Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-20 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 09/17/2010 at 11:09 EDT, Rick Barlow rrhbar...@gmail.com wrote: Does this mean that IBM will finally create PDFs for all of the old products that only have BOO files? No. The discussion was specifically about just the z/VM product publications. Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-19 Thread Alan Ackerman
Learning curve is nil. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott = == == Then I must be stupid. I have tried to use Information Center from time t o time and find it very frustrating. I don't know how to find things, and when

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-18 Thread Gentry, Stephen
format softcopy Does this mean that IBM will finally create PDFs for all of the old products that only have BOO files? Rick Barlow On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote: In order to reduce expenses, reduce the amount of time it takes to produce softcopy

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-17 Thread Rick Barlow
Does this mean that IBM will finally create PDFs for all of the old products that only have BOO files? Rick Barlow On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.comwrote: In order to reduce expenses, reduce the amount of time it takes to produce softcopy documentation, and

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-07 Thread Graves Nora E
SE:W:CAR:MP:D:KS:BRSI -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 12:01 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: BookManager format softcopy In order to reduce expenses, reduce the amount of time it takes

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-07 Thread Jonathan R Nolting
Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 12:01 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: BookManager format softcopy In order to reduce expenses, reduce the amount of time it takes to produce softcopy documentation, and eliminate

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-07 Thread David Boyes
, September 07, 2010 1:44 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: BookManager format softcopy I agree. The bookshelf search is something that I use all the time as well. I can't seem to get similar search results using the other documentation media.

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-07 Thread Scott Rohling
Nolting *Sent:* Tuesday, September 07, 2010 1:44 PM *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: BookManager format softcopy I agree. The bookshelf search is something that I use all the time as well. I can't seem to get similar search results using the other documentation media.

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-07 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 09/07/2010 at 11:25 EDT, Graves Nora E nora.e.gra...@irs.gov wrote: I really like the ability to search every book on the bookshelf for the occurrence of what I'm looking up. I've been known to search the older versions first if the latest versions are only available in PDF (DB2

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-07 Thread David Boyes
More feedback (1 = gotta have it now, 4 = when you have a lot of free time) - TOC simplification and consistency (avoid useless divisions of information) 3. We're used to it by now, and the PDF manuals don't really exhibit this problem too badly. - PDF bookshelf and search enhancements 2.

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-06 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 8:11 PM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote: The Information Center is very nice in that regard.  You can download and run it on your workstation if you like, or you can use the Internet version.  Learning curve is nil. Don't make me laugh. I thought you had 2

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-05 Thread Tony Thigpen
Just a comment on the size difference between PDF and BOO formats. I have looked at the internal structures and there is one *huge* program at the end of each PDF file called hclxDII. Maybe IBM should look at what this is used for and try to replace it with a built-in function. Also, the

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-05 Thread Riedel, Alexander
Thigpen Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 2:20 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: BookManager format softcopy Just a comment on the size difference between PDF and BOO formats. I have looked at the internal structures and there is one *huge* program at the end of each PDF file called hclxDII

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-05 Thread Tony Thigpen
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 2:20 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: BookManager format softcopy Just a comment on the size difference between PDF and BOO

BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-03 Thread Alan Altmark
In order to reduce expenses, reduce the amount of time it takes to produce softcopy documentation, and eliminate dependencies on soon-to-be-unsupported internal tools (nothing to do with BookManager READ software), we are thinking about eliminating BOOK (.boo) files from z/VM softcopy

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-03 Thread Schuh, Richard
: Friday, September 03, 2010 9:01 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: BookManager format softcopy In order to reduce expenses, reduce the amount of time it takes to produce softcopy documentation, and eliminate dependencies on soon-to-be-unsupported internal tools (nothing to do

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-03 Thread Rich Smrcina
If you must I guess the writing was on the wall for some time. I'll just have to get used to Info Center. I've always found the web based book manager very fast, and sufficient for my requirements, although it took some imagination to read... in a pinch I would download the PDF to

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-03 Thread David Boyes
Sounds like a plan. I'd actually omit the Information Center docs too -- they're almost impossible to use, really. The z/VM Information Center and PDF files would still be produced.

