Re: How Many Files Can Be on a Minidisk Before It Cannot be ACCESSed?

2009-04-30 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:40 AM, James Stracka (DHL US) james.stra...@dhl.com wrote: Rob, Thanks.  That works great when the disk is too full for the application to issue the EXEC to archive the files.  I have to see if we can work that into the code. The major concern I had is to

Re: z/VM V5R4.0 dISABLED WAIT PSW 9051

2009-04-30 Thread Crispin Hugo
Trying to IPL one of our z/VM 5.4 systems and get disabled wait PSW 0002 9051 I can't find reference to what 9051 is and what may have caused it. Any help please Crispin Hugo Systems Programmer Macro 4 Ltd Direct Line: +44 (0)1293 872121, Switchboard: +44

Re: Questions on issuing RACF LU command

2009-04-30 Thread Ronald van der Laan
Hi, As far as I can recall from the top of my head, without having access to the code, the RAC command writes the racf output to the RACF DATA A file and then, when not disabled, does a TYPE to display the racf output. What I normally do to process racf data, is the following: /* setup racf

Questions on issuing RACF LU command

2009-04-30 Thread Changer
Hi all, Issue 'RACF LU user' command will create RACF DATA file on 191 A disk by default. Is there any way to perform the command but would not generate RACF DATA file or create RACF DATA file on other disk (B , C ... or temporary disk) not 191 A disk? Thank you very much. Regards, Changer

Re: Packing Methods

2009-04-30 Thread Alain Benveniste
Richard, You have the same questions I had when I started to put in place our DR solution. We also have 3590E drives and I never tried to remove the hard drive default compaction. I don¹t see a reason for that. Now choosing software compaction is a must if you have enough cpu to do the work for

Flashcopy Relationships and CP Owned packs.

2009-04-30 Thread Crispin Hugo
Can anyone explain why it is thought to be a bad idea to form Flashcopy relationships with CP owned disks. As I found out this morning , it cause hard wait of z/VM ! I want to have a Flashcopy relationship of P30RES for backup as it only take couple of second to do compared to 3 minutes with full

Re: Questions on issuing RACF LU command

2009-04-30 Thread Scott Rohling
I apologize.. I could swear RAC did not create an output file - but I see now that it does. Wonder how I missed that all this time? Getting old sucks.. sorry for the misinfo :-( Scott On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 5:59 AM, Rob van der Heij rvdh...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at

Re: z/VM V5R4.0 dISABLED WAIT PSW 9051

2009-04-30 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 04/30/2009 at 07:04 EDT, Crispin Hugo crispin.h...@macro4.com wrote: Thanks for your help. Problem was Internet was down and local 5.4 manuals and HELP to no show this message. Maybe your 5.4 HELP isn't in production or something? HELP HCP9051W HCP9051W FlashCopy relations

Re: Questions on issuing RACF LU command

2009-04-30 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com wrote: RAC LU user    will just display to the console.. You're incorrect. As Ronald says, It also (over)writes a file RACF DATA on the A-disk. That was the point raised by the OP. -Rob

Re: z/VM V5R4.0 dISABLED WAIT PSW 9051

2009-04-30 Thread Crispin Hugo
Thanks Alan, Unfortunately the only system with the CMS HELP was the one I was trying to IPL. I was trying to IPL a system that the RES pack was the SOURCE and not the TARGET. This caused a hard wait which I think is a bit harsh. I can't see why CP would object either. It's a real pain for no

Re: Defining SCSI devices for Linux guest

2009-04-30 Thread Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E]
So simple once it is explained. Thanks for all the responses. The install is in progress. Bobby Bauer Center for Information Technology National Institutes of Health Bethesda, MD 20892-5628 301-594-7474 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System

Re: Questions on issuing RACF LU command

2009-04-30 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com wrote: I apologize..  I could swear RAC did not create an output file - but I see now that it does.  Wonder how I missed that all this time?   Getting old sucks..   sorry for the misinfo   :-( We're just spoiled by most of

Re: Questions on issuing RACF LU command

2009-04-30 Thread Bruce Hayden
Also take a look at the RACOUTP EXEC on the Y disk. When you use the RAC EXEC, RACF writes the output to RACF DATA, then calls RACOUTP EXEC to display it. If you look at the RACOUTP EXEC, you'll see that a global variable is set of the filemode where RACF DATA is written. There are also other

