN command wil
l
get the HCPSIG2113I message when the target SVM has completed its shutdow
n
Logging off seems like a pretty good signal. :-) You can put any CP
command you want in the VMPOFF, so you could use MSG or SMSG to send a
signal back to a shutdown SVM, which could wait until all guests have
reported in before it issues the real CP SHUTDOWN.
Brian Nielsen
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007
Thanks and I'll try to keep in mind that cp has been designed with
punishment algorithm's
On Nov 9, 2007 11:06 AM, Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Friday, 11/09/2007 at 10:35 EST, James M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > A while back I had a problem in which a class g user was inadverte
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 10:43:18 -0600, Ed Zell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>> I still try to keep all of my stuff, for support of my VSE
>> systems, DB2, Linux, under CMS. Perhaps I'm one of the last
>> ones that use CMS.
>
>Tom,
>
> You are not alone my friend. I also keep just about everything
My current linux setup works just fine without adding the VMPOFF=LOGOFF
. If
it is DISCONNECTED when SIGNAL SHUTDOWN arrives, it shuts down, loads tha
t
disable wait PSW and CP logs it off. When I am logged onto it and use the
CLASS G version of SIGNAL SHUTDOWN, linux shuts down, loads the disable
> I still try to keep all of my stuff, for support of my VSE
> systems, DB2, Linux, under CMS. Perhaps I'm one of the last
> ones that use CMS.
Tom,
You are not alone my friend. I also keep just about everything
related to our VSE systems in CMS. We don't use ICCF for
anything but apply
If we didn't have caching controllers and we were still on the 370 I/O
subsystem, would we still be concerned about RPS misses now a days?
I think most disk drives have 512K of cache on them. My understanding is that
you don't read/write directly to the disk anymore, but to the drive cache.
An
Perhaps not, but the people that make the decisions on what to devote resources
to, have "people" to do the grunt work. And, perhaps with the number of
installs the z/VM development group does, it is highly documented all your
"local' modifications.
But in any case, you are running with the
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 10:15:36 -0600, Thomas Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Now I have to clean it up just a bit more. Which brings up the next
tangent
>on this discussion. When I signal a linux SVM to shutdown, CP reports th
at
>the linux SVM has signalled its termination. When I am logged onto
On Friday, 11/09/2007 at 10:35 EST, James M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A while back I had a problem in which a class g user was inadvertently
> given iucv abilities and started cp account recording.
> The directory for that user was corrected removing the IUCV statements.
> I then stopped recordi
A while back I had a problem in which a class g user was inadvertently
given iucv abilities and started cp account recording.
The directory for that user was corrected removing the IUCV statements.
I then stopped recording and purged the records for the userid in
question. End of story...I thought.
According to HELP RECORDING you have to do a COLD restart. Do not hold
my feet to the fire, but FORCE may work.
As part of the z/VM system generation process, your system programmer
may
have indicated which virtual machines would retrieve records of a
designated type. CP recording system services
I do not get any EXT 4000 interrupts for the CSL calls to query the SFS
servers.
I like this work around. Just use SHUTTRAP to enable for SIGNAL SHUTDOWN
and
let WAKEUP and the driving exec handle the rest. Much nicer, cleaner.
Here is what it looks like:
89 *-* 'WAKEUP +5 ( RDR CONS SMS
Marty, It didn't make it into the margins of
"amdahl presents VM/ESA PERFORMANCE WORKSHOP",
copyright 1992, Amdahl Corporation, In its original binder, I might add,
that I have here.
The copy I have at home (everybody keeps a complete set of manuals at both
data centers, no?)
has more notes. I'll
On Nov 9, 2007 3:00 PM, Phil Smith III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Schuh, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Don't forget that Marty's note mentioned the word "miss" in conjunction
> >with "RPS"
>
> Right...so an "RPS miss" is when your rock/paper/scissors doesn't work out
> for you...
We
On Thursday, 11/08/2007 at 10:27 EST, "Huegel, Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Although I do think that sometimes they get a little case of 'If it ain't
> broke, don't fix it' syndrome.
Well...there's a lot to be said for compatibility. Work with *IX apps for a
few releases and see. Or
"Schuh, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Don't forget that Marty's note mentioned the word "miss" in conjunction
>with "RPS"
Right...so an "RPS miss" is when your rock/paper/scissors doesn't work out for
you...
Back on topic, thanks for the reminiscences; I'll pass it along, see if that
ri
On Nov 9, 2007 2:33 PM, Kris Buelens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I added a trace myself and I think I understand: when you have some SFS
> direcory accessed, and something changes in it (a file added/removed a Grant
> affecting you), the SFS server tells you once "something has changed",
> involv
I added a trace myself and I think I understand: when you have some SFS
direcory accessed, and something changes in it (a file added/removed a Grant
affecting you), the SFS server tells you once "something has changed",
involving an EXT4000. The SFS client code will later pool the server to
find o
On Nov 8, 2007 2:40 PM, Mike Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Marty asked: "*RPS miss (show of hands: who remembers what that was?*)"
>
> Not being in the office tomorrow, it's Friday a day early for me. So how
> 'bout:
>
> - *R*ock *P*aper *S*cissors
> - *R*evolutions *P*er *S*econd
> - *R*
Thanks, I will look into it when I get into the office.
I don't think the Hobbit code actually accesses any directories itself
and I have mine installed on a minidisk. But I will have to check it
when Hobbit is installed in an SFS allocation.
/Tom Kern
/301-903-2211
Kris Buelens wrote:
I'd s
I'd say: test it, look at subroutine Extrn_event: and code a SAY when you
get a 4000 interrupt, than you can see how often it happens in your
environment. I know we can live with the number. You don't get an EXT 4000
interrupt for each SFS call, far from that. From what I tested, I see that
one
Well, at least I did not make some silly error.
When you use WAKEUP to trap the EXT interrupts, do you get alot of the
EXT 4000 interrupts queued up when some exec that gets called as a TIMER
event needs to query an SFS server via CSL calls? Hobbit client DISK
function reports on CP allocation
marty zimelis wrote:
Phil,
Unless there was something else out there (a poster or whatever), that
would have been me doing a riff in my VM Performance classes, first for
Amdahl, then for Velocity. Your buddy's time frame is about right (15 years
ago). I was attempting to emphasize the impact
I've been reading and testing:
- I get WAKEUP's RC 6 too, but when calling WAKEUP again, it directly
exist with RC 1. So, the SHUTTRAP signal triggers 2 WAKEUP events: COSN &
SMSG. Removing the CONS option doesn't do anything.
- SHUTTRAP does not work like ADDRESS CMS, (so an eventual
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