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-03 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 12:10 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: BookManager format softcopy Sounds like a plan. I'd actually omit the Information

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-03 Thread David Boyes
I'm curious. I have a KindleDX expressly so that I can easily read PDF books which are US Letter or A4 sized. Given the upswing in other, smaller, ebook readers (and things like iPod touch and smartphones), would a mobi format be useful? ePub format would be generally about as helpful as

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-03 Thread Brian Nielsen
The PDF's are all I ever use. Brian Nielsen On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 12:01:08 -0400, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote: In order to reduce expenses, reduce the amount of time it takes to produ ce softcopy documentation, and eliminate dependencies on soon-to-be-unsupported internal tools

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-03 Thread RPN01
Same here; I've been using the PDF files for quite some time now. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OC-1-18 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -^^-^^ In theory, theory and

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-03 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 09/03/2010 at 12:17 EDT, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote: As long as the replacement allows searches similar to Bookie, the only discomfort for me would be learning curve and comfort level. The Information Center is very nice in that regard. You can download and run it on

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-03 Thread Alan Altmark
Folks, I am simply trying to gather data on customers who would be adversely affected by the elimination of BOOK files. If you have no dependency on BOOK files, please don't post a reply; I have your vote already. :-) I don't want to clutter the list with data I can't use. Thanks for your

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-03 Thread David Boyes
The Information Center is very nice in that regard. You can download and run it on your workstation if you like, or you can use the Internet version. Learning curve is nil. Are there any docs on how to use it better? I find it really confusing and hard to work with. -- db

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-03 Thread Dave Jones
sigh.I guess this was inevitable... I'm a big fan of the .boo format and the z/VM bookshelves because: 1) they are easy to read on a typical laptop computer screen. 2) books load very fast across the Net and display quickly, mainly due, I suspect to their significantly smaller size (e.g.,

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-03 Thread Dave Jones
I have to agree here with DB...I also find it difficult to useand how does one go about downloading it to be run on a laptop (and is Linux a supported laptop environment)? On 09/03/2010 01:31 PM, David Boyes wrote: The Information Center is very nice in that regard. You can download and

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-03 Thread Schuh, Richard
[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 12:13 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: BookManager format softcopy sigh.I guess this was inevitable... My least favorite form of on line documentation is the new Information Center

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-03 Thread Michael Forte
: BookManager format softcopy Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU sigh.I guess this was inevitable... I'm a big fan of the .boo format and the z/VM bookshelves because: 1) they are easy to read on a typical laptop computer screen. 2) books load very fast across

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-03 Thread Michael Forte
Software Engineer, System z Information Solutions 58HA From: Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 09/03/2010 03:59 PM Subject:Re: BookManager format softcopy Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU You can see the books

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-03 Thread Michael Forte
Solutions 58HA From: Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 09/03/2010 04:18 PM Subject:Re: BookManager format softcopy Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU That will not fly for all. We have strict rules against downloading

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-03 Thread Michael Forte
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 09/03/2010 03:50 PM Subject:Re: BookManager format softcopy Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU I have to agree here with DB...I also find it difficult to useand how does one go about downloading it to be run on a laptop (and is Linux

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-03 Thread David Boyes
With regard to your mention of PDF search capability, have you downloaded and tried the IBM Advanced Linguistic Search Plug-in for searching enabled PDFs and across PDF extended shelves with the same (or nearly same) search quality as BookManager? PDFs don't give me problems. It's the Info

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-03 Thread Leland Lucius
Alan Altmark wrote: In order to reduce expenses, reduce the amount of time it takes to produce softcopy documentation, and eliminate dependencies on soon-to-be-unsupported internal tools (nothing to do with BookManager READ software), we are thinking about eliminating BOOK (.boo) files from