Writing/Closing a file in a pipeline

2009-04-30 Thread Thomas Kern
I have an exec with a pipeline that is listening on STARMSG *VMEVENT. Whe n it receives a LOGON record, it gets processed and additional information is added to the record. I would like the record to be written to a disk file and that disk file be available for others to read via READ-ONLY links

SCSI FCP dasd for Page packs

2009-04-30 Thread Bill Munson
Has anyone tried using FCP devices for PAGE packs? If so what was your results ? thanx Bill Munson Sr. z/VM Systems Programmer Brown Brothers Harriman CO. 525 Washington Blvd. Jersey City, NJ 07310 201-418-7588 President MVMUA http://www2.marist.edu/~mvmua/ ***

Re: Writing/Closing a file in a pipeline

2009-04-30 Thread Bob Bates
The file needs to be closed after the write in order to see them. Look at FINIS (not much to it). Bob Bates Enterprise Hosting Services w. (469)892-6660 c. (214) 907-5071 This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to

Re: z/VM V5R4.0 dISABLED WAIT PSW 9051

2009-04-30 Thread Carlos Bodra
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/hcsb4b31/3.1.4.197?ACTION=MATCHESREQUEST=9051TYPE=FUZZYSHELF=hcsh2aa1DT=20081201121442CASE=searchTopic=TOPICsearchText=TEXTsearchIndex=INDEXrank=RANKScrollTOP=FIRSTHIT#FIRSTHIT Crispin Hugo escreveu: Trying to IPL one of our z/VM 5.4

Re: z/VM V5R4.0 dISABLED WAIT PSW 9051

2009-04-30 Thread Carlos Bodra
*HCP2468E* *FlashCopy* *relationships* *on* *CP-OWNED* *volume* volser *on* *device* rdev*,* |*cylinders* n *through* n*,* *have* *been* *terminated.* | *Explanation:* CP does not allow persistent FlashCopy relationships to | exist on PAGE, SPOOL, DRCT, PARM, TEMP, Checkpoint, or

Re: How Many Files Can Be on a Minidisk Before It Cannot be ACCESSed?

2009-04-30 Thread Peter . Webb
Might this be a job for zCMS? I haven't tried it, don't know anything about it, but it kind of sounds like it might help. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Rob van der Heij Sent: April 30, 2009 02:59 To:

Re: How Many Files Can Be on a Minidisk Before It Cannot be ACCESSed?

2009-04-30 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 04/30/2009 at 11:03 EDT, peter.w...@ttc.ca wrote: Might this be a job for zCMS? I haven't tried it, don't know anything about it, but it kind of sounds like it might help. No, zCMS doesn't help. It is the same 31-bit CMS with a z/Architecture implementation. And the filesystem

Re: SWAPGEN

2009-04-30 Thread Mike Walter
I'll shuddup now ;-) I won't shuddup now! I suspect that some Blanket statements can turn out to be Wet Blanket statements, ruining the party at some customer sites, especially at new z/VM sites running POC's on hand-me-down machines without a lot of real memory. As always: **It

Re: z/VM V5R4.0 dISABLED WAIT PSW 9051

2009-04-30 Thread Neale Ferguson
I love the concept (pun intended) of CP having relations with anything: HCP9051W FlashCopy relations were found in CP-OWNED, non-PERM space. But see it suffers just like we do from time to time: Relations will be withdrawn. So I guess CP will have to apologize whether it was in the wrong or

Re: Defining SCSI devices for Linux guest

2009-04-30 Thread Dave Jones
Bobby, could you keep the list informed of your experiences with th SAN? Performance, management, etc.? Thanks and have a good one. Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] wrote: So simple once it is explained. Thanks for all the responses. The install is in progress. Bobby Bauer Center for Information

Re: Writing/Closing a file in a pipeline

2009-04-30 Thread Bruce Hayden
Add something like this to the pipeine: '? literal +30', '| dup *', '| delay', '| spec /FINIS * * A/ 1', '| command' You can close just the file or the whole disk. And you can make the timing whatever you want. On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Bob Bates robert.ba...@wellsfargo.com wrote:

Re: Questions on issuing RACF LU command

2009-04-30 Thread Boyer, William
I found this in RACF Security Server General User's Guide (z/VM 5.3). Section 3.5 If you do not want the command output to be displayed to your terminal, enter the CMS command: globalv select $racgrp set $rac_ispf y If you do not want subsequent commands to overwrite the

Re: Packing Methods

2009-04-30 Thread Schuh, Richard
In our situation, the tapes are being written to a remote SL3000 located in another of our datacenters. They will be read by the same tape units that wrote them because the DR site is an LPAR in that same center. We have tested the process and are well within the limits established for us. The

Re: How Many Files Can Be on a Minidisk Before It Cannot be ACCESSed?

2009-04-30 Thread Bob Heerdink
I'm trying a test right now here's my exec: /* Exec to create a bunch of little files*/ do I=1 to 99 'PIPE |', 'LITERAL delete me |', ' DUMMY' I 'A' end exit

Re: Flashcopy Relationships and CP Owned packs.

2009-04-30 Thread Eric R Farman
Hi Crispin, The intent was to prevent CP-owned volumes from being the TARGET of a FlashCopy relationship, as it means there's another writer of data to the pack that CP will be using and Bad Things will surely result. If your pack is a SOURCE in the FlashCopy relationship, then I suspect we

Re: How Many Files Can Be on a Minidisk Before It Cannot be ACCESSed?

2009-04-30 Thread James Stracka (DHL US)
Bob, Of more interest will be how do you erase those files? You will have to manually issue a few ERASE commands before doing LISTFILE DUMMY * A (E to make room for the CMS EXEC file. You might be able to issue ACCESS 191 A (ERASE but you had better have a backup of the other files on that

Adding addresses to FCP

2009-04-30 Thread Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E]
We changed our IOCP to add addresses to the FCP device. From: CNTLUNIT CUNUMBR=,PATH=((CSS(0),08)),UNIT=FCP IODEVICE ADDRESS=(,1),CUNUMBR=(),UNIT=FCP --- To CNTLUNIT CUNUMBR=,PATH=((CSS(0),08)),UNIT=FCP IODEVICE ADDRESS=(,4),CUNUMBR=(),UNIT=FCP --- We are

Re: SWAPGEN

2009-04-30 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Rich Smrcina rsmrc...@wi.rr.com wrote: Both ESALPS and the Performance Toolkit will show that an unused Vdisk will use very little storage.  Even if you do manage to start using it, after a certain amount of time it is likely to get paged out if unreferenced

Re: How Many Files Can Be on a Minidisk Before It Cannot be ACCESSed?

2009-04-30 Thread Bruce Hayden
Just ERASE DUMMY * A will work, assuming you don't run out of storage to run the command.. On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 2:51 PM, James Stracka (DHL US) james.stra...@dhl.com wrote: Bob, Of more interest will be how do you erase those files?  You will have to manually issue a few ERASE commands

Re: Writing/Closing a file in a pipeline

2009-04-30 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Bruce Hayden bjhay...@gmail.com wrote: Add something like this to the pipeine: '? literal +30', '|  dup *', '|  delay', '|  spec /FINIS * * A/ 1', '|  command' Would you not want to avoid that when there has not been a record since last time you closed it?

Re: Packing Methods

2009-04-30 Thread Ivica Brodaric
If your main concern is impact on users and you have a speedy link between the sites, then by all means use hardware compression only. If your link is slow or there is other traffic on it, you may consider software compression and then muzzle the backup application using priorities etc. I

Re: Flashcopy Relationships and CP Owned packs.

2009-04-30 Thread Crispin Hugo
Many thanks \|Eric. I will give that a go Crispin Hugo Systems Programmer, Macro 4 http://www.macro4.com/ Macro 4 plc, The Orangery, Turners Hill Road, Worth, Crawley, RH10 4SS Direct Line: +44 (0)1293 872121 Switchboard: +44 (0) 1293 872000 Fax: +44 (0) 1293 872001 This message contains

Re: Writing/Closing a file in a pipeline

2009-04-30 Thread Thomas Kern
That works on its own. I did have another timing program (SCHEDULE) runni ng in that SVM to schedule a PIPMOD STOP just before midnight and a CP IPL a t midnight to restart the process with a new daily log file. I will move th at scheduling to VMUTIL. On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 11:18:47 -0400, Bruce

Re: Writing/Closing a file in a pipeline

2009-04-30 Thread Bruce Hayden
This pipe read accounting records, so every 30 seconds even with nothing to do was fine. A longer interval would probably be fine also, but 30 seconds was pretty good when I was testing. The machine also responded to shutdown signals (thanks to shuttrap) so the chance of losing any records was

Re: Writing/Closing a file in a pipeline

2009-04-30 Thread Thomas Kern
Yes, SHUTTRAP works fine issuing a PIPMOD STOP but not an HVMEVENT which I tried first. I have SHUTTRAP in place so that I can stop it at anytime during the day and still have a safe data file. /Tom Kern On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:29:59 -0400, Bruce Hayden bjhay...@gmail.com wro te: This pipe

How can I make my TCPIP run?

2009-04-30 Thread sunny . hu
I plan to setup VSWITCH on z/VM 5.4 But I couldn't make my TCPIP running. Please give me some advice. Message from TCPMAINT DTCRUN1022I Console log will be sent to default owner ID: TCPMAINT HCPCPS040E Device 0600 does not exist DTCRUN1001E CP VARY ON 0600 failed with return code 40

Re: z/VM V5R4.0 dISABLED WAIT PSW 9051

2009-04-30 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote: Maybe your 5.4 HELP isn't in production or something? Duh! It did not complete IPL... he prolly did not have another 5.4 handy to check. Rob

Re: How can I make my TCPIP run?

2009-04-30 Thread Wandschneider, Scott
Check your DTCPARMS file Thank you, Scott From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of sunny...@wcb.ab.ca Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 5:01 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: How can I make my TCPIP run? I plan to setup VSWITCH on z/VM

Re: How can I make my TCPIP run?

2009-04-30 Thread David Kreuter
1. suggest that you do not log directly onto the tcpip server. XAUTOLOG from TCPMAINT. 2. The SYSTEM DTCPARMS is trying to attach real device 600 to this machine. If you are trying to connect on vswitch, remove the ATTACH tag from SYSTEM DTCPARMS. 3. XAUTOLOG TCPIP and see what

Re: SWAPGEN

2009-04-30 Thread Martin, Terry R. (LOCKHEED MARTIN Performance Engineering/CTR) (CTR)
Hi Barton, Thanks for the information. I will have two VDISKs for my z/Linux guests already. I have found that when a z/Linux guest at least with my workload starts to use SWAP it plows through it in no time so the extra real disk for swap was to slow this down so that I could react quickly to

Re: SWAPGEN

2009-04-30 Thread Martin, Terry R. (LOCKHEED MARTIN Performance Engineering/CTR) (CTR)
Scott Wrote: A real disk might make real sense with an ill-behaved, unpredictable guest that is causing you swapping headaches. This is exactly why I want to allocate a real disk. I understand the theory behind what Rich and Barton are saying but in practice all workloads are not created

Re: SWAPGEN

2009-04-30 Thread Barton Robinson
make sure that your oracle SGA fits into your page cache. If it doesn't, that will make you swap. Your ORACLE DBA ABSOLUTELY must be in agreement on your configuration Martin, Terry R. (LOCKHEED MARTIN Performance Engineering/CTR) (CTR) wrote: Hi Barton, Thanks for the information. I

Re: SWAPGEN

2009-04-30 Thread Martin, Terry R. (LOCKHEED MARTIN Performance Engineering/CTR) (CTR)
Hi Marcy, Yes, I have played with that taking it from the default of 60 to 20 and it does help. I just have an oracle app that needs some work. Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Information Technology z/OS z/VM Systems - Performance and Tuning Cell - 443 632-4191 Work - 410 786-0386

Re: How can I make my TCPIP run?

2009-04-30 Thread Mike Walter
Sunny, The following message indicates that you are using virtual devices for your NIC (typical, and correct): 15:50:20 NIC 0600 is created; devices 0600-0602 defined: They are probably in the CP directory entry for TCPIP. The following messages indicate that you are trying to deal with real